American Politics

[PVMonger]

Yeah that was my reaction when the leftard mentioned ventilators. Remember a couple of years back when they were the big thing in the fake news media, and Nipples Cuomo was ranting about them every day in between sexually assaulting women, on his show that hollyweird gave him an emmy for?

Then it turned out they were worse than useless, killed everyone who was put on them, and had been a total waste of life and money. So of course the fake news just memoryholed them like Biden collapsing on his plane steps or shitting his pants in the Vatican. Kind of encapsulates the entire scamdemic really, and indeed the entire Washington govt / media swamp.

Jeez, cupcake, are you Elvis the MD in disguise?

Ventilators killed everyone who was put on them? Really? Did your brain ever think that only the very serious COVID cases were put on ventilators? No, you probably didn't. Why not say that chemo and radiation kills everybody who gets that treatment. Because, after all, everybody who has cancer eventually dies, right?

People who think like you are the reason why the US is in such bad shape. Everything is a conspiracy. All doctors, lawyers, journalists, environmentalists, etc. Have all ganged up on the Mango Mussolini and his brain-dead cultists. When the cult looks at a group of people marching somewhere and one person is out-of-step with the rest, the cult claims that everybody else is out-of-step with him.

Oh, yes, and let's not forget the "fake news media". The tRUMP cultists don't know that the leaders in Germany from 1933 to 1945 called the press "fake news" too. Probably because it takes education to know that and education isn't the strong suit of you cultists.

[Paulie97]

BTW Sweden falls in almost exactly the same place in 'deaths per capita'. The neighbors: Denmark, Finland and Norway all fall in the bottom 10% of deaths per capita. Hmmmm.

I guess if you are at the 35th percentile of deaths per capita you might think that was pretty good. But your neighbors are at the 10th percentile. I don't know if care much about your family but if it was my family I sure as hell would like to be taking the course that brought our death rate down from the 35th percentile to the 10th percentile.

The wingnut Covid psuedo-scientists and conspiracy theorists are dependent on comparing Sweden to nations other than the logical choices of their Nordic neighbors. For after all, they need to save face in a hooker forum. In the US red states still lead blue states in per capita deaths, further exposing their lies that masks, vaccines, other restrictions don't work. They are a party to spreading lies that have sent many people unnecessarily to a pre-mature grave. And in the case of this forum, some just in response to their frustrations in having to cancel their sex vacations. What is it about hooker forums that attracts such a high proportion of good family values conservatives? That's an interesting sociological question all by it's lonesome, but I digress.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/red-bl...ry?id=83649085

[EihTooms]

Do you actually seriously think they're going to ban condoms and birth control? Haha! They really did brainwash you good, didn't they? Certainly, they might ban fag "marriage" because that was always a bunch of bullshit which should be decided democratically by the states.

As for the "right to privacy", and the idea abortion is a "Constitutional right", that is just hilarious. Like Washington, Adams and Jefferson were thinking 'we need to make sure sluts can kill their kids' while they were writing it. Just grasping ridiculously at non-existent straws. Only a leftist could lie so shamelessly. "Right to privacy" my ass. If I kill someone in private does that mean I can't be prosecuted? Well, maybe if I'm related to Biden, Pelosi or Clinton, but for anyone else that's a no.

Yeah, "Haha!" They said the same thing about repealing Roe v Wade. In fact, some of the Repubs on the SCOTUS who voted to reject the idea of Right to Privacy and thereby repealed Roe v Wade were some of the people leading the laughs about that considering how respectful they pretended to be about now almost 50 years of legal precedent supporting it.

Biden, other critics fear Thomass extreme position on contraception

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...omas-griswold/

In an opinion concurring with his conservative colleagues on the Supreme Court to overturn the fundamental right to an abortion, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote on Friday that striking down Roe v. Wade should also open up the high court to review other precedents that may be deemed demonstrably erroneous.

Among those, Thomas wrote, was the right for married couples to buy and use contraception without government restriction, from the landmark 1965 ruling in Griswold v. Connecticut.

