American Politics

[Tiny 12]

Tiny's right. No other misplaced Repub policy is as idiotic as their crusade against immigration. To Cubans and Nicaraguans I can add Russians, Ukrainians, and pretty much all other post-Soviet ethnic groups, plus Vietnamese, Chinese, and many others who come to the States to escape from communist or leftist regimes. For better or worse (worse!) the majority of these people are predisposed to conservativism, since they are trying to move as far from the left as humanly possible.

Funnily, a lot of Mexicans and other Latin America immigrants are natural conservatives as well, but that probably has more to do with their Catholic values than politics.

This dumb belief that every immigrant must be a catch for the Democratic party (probably because they're poor when they get here, LOL) is truly remarkable.

Good post, and I'm not saying that just because you said I'm right. Trump made a big mistake calling Mexican immigrants murderers and rapists. Stephen Miller, the mastermind of the Xenophobe branch of the Republican Party, always struck me as a slime ball.

[Tiny 12]

It's been that way for ages and will only get worse as our entitled younger generations can't get their noses out of their smartphones long enough to flip a burger, mow a lawn, pick fruit, or install a roof on a hot day. Yes we have long needed unskilled labor from abroad and need more. Your idea about only allowing in doctors and nurses and the like is preposterous. Get out of your computer chair and typing essays here long enough to get out and have a look around and maybe you'll begin to get it. Wink.

P.S. It's equally silly to blame Biden for multi-causal economic woes that are consistent and worldwide. That notion has already been refuted here many times, but that seldom stops one from repeating the same talking points ad nauseam. That's probably the most popular logical fallacy employed in internet debates and politics generally, though in this hooker forum the entire list is employed, and daily. LOL.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...-by-Repetition

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/logical-fallacies/

You've badly mischaracterized what I believe. In fact, you've got it completely backwards. Immigration's our hold card, in the battle to remain the preeminent world power. And we should compete for the best and the brightest, instead of telling them to take a hike. There should be more citizenship path visas for skilled people. A company trying to get an H1 B visa for an Indian engineer historically has had an uphill challenge. We also should provide a lot more visas for refugees. It's a travesty that some of the people who helped us most in Afghanistan and Syria are now persecuted. And I believe many who've suffered under totalitarian regimes like Cuba's and Venezuela's are refugees.

With regard to the unskilled and those who aren't refugees, I favor a guest worker program. Meaning you can't bring your kids, you don't get citizenship, and at some point you return to your country of origin.

The system we've got now, where you've got a lot of people entering illegally and a great burden placed on border communities, is not ideal.

As to the "Biden Recession", that was a dig at Tooms, who sounds like he believes recessions don't happen when a Democrat is president.

There's a good chance we'll go into a recession next year as a result of higher interest rates, to control inflation. Despite my beliefs about the American Rescue Plan I will not ascribe most, or even the majority of the blame for the recession to Biden.

And blaming recessions on the president is downright naive. To the extent that government has any control over the economic cycle, it's mostly in the hands of the Fed. What control does the chief executive, or the central bank (Fed) for that matter, have over whether there's a pandemic? Or whether OPEC decides to jack up oil prices? The timing of a dot com boom? Or, as an explanation of recessions in European countries, and a partial explanation of the upcoming Biden recession, a Russian invasion of Ukraine? Well, not a hell of a lot.

For a more detailed explanation of why Biden shouldn't own the recession see.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2775139.

As to the "wink" thing after the condescending comments, it doesn't really work. But I thank you for that anyway. I've been saying similar things to Tooms from time to time. And that's not befitting for the founder of the Free Markets Church of Tiny, who is trying to convert Democrats with a message of love and redemption. I resolve to post something today where I agree with Tooms.

[PVMonger]

More turgid wordsludge from PVMonger. Some things never change.

Is the Hunter Biden laptop a "conspiracy theory"? Even worse, was the coverup of the Hunter Biden laptop, in which alphabet agencies made noises about "RUSSIA!" and we now know, thanks to Elon Musk, that Big Tech worked with govt operatives to prevent the information from being transmitted, all a "conspiracy theory"?

Nope. It was fact. All happened.

Our side actually wants to get information out for people to see it. That's why LibsofTikTok is so popular with normal people, yet so unhingedly hated by the left: all she does is repost leftists saying openly what they plan to do (usually with regard to sexualising and / or mutilating children, which is a troubling obsession of theirs).

The censorship, as we are seeing from the Twitter Files, all comes from the left. Why do you think it is that your side is the one that wants to silence people and restrict information?

Some things never change.

Like your contention that Repubs want to "get information out for people to see it" but Dems / the media / the deep state / et cetera are "preventing them from getting the information out". What utter bullshit. You obviously have no idea how many thousands of people would have to be involved in such a massive coverup. People who, by your own admission, are stupid and greedy and incapable of keeping things to themselves have somehow managed to all band together to keep that information quiet. Talk about wordsludge!

What an absolutely ludicrous thought that there is a massive coverup involved. Yet you believe it. And you have the gall to call me an idiot?

But we all know how this is going to end in two years. The Repubs in Congress will spend two years wasting money in endless angertainment investigations only to find nothing (or close to it). Their base will expect some results and when none are forthcoming (like the Durham report), Repubs will quietly slink away to try to come up with the next big conspiracy theory. And, of course, beg for re-election by saying "Hey, we only had two years to investigate. The Dems stymied us by responding to our subpoenas and answering our questions. Don't fault us for not governing, except for passing another massive tax cut for the rich. Remember that those riches will 'trickle down' to you this time. But re-elect us and we promise to govern this time."

