American Politics

[Canada]

Look into Hannity's eyes and you'll find Putin's soul.

Look into Biden eyes and you will see Putin's puppet.

[EihTooms]

But all those blue cities and states were locking down and forcing mandates full on gestapo chi-com style. Shouldn't there have been a much lower case and death rate compared to red states like Florida, who let their peasants, err, I mean citizens live their life a way in which they choose?

Heres Where COVID-19 Cases Are Rising and Falling
June 15, 2021.
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...s-increasing-2

..For the week that ended Sunday, 20 states reported increases in COVID-19 cases, compared with three states the previous week.

Missouri had the highest increase with a 101 percent jump to 4,517 new cases.

The CDC reported that Florida had the most new cases in the past 7 days with 10,676. Thats about 3,000 less than the previous week.

Texas was second with 8,421 new cases this past week, about 200 fewer than the previous week.

Colorado was third with 4,137 cases. California was next with 3,967 new cases and Washington was fifth with 3,833.

The CDC reports that on a per capita basis, Wyoming leads with almost 80 cases per 100,000 residents over the past 7 days.

Colorado is second with 71 cases per 100,000 residents, followed by Missouri with 62 cases per 100,000 residents. Next is Utah with 59 cases per 100,000 residents and Arkansas with 52 cases.

There were 21 states that reported an increase this past week in COVID-19 deaths, compared with 11 states the previous week.

Florida recorded the most COVID-19 deaths over the past 7 days with 232.

Texas was second with 217 reported deaths. That was followed by Georgia with 172, Pennsylvania with 130, and Illinois with 118 deaths.

[PVMonger]

You must have missed the prior administration is over -- unless you're still counting on the recount. What matters is what's happening now, see? It's understandable that if you're unemployed, your concern would be with finding a job. As for the increasingly likely scenario of inflation and decline of our purchasing power and foreign exchange rate, what's the Biden regime going to do about it.

I realize that fascists will call the following article 'fake news' but I guess fascusts don't understand that the pandemic and inflation are interrelated. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...demic-as-a-war.

[Golfinho]

A worldwide pandemic curtailed production of consumer goods, mining of raw materials, etc in case you forgot. Of course a president could force these businesses to stay open an bleed money, but that would be socialist, wouldn't it?

With restrictions easing, guess what? Lots of demand and limited supply. What does that equal? Inflation.

Or do you suggest that Biden implement price controls that you would call socialist.

Republikkkants are so predictable.

Demand from who? From all these broke millions of Americans that needed stimulus checks (fresh from the dollar printing presses) just to survive? We'll define supply and demand in 2021 for you: the corporations demanded to be supplied with cash so they could remain whole and pay their management and investors. So the government printed money, doled it out to the plebes so they could make their Mastercard / Visa interest payments.

[Just Incognito]

It was a sustained assault upon a US consulate. Which is American territory. Which killed a US ambassador. The security of the ambassador was the responsibility of the Secretary of State, Crooked Hillary Clinton, and the President, Barack Hussein Okenya. They failed and betrayed their country, neither for the first nor the last time.

The us govt commandeered. And just used and called a consular office--it wasn't some big built up US property. They were there for a few days.

The locals didn't like that and kicked the Americans out. It so happened he ambassador was there. Had nothing to do with Hillary. Wasn't. A big conspiracy. Hillary was exonerated by the republicans in both houses of congress. Why don't you believe in and support your government? Hard to claim the manle of patriotism if you don't believe in your govt of for and by the people. It wasn't Hillary's fault LOL.

You guys are so desperate for anything to gain legitimacy because you have no policy substance that actually helps anything to offer. You say Obama failed and betrayed the country when it was trump who sided with Putin over US intel agencies, fell in love with a dictator running north Korea, and lied to the American people about the virus and about 22,000 other things, even siding with Nazis and the KKK and an insurrection against our nation where trumptards like you cheered for killing the vice president of the USA. That's a betrayal of the country--your side did that. You have no right to try and talk about betraying the nation after January 6th.

[Golfinho]

Seriously? You think that is all on Biden? You must have missed the trillions of tax give-aways to corporations and the richest Americans which came out of the prior administration.

You must have missed the prior administration is over -- unless you're still counting on the recount. What matters is what's happening now, see? It's understandable that if you're unemployed, your concern would be with finding a job. As for the increasingly likely scenario of inflation and decline of our purchasing power and foreign exchange rate, what's the Biden regime going to do about it.

