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03-22-17 23:51 #983
Posts: 215Originally Posted by Member#2041 [View Original Post]
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03-22-17 22:13 #982
Posts: 1600Originally Posted by Coalburner69 [View Original Post]
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03-22-17 15:28 #981
Posts: 3056Originally Posted by Coalburner69 [View Original Post]
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03-22-17 13:46 #980
Posts: 4050Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
GE.
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03-22-17 06:53 #979
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
"9) Disrespect for Cops.
10) Failed economic stimulus plan.
11) Constant disregard for the Constitution and tyrannical rule. "
LOL.
How about a near record 75 straight months of positive jobs creation vs a net LOSS of 600,000+ private sector jobs by the end of the previous guy's grueling 8 year long disastrously failed presidency? How about regularly seeing 200,000+ jobs created per month vs LOSING 800,000 jobs per month? How about an unemployment rate steadily declining to 5% and below instead of skyrocketing toward double digits? How about a total reversal of the stock market plunge into new highs, tripling the market as measured by the S&P 500 Index? How about my property values totally recovering from the Bush / GOP crash and climbing to new highs?
All of which began to occur a couple of weeks after that supposed "10) Failed economic stimulus plan" was signed into legislation (with almost NO Repub votes, BTW) and put to work in the system. And those critical positive economic metrics never looked back or went into reverse direction ever since. Oh, and that was done at the end of February 2009. Please remind me again what Trump and his fellow Repubs in Congress have done to trigger ANYTHING as remarkably positive for the USA Economy now that they've had a month LONGER in control of the levers than Obama and the Dems had by February 2009.
But I hear Trump's golf game is coming along better than ever!
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03-22-17 06:45 #978
Posts: 1600Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
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03-22-17 00:08 #977
Posts: 215Putting lip stick on a pig
Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
The only thing they got right was that Clinton was a horrific candidate, but then again she ran on Obama's platform and record.
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03-21-17 22:36 #976
Posts: 3056Originally Posted by Member#2041 [View Original Post]
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03-21-17 22:33 #975
Posts: 3056Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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03-21-17 17:47 #974
Posts: 5454Coalburner69 and D Cups, hate to break it to you but you can cherry pick and list all the piddly negatives you can dig up about the current economy and national security situation while ignoring all the overwhelming positives relative to what was occuring when Obama first took office more than offsetting them but there is one giant bull elephant sized bit of empirical evidence in the room arguing mightily against your contentions; even the Republicans whose expert lies you apparently swallowed whole and worked to help them get elected don't believe a word of their own lies about "how bad things are now!"
LOL. Has any incoming president enjoyed the luxury of doing virtually NOTHING significant since election night and now more than four months later more than Donald Trump? The guy is on track to soak up more three day weekends on the golf course beginning sometime Thursday afternoon in just his first six months in office at taxpayers' expense than Obama took in eight years. He is so lazy he hasn't even managed to work up an Executive Action that would stand up to the most cursory reading of it vs the USA Constitution. He somehow got through one 80 minute address to Congress reading a telepromptered speech that seems to have been unearthed from the Harding administration, so musty, moldy and tired were the classic failed Republican memes included. Now he seems determined to dither around week after week rehashing the good ol' days of his weird presidential campaign, congratulating himself for how well he bamboozled his supporters into thinking he really was going to accomplish something on their behalf and soon.
But as lackadaisical, lazy, dithering and distracted as Trump is staying up all night shouting at cable news shows on tv, tweeting nonsense and eating Big Mac Combos, the Republican leadership in Congress is luxuriating even MORE in classic Republican "doing nothingness".
I thought the economy was "in crisis!" and national security was in so much trouble Trump HAD to get that idiotic counterproductive "Muslim Ban" Executive Action in place ASAP. Or, better yet, after a week or two of basking in the glory of that aforementioned telepromptered 80 minutes of relative lucidity except for the Harding Administration list of priorities.
Apparently not. And there is a very compelling reason Trump and his fellow Republicans in Congress have not really DONE anything in the months since they have been in charge; they know things are going VERY WELL right now. The are happy to coast along in the wake of what Obama wrought through blood, sweat and tears over the past 8 years and, so typical of Republicans, "take credit" for the still ongoing record number of consecutive months of positive job growth, very low unemployment rate, rising property values, decent quarterly profits and earnings reports and the climbing stock market that accompanies all of that.
Both Trump and the Repubs in Congress know very well their "doing something" can only screw up what is actually moving along quite nicely and has been doing so for a few years now. So they aren't really doing anything. Oh, except grousing about how terrible things are while they propose and do nothing to supposedly "fix" it. LOL.
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03-21-17 17:39 #973
Posts: 1600Originally Posted by Coalburner69 [View Original Post]
In fact, under Obama, the economic catastrophe he inherited from Bush was reversed. The Stock Market tripled in valuation. The housing collapse was reversed. And no terrorist attacks from foreigners succeeded in the USA (a handful WERE carried out by AMERICANS against American citizens) - but this was still a vast improvement over the record his predecessor.
Most people who had any skills and education did quite well economically under the Obama Presidency. 300,000 manufacturing jobs were lost, but over 10 MILLION service jobs were gained. The lower labor participation rate is due to over tens of millions of Americans aging out of the work force as the baby boom began to reach retirement age.
Over 15 Million Americans gained access to health insurance for the first time under Obama. Trump plans on negating that, plus screwing another 9 Million more out of the ability to get insurance.
My personal Net Worth more than doubled during the Obama Presidency from when he took office in January of 2009. That's actually fairly typical. If you are an American and yours didn't, it's more a reflection on your own lack of talents than on the Obama economic recovery.
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03-21-17 15:26 #972
Posts: 215Originally Posted by Pompetus [View Original Post]
BTW, what's this 'robust economy' that you're talking about? Where is your data to support this? What do you have to counter just a few of these stats:
-National debt at $20 trillion. Doubled in the last 8 years.
-Not a single year of hitting a 3% GDP in the last 8 years.
-Lowest labor participation rates since the 1970's, with 95 million Americans out of the labor force making the current unemployment rate a fantasy.
-Lowest home ownership rate in 51 years despite mortgage rates artificially kept at record lows.
-Over 11 million more Americans on food stamps.
-More than 43 million Americans now live in poverty.
-$873 billion in regulation costs. Number of regulations that been finalized under President Obama almost 3,000.
-300,000 manufacturing jobs lost.
-Global trade deficit of over $732 billion just last year.
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03-21-17 15:26 #971
Posts: 3056All talk and no action.
Originally Posted by Member#2041 [View Original Post]
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03-21-17 15:14 #970
Posts: 3056Hi Golfinho, arguing with Pomp, 2041, GE, David Loser, Kabul and Backassward Smoothy is like teaching a group of morons integral calculus. They'll never get it. They don't have the brain capacity. They're all pissed off because they lost the election and don't have a fucking clue as to why. You might as well teach pigs to fly and sing in harmony while shitting chocolate-covered caviar.
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
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03-21-17 14:52 #969
Posts: 30562041, how do you feel about Coalburner's recent posts about Obummer's sordid legacy? Can you refute any of these you braindead bonehead?
Originally Posted by Member#2041 [View Original Post]