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  1. #3868
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    Be truthful who do you think had more impact on trump becoming president, Putin or Hillary Clinton?
    I believe Putin was amazingly effective for the relatively small time and effort the Russians put in. I think we are inherently a very misogynistic country, maybe even more than we are racist. The Russians certainly are masters of disinformation and have learned from more than a century of study how to manipulate our simple minds. I suspect the extent of their (ongoing) disinformation campaign, as well as the kompromat that Putin has over Trump, are not yet fully known.

  2. #3867
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Without Putin bombarding the receptive media with anti-Clinton horseshit and (R)Comey pulling that last minute unprecedented pro-Repub/Trump stunt while working mightily to keep the REAL invesigation of Team Trump's extraordinary connection and collusion with the Russian government under wraps the direction of the polls leading up to that last minute (R)Comey stunt would not have gone slightly south and at least the necessary 1% or so Trump votes in each of just 2 states (Florida and Michigan) would have gone to Clinton instead. And that means we would not have had 2 Bear Market Crashes, millions upon millions of USA jobs destroyed, 620,000+ American deaths and our ability to travel and monger easily anywhere in the world perhaps hobbled forever.

    No way to know if Putin's efforts or (R)Comey's efforts alone were enough to shift those 2 states' votes by about 1% or not. But both of their efforts combined sure did the trick by a hair.
    Hillary Clinton needed no help to self-destruct her campaign. She did it all by herself, with an assist from the mainstream US media which took short term profits by filling American TV screens with Trumpnews throughout the election cycle. The democrats were so out of touch that they nominated perhaps the most divisive figure in the country to head their ticket. Just about anybody would have defeated that tone deaf harridan.

  3. #3866

    By far, Putin and (R)Comey

    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    Be truthful who do you think had more impact on trump becoming president, Putin or Hillary Clinton?
    Without Putin bombarding the always receptive anti-Dem media with anti-Clinton horseshit and (R)Comey pulling that last minute unprecedented pro-Repub/Trump stunt while working mightily to keep the REAL invesigation of Team Trump's extraordinary connection and collusion with the Russian government under wraps, the direction of the polls leading up to that last minute (R)Comey stunt would not have gone slightly south for Clinton at the worst possible moment and at least the necessary 1% or so Trump votes in each of just 2 states (Florida and Michigan) would have gone to Clinton instead.

    And that means we would not have had those 2 Bear Market Crashes, millions upon millions of USA jobs destroyed, 620,000+ American deaths, Trillion$ required to be added to the Trump deficits, a violent anti-America Insurrection, the more serious than ever new ongoing Repub threat to American democracy and our ability to travel and monger easily anywhere in the world hobbled perhaps for the rest of our mongering lifetimes, even for those in their 40s.

    No way to know if Putin's efforts or (R)Comey's efforts alone were enough to shift those 2 states' votes by about 1% or not. But both of their efforts combined sure did the trick, by a hair.

    Putin, the Repubs and the always receptive anti-Dem media would have come up with whatever horseshit they needed to keep it as close as it was no matter who the Dem nominee was. There was nothing about Clinton that made her significantly more vulnerable than another Dem nominee in that regard.

  4. #3865
    Be truthful who do you think had more impact on trump becoming president, Putin or Hillary Clinton?

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Kremlin papers appear to show Putins plot to put Trump in White House.
    Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy.

    Thu 15 Jul 2021
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...in-white-house

  5. #3864
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    5,000,000 voters were criminals.
    Tightening up the voting rules would get rid of those inappropriate republican votes.

  6. #3863

    Kremlin Mission Accomplished:

    Kremlin papers appear to show Putins plot to put Trump in White House.
    Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy.

    Thu 15 Jul 2021
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...in-white-house
    ...They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscows strategic objectives, among them social turmoil in the US and a weakening of the American presidents negotiating position.

    The report No 32-04 \ vd is classified as secret. It says Trump is the most promising candidate from the Kremlins point of view. The word in Russian is "perspektivny."
    ...
    There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an impulsive, mentally' unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex.

    There is also apparent confirmation that the Kremlin possesses kompromat, or potentially compromising material, on the future president, collected the document says from Trumps earlier non-official visits to Russian Federation territory.
    ...
    "Moscow would gain most from a Republican victory, the paper states.This could lead to a social explosion that would in turn weaken the US president, it says. There were international benefits from a Trump win, it stresses. Putin would be able in clandestine fashion to dominate any US-Russia bilateral talks, to deconstruct the White Houses negotiating position, and to pursue bold foreign policy initiatives on Russias behalf, it says.