In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Courts substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell, Thomas wrote on Page 119 of the opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Womens Health, also referring to the rulings that legalized same-sex relationships and marriage equality, respectively. Because any substantive due process decision is demonstrably erroneous we have a duty to correct the error established in those precedents.

Some States Already Are Targeting Birth Control

https://www.pewtrusts.org/research-a...-birth-control

But in the fine print of their measure, those Republicans revealed that their ambition wasnt only to target a familiar abortion foe. They were going after specific forms of birth control as well, notably, emergency contraceptives, often sold under the brand name Plan B, and intrauterine devices, known as IUDs. GOP lawmakers tried to stop Missouris Medicaid agency from paying for those forms of contraception.

AFTER STRIKING DOWN ROE, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THREATENS TO GO AFTER CONTRACEPTION, SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, AND BRING BACK SODOMY LAWS

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022...arriage-sodomy

After Roe v. Wade ruling, Texas AG Ken Paxton say he would defend reinstating state's sodomy law

https://www.sacurrent.com/news/after...y-law-29249154

https://www.aclu.org/other/update-status-sodomy-laws

Sodomy laws generally prohibit oral and anal sex, even between consenting adults.

[EihTooms]

Nah, it is not a coin flip. There are way more than 2 sides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrIfa7gSqsY

Brian Kelly case scenario #1: Inflation goes down to 5%. Fed has said they want to have neutral rates. That means they raise to 5%. Market goes down 70% and I am up 200+%.

BK scenario #2: Inflation goes to 10% next year. Fed goes to 10%. Market crashes 90% and my gains are in the stratosphere.

Santelli scenario: Money is pulled out of the market via massive unemployment. Market goes down 50%. I am up 150%. Argument with Santelli from traders is the Fed has said that unemployment is Biden's job not theirs. Santelli thinks the Fed will back off even though they have said they will not.

Your scenario: Biden waives a magic wand and oil floods the market as the Red Sea parts. Supply chains are mended overnight. China comes back on line but demand from them is way less than anticipated which does not cause inflation to rise. The Russia-Ukraine war is over, and Russian oil comes back on the market. Inflation craters to 2%. If all that happens and Biden is the miracle worker you think, that means prices in the stock market stay where they are.

For stocks to go up, it is not enough that oil demand and supply match each other. No, we have to be swimming in oil, and the only scenario I see with which that can happen is a recession that destroys demand. As for alternatives like electric cars, the lithium in the batteries of cars like Teslas is up 500%.

I do not invest in the stock market unless oil supply way outstrips demand because that is when there is low inflation. So Eih, my question to you is where is all this fucking oil going to come from Gramps? Your ass?

Again, Biden did nothing different to pull us out of the latest Great Repub Economic Disaster than other incoming Dems had to do. Except his efforts worked better and faster than previously.

Yet you say you didn't bail out of the market when the incoming Obama admin had to do it. That is some lucky coin you've got to flip there. Make sure you don't lose it.

Bet you wish it had done as well for you all those other times it didn't flip up the right way, huh?

[Chris P]

The journalist I trust the most is Matt Taibbi, and he went on Ben Shapiro's show, and it was a refreshing discussion between two honest people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAxbhC9UyOM.

If you go to the 43 minute mark, you will see both these guys tear into the stupid narrative health officials were pushing.

If you go back to like the 40 minute mark, Shapiro lists the lies that destroyed the faith so many people have in government institutions. What gets me is now that we know so much of this stuff is bullshit, there are so many dumb Dems who swear they are true. It's like when Viliany says the vaccine prevented transmission. It is like no, dumbass the head of the CDC said it is not true. Why in the hell would you defy her?

It is like what are you gaining for lying?

Good video. Matt Taibbi is worth listening to, as are Glenn Greenwald and Alex Berenson. Naturally, the latter two were forced out of their fake news organizations (The Intercept and The New York Times) for telling the truth.

