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Today 09:38 #14356
Posts: 1103Yet another alumni Trump University...
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
I forget, Elvis 2008, must have taken accounting/math at Trump University. You know, the one that says, to arbitrarily deflate the numbers/asset valuations when in office/being taxed and inflate the numbers when I'm out of office/going to the bank for a loan. If I'm not mistaken, Trump was found guilty and ordered to pay $355 million in tax fraud, for such fraudulent claims.
Yeah, attending Trump University would about sum up your nonsensical example, w/r to the numbers you're pulling outta your ass on immigration! (...kkkk!)
Meanwhile the billionaires have you and your FOXY Muse gullible minions, doing their biding, as Trump Tax cuts benefit the top 1%, while paying very little to nothing in federal taxes.
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Sleepy Trumpy Trump is clobbering Biden?...NOT according to:- Democrat Tom Suozzi win the N.Y. 3rd district, 2024 special election (for the seat left vacant by George Santos), beating the Repub candidate, largely on immigration, issues.
- Repub Chip Roy (R-TX), as it's abundantly clear, that the border problems and failure, were ALL due to TRUMP!
- The CBPs estimated at-the-border apprehension rate averaged 78%, from 2018 to 2020, compared to 35% from 2002 to 2004.
- The beloved drafted bipartisan border security bill by the Senate and Sen. James Lankford (R-OK), that solves most everything Repubs want.
- The numerous election wins in 2022, 2023 and 2024, Democrats have demolished Repubs in elections, special elections and primaries, on primarily the number one issue that front and center for most Americans abortion, abortion bans, women's health and reproductive rights to choose.
Hint: If Repubs, want to win the presidential election race in 2024, they may want to take off the blinders on those women issues.
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Yesterday 23:08 #14355
Posts: 3205Originally Posted by Beijing4987 [View Original Post]
Hell, you probably still think Covid came from nature and not a lab.
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Yesterday 14:51 #14354
Posts: 3205Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
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Yesterday 05:38 #14353
Posts: 5427Missing the forest for the trees
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Hell, Trump's appointed and befuddled Fed Chairman probably wishes those crossings would finally show some meaningful sign of tamping down Bidenomics' greatest jobs creation and wage gains results to do for the current modest rate of inflation what his clumsy guidance has failed to do after three years.
Again and as usual, the only real threat to any of those truly significant Biden / Dem accomplishnents for keeping America the greatest and most Economically successful country on Earth with the most powerful and effective National Security is The Republican Party, the Pink Tinkle Repub Majority in the House, the Repubs in the Senate, the Repub Majority in the Supreme Court and, of course, their America-hating cult leader Donald Trump. Not border-crossing asylum-seekers.
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Yesterday 03:04 #14352
Posts: 686Guesstimates are 🚫 not facts
Nor are "alternative facts" How many hundreds of millions did Fox News pay to settle the Dominion Voting machine lawsuit? More lawsuits are pending. How about a "guesstimate" of how many undocumented immigrants that work, own businesses and pay taxes vs oligarchs that pay no taxes?
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Yesterday 01:22 #14351
Posts: 1103Speaking of substantiating facts and something called INTEGRITY...
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
I think it's perhaps more to do with the fact that Dems, don't like being lied to, misinformed and spoon-fed by Putin and his Russian disinformation propaganda campaign, to gullible news media like FOXY Muse and it's "ground breaking coverage of lies", it's regular list of Russian Repub House "useful idiots" and the like, spouting QAnon "Jewish Space Lasers" conspiracies, or for that matter conspiracies about "Italian spy satellites" hacking our very secure, safe, free and fair election voting system or machines.
- Another ISGer, from a previous convo, sums up FOXY Muse, with "laser" like precision:
Originally Posted by The Cane [View Original Post]
Yes, that "something", is called Journalistic Integrity.
Which when translated for those on the right unfamiliar with the term, means the ability to report the truth, the facts, that are corroborated, substantiated, verified and validated, from trusted and reliable sources, that adhere to industry ethical and journalistic standards.
