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  1. #1989
    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus  [View Original Post]
    Shoo, call me a Reagan Republican. Don't scapegoat "Democrats". All Americans in power, Democrat and Republican alike, must deal with nihilism, hooliganism and class warfare. Mrs. Clinton polemicized (deplorables) but she conceded on election night. Mr Trump certainly made insult a standard tool of his communication but he did not concede even weeks after the fact. Compare that with Al Gore in 2000, who lost Florida and the presidency by 500 votes. We expect more of any politician of any color. Trump alone is responsible for his words on Jan 6th and prior, no matter how much he was harrassed.

    In hindsight, most Americans view their presidents positively. They are woven in their lives. It makes perfect sense. I diagree with what you claim to be an "undoubtable" truth. Trump's legacy will be the infamy of Jan 6th, 2021, sadly. Americans are unforgiving in this respect. Nixon had his merits, but his reputation never recovered. Lincoln is a saint for somehow weaving the country back together. Wilson won a war, as did Truman. Reagan and George W. Bush were very good persons and loving spouses. Reagan finished communism off. George Bush oversaw unification of Germany. Clinton was handsome and balanced the budget with Newt. George W. Invested in Africa and in American children, also managed 911 admirably. Obama will forever be etched in the history books as the first man of color in that post, no matter what else you and I agree or disagree on. As for Trump, the scenes of Jan 6th 2021 will dominate. I hope his clarity on Israel and his dedication to the rue of law at the Southern border will prevail. But they are peanuts compared to his morbid stubbornness, his inability to recognize who he is, his bullying and his perpetual fact twisting which led this nadir of American political culture.
    I disagree completely. Trump did nothing wrong and he can't be blamed for the actions of other free women and men.

    Things do not happen in a vacuum. The Democrats didn't accept the result of the election in 2016. They repeatedly attacked the legitimacy of the president and the election. They basically claimed that the election was stolen by Russia and Trump wasn't the legitimate president.

    Trump did what the Democrats had done against him. I support him to 100 percent.

    Also, you don't think that all the violence and disorder supported by the liberals and carried out by BLM / antifa had any effect on the far right?

    The liberals turned the heat on, first by attacking the election in 2016 and then by attacking American cities in 2019.

    I've said it before and I will say it again, the liberals are turning USA into a third world country.

  2. #1988
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Really? Democrats did that? There isn't a single shred of evidence for that except in Hannity's head.
    I understand that you as a leftist wants to ignore the obvious. The liberal politicians are egging them on by repeating their narrative. Just look at the Democrats; Camel Harris basically accused Biden of being a racist and AOC did the same against the lizard woman in the senate.

    Please tell me, is the Democratic Party:

    A. Full of racists.

    Or.

    B. Social justice warriors playing the race card against their own colleagues?

  3. #1987
    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    Funny, I hear him always described as a moderate democrat by people who are professionally employed as political analysts.

    Not amateur blind fools.
    Oh really, did you hear that on CNN? LMFAO!

    Looking at what Biden is saying and what people he's nominating I think it's rather clear that Biden is by no means a moderate. He's a left-wing extremist who would be consider too extreme by most European countries.

  4. #1986

    We expect more from elected officials. We expect more from a presidennt

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Donald Trump is undoubtedly the best American president since the 80's.

    The Democrats created this situation by their unprecedented witch-hunt against Trump and their support of extremists initiating insurrections and riots all over America. The Democrats needs to apologize for how they attacked US democracy by calling Donald Trump "illegitimate" and encouraged terrorists to attack one American city after the other. Cops were killed because of the liberal media and liberal politicians.

    The leftist made USA look like a third world country.
    Shoo, call me a Reagan Republican. Don't scapegoat "Democrats". All Americans in power, Democrat and Republican alike, must deal with nihilism, hooliganism and class warfare. Mrs. Clinton polemicized (deplorables) but she conceded on election night. Mr Trump certainly made insult a standard tool of his communication but he did not concede even weeks after the fact. Compare that with Al Gore in 2000, who lost Florida and the presidency by 500 votes. We expect more of any politician of any color. Trump alone is responsible for his words on Jan 6th and prior, no matter how much he was harrassed.

