American Politics

[PVMonger]

If they were "constantly getting conflicting information" why did they make these statements as facts? That merely proves my point.

If I were to protest outside his house then I would have to go to the USA, smthg I would never do, and I don't even think I am currently allowed to do. Does one still need a vax to enter??

So here's what you say you want from the experts:

Reporter: "So, Dr. , Fauci, how does this virus spread"?

Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. Maybe by touch, maybe somehow else. ".

Reporter: "Dr. Fauci, do masks work"?

Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. But it all depends on how the virus spreads and we don't know anything about that".

Reporter: "What about tRUMP's 'bright light' theory"?

Dr. Fauci: "If shoving a lightbulbs up your ass floats your boat, do it. But you might want to be careful trying to sit down".

Reporter: "What about alternative treratments. ".

Dr. Fauci: "Alternative treatments? Like massage? Like what? Who knows about alternative treatments. Maybe some work but maybe they don't. ".

[Cali Guy]

And exactly where in his post did the OP mention that Putin shut off electricity? Or even mention electricity at all?

I wrote: Several countries in Europe raised their electric prices to consumers by 25% last week because of renewable energy disasters. Europe has decided to restart a significant amount of their coal fired power plants to try to get back to reliable and cost effective electricity. And you replied Putin was to blame for Europe electric energy. Is he to blame for electricity to go up 25% or not?

[Canada]

You are drawing conclusions that are not supported by the data. The fact that the Dems have a better historic record than the Reps on the economy does not mean:

- that the modern Dems have good econimic polcies.

- that the modern Dems have a better record on any single policy (rather, they have a better record in aggregate).

- that they Dems do a good job (rather, that they have done a better job than the Reps).

- that the Dems have a good track record on non-economy policy, such as international policy.

2 examples to support my point -.

1. USA support of regime change / military actions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._regime_change

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...ary_operations

You can clearly see that it really doesn't matter who is in charge. The polciy is always the same. Lets make war to make us rich.

2. Income inequality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income..._United_States

"The USA Has the highest level of income inequality among its (post-) industrialized peers".

If the Dems were doing such a great job to help the people, then why do we see such an appalling disparity in income?

I could mention lack of public health care, lack of free education. If the Dems were doing a great job, where is it?

Obviously you will just blame the Reps, bcos that's all you do. I see it in every post you make. Its like the Dems are incapable of reversing out anything that the Reps did.

If the Dems were doing such a great job to help the vast majority of the people, they wouldn't be voted out every 8 years by a worse party. We would see staggeringly better economic indicators. Instead we see a slow down sprial of a falling giant, as both parties try to squeeze what's left out of the dying beast.

Past history is irrelevant. Current times show the dems failing the American people. Look at Biden and the current dems last 18 months. Current history shows dems totally inept compared to all administrations in last 40 years.

1. Crime and murders skyrocketing especially in dem run states.

2. Border security at worst level ever with millions of illegals just walking across the border.

3. Highest inflation in 40 years.

4. Natural gas prices up 400-500%.

5. Gas prices and oil prices up over 100%.

6. food prices up 26%.

7. War in Ukraine and possible war in Taiwan with world instability increasing daily.

8. Fentanyl coming across our open borders killing record number of Americans.

9. Cancel culture and wokeness extreme.

10. Disaster in Afghanistan leaving billions of dollars of weapons for the Taliban to use for terror.

11. Most divisive president in USA history.

12. Highest level of human trafficking especially minors across our open border.

13. Interest rates skyrocketing.

14. Retirees 401 K shrinking daily.

15. Recession approaching quickly.

The world is laughing at the USA. They love Biden. They love that fact that Biden is destroying the USA.

[MarquisdeSade1]

The world needs more bus drivers and cops like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TphCi4zH1sk

https://stormer-daily.rw/cops-releas...ut-by-bbg-cop/

For sure that ***** had it coming, but listen – they've all got it coming. The cops could go around decking bitches in their mouths and laying them out with assurance that they've got it coming. Because all women have a straight-up knock-out coming.

I'll tell you what – I love this video.

[ScatManDoo]

If they were "constantly getting conflicting information" why did they make these statements as facts? That merely proves my point.

If I were to protest outside his house then I would have to go to the USA, smthg I would never do, and I don't even think I am currently allowed to do. Does one still need a vax to enter??