As for why leftists lie, for the ones at the top it is because they have a lot to gain from their lies. But for the regular doofuses like we see in this forum, it can only be cognitive dissonance. For their entire lives this fake worldview and belief system has been so indoctrinated into them that it has become ingrained in the very grooves of their brains. For them to break out and accept the reality that the entire basis for their existence has been a lie must be truly terrifying. So they keep telling themselves increasingly outrageous falsehoods to cope.

[Chris P]

They will find either a prison cell or a morgue for him sooner rather than later!!

You'd like to think so. And hopefully after the collapse and restoration he'll see justice. But right now the high-level swamp dems are untouchable. That's why they won't release the tapes from Epstein Island.

In fact, they are now siccing the FBI on their political enemies, raiding journalists at Project Veritas and former Trump staffers. Another sign of a failing and moribund banana republic regime.

[Chris P]

LOL. Ventilators. Oh boy.

Yeah that was my reaction when the leftard mentioned ventilators. Remember a couple of years back when they were the big thing in the fake news media, and Nipples Cuomo was ranting about them every day in between sexually assaulting women, on his show that hollyweird gave him an emmy for?

Then it turned out they were worse than useless, killed everyone who was put on them, and had been a total waste of life and money. So of course the fake news just memoryholed them like Biden collapsing on his plane steps or shitting his pants in the Vatican. Kind of encapsulates the entire scamdemic really, and indeed the entire Washington govt / media swamp.

[Elvis 2008]

If the lack of lockdown made a difference, Sweden would have been at the very top of the list, with hundreds of thousands dropping dead left right and centre. They are the placebo case that proves your entire thesis is bullshit.

And yet you cling grimly to it. Again, I am astounded by the degree to which leftists can totally ignore factual reality in order to push their completely fake and false narrative. It is in itself a kind of mental illness, one that we will need to address after we retake our country.

M.

This is crazy, hosptial definitely got money for Covid. Also, I have friends in Mxico that got money if they signed off if someone had Covid. You really think the Covid test is 100% accurate, Hell no. I also have friends that got all 4 vaccines and still got Covid.

The journalist I trust the most is Matt Taibbi, and he went on Ben Shapiro's show, and it was a refreshing discussion between two honest people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAxbhC9UyOM.

If you go to the 43 minute mark, you will see both these guys tear into the stupid narrative health officials were pushing.

If you go back to like the 40 minute mark, Shapiro lists the lies that destroyed the faith so many people have in government institutions. What gets me is now that we know so much of this stuff is bullshit, there are so many dumb Dems who swear they are true. It's like when Viliany says the vaccine prevented transmission. It is like no, dumbass the head of the CDC said it is not true. Why in the hell would you defy her?

It is like what are you gaining for lying?

[Gino02]

Defund the Democrats: Stop giving money to the party of surrender and inaction. Salon (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ion/ar-AAZ93Sm).

Hilarious when brainwashed libtards realizes they are feeding the cronies. LOL.

[JustTK]

ROFL. You accept that Sweden was in the bottom 25% of European covid deaths, far lower than the majority of countries that implemented brutal, damaging lockdowns that ruined millions of lives.

Superb discussion on Sweden and COVID here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp7_o9QGzzA

[Villainy]

ROFL. You accept that Sweden was in the bottom 25% of European covid deaths, far lower than the majority of countries that implemented brutal, damaging lockdowns that ruined millions of lives.

But rather than do the honest thing and say "Yup, looks like they were right. There was no need for these terrible, destructive lockdowns after all, with the livelihoods wrecked, increase in suicide, domestic abuse, drug abuse, mental illness, lack of child development and many more horrific outcomes", you keep up the clownshow by saying "the bottom 25% wasn't good enough!

I made a horrendous mistake! When Elvis said that Sweden is in the bottom 25% of CoVid cases in Europe I didn't check it. Mistake, I did this time. Sweden is in the bottom 35% of per capita CoVid cases. Not as good as Elvis would have you believe. Why? Because many of the smaller countries have much greater population density. Countries like Monaco, San Marino, Andorra, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Montenegro. You get the idea. More densely populated means more people living in less space hence higher likelihood of transmission.