So I think it's safe to say, at FOXY Muse, neither they nor their "gullible" loyal watchers, care much for integrity, much less deliver a certain level of professionalism, commensurate with that expected from one of journalistic integrity.
- Another ISGer, from a previous convo, sums up FOXY Muse, with "laser" like precision:
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Yesterday 00:55 #14350
Posts: 1103Do you hear yourself?
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
How exactly do you expect a reader to RESPECT what you wrote, when you're throwing up wild numbers, unsubstantiated with anything related, that would even persuade a reader to think, you might be right?
Sorry, but I'm not one of your fellow gullible FOXY Muse loyalists!
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04-16-24 23:00 #14349
Posts: 1947Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
"Nearly 10 million migrants attempted to enter the US between October 2019 and January 2024, with record-high border apprehensions in 2022. ".
https://usafacts.org/articles/what-c...d-immigration/
Of course, "attempting to enter" doesn't equate to entering, but why focus on the details when you have a cool round number!
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04-16-24 21:53 #14348
Posts: 5427They got you again.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Oh, you didn't know there were any? You just thought that idiot YouTube video included all of the negative comments the gathered "undecideds" had to offer and it was only about Biden?
LOL.
You have been blissfully easily bamboozled again, Culty McGullible.
First of all, if after 4 years of observing Trump and experiencing his Pandemic, massive jobs destruction, his 2 Bear Market declines in just 4 years, rising crime rates and USA at War for the entirety of his so-called presidency vs 3 1/2 years of Biden's historic job gains and wage increases, Stock Market gains, plunging crime rates and NO USA at War anywhere on the planet, any self-proclaimed "undecideds" at this point are by definition extremely low low low low information voters. Possibly comatose most of the time.
And speaking of the stock market, where is that one numbskull hearing Joe Bidrn "only talking about the stock market all the time"? LOL. He must be as easily bamboozled by creatively and tightly edited YouTube Winger videos as you are.
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04-16-24 21:07 #14347
Posts: 5427I already mentioned Predictlt specifically
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
But the point of my posts wasn't exactly how each candidate is faring in that regard at the moment but to show how demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP is in the way they manipulate, delay, rush in and / or otherwise time the inclusion of certain polls in order to keep their beloved Trump and other Repubs either ahead in those Consensus polls or at least even with Biden and the Dems.
Well, I did mention in passing that remarkable skyrocketing upward trajectory in the Odds for Biden and fish hook reversal of fortune decline in it for Trump since Joe Biden's terrific State of the Union Address pretty much destroyed the main Trump / GOP campaign spin against him for 3 solid years.
But now that you have gone directly to the Predictlt site for their Odds, I will now mention that I saw that 53 number for Biden on their site several days ago. Yet RCP has not posted that number for Predictlt on their site but is instead still hanging in there with more like 47-49, keeping it closer overall between Biden and everyone else in that Consensus than Predictlt has it as long as humanly possible. Apparently.
LOL. I see idiot Trump-lover Repub Gov. Sununu is out there proclaiming that "51% of Americans" agree with him that they would rather have Trump in the WH than Biden. Liar. Even demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP can't manipulate the poll consensus enough to create a 51% lead for Trump. Not in a head-to-head or a 5-way hypothetical. Biden gets as many 50% results in the RCP polls as Trump does and nowhere in any Consensus is Trump higher than 45.6%.
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04-16-24 14:35 #14346
Posts: 3205Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Does that make you feel better Thailand Tooms? Maybe you need it after that MSNBC post showing how badly Biden's policies hurt middle America.
Thing is there have been articles on how the predict it futures markets are being manipulated. So I was like, what are the odds of an actual site that will let you bet on the election?
https://www.vegasinsider.com/odds/us...tial-election/#text=Trump%20 remains%20 the%20 slight%20 favorite, to%20 repeat%20 as%20 USA %20 President.
