American Politics

[MarquisdeSade1]

Trump as nothing to do with the mess you guys are causing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu9JGK_yHo

[JustTK]

Here is what you said on June 13. It is a direct quote from your post. The only changes I made were to highlight the two (2) instances of your use of the word "historically". The text is as follows: " Historically those are the factors that the Dems used to run on and target. Historically the Reps use supply side economics that favour business, so you would expect the Dems to do better on the factors that they target."
You will note that the first (1st) time you used the word, you spelled it correctly. The second (2nd) time, you did not.

Both are spelled correctly. I replied yesterday. Seems I am not allowed to curse at you. The fact that you are now criticising spelling mistakes is very illuminating.

[DramaFree11]

I agree Axel, but I am not arguing with him as much as razzing him. If this guy is wealthy as he says he is, he has taken a huge haircut while schilling for Biden. To me, that is more telling than anything he says. You have to wonder why he keeps up the nonstop rhetoric given how much he has lost and is going to lose.

I will never forget the Dems making fun of the Republican solution to high oil prices, "Drill, baby drill!" This was Dinosaur thinking. Then we have Biden. Oil is way up in price. Supply is down because of the Russia-Ukraine war. So we are going to get nuts with drilling right?

Nope. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-prices-video/.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre on Thursday confirmed that Joe Biden is moving full steam ahead to end fossil fuels despite soaring gas prices.

"We don't need to" drill more oil in the US Karine Jean-Pierre said after Peter Doocy asked why the US isn't drilling for more oil.

Yeah, Eih is this forum's answer to Bagdad Bob, but the really crazy part is he does not even get there is conflict among Democrats. When prices were high in the Obama administration, drilling went on at a furious pace. Eih is so clueless he thinks the Democrat way is the answer not even realizing that Obama and Biden are as far apart on energy as Dems and Republicans.

CNBC has a healthy mix of Republicans and Dems, and I have to say that it is funny to watch the Dems there plead with this administration to talk to the oil company execs. They have known these execs for years, and they know while oil has gone up it has nothing to do with "greedy" oil companies.

Usually the traders keep out of politics but two of them went right at it, and they said we are having higher oil prices due to this administration, and there was zero push back on them. You just do not see that outside of Fox. Things are so stupid right now refiners are moving jet fuel to the East Coast by truck because refining capacity has not been increased on the East coast.

It is a mess but even with higher prices, demand destruction has not kicked in. It shows how committed to climate change this administration is. They want $10 gasoline and if it destroys the economy, then so be it. "Saving the planet" is more important than saving the economy.

Of course, Eih is in Thailand and does not care about gasoline prices. He has his 20 year old babe pushing him around in his wheelchair.

I would say if we hit $6 a gallon in Texas, we are in big trouble. These guys have no plan and are fighting with everyone, instead of finding solutions and compromising. Hopefully they will wake up, but that would mean admitting they failed, I do not see this happening. This would also cause them to piss off there base. Either way we are screwed and the Dem's are in deep trouble.

Maybe they will bring someone in to help.

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis, it is pointless to argue with someone who is as far gone as our little left wing BKK'er.

I agree Axel, but I am not arguing with him as much as razzing him. If this guy is wealthy as he says he is, he has taken a huge haircut while schilling for Biden. To me, that is more telling than anything he says. You have to wonder why he keeps up the nonstop rhetoric given how much he has lost and is going to lose.

I will never forget the Dems making fun of the Republican solution to high oil prices, "Drill, baby drill!" This was Dinosaur thinking. Then we have Biden. Oil is way up in price. Supply is down because of the Russia-Ukraine war. So we are going to get nuts with drilling right?

Nope. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-prices-video/.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre on Thursday confirmed that Joe Biden is moving full steam ahead to end fossil fuels despite soaring gas prices.

"We don't need to" drill more oil in the US Karine Jean-Pierre said after Peter Doocy asked why the US isn't drilling for more oil.

Yeah, Eih is this forum's answer to Bagdad Bob, but the really crazy part is he does not even get there is conflict among Democrats. When prices were high in the Obama administration, drilling went on at a furious pace. Eih is so clueless he thinks the Democrat way is the answer not even realizing that Obama and Biden are as far apart on energy as Dems and Republicans.

CNBC has a healthy mix of Republicans and Dems, and I have to say that it is funny to watch the Dems there plead with this administration to talk to the oil company execs. They have known these execs for years, and they know while oil has gone up it has nothing to do with "greedy" oil companies.

Usually the traders keep out of politics but two of them went right at it, and they said we are having higher oil prices due to this administration, and there was zero push back on them. You just do not see that outside of Fox. Things are so stupid right now refiners are moving jet fuel to the East Coast by truck because refining capacity has not been increased on the East coast.

