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  1. #13816

    LOL. Target management is getting busted for their BS.

    These guys ought to cut the BS and just admit some of them are simply lousy CEOs, lousy managers and not good at their jobs. Stop passing the buck when they produce crap results like hack Repubs. You know, for the good of the country.

    Target blamed theft and violence for 9 store closures. Crime is higher at locations it kept open nearby.
    Dec. 19, 2023


    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/19/targ...ndroidappshare

    Target blamed theft and violence when it closed nine stores in four cities earlier this year, but a CNBC investigation found reported crime is worse at most of the locations it kept open near those stores.

    In some cases, Target chose to keep operating stores in busier areas that had better foot traffic or higher median incomes, even though the locations saw more theft and violence.

    CNBCs findings cast doubt on Targets explanation for the store closures and raise questions about whether the companys announcement was designed to advance its legislative agenda and obscure poor financial performance.
    Look, there is always a place for Know Nothings who produce crap results in the Republican Party. Take that up as your next career if you can't cut it selling scotch tape and dishwasher detergent.

  2. #13815

    Yeah right

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    "Aside from the easily predictable massive increase in the deficit once today's Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House gets fully on track reinforcing and celebrating their lord and savior Trump's most disastrous economy-crippling "achievements", we must include this as their own remarkable "achievement" in taking money out of the pockets of the American taxpayer and skyrocketing their deficits.

    Debt ceiling brinksmanship has clear negative effects on taxpayers.

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/d...s-on-taxpayers

    THE DEBT.

    The High Cost of Debt Ceiling Brinksmanship.

    https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/...-Brinksmanship

    Debt ceiling showdown "was incredibly costly" to USA, economic expert says.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debt-ce...esident-biden/

    LOL. It is hilarious that anyone could point to one utterly irrelevant benefit for no one by their reducing the investment of provable recovery measures and therefore delaying the recovery from Trump's Repub Economic Disaster as a "savings" while they are also rabid proponents and practitioners of favorite Repub Party moves that genuinely cost America and American taxpayers more money, produce higher deficits and, oh as an added bonus for Repubs, provides at least a Trillion Dollars in free publicity and positive press for every anti-democratic authoritarian dictator and wannabe authoritarian dictator on the planet. Every time they do it. As this current Repub Loon House has done.

    Shades of the usual Repub Party scam of dangling disproportionately greater tax cuts for top income margins and corporations but with the price of that ticket being another Great Repub Depression / Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction, of course. It is such a blatant, woefully obvious misdirection con. But they get away with doing it as long as their benefactors in Mainstream Media continue to insinuate that their beloved Repub candidates probably "handle the economy better than Democrats."

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023...e-income-fell/
    Uh-huh.

    That's why spending and travel has been at "all time lows" ever since Biden and the Dems recovered us from the latest Great (Trump) Repub Economic Disaster.

    Consumer spending reaches record high in October: report.
    Dec. 4, 2023


    https://thehill.com/business/4341569...ctober-report/

    Record US Holiday Air Travel to See 7.5 Million Fly, AAA Says.
    Dec. 11, 2023


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-fly-aaa-says

    Nobody has any money!

    Don't you have a link to a very long but shocking YouTube video showing people not shopping, not going anywhere and not doing anything for the first in their lives ever since January 20,2021?

  3. #13814

    Stop bullshitting already

    "Aside from the easily predictable massive increase in the deficit once today's Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House gets fully on track reinforcing and celebrating their lord and savior Trump's most disastrous economy-crippling "achievements", we must include this as their own remarkable "achievement" in taking money out of the pockets of the American taxpayer and skyrocketing their deficits.

    Debt ceiling brinksmanship has clear negative effects on taxpayers.

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/d...s-on-taxpayers

    THE DEBT.

    The High Cost of Debt Ceiling Brinksmanship.

    https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/...-Brinksmanship

    Debt ceiling showdown "was incredibly costly" to USA, economic expert says.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debt-ce...esident-biden/

    LOL. It is hilarious that anyone could point to one utterly irrelevant benefit for no one by their reducing the investment of provable recovery measures and therefore delaying the recovery from Trump's Repub Economic Disaster as a "savings" while they are also rabid proponents and practitioners of favorite Repub Party moves that genuinely cost America and American taxpayers more money, produce higher deficits and, oh as an added bonus for Repubs, provides at least a Trillion Dollars in free publicity and positive press for every anti-democratic authoritarian dictator and wannabe authoritarian dictator on the planet. Every time they do it. As this current Repub Loon House has done.

    Shades of the usual Repub Party scam of dangling disproportionately greater tax cuts for top income margins and corporations but with the price of that ticket being another Great Repub Depression / Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction, of course. It is such a blatant, woefully obvious misdirection con. But they get away with doing it as long as their benefactors in Mainstream Media continue to insinuate that their beloved Repub candidates probably "handle the economy better than Democrats."

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023...e-income-fell/

  4. #13813

    Hmm. How about lower than that?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    "After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.

