American Politics

[Paulie97]

The real reasons you don't like the study I linked to are: (1) The study was from Bangladesh; and (2) the study is outside your confirmation bias.

There are many many peer reviewed studies that demonstrate the effectiveness of masks in reducing spread of Covid, as well as other viruses spread through aerosols.

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronaviru...n-why-they-do/

Also consider the fact that red states with few exceptions have much higher Covid death rates than blue states. Stubborn, bone headed views and practices regarding masks is certainly a contributing factor.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/red-bl...ry?id=83649085

[Elvis 2008]

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/74680...e-ballot-fraud

North Carolina operative indicted in ballot fraud scandal that led to new House election

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ess-indictment

That one actually changed the outcome of an election and required a new election!

LOL. This was covered in 2000 mules which you dumb Dems failed to watch. The same method used to catch this guy were used to show the 2020 election was rigged.

[Elvis 2008]

Diseases suppressed during Covid are coming back in new and peculiar ways

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/10/flu-...ndroidappshare

Guess what. Masking in surgical rooms became a "tradition" in the USA soon after 1918. Let's see if any stable geniuses here can figure out why.

Hint: For the same reason they would have become a "tradition" after 2020 if they hadn't been a "tradition" already.

If the world were as scrubbed down, sterilized and everyone in it as checked and sanitized as people in an operating room, I suppose mask -wearing would have shown only minimal protection against infection in this regard.

But only between 1918 and 2020.

Then new "traditional" rules applied. And for a very good reason.

My God, you are stupid, "Health experts say Covid-19 restrictions could have reduced exposure and lowered immunity to infectious diseases, making society more vulnerable to new outbreaks. Influenza, Respiratory syncytial virus, adenovirus, tuberculosis and monkeypox are among a number of viruses to have spiked and exhibited strange behaviors in recent months. "

This is why you do not lock down you dumb ass. By locking down, you lower immunity and allow the spread of diseases. When New Zealand locked down, they had an epidemic of RSV, yet you dumb Dems just looked at them and said what a success they were. When you lock down, you fuck up societal immune systems, and these are the unintended consequences of said lockdown.

In addition, mental health issues soared, suicides skyrocket, opioid deaths were never higher, and you dumb Dems still talk about how Trump should have locked down harder as it would have saved lives and yet everything you mentioned has been proven not to work.

[Elvis 2008]

Were those opinions concluded in the midst of a deadly airborne virus Pandemic outside and inside the hospital?

Nope.

WTF does that have to do with anything?

Ask them if they would have strongly recommended wearing a mask just inches away from an open wound in July 2020.

An open wound in July 2020? WTF are you talking about? You are mentally ill. I do not think you know what Covid is or how it infects or how it spreads.

[Paulie97]

Jan 6. panel says Scott Perry among multiple GOP lawmakers who wanted Trump pardon

https://thehill.com/news/house/35183...-trump-pardon/

See, in order for them to qualify for the so-called potus pardon they were requesting, they had to acknowledge and admit they were guilty of the crime of trying to cancel all the votes and overturning the entire election.

How many baskets would be needed to hold all the GOP votes they tried to "stuff" with that one?

We know explicitly about the 11,780 that Trump told Brad Raffensperger to find / stuff in Georgia.

[Paulie97]

Repub so-called potus Trump told his Repub voters they ought to vote twice.

Repub so-called potus Trump incited a violent mob to riot, storm the Capitol, attack, maim and kill cops to prevent the official submission of ALL the votes and EC awards in the country.

How does that compare with a bit of ineffectual ballot stuffing by a former state representative?

The woman was actually guilty of "ballot harvesting. " The ballots were genuine but the collection methods weren't in accord with state law. She returned ballots for registered voters when she wasn't a family member, household member, or caregiver, which was at odds with a 2016 Arizona statute. Prior to that ballots could be delivered by anyone, and such was a common get out the vote practice by both parties.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona...ection-scheme/

In many states anyone is allowed to deliver an absentee ballot.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi...the-voter.aspx

And yes, of course there is still no evidence of any voter fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election, or any basis for a day of criminal and murderous behavior from a bunch of stupid goons immersed in Fox News nightly line up propaganda. Hopefully more arrests and prison sentences are coming soon.

[PVMonger]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/

"The evidence base investigating the effects of facemask usage on patient-based outcomes is, in general, more extensive than that of surgeon-centred outcomes. Facemasks do have a clear role in maintaining the social cleanliness of surgical staff, but evidence is lacking to suggest that they confer protection from infection either to patients or to the surgeons that wear them. ".

Yeah, I got it, so surgeons wearing masks are customary, tradition without any evidence. And your blaming Trump for the pandemic is also without proven evidence and is a tradition.

And your saying following the science is bullshit too. There were a few anecdotal reports suggesting masks worked but it was never proven they did, and the study PVM cited was that masks "worked" was a fucking joke..