[PVMonger]

Is normal for a Western country: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/.

Brazil, Italy, Belgium, Croatia, Poland, Argentina and the UK, among others, are all higher (though interestingly Sweden, which had no lockdown, is slightly lower).

Of course there is no way to accurately measure the cases per millions as so many people had the disease without knowing or reporting it. But most American and European countries are around the same level: the US is in no way an outlier (though it may have been an upper outlier if Trump had not banned flights from China in January 2020, which Biden and Pelosi opposed at the time).

I see you failed to answer my original question regarding Thailand. Why is it that fascists can't answer a simple question?

And once again you bring up the orange fruitcake's 'close the barn door after the horses have escaped' travel ban. You can lead a fascist to wisdom but you can't make him think.

[PVMonger]

The concern should be for inflation, at least for anyone here. What's the Biden regime doing about that, besides running the printing presses and creating more dollars.

A worldwide pandemic curtailed production of consumer goods, mining of raw materials, etc in case you forgot. Of course a president could force these businesses to stay open an bleed money, but that would be socialist, wouldn't it?

With restrictions easing, guess what? Lots of demand and limited supply. What does that equal? Inflation.

Or do you suggest that Biden implement price controls that you would call socialist.

Republikkkants are so predictable.

[Villainy]

The concern should be for inflation, at least for anyone here. What's the Biden regime doing about that, besides running the printing presses and creating more dollars.

Seriously? You think that is all on Biden? You must have missed the trillions of tax give-aways to corporations and the richest Americans which came out of the prior administration.

[Golfinho]

Government regulations are like tax policies; the overall positive or negative results depend very much on which and where regulations (as in taxes) are reduced or increased.

To whatever extent government regulations influence the unemployment rate, it looks like the only presidents since 1972 (as far back as I went in order to still see the dates on the chart even while zooming) who managed to significantly reduce the unemployment rate without skyrocketing it to unsustainable economy-damage levels first or eventually were (D)Carter, (D)Clinton and (D)Obama.

See the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics chart below.

So I guess that means they win the awards for best handling of government regulations. And if it was because they cut regulations in the right way and places then devotees of reduced government regulations now know which Party to vote for and which Party to avoid like the plague.

Yes, I do wish they had put their expertise to use on that Abundance of Pussy = Lower Prices thing. But then we'd have to deal with the whole "Does Lower Prices = Better Pussy?" debate.

Btw, that huge, long, historic, steady decline in the unemployment rate you see in the chart (for virtually every demographic) that began in mid 2009, the trajectory of which extended firmly into the beginning of (R)Trump's so-called presidency while he played golf, was triggered by the passage of the (D)Obama-(D)Biden, (D)Pelosi, (D)Reid American Recovery and Re-investment Act of February 2009 without any Repub support and votes. Repubs were still running for office on the lie that it and (D)Obama made the (R)GW Bush economic disaster "worse" well into the 2012, 2014 and 2016 election campaigns.

The concern should be for inflation, at least for anyone here. What's the Biden regime doing about that, besides running the printing presses and creating more dollars.

[EihTooms]

That's a lot of hampster-wheeling to explain why we had record unemployment numbers under President Trump, yet it was somehow magically because of democrats, LOL.

It's very simple. Reduced government regulations are good for capitalism.

For example, in the USA, prostitution in almost all areas of the country is illegal (Highly regulated). These regulations lead to a shortage of ladies willing to offer services. Shortage of pussy=High prices.

In Mexico, prostitution is legal in most places, these lack of regulations leads to an abundance of ladies willing to offer services. Abundance of pussy=Lower prices.

Government regulations are like tax policies; the overall positive or negative results depend very much on which and where regulations (as in taxes) are reduced or increased.

To whatever extent government regulations influence the unemployment rate, it looks like the only presidents since 1972 (as far back as I went in order to still see the dates on the chart even while zooming) who managed to significantly reduce the unemployment rate without skyrocketing it to unsustainable economy-damage levels first or eventually were (D)Carter, (D)Clinton and (D)Obama.

See the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics chart below.

So I guess that means they win the awards for best handling of government regulations. And if it was because they cut regulations in the right way and places then devotees of reduced government regulations now know which Party to vote for and which Party to avoid like the plague.

Yes, I do wish they had put their expertise to use on that Abundance of Pussy = Lower Prices thing. But then we'd have to deal with the whole "Does Lower Prices = Better Pussy?" debate.

