American Politics

[EihTooms]

Unfortunately for Deadbeat Fake Billionaire Sleepy Donald Trump, the best people he knows with any serious money to loan also know him too well to loan him the tiny percentage of money from any real billionaire's net worth to keep his ass out of jail.

A possible Trump bond rejection? NY AG questions if insurance group is good for the money.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n/73216105007/

LOL. This is how much a real billionaire can part with any and every year for the greater good of America:

Mark Cuban says he's proud to pay $288 million in taxes this year, unlike a certain former president.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark...esident-2024-4

"I pay what I owe. Tomorrow I will wire transfer to the IRS $288,000,000.00," Cuban wrote on X on Sunday.

"This country has done so much for me, I'm proud to pay my taxes every single year. Tag a former president that you know doesn't," Cuban added, in what appeared to be a jab at former President Donald Trump.

[Beijing4987]

Meanwhile, commercial real estate, shopping malls, etc, etc continues to tank. Will the genius's on this thread care to blame the poor, the wretched leaving their homes in the south for safety and economic stability in El Norte? Did they sit on the border with a clicker, counting out the, what was it, 20,000,000 now. Have they studied the history of United Fruit Company mucking about? The numerous coups, South American soldiers trained by US military in "counter insurgency" . The weapons that left Mina, Arkansas bound for the Contras in Honduras when Slick Willy Clinton was the governor? Read "Blowback" by Chalmers Johnson. The "chaos" in Haiti is a direct result of US oligarchs calling the shots. This quote from Jim Jatmusch's "Down by Law" "The US is a melting pot. The scum rises to the top".

[Spidy]

LOL. Do you get supply and demand? If you bring in 20 million immigrants and the supply of housing only slightly goes up, then the price on housing WILL go up.

Over time, things will balance out but for now, you can have your 20 million immigrants and higher rent prices. It is an either or situation. What else do you think was going to happen you unicorn farting soy boy?

And I blamed Biden for letting in the immigrants not the immigrants themselves but do not let facts get in the way of your rant.

(...kkkk!) Perhaps you missed where I said, "Meanwhile, the real culprits, the REITs, the billionaire class and the greedy corporations buying up single family homes and driving up rents as much as 30-40%", hence manipulating and exacerbating, the availability of reasonable rents and taking away affordable housing for American families.

BTW, what publication/source did you get your "bring in 20 million immigrants" number from? Or did you just pull, this data outta your ass, from the 1920's?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...donations-2022

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, d-n. y, this week mounted a vigorous defense of big investment firms' right to consider environmental, social and governance (ESG) ...
Hey, Soy Boy, can you read a map? You do know Wall Street is in the bluest of blue states right?

Yeah, all you're backwards ass shuckin' n jivin', won't hide the real facts about most of the wealthiest on Wall St. and the billionaire class, being as "ruby red" as a "pig in a poke", as they all line up around the block and hedge their bets (with large donations to Trump's Truth Social, DJT), for yet another 2-trillion dollar Trump tax break for billionaires, but fuck avg. Americans.

US billionaires have doubled their wealth since 2017 Trump tax overhaul
https://www.salon.com/2024/04/11/us-...2017-overhaul/

[EihTooms]

Ordinarily I wouldn't bother visiting any polling site all that often. But the shenanigans that demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics goes through to keep their beloved Trump / Repubs looking like loveable "winners" everyone ought to be siding with is just too blatantly obvious and fun to track. LOL.

How do you even up the President Betting Odds consensus between Trumpty-Dumpty and Joe Biden heading into the Sunday political shows so the pro Repub "Bothsiders" can claim all due diligence overviews of everything important to factor in shows it a tie instead of showing Biden taking the lead?

Simple. You just eliminate one of the President Betting Odds sites that had Biden ahead by a point (maybe more today) and, bingo, Trump and Biden are now dead even at 41.5 each!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/el...024/president/

Note the screenshot from the day before with five sites factored into the consensus showing Biden with a growing lead to 42.8 over Trump's 42.0 compared to today's screenshot of it down to just four sites that will at least show them in a tie for those Sunday political show pundits to disregard as anything worth mentioning, at best.