It is a mess but even with higher prices, demand destruction has not kicked in. It shows how committed to climate change this administration is. They want $10 gasoline and if it destroys the economy, then so be it. "Saving the planet" is more important than saving the economy.

Of course, Eih is in Thailand and does not care about gasoline prices. He has his 20 year old babe pushing him around in his wheelchair.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Biden promised he would fix all problems created by Trump.

Please provide a link for that promise.

Trump produced so many unprecedented and seemingly insurmountable problems for America requiring decades to fix and not a mere 4-8 years it is not likely Biden said anything like that even in jest. I doubt he even said anything as stupid as "I alone can fix it!" about any one of those horrific conditions Trump handed him.

Obama-Biden inherited one of if not the worst across-the-board conditions of any incoming administration from the outgoing Repub administration prior to that time. The economic handoff from Repub Hoover to FDR might have been marginally worse. But FDR didn't hit the ground with multiple failed Repub quagmire ground wars also raging in the background.

Then, astonishingly, Obama-Biden cleaned up the Mount Everest of shit they inherited and handed off one of the greatest across-the-board conditions ever to the most popular, iconic, beloved (by Repubs), near perfect "pro business", big talker, lord and savior Repub so-called potus of all time, so beloved his Repub voting minions attacked and tried to kill cops in order to convert the USA into a dictatorship with him as the dictator. And they are still working hard to do it.

And that Repub, like so many Repubs before him, squandered, strangled and killed the historically positive conditions he inherited from the Dems and created the Marianas Trench of economic, national security and foreign policy conditions to dump America into and for Biden-Harris to pull us out of it.

And in little more than 16 months, the record shows they are doing a better job of it than anyone predicted anyone could have done without Divine Intervention.

https://www.rt.com/russia/557346-put...ech-takeaways/

17 Jun, 2022 18:20.

HomeRussia & FSU.

[Axel Heyst]

First, the NASDAQ being in bear territory does not count. Then the S&P goes down to the bear territory, and you are hanging on with the Dow. The Dow is not "beloved" by me. It is by you though because it is the only index that shows Biden has not 100% crashed the economy. What crap will you come up with next?

Here you go following every market gyration and have invested in index funds, and you are bragging about not looking at your portfolio. Why would you need to look at your portfolio if you own index funds?

Hey everyone, here is EIH's investment advice. When your stocks go up, you look at your portfolio and brag about how much it has gone up. When it goes down, you do not look at it and then it is not a real loss.

Only a dumb Dem could give investment advice like that.

You have already lied about keeping score. You are way, way down to me and you are just too much of a coward to admit it. And I question your gains given your accounting methods.

Elvis, it is pointless to argue with someone who is as far gone as our little left wing BKK'er. He drank the cool aid a long time ago when he was a university student and he has never been sane since. Just imagine what he would be posting if Trump were still president and all this same shit was happening under Trump's watch.

[EihTooms]

First, the NASDAQ being in bear territory does not count. Then the S&P goes down to the bear territory, and you are hanging on with the Dow. The Dow is not "beloved" by me. It is by you though because it is the only index that shows Biden has not 100% crashed the economy. What crap will you come up with next?

Here you go following every market gyration and have invested in index funds, and you are bragging about not looking at your portfolio. Why would you need to look at your portfolio if you own index funds?

Hey everyone, here is EIH's investment advice. When your stocks go up, you look at your portfolio and brag about how much it has gone up. When it goes down, you do not look at it and then it is not a real loss.

Only a dumb Dem could give investment advice like that.

You have already lied about keeping score. You are way, way down to me and you are just too much of a coward to admit it. And I question your gains given your accounting methods.

Still waiting for your link to this:

Biden promised he would fix all problems created by Trump

Sorry, but there is no definition of "100% crashed the economy" that is measured solely by where a couple of stock market index are at the moment.

You thought the Dow was the go-to measure for the USA stock market until it stubbornly and to this day has not yet closed in a nominal Bear Market under Biden or meaningfully lower than than it closed under Trump in December 2018, years before Trump's Mega Bear Market decline and the worst across-the-board handoff from an outgoing administration to an incoming one in history. In fact, at this point even Wall Street's go-to measure for that, the S&P 500 Index, closed only 2-3 percentage points lower than it did under Trump in December 2018.