    We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn't vote for it.

    Sorry, I know you're disappointed."

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bi...18/id/1146378/

    Will he ever lose the support of you and ET?
    Your lord and savior got a lower Job Approval Rating in that same poll back when he had a job. Sort of. And he never lost your support. LOL:

    32%

    Trump Rating Hits Record Low.
    Dec. 13, 2017


    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-ins...oll_us_121317/

  5. #13812

    I'm guessing this is what most libertarians want

    "After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.

    We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn't vote for it.

    Sorry, I know you're disappointed. "

    Cheap slaves compliments of Dirtbag Joe.

    https://www.aol.com/news/minor-died-...110205535.html

    Icing on the cake for you and the rest of the Mitt fan club, would be if the family can't even sue!!

  6. #13811

    How low can Dirtbag Joe go?

    "After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.

    We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn't vote for it.

    Sorry, I know you're disappointed."

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bi...18/id/1146378/

    Will he ever lose the support of you and ET?

  7. #13810

    There you go again

    "all of that was as bad or worse under Trump than under Biden.

    Uh. You do know crimes occurred all around the world even before the creation of 24/7/365 Cable News Channels, 24/7/365 Internet Access and everyone keeping a locked and loaded smartphone camera at the ready in their hand, right?

    W numbers, sweeeeet.

    Thanks Dirtbag Joe.

    https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...bushs-numbers/

  8. #13809

    King of whataboutism strikes again

    "All of that was as bad or worse under Trump than under Biden.

    Uh. You do know crimes occurred all around the world even before the creation of 24/7/365 Cable News Channels, 24/7/365 Internet Access and everyone keeping a locked and loaded smartphone camera at the ready in their hand, right?

    Yes blame those damn iPhones and CNN LMAO.

    https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/in...9-85f552cfb0cf

  9. #13808

    Of course it was 100% better than Repub Do Nothingness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.

    We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldnt vote for it.

    Sorry, I know you're disappointed.
    And if we wanted Nothing or, FAR more likely, an absolute shit-storm greater disaster of a response to GW Bush's Great Repub Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction, we could have sat on our butts and Done Nothing until that mythical point in the distant pie-in-the-sky, Never Never Land, Never Ever Will Happen Future arrives when Repubs came up with a fix for that horrific Repub Policy and Stewardship economic disaster.

    Thank God we didn't do the latter. Thank Obama-Biden and the Dems that we didn't have to.

    I appears that you were not exactly awake, alert and paying attention to all or perhaps even any of the events going on in the country, in Congress especially, while Obama-Biden were taking office and Repub Policy and Stewardship economy was crashing down around our ears for the umpteenth time and brave free-market Capitalists were diving under their beds and shitting their pants for as many times.

    Well, I was awake, alert and paying attention to who did and did not do what at that time. Obama-Biden and the Dems saved the USA and much of the world economy. Similar to what Biden-Harris did. You want to fault them for not nailing in advance down to the dime while everyone was staring into another unknowable, bottomless abyss of unprecedented catastrophic Repub economic policy and stewardship disaster, hey, knock yourself out. That is what theoretical, inattentive to the real world, economic acadamia is all about.

  10. #13807

    I take it back

    After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.

    We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn’t vote for it.

    Sorry, I know you're disappointed.

  11. #13806

    For the Marquis. Donald Trump is a Great Defender of LGBT people


  12. #13805
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    BTW, the same dramatic change of course reflection point recovery in the stock market, jobs creation and the end of GW Bush's Great Recession began within two weeks of Obama signing and passing the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009. With virtually no Repub support. All Dems. Legislation, not simply sitting there waiting for a recovery that might not begin for another 4-5 years and not a matter of them simply saying, "But we're Democrats"! Legislation. Work. Doing Something. Not Doing Nothing or Doing Something Stupid.

    And what followed was, as under FDR, Clinton, Biden and even Carter and JFK / LBJ, one of the Greatest Economic Recoveries and Jobs Creation Presidential Terms of all time.
    I don't remember the details of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act but do believe it was appropriate and merited Republican support. OK, you've been working on me for over a year now, and you can now take pride in knowing I now recognize you're right about something. You have caused me to realize perhaps there's a kernel of truth in your claim that Republican intransigence was overdone. In that particular instance.

    Calling what happened subsequently "one of the Greatest Economic Recoveries and Jobs Creation Presidential Terms of all time" is a huge exaggeration. The recovery was anemic. Obama and the Democrats did have the good sense to extend all the Bush tax cuts for two years, which was what a good Keynesian would tell you to do at the tail end of a recession. And to make the rate cuts permanent for all except high income earners. Too bad they didn't follow up with spending cuts once we were out of the woods and the economy was doing OK.

    It ain't your daddy's Democratic Party any more though Tooms. The American Rescue Plan was overkill that busted the budget and kicked off inflation. Barrack Obama, Larry Summers and Jason Furman never would have proposed something like that, at that moment in time. Summers and Furman have said so.