And that is how demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP does it, folks.

[Elvis 2008]

And the latest from our neighborhood resident conspiracist, Elvis 20008, after no doubt watching another fun filled FOXY Muse, disinformation "news" segment {no doubt entitled} "You
Guessed it America...it's the IMMIGRANTS!"

LOL. Do you get supply and demand? If you bring in 20 million immigrants and the supply of housing only slightly goes up, then the price on housing WILL go up.

Over time, things will balance out but for now, you can have your 20 million immigrants and higher rent prices. It is an either or situation. What else do you think was going to happen you unicorn farting soy boy?

And I blamed Biden for letting in the immigrants not the immigrants themselves but do not let facts get in the way of your rant.

Meanwhile, the real culprits, the REITs, the billionaire class and the greedy corporations buying up single family homes and driving up rents as much as 30-40%, in some areas are laughing all the way to the bank

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...donations-2022

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, d-n. y, this week mounted a vigorous defense of big investment firms' right to consider environmental, social and governance (ESG) factors when evaluating their investment decisions. But a conservative ethics watchdog is calling out the Democratic leader for being the top campaign donation recipient from BlackRock one of the leading advocates of sustainable investing.

BlackRock is an unapologetic advocate for ESG, which has come under fire from Republican politicians who have accused corporations of going "woke" by basing investment decisions on climate impact, diversity, or other factors they associate with a liberal agenda.

End of link.

Ah yes, those wealthy Wall Street types are not just Democratic douches pushing up rents. These are the assholes who brought politics to investing. An ESG score is another way of saying how Democrat friendly your company is.

So while Blackrock is stuffing its portfolio with real estate investments pushing up the costs of renting and home ownership on middle America, they dole out a few $ to pols and promote this ESG bullshit and douches like you fall for their crap. Oh, Blackrock is soooo great.

Hey, Soy Boy, can you read a map? You do know Wall Street is in the bluest of blue states right?

[EihTooms]

Well, the MSNBC listening, NYT reading Demolunes / Democrat douches do not read or listen to anything outside of their narrow lane. So whatever is said on Fox, they just dismiss. It is not even that Biden is running things. Biden was elected on being a white moderate Democrat and he has been anything but.

Presidents are credited or blamed for a lot of things that are beyond their control. I am not sure the economy is going to be great even if Trump gets elected given how much debt has been racked up, but you can see presidents make huge changes in foreign policy and relations between leaders.

Look at the twitter feed on this article of Biden talking to the Iranians about their rumored attack on Israel. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-attack-israel.

I have seen gnats more intimidating than Biden is. Is it any shock that Iran did not heed Biden's warning and launched an attack anyway? Now we are going to have pro-war douches like Xpartan saying an attack on Israel is an attack on the USA and want us to go to war with Iran.

With Biden and his administration, they have thought more of parading around military men in dresses than showing off the power of the military. What impresses their constituents is being laughed at in places like Iran. The reason we have a strong military is that you project such power that others are afraid to face you. We have the opposite now. We are projecting weakness.

Someone put up a meme on Twitter. On one side you have the face of Trump and the word peace. On the other it is the face of Biden and war. Biden was preparing to go to war from the day he got into office. That is something I saw with my own eyes. In fact, a buddy of mine told me that no president had not been re-elected in the midst of a war, and that seems to have been what Biden's plan was and it has blown up in his face.

Biden was preparing to go to war when he took over from Donnie while the USA War a previous Repub started was still being waged as it had been for every minute of every hour of every day of Donnie's entire so-called presidency until Biden pulled us out of it in the most successful and least deadly withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side in History?

Is that really the kind of twisted pretzel nonsense one gets their heads filled with from watching too much Fux News and other Winger Clown Shows?

Let's recap the idiotic, unprincipled, spineless and opportunistic Repub mindset on war vs intelligent Dem handling of it from just the 4 most recent presidents, shall we?