BTW Sweden falls in almost exactly the same place in 'deaths per capita'. The neighbors: Denmark, Finland and Norway all fall in the bottom 10% of deaths per capita. Hmmmm.

I guess if you are at the 35th percentile of deaths per capita you might think that was pretty good. But your neighbors are at the 10th percentile. I don't know if care much about your family but if it was my family I sure as hell would like to be taking the course that brought our death rate down from the 35th percentile to the 10th percentile.

If the lack of lockdown made a difference, Sweden would have been at the very top of the list, with hundreds of thousands dropping dead left right and centre. They are the placebo case that proves your entire thesis is bullshit.

And yet you cling grimly to it. Again, I am astounded by the degree to which leftists can totally ignore factual reality in order to push their completely fake and false narrative. It is in itself a kind of mental illness, one that we will need to address after we retake our country.

I don't think you understand what happened with lockdowns. Without going into the details in every country in Europe. Let's just look at the Scandinavian countries so that you can understand it.

Sweden didn't go into lockdowns. The neighbors did but obviously they couldn't stay locked down for a long time. The critical point is this was the early days (say the virus started March 2020). The lockdowns (which were never promoted as a "permanent solution") had the expected effect. Hospitals were able to increase their ICU capability including purchasing ventilators. Vaccines were several months closer to general availability. Net result? Less deaths. Elvis proudly boasted that later when the neighboring countries had big increases in CoVid cases (mostly due to Omnicron) that the tide was turning. But the reality is that Omnicron was far more virulent but also far less lethal and although the neighboring countries lost most of their big advantage in having less cases the lower death count has never changed.

Lockdowns were never a permanent solution. The countries that used them were only able to keep that up for a few months. But the earlier those few months were the better. Results show it.

Sweden would never have been at the top of the death list. Other countries didn't use lockdowns either. Sweden isn't a densely populated country. Population density IS a major factor in how quickly the virus spreads.

[Villainy]

Yeah, and I use it right. One in 10 hospital deaths is listed as due to blood clots. Eight of ten are not listed as causes of death, but they could be.

Roughly 1 out of 10 hospital deaths are related to blood clots in the lungs.

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/hospi...fographic.html

I'm still waiting to see your source.

No, I am saying you do not have the data to show that it was wrong. You have Covid related deaths not deaths due to Covid.

So CoVid depleted the immune system and you're arguing about whether it was the CoVid that killed him / her or whether it was something else which was accelerated by the depleted immune system.

US Deaths 1,043,316 (7/2/22).

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

How many deaths were unreported as CoVid?? If anything that number should be higher.

Your own link shows that not to be true. If someone dies from a heart attack or blood clot or anything, the hospital is incentivized to do a post mortem Covid test and put that on the death certificate.

Apparently your reading skills are failing you. Look at the headline of the page in BIG BOLD letters.

No, hospitals don't get more money when they list COVID-19 as a patients cause of death

https://www.verifythis.com/article/n...2-0ff482593afd

I tried to help you out but you never learn. Hospitals get paid extra for treating Medicare patients with CoVid but NOT for marking a death certificate as a CoVid death. Pay attention to the key words there Treating Medicare Patients.

Why stop there? They would have had no deaths and increased life expectancy if only they had listened to you.

Sweden is in the bottom 25% of Covid cases in Europe.

I made a horrendous mistake! When Elvis said that Sweden is in the bottom 25% of CoVid cases in Europe I didn't check it. Mistake, I did this time. Sweden is in the bottom 35% of per capita CoVid cases. Not as good as Elvis would have you believe. Why? Because many of the smaller countries have much greater population density. Countries like Monaco, San Marino, Andorra, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Montenegro. You get the idea. More densly populated means more people living in less space hence higher likelihood of transmission.

BTW Sweden falls in almost exactly the same place in 'deaths per capita'. The neighbors: Denmark, Finland and Norway all fall in the bottem 10% of deaths per capita. Hmmmm.