Btw, that huge, long, historic, steady decline in the unemployment rate you see in the chart (for virtually every demographic) that began in mid 2009, the trajectory of which extended firmly into the beginning of (R)Trump's so-called presidency while he played golf, was triggered by the passage of the (D)Obama-(D)Biden, (D)Pelosi, (D)Reid American Recovery and Re-investment Act of February 2009 without any Repub support and votes. Repubs were still running for office on the lie that it and (D)Obama made the (R)GW Bush economic disaster "worse" well into the 2012, 2014 and 2016 election campaigns.

[Paulie97]

Of course, if we subtract the densely populated USA cities this virus loved and needed to move rapidly from human to human, most of which could be characterized as Blue cities in Blue states, we could not only proudly claim very low Covid-19 cases and deaths but also very low national economic strength and influence, very low national security preparedness centers, very low standards of living, very low tax revenue, very low higher education rates, etc.

I suppose it could be argued we would also have very low crime rates, too, but only for a little while until any other country with at least the military strength of Spain decides to invade, occupy and take whatever they want with very little resistance.

That was very well stated. The truth is naturally a lot more intricate than the race baiting, "Democratic cities" or "Blue states" propaganda aimed at saving Trump's presidency. But simplistic and misleading arguments have been part of the playbook of Trumpism for a long time, aimed at leading along the gullible and bigoted with tunes they find pleasing. I'll add that New York after a very rough start smashed the curve from May through October of 2020. As expected they had a winter surge but still kept deaths relatively low. Scroll down and check the graphs. Wow. You'll never hear about this though in the Fox evening propaganda hours.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

And how did NY do it? The answer is obvious, with sound policies and compliance with the same, masks, social distancing, etc. Just common sense stuff, the same stuff that worked many places in Asia and in Scandinavia, excepting Sweden. And I'll end with this, there was a fraudulent anti-mask study circulating around wingnut media that was full of misquotes while lying about their association with Stanford University. It was pulled from the medical journal it found publication in while Stanford has publicly disassociated themselves. It's time to move on from the quackery, and we should do this as a nation. And by the way our buddy Elvis was recently pushing this same fake study in the Colombia section.

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2021/0...ed-by-journal/

https://twitter.com/StanfordMed/stat...57123864444930

[CrowExplorer]

Of course, if we eliminated the densely populated USA cities this virus loved and needed to move rapidly from human to human, most of which could be characterized as Blue cities in Blue states, we could not only proudly claim very low Covid-19 cases and deaths but also very low national economic strength and influence, very low national security preparedness centers, very low standards of living, very low tax revenue, very low higher education rates, etc.

But all those blue cities and states were locking down and forcing mandates full on gestapo chi-com style. Shouldn't there have been a much lower case and death rate compared to red states like Florida, who let their peasants, err, I mean citizens live their life a way in which they choose?

[EihTooms]

Well first of all, covid knows no politics. It effects various ethnicities and geographical locations differently. The Spanish flu for instance, hit America, Europe, India really hard, but not Asia. And ethnic groups within America were disproportionately affected, especially those of Native American descent.

If you insist on being political though, it probably didn't help the death count when blue state governors such as Whitmer and Cuomo ordered nursing homes to accept covid 19 patients. It is a fact that if you lived in a blue state during the pandemic you were 2. 9 times more likely to die of covid 19. If you were to subtract all of the blue state deaths from the national death count, the USA would have done quite well compared to the rest of the world. Too bad the democrat led states had to drag us down.

Of course, if we subtract the densely populated USA cities this virus loved and needed to move rapidly from human to human, most of which could be characterized as Blue cities in Blue states, we could not only proudly claim very low Covid-19 cases and deaths but also very low national economic strength and influence, very low national security preparedness centers, very low standards of living, very low tax revenue, very low higher education rates, etc.

I suppose it could be argued we would also have very low crime rates, too, but only for a little while until any other country with at least the military strength of Spain decides to invade, occupy and take whatever they want with very little resistance.

[EihTooms]

Aaaaand. Still no comment on Biden's handlers boosting Russia by okaying their pipeline while crippling America by cancelling ours.

First you'll need to explain and link your proof that any of that happened; specifically that canceling the Keystone Pipeline cripples America and that Biden has the power to ok or deny pipelines in Germany and/or Russia.

That's pretty damn universally powerful for a supposedly "senile old man" I would say.