You would need all your shots.

You've just proven to the board that there is no valid point for this last stand.

I (we all) saw scores of public statements made by the respected Dr, Fauci.

Like many scientists, he was constantly including in his statements weasel clauses like "to the best of our knowledge" or "As we're finding out with study" and always warning that recommendations could change.

This position that professionals getting better & changing best practices is proof that they were professionally deficient earlier is a stupid position. It garners laughs every time you write it.

[JustTK]

Let me ask you a question, again:

Q. If you absolutely had to choose between Dems or Repubs, with "gun/pistol to your head" (figuratively speaking of course), which of the two (2) parties do you honestly think will get you closer to your "promised land" or utopian unfettered borderless world?

That question. Is like if I were to ask you - "which would you prefer me to do, rape your daughter or rape your wife?

[JustTK]

Oh, yes, I had no idea that "mess" you say we are in from (Repub) time to (Repub) time is only about how we feel and nothing about the "boring" topic of massive job losses, crippling unemployment, the huge income gap between the top 5% and everyone else, etc.

Then I guess the Repubs' results coming from that angle must be just as bad and demonstrably inferior to that of the Dems as the more direct routes such as, you know, tax policy, healthcare legislation, infrastructure legislation, effective trade deals, responsible budget balancing, funding education, funding law enforcement needs, establishing and funding effective national security protections, etc.

You are drawing conclusions that are not supported by the data. The fact that the Dems have a better historic record than the Reps on the economy does not mean:

- that the modern Dems have good econimic polcies.

- that the modern Dems have a better record on any single policy (rather, they have a better record in aggregate).

- that they Dems do a good job (rather, that they have done a better job than the Reps).

- that the Dems have a good track record on non-economy policy, such as international policy.

2 examples to support my point -.

1. USA support of regime change / military actions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._regime_change

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...ary_operations

You can clearly see that it really doesn't matter who is in charge. The polciy is always the same. Lets make war to make us rich.

2. Income inequality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income..._United_States

"The USA Has the highest level of income inequality among its (post-) industrialized peers".

If the Dems were doing such a great job to help the people, then why do we see such an appalling disparity in income?

I could mention lack of public health care, lack of free education. If the Dems were doing a great job, where is it?

Obviously you will just blame the Reps, bcos that's all you do. I see it in every post you make. Its like the Dems are incapable of reversing out anything that the Reps did.

If the Dems were doing such a great job to help the vast majority of the people, they wouldn't be voted out every 8 years by a worse party. We would see staggeringly better economic indicators. Instead we see a slow down sprial of a falling giant, as both parties try to squeeze what's left out of the dying beast.

[Cali Guy]

The price of gas has gone up 500%, how much has the price of sunlight and wind gone up? The reason electricity prices have not gone up nearly as much as fossil fuel prices is that it is not cost any more to generate electricity from renewables which has helped keep prices lower. No wonder Europe is doubling down on building even more renewable power.

You are correct on one thing. Under Biden energy policy has has gone up 500%. Oil has gone up 100%. Great job Brandon.

[Paulie97]

Oh, yes, I had no idea that "mess" you say we are in from (Repub) time to (Repub) time is only about how we feel and nothing about the "boring" topic of massive job losses, crippling unemployment, the huge income gap between the top 5% and everyone else, etc. Not that those results would have anything to do with how people "feel", right?

Then I guess the Repubs' results coming from that angle must be just as bad and demonstrably inferior to that of the Dems as the more direct routes such as, you know, tax policy, healthcare legislation, infrastructure legislation, effective trade deals, responsible budget balancing, funding education, funding law enforcement needs, establishing and funding effective national security protections, etc.

You're right, I have probably underestimated how much damage Repubs have done to America due to how they make us all "feel" rather than primarily from the stuff you can actually quantify, cite and verify in the data and historical results.

Of course, arguing on that basis is pathetically weak compared to basing it on tangible, provable factors. But if it makes you "feel" better, be my guest.

JustTK's game in ISG is far left Chomsky-esque anti-Americanism, IE. The US is hiding in every Bush and is responsible for all the evil in the world. You of course have your Repub / Dem dichotomy going in economic analysis so you are essentially talking past one another. Your only meeting point is that you both want to argue every day including weekends and holidays. Wink.