Now, I don't know what math you're using to conclude a 3. 6% and stable Unemployment Rate (down in record time from double digits under Trump), weekly jobless claims consistently well within the range for healthy jobs creation (after having skyrocketed under Trump), hundreds of thousands of new job being created, also in record time (after Trump's disastrous economic decisions wiped out millions upon millions of them and grossly underperformed Obama-Biden on jobs creation even before Trump's Pandemic) and, despite Trump's Global Supply-Chain Destruction Inflation, Americans buying gas, traveling, shopping and buying things so rabidly the Fed has to raise Fed Funds Rates just to keep them from overheating the economy beyond anything seen in decades as "100% crashing the economy. ".

But if it's the same math you're using to tell yourself what your win vs losses are in the stock market over the course of your gambling career, I suspect you are upside down on return for your bets at closer to that "100%" rate than Biden's roaring economy is to "crashing. ".

[Elvis 2008]

LOL. It must be killing you that the colossal mess Trump made of everything has still not yet driven your beloved Dow into a Bear Market close under Biden. Maybe tomorrow. Who knows? Personally and as a Long Term investor that doesn't even need the money in his portfolio anymore, I don't care.

First, the NASDAQ being in bear territory does not count. Then the S&P goes down to the bear territory, and you are hanging on with the Dow. The Dow is not "beloved" by me. It is by you though because it is the only index that shows Biden has not 100% crashed the economy. What crap will you come up with next?

Meanwhile, as a Long Term investor, I haven't even bothered to type out the keys to look at my portfolio in weeks.

Here you go following every market gyration and have invested in index funds, and you are bragging about not looking at your portfolio. Why would you need to look at your portfolio if you own index funds?

Hey everyone, here is EIH's investment advice. When your stocks go up, you look at your portfolio and brag about how much it has gone up. When it goes down, you do not look at it and then it is not a real loss.

Only a dumb Dem could give investment advice like that.

When your investing life style produces the 1000%s gains as mine did over the course of 30 years to the point where there is no desperate need to "keep score" by the hour, get back to me.

You have already lied about keeping score. You are way, way down to me and you are just too much of a coward to admit it. And I question your gains given your accounting methods.

[Elvis 2008]

And in little more than 16 months, the record shows they are doing a better job of it than anyone predicted anyone could have done without Divine Intervention.

For the record, you might want to tell people that is your eyewitness account from Thailand.

[EihTooms]

Dude, please stop blaming Trump for creating any mess and that being any reason for Biden's failure. First, Trump didn't create any mess rather improved upon the mess Obama left, that's my strong opinion but you don't have to agree with me. That said, Biden and Dems promised in 2020 campaign and debates that he would fix the "problems" created by Trump. So even if we agree that Trump created any mess (which he didn't), Biden is still a huge failure on his own election promises as most things keep getting worse for USA with Biden instead of improving. Capeesh?

Biden promised he would fix all problems created by Trump

Please provide a link for that promise.

Trump produced so many unprecedented and seemingly insurmountable problems for America requiring decades to fix and not a mere 4-8 years it is not likely Biden said anything like that even in jest. I doubt he even said anything as stupid as "I alone can fix it!" about any one of those horrific conditions Trump handed him.

Obama-Biden inherited one of if not the worst across-the-board conditions of any incoming administration from the outgoing Repub administration prior to that time. The economic handoff from Repub Hoover to FDR might have been marginally worse. But FDR didn't hit the ground with multiple failed Repub quagmire ground wars also raging in the background.

Then, astonishingly, Obama-Biden cleaned up the Mount Everest of shit they inherited and handed off one of the greatest across-the-board conditions ever to the most popular, iconic, beloved (by Repubs), near perfect "pro business", big talker, lord and savior Repub so-called potus of all time, so beloved his Repub voting minions attacked and tried to kill cops in order to convert the USA into a dictatorship with him as the dictator. And they are still working hard to do it.

And that Repub, like so many Repubs before him, squandered, strangled and killed the historically positive conditions he inherited from the Dems and created the Marianas Trench of economic, national security and foreign policy conditions to dump America into and for Biden-Harris to pull us out of it.

And in little more than 16 months, the record shows they are doing a better job of it than anyone predicted anyone could have done without Divine Intervention.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Dude, please stop blaming Trump for creating any mess and that being any reason for Biden's failure. First, Trump didn't create any mess rather improved upon the mess Obama left, that's my strong opinion but you don't have to agree with me. That said, Biden and Dems promised in 2020 campaign and debates that he would fix the "problems" created by Trump. So even if we agree that Trump created any mess (which he didn't), Biden is still a huge failure on his own election promises as most things keep getting worse for USA with Biden instead of improving. Capeesh?

https://www.breitbart.com/africa/202...q-in-mandarin/

[Gino02]

LOL. It must be killing you that the colossal mess Trump made of everything has still not yet driven your beloved Dow into a Bear Market close under Biden. Maybe tomorrow. Who knows? Personally and as a Long Term investor that doesn't even need the money in his portfolio anymore, I don't care.