    In hindsight, most Americans view their presidents positively. They are woven in their lives. It makes perfect sense. I diagree with what you claim to be an "undoubtable" truth. Trump's legacy will be the infamy of Jan 6th, 2021, sadly. Americans are unforgiving in this respect. Nixon had his merits, but his reputation never recovered. Lincoln is a saint for somehow weaving the country back together. Wilson won a war, as did Truman. Reagan and George W. Bush were very good persons and loving spouses. Reagan finished communism off. George Bush oversaw unification of Germany. Clinton was handsome and balanced the budget with Newt. George W. Invested in Africa and in American children, also managed 911 admirably. Obama will forever be etched in the history books as the first man of color in that post, no matter what else you and I agree or disagree on. As for Trump, the scenes of Jan 6th 2021 will dominate. I hope his clarity on Israel and his dedication to the rue of law at the Southern border will prevail. But they are peanuts compared to his morbid stubbornness, his inability to recognize who he is, his bullying and his perpetual fact twisting which led this nadir of American political culture.

  5. #1985

    Difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    No schooling at all should be necessary to figure out if Trump just sat on his big rump and watched his mob invade and vandalize the Capitol Building on TV rather than spring into action to call out the troops to stop them the first minute he saw that happening then they were obviously doing exactly what he intended his lies and rant to incite them to do.

    Really? Something so obvious never once occurred to you in the weeks since the insurrection until I mentioned it here?
    What is really obvious is you only condone violence from the right. Biden is doing nothing to stop the left BLM and Antifa from destroying property, looting and physical violence. Does this mean Biden should be impeached because he is allowing it? Are you liberals proud of yourself for your beliefs that defunding the police, open borders, abolish ice, transgender men or women in children bathrooms. Is this really the values of Americans who care for their country? Who care to keep children safe? Do you really believe that we should allow millions of people to come into our country and take jobs away from our citizens? Our kids? Our friends? Why do you hate the American way of life? Do you really think your parents would be proud of your thinking? Do you really believe that your parents and grandparents were all racist and their history should be abolished? Why are you still living in such a horrible country that needs all these changes. Do you really believe that this will make America better? If you are proud of this it pretty much sums up who you are.

  6. #1984

    The D. C. Occupation will continue until democracy is saved (from Americans)

    Daniel Greenfield January 24,2021.

    On a cold, windy day with a small group of spectators watching from behind barbed wire, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. Swore another in a long series of false oaths before his motorcade passed between a long row of soldiers with their backs to him looking outward for threats.

    No inauguration has been this empty in a century of American history. And at no inauguration have the spectators been outnumbered by a raw display of armed force. American presidents have been inaugurated in wartime and during actual national emergencies with a better turnout.

    Through world wars and wars on terror, Washington the. See. Has remained a national capital where the hundreds of millions of taxpayers who labor to pay for its grand edifices, free museums, and lavish lifestyles could briefly come to enjoy a little of the life lived by the ruling class in the Imperial City. Now the ruling class has made it clear that it doesn't want peasants entering the. See.

    Even as Biden's team prepped the executive orders that would end the national emergency at the border and shut down construction of the wall, new walls topped by razor wire were rising across the imperial city. The new Fortress of Government sealed off two miles of the National Mall and parts of downtown the. See. And filled it with more soldiers than are deployed in Iraq.

    The Secret Service designated green and red zones. Some 25,000 National Guard members were dispatched from Vermont, Maine, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Arkansas, Missouri, South Carolina, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Colorado to prepare for a fake invasion that never came. But the armored vehicles and heavy weaponry did come. President Trump had wanted a military parade that would show America's strength to the world. Biden held his own military parade to intimidate his fellow Americans.

    Democrats had deployed more soldiers in the. See. Than they had in Iraq and Afghanistan while authorizing them to use lethal force and investigating their politics before the deployment. The radical leftists who had resisted using the military to fight terrorism or secure the border from invasion were eager to deploy the military against the people of the United States of America. . . ".

    Full article: http://www.danielgreenfield.org/2021...nue-until.html.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beno69  [View Original Post]
    Why not compare with Obama inauguration? Insted the half empty Trump. Or was it the Kukuksclan white dress? - that make it look so empty during Trumps inauguration?

  7. #1983
    Quote Originally Posted by Mdemde  [View Original Post]
    An opinion piece by Douglas Murray, published today in the Daily Mail (link below).

    In what way is this policy a good idea? Is this not open to abuse? Would you Liberals be happy to let your daughter or your granddaughter or your girlfriend share a restroom / changing room with a male?

    "During his first hours in office, Biden signed an executive order calling on all federal agencies to ensure that people who identify as the opposite sex should be free to use whatever changing room or 'restroom' they wish to. And that school sports must sign up to 'combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity'.

    There is something of the late Roman empire about this, the arrogance of a ruling elite in terminal decline. The world's most powerful man gets into office at a time of unprecedented crisis and one of his first priorities is to ensure that men who identify as women should be allowed to use female changing rooms and pulverise any woman he comes across in competitive sports. All in the name of equality, obviously. ".

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...-end-well.html
    What about women who identify as men?