GW Bush's astonishing incompetence with regard to ordinary National Security measures and Response plunges us into two Wars in the Middle East based on at least 900 lies told by him, his VP and others in his administration. The Repub response?

"You are either with us or against us. Bush is great! He kept us safe! Only America-haters oppose these wars"!

Obama takes office while both of Repub Bush's wars are raging and accomplishing nothing, as predicted. The Repub response?

"Obama is a Warmonger! Why are we still at War? Obama loves war and his fecklessness is plunging us into more wars"!

Obama pulls us out of one of those counterproductive Repub / Bush quagmire wars. The Repub response?

"Obama is a coward! He pulled us out of that war too soon, too late, too big, too small and not in exactly the right way"!

Trump gets appointed so-called president by a handful of Electoral College appointees against the obvious will and wishes of the majority of the American electorate and proceeds to happily preside over the second USA war the previous Repub plunged us into for every minute of every hour of every day of his so-called presidency. The Repub response?

"Trump is a Great Man of Peace! He kept us out of war! There were NO WARS anywhere on Earth under Trump because every world leader feared and respected him! He kept us safe! Oh, and his economic and National Security policies and stewardship results made sure the USA economy was the greatest of any country ever and not one American died from a foreign force or danger the entire time Trump The Good Shepherd watched over his flock. Trump is The God of Peace, Good Health and Prosperty"!

Biden takes over in the midst of the ongoing Repub war still raging under Trump for the entirety of his miserable 4 year term and, oh by the way, the absolute worst economic and national security conditions in USA history but still manages to finally pull us out of that second counterproductive Repub quagmire war. The Repub response?

"Biden is a Warmonger! Biden pulled us out of that glorious Repub war too soon, too late, too big, too small and not in exactly the right way! Oh, and he destroyed the perfect economy Trump handed him too! The Biden economy is Crashing so badly, jobs are being wiped out by the Millions and millions, wages are plunging, buying power is down to zero so of course the only thing on Biden's mind is to plunge us into another counterproductive Repub er I mean Dem War! Like the USA War in Ukraine. Er, I mean the USA War in Gaza. Er, I mean, well, whatever war and conflict is happening anywhere even though the USA is not really directly involved. Besides, remember there were NO WARS anywhere on Earth snd especially NO WAR involving the USA throughout Trump's glorious, best economy ever 4 years in office! Never forget that".

LOL. No sane, peace-loving, prosperty-loving American should waste one brain cell or one minute of their life giving serious consideration to anything any Repub has to say about War, Peace or the Economy.

[Spidy]

... Who knew that letting in millions of immigrants would cause rents to skyrocket?

Gee it is just like I see on Fox.

How to tell when you're drinking way too much of the FOXY Muse, right-wing "scapegoat" propaganda Kool-Aid?

You Guessed it!

• Now EVERYTHING is the fault of the immigrants:
  > COVID-19...it's the immigrants!
  > No Job for Americans....it's the immigrants!
  > High price of food...it's the immigrants!
  > High gas prices...it's the immigrants!
  > Crime...it's the immigrants!
  > Voter fraud...blame the immigrants!
  > Looming Gov't shutdown...blame the immigrants!

And the latest from our neighborhood resident conspiracist, Elvis 20008, after no doubt watching another fun filled FOXY Muse, disinformation "news" segment {no doubt entitled} "You
Guessed it America...it's the IMMIGRANTS!"

And what must now be, the latest disinformation and lies being told to their gullible horde/viewers, is that:
> "Immigrants are responsible for your increase in RENT"

Wall Street has purchased hundreds of thousands of single-family homes since the Great Recession. Here's what that means for rental prices.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/21/how-...-for-rent.html

Why Are REITs Going All-In on Single-Family Rentals?
https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/...family-rental/

Meanwhile, the real culprits, the REITs, the billionaire class and the greedy corporations buying up single family homes and driving up rents as much as 30-40%, in some areas are laughing all the way to the bank, as gullible Americans (and some Aussies it would seem), drink-up the Kool-Aid over at FOXY Muse and spread disinformation and misinformation about, "You Guessed IT...it's the IMMIGRANTS fault!"

