American Politics

[BigBuddy69]

In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.

And in case you missed it it has been the opposite during something like 8 months. (like two times less deaths during a loooooong period).

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc

And guess what they did a few months ago? They eased the restrictions! And guess what they're doing right now? They're toughening the restrictions!

[ShooBree]

Actually he just said the total opposite but you have serious issues with reading and understanding.

You're the moron who doesn't understand sarcasm. Unlike you I can read between the lines.

[ShooBree]

Deaths per capita in Sweden currently: 0,6; Belgium: 0,6; France, Netherlands, Denmark, 0,5; Spain: 0,3; Finland, Iceland and Norway: less than 0,1.

More lies or you got your numbers wrong?

Your numbers are incorrect and make no sense.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Tavares]

There are currently 7 times more COVID-19 related deaths in Spain than in Portugal. That must seem inexplicable to you given that they are neighbors and Spain's had even stricter restrictions than Portugal.

In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.

In the last 7 days there were on average 69,9 deaths in Portugal and 144,7 in Spain...7 times more? stricter measures in Spain? no, the same.

Deaths per 100.000 in Sweden currently: 0,6; Belgium: 0,6; France, Netherlands, Denmark, 0,5; Spain: 0,3; Finland, Iceland and Norway: less than 0,1.

So you see, Sweden is the worst amongst nordic countries...probably because of that stupid idea of herd immunity.

More Trump style lies or you got your numbers wrong?

[ScatManDoo]

He lost big! Only idiots dispute that fact.

Don't forget Shoobee the stupid Swede.

When he's asked to state whether Trump won or lost.

He shrinks and melts into a corner, unable to process and answer the question. Like the question is his Kryptonite that's killing him.

Hahahahaha.

[HorseTrader]

... it would go away on its own without a vaccine and would surely be gone on its own by April or by the Fall at the latest.

Probably true statements. The only question is what year.

[PVMonger]

{SNIP} In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.

I guess Denmark (237 deaths / million), Germany (416), Ireland (454), Norway (80) Portugal (692) have left Europe since all have fewer deaths per capita than Sweden.

[ShooBree]

What else would you expect from someone supporting trump and Bolsonaro?

Everyone with a functioning brain supports Trump and Bolsonaro. You're a braindead libtard.

[BigBuddy69]

So in other words you admit that you're cherry-picking, great!

Actually he just said the total opposite but you have serious issues with reading and understanding.

[EihTooms]

What you like to tell us? Is it a Hoax like yor crazy golfplayer told. Or is it good, that the crazy President pushed them to invent a vaccine against a hoax?

No current president of the USA pushed anybody to invent a vaccine. The inventors all around the world were already swinging into action to invent one as early as February/March of last year when the only current president of the USA that I know about was still on the world stage trying to convince everyone nobody should bother doing anything about it (although he obviously knew better) since the risk was only a politically motivated "HOAX!", mocking mitigation efforts, that there would be near zero cases any minute now, it would go away on its own without a vaccine and would surely be gone on its own by April or by the Fall at the latest.

[BigBuddy69]

ShooBree the stupid Swede makes these great debate points.

This is his level of debate.

Like we are talking to a nine year old.

SMH.

What else would you expect from someone supporting trump and Bolsonaro?

[Beno69]

.... And once we get the King of Chaos on his way to the golf course, the penitentiary or wherever and as far away from the levers of power as possible there will eventually be enough jabs of the vaccine in enough arms to put the lockdowns, curfews and whack-a-mole business closures behind us.

.... if we'd only listened to the "HOAX!" crowd 10 months ago.

What you like to tell us? Is it a Hoax like yor crazy golfplayer told. Or is it good, that the crazy President pushed them to invent a vaccine against a hoax?

[Mogwai]

Sitting in the USA right now, this past month I got to spend time with nearly 100 friends. Nearly 75% have tested positive for Covid and only 1 was admitted to the hospital early on for treatment. Most, including me, didn't know we had Covid until we took one of the tests. Not sure what the 10, 20, 30% you are talking about but nearly all of the people I know that had it are against lockdowns and see no need as the "get it and you will die" rhetoric is on the nightly news is proving false.

75% positive is an alarming number, so I think you've made that up and are exaggerating just to prove your point.
But let's assume it's true. How many other people were infected by this 75%? And how many of these other people ended up in hospital with serious symptoms? And how many of them died? Most likely quite a lot.
Even with the lockdowns hospitals all over the world are overwhelmed by Covid19 patients. Without lockdowns and other methods, like keeping distance and face masks, the situation would be even more dramatic. For people as well as the economy.

[EihTooms]

Or maybe part of the problem might be that millions are still blindly believing whatever the mainstream media is feeding them with or the propaganda of their own government.

Even though we are on a forum which purpose is mainly to talk about fun times, the huge majority of people that consider lockdowns being counterproductive is because these lockdowns are destroying millions of people lives.

And I have a hard time picturing the better future that you're talking about when the only thing I'm seeing is lockdowns being enforced over and over.

This is the center of the problem. You're mostly thinking of people directly suffering or dying of covid while others aknowledge that a much bigger proportion of people are suffering economically and psychologically from these lockdowns.

It seems to me the "elites" of which you speak would be the people who publicly proclaimed it to be a "HOAX!", that "there is 1 case out of China, only 15 cases here and that will be near zero soon", that "we've got this under control", "this virus harms almost nobody", "it will go away without a vaccine", "there will be no coronavirus in the Fall", etc in order to argue against any mitigation measures, lockdowns and curfews to influence you to ignore the warnings and continue to buy stuff 24/7 all while they are on tape privately telling authors it is very serious, "bad", many times worse than the flu, highly infectious even for young people and so on.

What exactly is the evil motive for the mitigation measures, lockdown and curfew crowd again?

Despite the persistent effort from the earliest days by the ones I quoted above to discourage any effort to invent a vaccine for this virus or to even consider one might be necessary, a bunch of scientists did invent some vaccines anyway. And once we get the King of Chaos on his way to the golf course, the penitentiary or wherever and as far away from the levers of power as possible there will eventually be enough jabs of the vaccine in enough arms to put the lockdowns, curfews and whack-a-mole business closures behind us.

And, as bad as lockdowns are, that end will come with many more people still alive to get jabs (and buy stuff 24/7!) than would have been the case if we'd only listened to the "HOAX!" crowd 10 months ago.

[ShooBree]

ShooBree the stupid Swede makes these great debate points.

This is his level of debate.

Like we are talking to a nine year old.

SMH.

You're making me laugh. Your lack of self-awareness is laughable. You're a pathetic joke.