The real reasons you don't like the study I linked to are: (1) The study was from Bangladesh; and (2) the study is outside your confirmation bias.

And please, please stop with the "blaming the Orange Buffoon for the pandemic" hogwash. Nobody blames Hair Furor for the pandemic. We blame him for screwing up the US response to the pandemic. There is a difference, even if every Republican on the face of the earth is too stupid to realize it. Cheeto Tweeto was even so stupid as to admit to his screwups to Bob Woodward.

See, that's what the supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, former POtuS always get wrong. Every time the Orange Doofus said "I'm not going to wear a mask", his dumber-than-dogshit supporters said "I won't wear a mask either". Every time the Mango Mussolini said "Inject disinfectant and shove a lightbulb up your ass", his idiotic supporters thought "Yep, that's what I'll do". Every time the Orange Buffoon said anything negative about COVID, his moronic followers believed every word he said. This was compounded, of course, by the complicit rightwingnut media who promoted every cockamamie idea that came down the pike. "The vaccine contains microchips", "The vaccine doesn't work", "Ivermectin works" et cetera.

The simple fact that the US has a higher death rate from COVID that virtually every other first world country in the world proves that Donnie the Dumbass screwed up our response.

President Biden's main failing was thinking that every moronic Republican would actually get vaccinated or wear a mask or socially distance or do any of the things that socially responsible people do. He failed to realize that Republicans preferred dying to doing what was right for the rest of the citizens of the US. Any Dem could have told him that Republicans wouldn't do what was right. Unfortunately he had too much faith in them. Donnie didn't, of course, because he said more than once that he loved the uneducated.

[EihTooms]

Diseases suppressed during Covid are coming back in new and peculiar ways

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/10/flu-...ndroidappshare

Weve never seen a flu season in the U.S. extend into June, Dr. Scott Roberts, associate medical director for infection prevention at Yale New Haven Hospital, told CNBC Tuesday.

Covid has clearly had a very big impact on that. Now that people have unmasked, places are opening up, were seeing viruses behave in very odd ways that they werent before, he said.

And flu is just the beginning.

Guess what. Masking in surgical rooms became a "tradition" in the USA soon after 1918. Let's see if any stable geniuses here can figure out why.

Hint: For the same reason they would have become a "tradition" after 2020 if they hadn't been a "tradition" already.

If the world were as scrubbed down, sterilized and everyone in it as checked and sanitized as people in an operating room, I suppose mask -wearing would have shown only minimal protection against infection in this regard.

But only between 1918 and 2020.

Then new "traditional" rules applied. And for a very good reason.

[EihTooms]

Still looking for anyone pleaded guilty or convicted guilty for ballot stuffing (which is way more worse than few people voting twice) for GOP, like there's many for Democrats (just Google it man). Got any?

And, you say Dems are better than GOP, but this Dems ballot stuffing guilty plea brings Dems at least at the same level as GOP, agreed now?

Jan 6. panel says Scott Perry among multiple GOP lawmakers who wanted Trump pardon

https://thehill.com/news/house/35183...-trump-pardon/

Rep. Scott Perry (R-Penn) was one of multiple GOP lawmakers who asked President Trump for pardons given their roles in seeking to unwind the 2020 election results, the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol said in its first hearing Thursday night.

See, in order for them to qualify for the so-called potus pardon they were requesting, they had to acknowledge and admit they were guilty of the crime of trying to cancel all the votes and overturning the entire election.

How many baskets would be needed to hold all the GOP votes they tried to "stuff" with that one?

[EihTooms]

Still looking for anyone pleaded guilty or convicted guilty for ballot stuffing (which is way more worse than few people voting twice) for GOP, like there's many for Democrats (just Google it man). Got any?

And, you say Dems are better than GOP, but this Dems ballot stuffing guilty plea brings Dems at least at the same level as GOP, agreed now?

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/74680...e-ballot-fraud

The charges relate to the tainted 9th congressional district election last year in which Republican Mark Harris led in the unofficial vote tally by a margin of about 900 votes over Democrat Dan McCready. But the election results were overturned by the state after an investigation into an absentee ballot operation on Harris' behalf suggested that Dowless had improperly collected and possibly tampered with ballots.

North Carolina operative indicted in ballot fraud scandal that led to new House election

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ess-indictment

That one actually changed the outcome of an election and required a new election!

[EihTooms]

Still looking for anyone pleaded guilty or convicted guilty for ballot stuffing (which is way more worse than few people voting twice) for GOP, like there's many for Democrats (just Google it man). Got any?

And, you say Dems are better than GOP, but this Dems ballot stuffing guilty plea brings Dems at least at the same level as GOP, agreed now?

Repub so-called potus Trump told his Repub voters they ought to vote twice.