Is it any wonder Russia and Putin, just loves, these "useful idiots" (...kkkk!)

[Elvis 2008]

Gee it is just like I see on Fox.

A lot of people in the US support Crooked Joe. Ha. He can't even read and falls over all the time and lets millions of people in to destroy and kill your own. Wow. You Yankies are different.

Then there is Nancy. Ha.

And Hillary. Ha ha ha.

And Hunter. Give me a break.

And the insurrection. People still locked up. But Black Lives Matter. Um.wtf.

I know I am a racist. Ha ha. The answer to every argument.

Gee you Demolunies have tried every thing including 91 joke charges.(if one of the charges were not a joke. He would be locked up) but he is still free and WILL be the next President of the USA.

Thanks God for making my life so much fun. And especially for Mr Donny Trump. And the funny dudes on this site.

Whilst ever Donny Trump is around and the Demolunes are not in power. The world has a chance.

Well, the MSNBC listening, NYT reading Demolunes / Democrat douches do not read or listen to anything outside of their narrow lane. So whatever is said on Fox, they just dismiss. It is not even that Biden is running things. Biden was elected on being a white moderate Democrat and he has been anything but.

Presidents are credited or blamed for a lot of things that are beyond their control. I am not sure the economy is going to be great even if Trump gets elected given how much debt has been racked up, but you can see presidents make huge changes in foreign policy and relations between leaders.

Look at the twitter feed on this article of Biden talking to the Iranians about their rumored attack on Israel. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-attack-israel.

I have seen gnats more intimidating than Biden is. Is it any shock that Iran did not heed Biden's warning and launched an attack anyway? Now we are going to have pro-war douches like Xpartan saying an attack on Israel is an attack on the USA and want us to go to war with Iran.

With Biden and his administration, they have thought more of parading around military men in dresses than showing off the power of the military. What impresses their constituents is being laughed at in places like Iran. The reason we have a strong military is that you project such power that others are afraid to face you. We have the opposite now. We are projecting weakness.

Someone put up a meme on Twitter. On one side you have the face of Trump and the word peace. On the other it is the face of Biden and war. Biden was preparing to go to war from the day he got into office. That is something I saw with my own eyes. In fact, a buddy of mine told me that no president had not been re-elected in the midst of a war, and that seems to have been what Biden's plan was and it has blown up in his face.

[EihTooms]

And how did it affect you -- watching Fox in Australia? Is Fox more honest and less propagand-esque in Australia than it is in America? Is it more pro-Putin or less? Please enlighten us.

Really?

But he already had his 4 years. What stopped him from saving the world? And what do you think he'll do differently next time?

By the way, you don't have to censor yourself on this forum. If you believe the world is fucked -- go ahead and scream it from the rooftops. You're welcome.

He has already posted his high praise for "The Great Donald Trump" a couple of times here, maybe more than that using a different name and he has yet to cite one positive thing Trump did in those 4 years as great as Biden's worst day in office.

As near as we can tell, he is simply damned impressed that Trump is too fat to get one leg over the crossbar of a bicycle and therefore has never been caught on video falling off of one.

[Tlito]

Gee it is just like I see on Fox.

A lot of people in the US support Crooked Joe. Ha. He can't even read and falls over all the time and lets millions of people in to destroy and kill your own. Wow. You Yankies are different.

Then there is Nancy. Ha.

And Hillary. Ha ha ha.

And Hunter. Give me a break.

And the insurrection. People still locked up. But Black Lives Matter. Um.wtf.

I know I am a racist. Ha ha. The answer to every argument.

Gee you Demolunies have tried every thing including 91 joke charges.(if one of the charges were not a joke. He would be locked up) but he is still free and WILL be the next President of the USA.