  7. #3862

    Votes

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Get over it. 81+ million people we were smart enough to vote for Biden while 74+ million were blind enough to vote for the orange buffoon. The orange buffoon lost.

    What was it you said in 2017? Something about fuck my feelings? Guess what? The shoe is now on the other foot.
    11,000,000 were illegals voting.

    1,000,000 voters were dead.

    5,000,000 voters were criminals.

    5,000,000 were fabricated voters.

    Biden probably got about 60,000,000 legal votes.

  8. #3861

    Fake news

    Quote Originally Posted by Beno69  [View Original Post]
    About the fascist Nazi Trump:

    https://tru.belu.ch/Trump%20Nazi.mp4
    Don't waste our time on this site with fake news. No one reads your links to fake liberal sites. Just confirms your lack of common sense.

  9. #3860

    "By all means... "

    Quote Originally Posted by Beno69  [View Original Post]
    About the fascist Nazi Trump:

    https://tru.belu.ch/Trump%20Nazi.mp4
    The creator of Godwins Law explains why some Nazi comparisons dont break his famous Internet rule
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...internet-rule/

    And in a link within that article:
    "By all means compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I"m with you."
    ...
    And Godwin himself took to Facebook to let everyone know that if it walks like a Nazi and talks like a Nazi, you better let people know what it really is.
    General Mark A. Milley, Trump's own Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the nations highest-ranking military officer, and the principal military advisor to the President, Secretary of Defense, and National Security Council, nailed it when he compared Trump's walk and talk (and of Trump's supporters) to that of Hitler.

  10. #3859

    I listened to him lie

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    You have shown, in numerous posts, that you don't have the foggiest idea what either communism or socialism is.

    Try educating yourself.
    I like millions of other Americans listened to him like about Georgia voting laws. Millions of people heard it. I guess you missed it or ignored it like the rest of the socialist buffoons.

  11. #3858

    Wrong. Again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Biden lies to all America on the Texas voting laws and only one Liberal media calls him out on it. Washington Post called him on his lies. All other media ignores Biden lies.

    Biden still not Communist Cuba for their treatment of their citizens. He is showing the world that he and the socialists that call them selves democrats still support Cuba and Venezuela communism.

    Biden shows the world that he wants to destroy America with socialism / communism.
    You have shown, in numerous posts, that you don't have the foggiest idea what either communism or socialism is.

    Try educating yourself.

  12. #3857
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Biden shows the world that he wants to destroy America with socialism / communism.
    About the fascist Nazi Trump:

    https://tru.belu.ch/Trump%20Nazi.mp4

  13. #3856

    Biden Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    The fact that trump lies a lot is well known.

    But here he is finally telling the truth. https://news.yahoo.com/trump-admits-...142943552.html.
    Biden lies to all America on the Texas voting laws and only one Liberal media calls him out on it. Washington Post called him on his lies. All other media ignores Biden lies.

    Biden still not Communist Cuba for their treatment of their citizens. He is showing the world that he and the socialists that call them selves democrats still support Cuba and Venezuela communism.

    Biden shows the world that he wants to destroy America with socialism / communism.

  14. #3855

    Peaceful?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]
    No matter how often you repeat your fake news talking points, everybody knows they are complete horseshit because everybody knows that an "insurrection" involves hundreds if not thousands of deaths, destroyed buildings, running battles between groups of heavily armed men.

    Not a bunch of unarmed people wandering through a building, a couple of broken windows, a single unarmed protester shot dead without cause, and the guy they are supposedly doing the so-called "insurrection" for telling them to go home.
    Evidently, this is what fascists call peaceful https://twitter.com/i/status/1414741805552308224..

    The rest of us call this violence.

  15. #3854
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    It wasn't the article it was CNN and MSNBC having him on their programs that said he was presidential material. He was their star because he hated Trump. That is the democratic criteria for running for president. If you hate Trump you are a democrat star and possible president of USA.
    Get over it. 81+ million people we were smart enough to vote for Biden while 74+ million were blind enough to vote for the orange buffoon. The orange buffoon lost.

    What was it you said in 2017? Something about fuck my feelings? Guess what? The shoe is now on the other foot.

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