Only thing nonsensical about that statement is you are telling a lie. Period.

Then why did the rate of CoVid infection go down after the vaccines were approved and widely used? The rate spiked again when the Omicron variant made its debut in December-January 2022.

Why did the death rate go down after the vaccines were approved and widely used? With a far smaller spike in December-January 2022?

What does not very effective mean? And lower death rate compared to whom? That statement is not based on a double blind study. It is purely observational and would be rejected as unscientific in every other instance. Approval of the vaccines was based on lower transmission rates. Period. Once that statement is proven to be false, you do not get to make up some new benefit if you are being scientific.

The vaccines resulted in a drop in cases and a drop in deaths. I humiliated you in another post where you said you saw NO drop in the death rate. I linked you to 10 European countries that had graphs that showed that the original CoVid cases and deaths dropped off starting April-June of 2021 but the cases spked again in December-January 2022. However the death rate remained much lower than before.

OMG. China lied to Trump. China allowed international travelers to come into Wuhan while banning domestic ones coming in. They took a ton of information about Corona virus offline from their lab, and you are going on about how great China is and how we should believe their data? Yeah, why not? You are a Dem after all.

Remind me, who pulled our viral scientists out of China because they weren't needed? Oooopsie They were needed. One of Trump's many fiascos that was someone elses fault.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21C3N5

Whether you like China or not, they seemed to have taken extreme measures to isolate CoVid carriers and control the spread.

[Chris P]

Clarence Thomas, a very Republican man married to an even more Republican woman, has already put contraception in the bullseye for the Very Big Government Everywhere Especially In Your Bedroom Repub majority SCOTUS. Probably under orders from his wife.

See, once they ruled there is no Right To Privacy under the law

Do you actually seriously think they're going to ban condoms and birth control? Haha! They really did brainwash you good, didn't they? Certainly, they might ban fag "marriage" because that was always a bunch of bullshit which should be decided democratically by the states.

As for the "right to privacy", and the idea abortion is a "Constitutional right", that is just hilarious. Like Washington, Adams and Jefferson were thinking 'we need to make sure sluts can kill their kids' while they were writing it. Just grasping ridiculously at non-existent straws. Only a leftist could lie so shamelessly. "Right to privacy" my ass. If I kill someone in private does that mean I can't be prosecuted? Well, maybe if I'm related to Biden, Pelosi or Clinton, but for anyone else that's a no.

[Chris P]

And if Sweden had acted more responsibly as did their neighbors they would have been in the bottom 10% and saved many lives.

ROFL. You accept that Sweden was in the bottom 25% of European covid deaths, far lower than the majority of countries that implemented brutal, damaging lockdowns that ruined millions of lives.

But rather than do the honest thing and say "Yup, looks like they were right. There was no need for these terrible, destructive lockdowns after all, with the livelihoods wrecked, increase in suicide, domestic abuse, drug abuse, mental illness, lack of child development and many more horrific outcomes", you keep up the clownshow by saying "the bottom 25% wasn't good enough!

If the lack of lockdown made a difference, Sweden would have been at the very top of the list, with hundreds of thousands dropping dead left right and centre. They are the placebo case that proves your entire thesis is bullshit.

And yet you cling grimly to it. Again, I am astounded by the degree to which leftists can totally ignore factual reality in order to push their completely fake and false narrative. It is in itself a kind of mental illness, one that we will need to address after we retake our country.

[Chris P]

I think he learned it from the Trump kids.

No, because if the Trump kids had done 10% of what he has done (multiple counts of hard drug abuse, felonies, corruption, the list is endless) it would be all over the fake news media every single day.

Just like they had a pisspants meltdown when Trump walked slowly down a wet, slippery ramp to avoid slipping, but completely memoryholed Biden collapsing three times while trying to walk up the steps of his plane. Or more recently, falling off his bike when it wasn't even moving: perhaps the Secret Service should attach stabilizer wheels in future?

All just more of the myriad examples of fake media bias and lies by omission. Time to end it, one way or another.