Thanks God for making my life so much fun. And especially for Mr Donny Trump. And the funny dudes on this site.

Whilst ever Donny Trump is around and the Demolunes are not in power. The world has a chance.

[Spidy]

Vietnamese R/E developer sentenced to death for fraud of $12.5 billion dollars, the countrys largest financial fraud case ever.

Vietnam sentences real estate tycoon to death in $12.5 billion fraud case
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/v...aud-rcna147329

I see now, what billionaire, Kevin O'Leary, meant when he was talking to FOXY Muse Business, about Trump's R/E fraud case and says :

• "...everything you've just listed off, is done by every R/E developer, everywhere on earth, in every city" {...when referring to the over evaluation of Trump's tax R/E fraud claims...}
  
  But was oh so wrong, when he then goes on to say "...and this [type of thing] has never ever been prosecuted."

I wonder if O'Leary would like to revise his prior statement, considering Vietnam's very strong laws and penalties against such Trumpian R/E fraud?

The Vietnamese judicial system is sending a clear message, that billionaire fraud, will NOT be tolerated and a DEATH sentence, awaits those who would entertain such brazen criminal behavior.

In light of these events in Vietnam and big mouth billionaires telling the world, this type of fraud is perfectly normal, one has to wonder, if the DOJ, IRS and FBI need to take a closer look at R/E over evaluations and fraud in general by R/E developers?

But the DEATH sentence, for criminal fraud on this scale is an interesting deterrent, for the billionaire class...well at least in Vietnam, anyways!

[Xpartan]

I was watching Fox recently in Australia.

And how did it affect you -- watching Fox in Australia? Is Fox more honest and less propagand-esque in Australia than it is in America? Is it more pro-Putin or less? Please enlighten us.

If The great man. Don Trump does not win the next election.

The world is Fu.d

Really?

But he already had his 4 years. What stopped him from saving the world? And what do you think he'll do differently next time?

By the way, you don't have to censor yourself on this forum. If you believe the world is fucked -- go ahead and scream it from the rooftops. You're welcome.

[EihTooms]

We haven't had an update on the polls lately but some interesting changes have been in the works since Sleepy, Can't Put Two Words Together, Doesn't Know Who or Where he Is, Laughing Stock Joe Biden delivered his State of the Union Address and began campaigning in earnest.

It seems the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media got it a tad wrong when they were insisting Biden's speech and presentation didn't earn him a bump in the polls and, oh my goodness, might have even made them worse for him.

Remember when that same typically pro MSM was getting everyone all excited about those polls showing Trump 5-7 points ahead of Biden in the head-to-head, the 5-way and the battleground state poll consensus?

Hmm. As of this writing, just 5 weeks after that terrific SOTU Address, Biden is now 0. 2 points from Trump in the head-to-head consensus, less that 2 points from him in the 5-way contest, 2. 7 points (less than half of what it was 5 weeks ago) in the battleground states. A statistical tie and well within a normal +/-MoE on all counts, cutting Trump's pre SOTU Address lead at least in half and way more than that on most issues.

And that is in the RealClearPolitics' consensus polls on those topics, a demonstrably Winger-leaning site.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Oh, and this is the most interesting item in that regard. The Presidential Betting Odds sites were showing Trump way ahead of Biden ore SOTU. Not anymore. Now their RCP consensus shows Trump only 0. 5 point ahead of Biden. And take a gander at the trajectory of that Blue / Biden graph line vs the Red / Trump graph line! LOL. Wow.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/el...024/president/

See, those Presidential Betting Odds sites don't merely look at a consensus of polls. They factor in everything they deem important, such as the direction of the polls, money, the expenditure of money, the ground game, the competence of each campaign and so on.

Interesting, huh?

Slight correction. I meant to type that now BIDEN is ahead of TRUMP by 0. 5 point in the RealClearPolitics' Presidential Betting Odds consensus.