  13. #13804

    Sure. No matter who is president as long as it is a Dem armed with Dem legislation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Twelve million jobs were added between April, 2020 and January, 2021, when Biden took office. And employment was going to continue to increase regardless of who was president. Yes, we might have a somewhat higher unemployment rate and fewer jobs if not for the Democrats' spending bills in 2021 and 2022. But at what cost? The federal debt held by the public is $26 trillion.
    Employment did not increase no matter who was president after the 1929 Great Repub Crash until after FDR and the Dems took over in March 1933 and began to legislate the New Deal. The Coolidge / Hoover Twins of Supply-Side / Trickle-Down Tax Policy and Zero-to-Disastrous Economic Stewardship are still the revered Repub Party template that Reagan, Bush2 and Trump repeated. With the expected results.

    If incoming Dem Biden has launched into the same lies, mocking mitigation measures and horrific mismanagement of the vaccine distribution and administration that Trump exhibited re the virus and Trump's Pandemic for every month of 2020, even more millions of jobs would have been lost. The post-election relief rally in the stock market after it was known that Biden won was one of if not the greatest stock market relief rally in history. Because the forward-looking stock market investors knew a Dem Biden was not going to pull a Repub Hoover, Reagan, Bush2 or Trump and make all the worst decisions to exacerbate their Repub economic disaster. In all probability every job recovery and unemployment rate decline after January 20 was based on that same premise.

    Thanks, Joe.

    BTW, the same dramatic change of course reflection point recovery in the stock market, jobs creation and the end of GW Bush's Great Recession began within two weeks of Obama signing and passing the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009. With virtually no Repub support. All Dems. Legislation, not simply sitting there waiting for a recovery that might not begin for another 4-5 years and not a matter of them simply saying, "But we're Democrats"! Legislation. Work. Doing Something. Not Doing Nothing or Doing Something Stupid.

    And what followed was, as under FDR, Clinton, Biden and even Carter and JFK / LBJ, one of the Greatest Economic Recoveries and Jobs Creation Presidential Terms of all time.

    If those things happen "no matter who is president" shouldn't it have happened at least once under a Repub president in the past 100 years or so? I mean, even due to random chance? Instead of not even once?

  14. #13803
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Second, the millions upon millions of jobs Trump wiped out when his efforts finally produced Trump's Pandemic were truly wiped out and lost. They were not put "on hiatus" with pay, go take a vacation for a few weeks.
    Twelve million jobs were added between April, 2020 and January, 2021, when Biden took office. And employment was going to continue to increase regardless of who was president. Yes, we might have a somewhat higher unemployment rate and fewer jobs if not for the Democrats' spending bills in 2021 and 2022. But at what cost? The federal debt held by the public is $26 trillion.

  15. #13802

    You should demand a refund from that Chicago School of Economics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Sorry. OK, I get it now. You attended the EihTooms School of Economics. You're giving Biden credit for every job added in the USA from the day Biden took office, after the end of a pandemic-induced recession that represented the worst downturn since the Great Depression.

    The total number of non-farm jobs in February, 2020 when COVID struck was 152,371,000, and there are 157,087,000 now. That's during a period when the working aged population increased from 205,608,000 to 209,039,000.

    The EihTooms School believes that GDP growth and employment growth are only correlated to the party of the president, and all data must be interpreted to the benefit of Democratic presidents. Trump deserves all the blame for job losses during a worldwide pandemic, and Ronald Reagan deserves all the blame for a recession that started during the Carter Administration. Barrack Obama and Joe Biden deserve sole credit for all gains in GDP and jobs coming out of recessions. Any any GDP growth or increase in jobs during the Reagan and Trump administration (pre-COVID) were just because of conditions created by President Carter and President Obama respectfully.

    I'm more a Chicago School adherent myself.

    DINO's, LOL.
    Uh. First of all, Trump's Pandemic was an economic policy and stewardship choice made by Donald Trump in 2018,2019 and all through 2020. It did not just "happen" to the poor idiot out of nowhere. He was fully warned against making those dangerous and stupid decisions but made them anyway.

    Second, the millions upon millions of jobs Trump wiped out when his efforts finally produced Trump's Pandemic were truly wiped out and lost. They were not put "on hiatus" with pay, go take a vacation for a few weeks.

    The same as when The Great Repub Depression "struck", the Great Repub Reagan Whopping Ten Consecutive Months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates "struck", GW Bush's Great Repub Recession "struck", etc.

    Seriously? Your School of Economics taught you that massive, historic job losses in the millions during Great (typically Repub) Economics Disasters are never really "lost" and that when recoveries and boom times are created (typically Dem. And note, they don't just "happen" nor are they "struck") thanks to real world efforts like legislation and new policies enacted, they were never really "gained"?

    LOL. I'd ask for a refund of whatever you paid for those lessons if I were you. That is, unless they try to bamboozle you by floating different concepts than "pay" and "lessons" for that kind of event too.

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