Repub so-called potus Trump incited a violent mob to riot, storm the Capitol, attack, maim and kill cops to prevent the official submission of ALL the votes and EC awards in the country.

How does that compare with a bit of ineffectual ballot stuffing by a former state representative?

[EihTooms]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/

"The evidence base investigating the effects of facemask usage on patient-based outcomes is, in general, more extensive than that of surgeon-centred outcomes. Facemasks do have a clear role in maintaining the social cleanliness of surgical staff, but evidence is lacking to suggest that they confer protection from infection either to patients or to the surgeons that wear them. ".

Yeah, I got it, so surgeons wearing masks are customary, tradition without any evidence. And your blaming Trump for the pandemic is also without proven evidence and is a tradition.

And your saying following the science is bullshit too. There were a few anecdotal reports suggesting masks worked but it was never proven they did, and the study PVM cited was that masks "worked" was a fucking joke.

So yeah, I repeat, Trump is responsible for a million Covid deaths and Biden is responsible for none. We got it. It is your tradition, and it is proof that you are fucking nuts.

Were those opinions concluded in the midst of a deadly airborne virus Pandemic outside and inside the hospital?

Nope.

Ask them if they would have strongly recommended wearing a mask just inches away from an open wound in July 2020 when so-called potus Trump was still in full swing dismissing anyone in the world bother to invent or take a vaccine for Trump's Pandemic virus.

Another swing and a miss by you.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Yeah, your good friend Bernie's expanded message is that the Dems need to make it clear to the American people that "conservatives" of both parties are Do Nothing corporate hack bullshitters and if you want good things for America, vote 'them out.

That would include every Repub in both houses of Congress and 2 Dem Senators:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...terms-00038183

Thanks for the lead to your good friend Bernie's full message. I've been stating that same message for decades.

https://anncoulter.com/2022/05/25/th...black-america/

[Elvis 2008]

And, of course, in the midst of something like Trump's Pandemic, one never knows for certain if you are the infected one today or not. Consequently, everyone in the room needs to wear a mask for the mitigation measure to work as intended.

See, a study that shows someone wearing a mask will still inhale much of whatever is airborne in the room misses the point. But those types love to miss the point. So they cite those studies.

The mask is meant more to reduce the amount of potential bad bugs otherwise exhaled freely and unfiltered into a room, not so much to prevent whatever does get past that mask and into the air from being inhaled by everyone else in the room, masked or not.

Here's an easy way to illustrate how much they miss the point. Well, it ought to be easy:

When doctors and nurses wear masks while performing a surgical procedure, it isn't so much to prevent them from catching something in the air coming out of the open wound they made in the chest of a go-go bar girl getting the boob job today. No, it is more to prevent whatever they might have caught at the pub last night, a cold virus, the flu virus, the measles, chicken pox, whatever, from being expelled directly into the open wound they just made in their patient.

Get it now, guys?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/

"The evidence base investigating the effects of facemask usage on patient-based outcomes is, in general, more extensive than that of surgeon-centred outcomes. Facemasks do have a clear role in maintaining the social cleanliness of surgical staff, but evidence is lacking to suggest that they confer protection from infection either to patients or to the surgeons that wear them. ".

Yeah, I got it, so surgeons wearing masks are customary, tradition without any evidence. And your blaming Trump for the pandemic is also without proven evidence and is a tradition.

And your saying following the science is bullshit too. There were a few anecdotal reports suggesting masks worked but it was never proven they did, and the study PVM cited was that masks "worked" was a fucking joke.

So yeah, I repeat, Trump is responsible for a million Covid deaths and Biden is responsible for none. We got it. It is your tradition, and it is proof that you are fucking nuts.

[PVMonger]

I think the part of the highly effective proper mask wearing mitigation measure that JustTK and others like him keep missing is that the mask works more to reduce the amount of possible virus particles expelled by the mask wearer into the air rather than to prevent them from inhaling whatever is in the air around them. The more virus particles get trapped or filtered out of an infected person wearing a mask, the fewer particles per million are circulating in the space for anyone else with or without a mask to inhale.

And, of course, in the midst of something like Trump's Pandemic, one never knows for certain if you are the infected one today or not. Consequently, everyone in the room needs to wear a mask for the mitigation measure to work as intended.

See, a study that shows someone wearing a mask will still inhale much of whatever is airborne in the room misses the point. But those types love to miss the point. So they cite those studies.

The mask is meant more to reduce the amount of potential bad bugs otherwise exhaled freely and unfiltered into a room, not so much to prevent whatever does get past that mask and into the air from being inhaled by everyone else in the room, masked or not.

Here's an easy way to illustrate how much they miss the point. Well, it ought to be easy:

RethugliKKKans are too stupid to "get it". They are, as a group, too stupid to get vaccinated but are smart enough to drink bleach while trying to shove a lightbulb up their asses like the Orange Buffoon suggested.