And you know what that sneaky little demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP site did to show Biden's lead in that category no greater than 0. 5 point for now? 2-3 days ago when Trump was still clinging to a 0. 2 point lead over Biden they only factored in 5 different Betting sites. But the instant Biden took a commanding lead on Predictlt, historically the most accurately predictive of the group, RCP hustled in a 6th site with a closer rating between the two candidates in order to keep Biden's current lead over Trump a wee bit lower. LOL.

Mind you, that cute skyrocketing upward trajectory for Biden and fish hook shaped decline for Trump as you see in that Pic I posted previously began right after Biden's SOTU Address, has been happening for weeks, well before the latest Arizona and Florida events in response to Trump / Repubs' recent victories in their mission to Outlaw Sex For Pleasure, as has been a Classic Repub Party mission for several decades.

Ah. Here it is. See what demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP did there? The pic with only 5 Presidential Betting Odds sites factored in was from just a day or two ago, when Trump still held a 0. 2 point lead over Biden. By contrast, the pic showing Biden with a 0. 5 point lead over Trump is from today. And a 6th site showing Biden and Trump closer than that has suddenly, mysteriously and magically come out of nowhere to join the group and be factored in.

LOL. So funny.

[EihTooms]

We haven't had an update on the polls lately but some interesting changes have been in the works since Sleepy, Can't Put Two Words Together, Doesn't Know Who or Where he Is, Laughing Stock Joe Biden delivered his State of the Union Address and began campaigning in earnest.

It seems the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media got it a tad wrong when they were insisting Biden's speech and presentation didn't earn him a bump in the polls and, oh my goodness, might have even made them worse for him.

Remember when that same typically pro MSM was getting everyone all excited about those polls showing Trump 5-7 points ahead of Biden in the head-to-head, the 5-way and the battleground state poll consensus?

Hmm. As of this writing, just 5 weeks after that terrific SOTU Address, Biden is now 0. 2 points from Trump in the head-to-head consensus, less that 2 points from him in the 5-way contest, 2. 7 points (less than half of what it was 5 weeks ago) in the battleground states. A statistical tie and well within a normal +/-MoE on all counts, cutting Trump's pre SOTU Address lead at least in half and way more than that on most issues.

And that is in the RealClearPolitics' consensus polls on those topics, a demonstrably Winger-leaning site.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Oh, and this is the most interesting item in that regard. The Presidential Betting Odds sites were showing Trump way ahead of Biden ore SOTU. Not anymore. Now their RCP consensus shows Trump only 0. 5 point ahead of Biden. And take a gander at the trajectory of that Blue / Biden graph line vs the Red / Trump graph line! LOL. Wow.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/el...024/president/

See, those Presidential Betting Odds sites don't merely look at a consensus of polls. They factor in everything they deem important, such as the direction of the polls, money, the expenditure of money, the ground game, the competence of each campaign and so on.

Interesting, huh?

[EihTooms]

Thanks Elvis.

I was watching Fox recently in Australia. Do you guys realise you are now a joke.Thanks to Joe and Cammy They were talking about the American Indigenous getting tax breaks. I turn over to Sky Australia and they are taking about our indigenous getting the same breaks. Wow we are mirroring your every leftist move. Awful. Our immigration is sky rocketing our PM wants to be Joe. Ha. He is not that bad. But very close.

Can you blokes defend his stance on Gaza yes or no..

Also I noted with interest how a couple of the boys love to use stats against The Great Don
Looking at the CPI figures today .wellanother stat in favour of the Great man

Someone please help us.

If The great man. Don Trump does not win the next election.

The world is Fu.d

So you were watching Fux News, huh? LOL. Well, that explains why you are so clueless about virtually everything important.

Explain whose position on Gaza? Biden's or Netanyahu's?

Well, it isn't Biden's war, but Biden's position on Gaza is to encourage a cease fire for the sake of the people of Gaza and Israel.

The George W. Bush and Donald J. Trump of Israel, Netanyahu's position is to keep whatever slaughter his spectacular national security incompetence allowed to begin going as long as it takes to provide the distraction from his criminal charges he was hoping for.