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022...such-a-threat/

[PVMonger]

Are you saying Putin shut off the electricity too? Putin is oil and gas. He does not raise prices on electricity in Europe.

And exactly where in his post did the OP mention that Putin shut off electricity? Or even mention electricity at all?

[EihTooms]

I presume you have this passage saved somewhere on your computer so you can copy and paste it, which you do every week. All you talk about is the economy. We have agreed before that the Dems have a better record than the Reps. But TBH, that is one of the least interesting things to me. Its super boring. Take care of relations, and a country with such geographical and geological advantages as the USA should be able manage itself. I am concerned about the role the USA plays on the world stage. It is the world super-villain. Countless international crimes, every year, Dems and Reps alike. But typically, that doesn't seem to bother you, bcos your the beneficiary, not the victim.

Also, just in case you haven't noticed, I am not a USAn. I have never voted in the USA. All I can do is stand at the side and despair at what passes for 'democracy' in the world's ailing super power.

Oh, yes, I had no idea that "mess" you say we are in from (Repub) time to (Repub) time is only about how we feel and nothing about the "boring" topic of massive job losses, crippling unemployment, the huge income gap between the top 5% and everyone else, etc. Not that those results would have anything to do with how people "feel", right?

Take care of relations, and a country with such geographical and geological advantages as the USA should be able manage itself.

Then I guess the Repubs' results coming from that angle must be just as bad and demonstrably inferior to that of the Dems as the more direct routes such as, you know, tax policy, healthcare legislation, infrastructure legislation, effective trade deals, responsible budget balancing, funding education, funding law enforcement needs, establishing and funding effective national security protections, etc.

You're right, I have probably underestimated how much damage Repubs have done to America due to how they make us all "feel" rather than primarily from the stuff you can actually quantify, cite and verify in the data and historical results.

Of course, arguing on that basis is pathetically weak compared to basing it on tangible, provable factors. But if it makes you "feel" better, be my guest.

[GDreams]

Several countries in Europe raised their electric prices to consumers by 25% last week because of renewable energy disasters. Europe has decided to restart a significant amount of their coal fired power plants to try to get back to reliable and cost effective electricity. Do you think the USA is smart enough to avoid this. I know California is not smart enough because we have the dumbest dems in the country. California is among the highest electricity costs in the USA and expected to raise prices like Europe as we do not have a reliable supply of electricity.

The price of gas has gone up 500%, how much has the price of sunlight and wind gone up? The reason electricity prices have not gone up nearly as much as fossil fuel prices is that it is not cost any more to generate electricity from renewables which has helped keep prices lower. No wonder Europe is doubling down on building even more renewable power.

[Spidy]

I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. ... Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.

Let me ask you a question, again:

Q. If you absolutely had to choose between Dems or Repubs, with "gun/pistol to your head" (figuratively speaking of course), which of the two (2) parties do you honestly think will get you closer to your "promised land" or utopian unfettered borderless world?

[JustTK]

Repub Hoover had a gigantic Depression and lost millions of jobs. Dem FDR had a historic recovery and created millions of jobs. Repub Eisenhower had 3 Recessions and produced one of the worst jobs creation results of any modern president. Dems JFK / LBJ had no Recession and produced one of the greatest jobs creation results ever.
... Repub Trump's "best" years fell below average ...

My Dem votes since 1972 resulted in all of those historically positive changes for the country while your Repub / Bothsider / Neithersider votes resulted in all the historically negative changes made to the country since however long you've been voting that way.

I presume you have this passage saved somewhere on your computer so you can copy and paste it, which you do every week. All you talk about is the economy. We have agreed before that the Dems have a better record than the Reps. But TBH, that is one of the least interesting things to me. Its super boring. Take care of relations, and a country with such geographical and geological advantages as the USA should be able manage itself. I am concerned about the role the USA plays on the world stage. It is the world super-villain. Countless international crimes, every year, Dems and Reps alike. But typically, that doesn't seem to bother you, bcos your the beneficiary, not the victim.

Also, just in case you haven't noticed, I am not a USAn. I have never voted in the USA. All I can do is stand at the side and despair at what passes for 'democracy' in the world's ailing super power.