  8. #1982
    Quote Originally Posted by Beno69  [View Original Post]
    Why not compare with Obama inauguration? Insted the half empty Trump. Or was it the Kukuksclan white dress? - that make it look so empty during Trumps inauguration?
    It was the large, empty lawn areas that made the Mall look so empty during TrumpShit's inauguration.

    And T. Shit look so pitifully & desperate when he tried lying about his crowd size when compared to Obama.

    Trump was always afraid of being objectively "Measured Up" to Barack Obama.

    Melania knows what I mean.

  9. #1981
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Donald Trump is undoubtedly the best American president since the 80's.

    The Democrats created this situation by their unprecedented witch-hunt against Trump and their support of extremists initiating insurrections and riots all over America. The Democrats needs to apologize for how they attacked US democracy by calling Donald Trump "illegitimate" and encouraged terrorists to attack one American city after the other. Cops were killed because of the liberal media and liberal politicians.

    The leftist made USA look like a third world country.
    Really? Democrats did that? There isn't a single shred of evidence for that except in Hannity's head.

  10. #1980

    All in the name of equality, obviously

    An opinion piece by Douglas Murray, published today in the Daily Mail (link below).

    In what way is this policy a good idea? Is this not open to abuse? Would you Liberals be happy to let your daughter or your granddaughter or your girlfriend share a restroom / changing room with a male?

    "During his first hours in office, Biden signed an executive order calling on all federal agencies to ensure that people who identify as the opposite sex should be free to use whatever changing room or 'restroom' they wish to. And that school sports must sign up to 'combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity'.

    There is something of the late Roman empire about this, the arrogance of a ruling elite in terminal decline. The world's most powerful man gets into office at a time of unprecedented crisis and one of his first priorities is to ensure that men who identify as women should be allowed to use female changing rooms and pulverise any woman he comes across in competitive sports. All in the name of equality, obviously. ".

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...-end-well.html

  11. #1979
    Quote Originally Posted by Travv  [View Original Post]

    Joseph Biden's "inauguration" is empty.
    Compare the images from 2017 (Trump's inauguration) and 2021 (Biden's) for yourself. . . "
    Why not compare with Obama inauguration? Insted the half empty Trump. Or was it the Kukuksclan white dress? - that make it look so empty during Trumps inauguration?

  12. #1978
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Did you think of this on your own or did you have to go to a liberal school to think this stupid crap up?
    No schooling at all should be necessary to figure out if Trump just sat on his big rump and watched his mob invade and vandalize the Capitol Building on TV rather than spring into action to call out the troops to stop them the first minute he saw that happening then they were obviously doing exactly what he intended his lies and rant to incite them to do.

    Really? Something so obvious never once occurred to you in the weeks since the insurrection until I mentioned it here?

  13. #1977
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    In a way it's actually true, he wants to unite the nation but without having to compromise on a single issue.
    As opposed to Trump, who would just get outmaneuvered by politicians in both parties that could easily wipe the floor with Trump when he would stubbornly refuse to compromise, like a confused, frustrated & powerless child. Easy to outmaneuver the outmatched and unaware.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Joe Biden is the most radical left wing president USA ever seen.
    Funny, I hear him always described as a moderate democrat by people who are professionally employed as political analysts.

    Not amateur blind fools.

  14. #1976
    Quote Originally Posted by Mdemde  [View Original Post]
    My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
    The way you ask this question, it's as if you are under the impression that impeachment hearings are criminal trials in which evidence must be provided to prove guilt "without a doubt."

    The reality, however, is that while impeachment is a legal hearing, it is not necessarily a criminal trial. The standard of proof is much lower than, say, a murder trial, despite multiple numerous defense teams' attempts to try a case otherwise.

    As such, if a reasonable case can be made that, even if Trump did not directly instruct the crowd to cause violence, his actions leading up to the 6th of January (knowingly promoting unwarranted claims, coercing election "officials to find votes," the inflammatory speeches and tweets, etc) it would be reasonable for the Senate to find him responsible for "incitement of insurrection" even without direct verbiage to promote violence. In this case, it is a case of personal conduct, one that betrays "public trust. " Even if his words cannot be proven to be direct incitement, his cumulative actions from the election to the riots are being evaluated in their totality, not just the speech on the 6th of January.

    (I am no constitutional legal expert but I can read Wikipedia and the sources that it references.)

  15. #1975
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    I would say that you're in bad faith.

    I understand what this is about, you liberals supports political violence and terrorism as long as it's carried out by your own people. What you haven't realized is that conservatives do not condone political violence no matter of the perpetrators political affiliation.
    So all those militias Trump so loves just like to play with those guns and go marching with them but of course they would never use them.

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