And this is from April 12:
Trump remains the slight favorite at 6/5 (Bet $100 to win $120) to capture the 2024 USA Presidential Election.
Joe Biden is sitting at 5/4 odds (Bet $100 to win $125) to repeat as USA President.
Oddsmakers are currently offering plus-money returns on both candidates for the upcoming face-off between Trump and Biden.
Trump remains the slight favorite at 6/5 (Bet $100 to win $120) to capture the 2024 USA Presidential Election.
Joe Biden is sitting at 5/4 odds (Bet $100 to win $125) to repeat as USA President.
So what percent of your government checks are you going to bet on Biden?
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04-16-24 14:22 #14345
Posts: 3205Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
With Biden, if you are wealthy and own stocks and real estate, you have done well. If you rent and are paycheck to paycheck, you have gotten killed under Biden.
If you go to this video and watch from the 1:57 mark for one minute, you will see the most definitive evidence of why Biden will lose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_q9O7zJEw8.
This is not Fox News. This is MSNBC polling undecided voters in swing states and every fucking one of them says Trump's policies helped them and Biden's economic policies hurt them.
I kind of wonder what kind of bullshit you will say to make yourselves feel better after you watch this. Maybe you will take the Thailand Tooms route and blame the editing. When that fucker Fauci said you could get AIDS just living with a child with AIDS, he was not shown to be the fucking idiot that he was. No, per the loon Thailand Tooms, it was just editing.
As for where the number 20 million comes from, that is just a guesstimate of how many illegals are here. No one really knows. The guessestimate from Border Patrol is that 10 million illegals have entered under Biden. So while you play this dumb game of Gotcha Elvis, it is 10 million not 20 million, you are oblivious to the plights of the cities taking in the illegals and people paying rent.
All you give a shit about is your government check.
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04-16-24 06:31 #14344
Posts: 5427Deadbeat Fake Billionaire Trump Knows All The Best People
Unfortunately for Deadbeat Fake Billionaire Sleepy Donald Trump, the best people he knows with any serious money to loan also know him too well to loan him the tiny percentage of money from any real billionaire's net worth to keep his ass out of jail.
A possible Trump bond rejection? NY AG questions if insurance group is good for the money.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n/73216105007/
LOL. This is how much a real billionaire can part with any and every year for the greater good of America:
Mark Cuban says he's proud to pay $288 million in taxes this year, unlike a certain former president.
https://www.businessinsider.com/mark...esident-2024-4
"I pay what I owe. Tomorrow I will wire transfer to the IRS $288,000,000.00," Cuban wrote on X on Sunday.
"This country has done so much for me, I'm proud to pay my taxes every single year. Tag a former president that you know doesn't," Cuban added, in what appeared to be a jab at former President Donald Trump.
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04-16-24 04:33 #14343
Posts: 686Commercial Real Estate
Meanwhile, commercial real estate, shopping malls, etc, etc continues to tank. Will the genius's on this thread care to blame the poor, the wretched leaving their homes in the south for safety and economic stability in El Norte? Did they sit on the border with a clicker, counting out the, what was it, 20,000,000 now. Have they studied the history of United Fruit Company mucking about? The numerous coups, South American soldiers trained by US military in "counter insurgency" . The weapons that left Mina, Arkansas bound for the Contras in Honduras when Slick Willy Clinton was the governor? Read "Blowback" by Chalmers Johnson. The "chaos" in Haiti is a direct result of US oligarchs calling the shots. This quote from Jim Jatmusch's "Down by Law" "The US is a melting pot. The scum rises to the top".
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04-16-24 02:57 #14342
Posts: 1103American Billionaire Greed...
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
BTW, what publication/source did you get your "bring in 20 million immigrants" number from? Or did you just pull, this data outta your ass, from the 1920's?
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
US billionaires have doubled their wealth since 2017 Trump tax overhaul
https://www.salon.com/2024/04/11/us-...2017-overhaul/