And a recession, if any, is predicted by most economists to be a very shallow one that might not even be meaningful enough for NBER to actually call it a "recession."

Driving Repubs crazy! LOL.

Meanwhile, as a Long Term investor, I haven't even bothered to type out the keys to look at my portfolio in weeks. You say your scrambling from one financial advisor to another, clawing at everything you can find on what to buy, sell or hold throughout the day and night has you up 70% this month? Good for you.

When your investing life style produces the 1000%s gains as mine did over the course of 30 years to the point where there is no desperate need to "keep score" by the hour, get back to me.

BTW, tonight it's going to be Mexican food and a 20 year old university co-ed I am helping with her tuition. She'll stay overnight. I did about 5 minutes of due diligence to make those decisions.

Dude, please stop blaming Trump for creating any mess and that being any reason for Biden's failure. First, Trump didn't create any mess rather improved upon the mess Obama left, that's my strong opinion but you don't have to agree with me. That said, Biden and Dems promised in 2020 campaign and debates that he would fix the "problems" created by Trump. So even if we agree that Trump created any mess (which he didn't), Biden is still a huge failure on his own election promises as most things keep getting worse for USA with Biden instead of improving. Capeesh?

[Elvis 2008]

LOL. It must be killing you that the colossal mess Trump made of everything

Nah, I do not blame Trump for a virus the Chinese made and let out of a lab like you.

And a recession, if any, is predicted by most economists to be a very shallow one that might not even be meaningful enough for NBER to actually call it a "recession."

Are these the same "most" economists who said inflation was transitory?

Meanwhile, as a Long Term investor, I haven't even bothered to type out the keys to look at my portfolio in weeks.

Only a dumb Dem would brag about not selling high.

You say your scrambling from one financial advisor to another

Look a Dem just made something up and claimed it to be fact. Now that is a rare sight (sarc).

clawing at everything you can find on what to buy, sell or hold throughout the day

You are two for two with making up stuff. I was very specific with what I bought. I said SDOW, SPXU, and SQQQ. I bought them in late April.

When your investing life style produces the 1000%s gains as mine did over the course of 30 years to the point where there is no desperate need to "keep score" by the hour, get back to me.

I am confused as to who made the alleged thousands of precents of gains. Now it is you. Before it was the Democrats. And now you are mentioning a financial adviser.

For the record, in 1979, Business Week had a cover story called the Death of Equities. It is lamented as being wrong. Gold and even diamonds were the hot investment then. Thing is the S&P went down 30% before the massive rise. There is no reason for you to read it seeing as how you know everything but the main reason for the death of the equities article was inflation. Thank God that is in the past (sarc). https://ritholtz.com/1979/08/the-death-of-equities/.

BTW, tonight it's going to be Mexican food and a 20 year old university co-ed I am helping with her tuition. She'll stay overnight. I did about 5 minutes of due diligence to make those decisions.

That is great. I just got back from Guatemala with my Colombian gal my friends call a 10. Maybe you can find a girl who likes you for you like I did. I have found the sex is better when the woman likes you and it is not all about money.

[DramaFree11]

LOL. It must be killing you that the colossal mess Trump made of everything has still not yet driven your beloved Dow into a Bear Market close under Biden. Maybe tomorrow. Who knows? Personally and as a Long Term investor that doesn't even need the money in his portfolio anymore, I don't care.

And a recession, if any, is predicted by most economists to be a very shallow one that might not even be meaningful enough for NBER to actually call it a "recession."

Driving Repubs crazy! LOL.

Meanwhile, as a Long Term investor, I haven't even bothered to type out the keys to look at my portfolio in weeks. You say your scrambling from one financial advisor to another, clawing at everything you can find on what to buy, sell or hold throughout the day and night has you up 70% this month? Good for you.

When your investing life style produces the 1000%s gains as mine did over the course of 30 years to the point where there is no desperate need to "keep score" by the hour, get back to me..

Trump as nothing to do with the mess you guys are causing.

[PVMonger]

First thanks for correcting my spelling error which was already spelled correctly.

Here is what you said on June 13. It is a direct quote from your post. The only changes I made were to highlight the two (2) instances of your use of the word "historically". The text is as follows: " Historically those are the factors that the Dems used to run on and target. Historically the Reps use supply side economics that favour business, so you would expect the Dems to do better on the factors that they target."

You will note that the first (1st) time you used the word, you spelled it correctly. The second (2nd) time, you did not. So, your contention that the word in question was spelled correctly was incorrect. I guess you only had enough attention span to read one (1) sentence and not two (2). Kinda like the Orange Buffoon.