[Xpartan]

And I'll ask again, as you typically avoided the question last time: do you think Donald Trump is richer now than he would have been if he had never entered politics in 2015 and had instead continued to focus on his TV show, his businesses, and his many positive media appearances?

Really? And just pretend that you didn't say the dumbest thing I've seen on this forum in a long time -- that people who come from money don't care about money.

First, admit that it was dumb as fuck. Then we'll address your next "concern."

[Paulie97]

Right now there are a lot of jobs here that Americans just don't want to do.

It's been that way for ages and will only get worse as our entitled younger generations can't get their noses out of their smartphones long enough to flip a burger, mow a lawn, pick fruit, or install a roof on a hot day. Yes we have long needed unskilled labor from abroad and need more. Your idea about only allowing in doctors and nurses and the like is preposterous. Get out of your computer chair and typing essays here long enough to get out and have a look around and maybe you'll begin to get it. Wink.

P.S. It's equally silly to blame Biden for multi-causal economic woes that are consistent and worldwide. That notion has already been refuted here many times, but that seldom stops one from repeating the same talking points ad nauseam. That's probably the most popular logical fallacy employed in internet debates and politics generally, though in this hooker forum the entire list is employed, and daily. LOL.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...-by-Repetition

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/logical-fallacies/

[Xpartan]

Rather than whining and playing the tired and spurious white victimization card, people like Chris need to win these immigrants over to a conservative worldview. It's done all the time. This fatalism also ignores the reality of all the lazy, low IQ, criminal white losers in our country, much of those dipshits that invaded the Capital a case in point. Many also traveled there via government handouts, Covid small business relief swindles.

Tiny's right. No other misplaced Repub policy is as idiotic as their crusade against immigration. To Cubans and Nicaraguans I can add Russians, Ukrainians, and pretty much all other post-Soviet ethnic groups, plus Vietnamese, Chinese, and many others who come to the States to escape from communist or leftist regimes. For better or worse (worse!) the majority of these people are predisposed to conservativism, since they are trying to move as far from the left as humanly possible.

Funnily, a lot of Mexicans and other Latin America immigrants are natural conservatives as well, but that probably has more to do with their Catholic values than politics.

This dumb belief that every immigrant must be a catch for the Democratic party (probably because they're poor when they get here, LOL) is truly remarkable.

[EihTooms]

Well, we have his tax returns from the time he started his campaign up through his last full year in office. Here's his income or loss by year. Losses are in parentheses.

2015: (31,700,000)
2016: (32,200,000)
2017: (12,800,000)
2018: 24,400,000
2019: 4,440,000
2020: (4,690,000)

Net loss for 2015 to 2020: (52,550,000)

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/21/trum...w-report-.html

And that one big income year of 2018 was mostly due to his sale of the last of his daddy's properties he inherited:

Tax returns show Trump made millions from fathers legacy while his own properties flopped

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tax-r...224054562.html

The entirety of his income from real estate sales in 2018 actually came from properties passed down to Mr Trump through his father, Fred Trump. The bulk of it came from one sale, the May 2018 sale of a nearly 6,000-unit housing complex in Brooklyn known as Starrett City. It netted $905m on the market, of which Mr Trump reported roughly $14.8m in profits.

After he sold the last of his daddy's properties and some of his own failed properties, even as dumb as he is he knew the jig was up for him being tagged one of the worst businessmen of all time, should anyone take a gander at his tax returns.

That must have been around the time he decided to set the foundation for him leading an America-hating, Cop-killing Insurrection if he gets his ass kicked in 2020, which he did, and whip up his Big Lie about the election being stolen from him, a ploy he likely felt confident would easily con Repub hillbillies he had been "disgusted" by at his MAGA rallies into sending him large chunks of their entitlement checks.

The dude needed money. Badly.

[Tiny 12]

Most of the illegals pouring over Biden's open border are from third world countries with an average IQ well below 90; and they are the dumbest idiots who can't get a job in those third world countries so they are below average even there. The vast majority will be no good for anything but welfare or menial labor, and the effect of millions of them will simply continue dragging America down to the third world.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...-iq-by-country

I don't think illegal immigrants are necessarily stupid. But it seems to me that it would make a lot more sense to give priority to people with skills who will contribute the most to America, like nurses, engineers, doctors, mechanics and the like. That's what places like Canada and Australia do. They have a points system. If you get enough points, by virtue of skills, education, age, knowledge of English, etc., you get in. Instead, yes, we have too many unskilled people who enter illegally. And too many unskilled family members of immigrants who became citizens.

Please note that table dancing is a highly skilled profession. Latina strippers should be given priority. And also anyone who promises to vote for Republicans and Libertarians.

A guest worker program, that would not lead to citizenship or a right to reside permanently in the USA, might be a good idea for unskilled foreigners. Right now there are a lot of jobs here that Americans just don't want to do. Although that will change after the Biden Recession.

[Tiny 12]

do you think Donald Trump is richer now than he would have been if he had never entered politics in 2015 and had instead continued to focus on his TV show, his businesses, and his many positive media appearances?

Well, we have his tax returns from the time he started his campaign up through his last full year in office. Here's his income or loss by year. Losses are in parentheses.

2015: (31,700,000)
2016: (32,200,000)
2017: (12,800,000)
2018: 24,400,000
2019: 4,440,000
2020: (4,690,000)

Net loss for 2015 to 2020: (52,550,000)

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/21/trum...w-report-.html

[Chris P]

people like Chris need to win these immigrants over to a conservative worldview. It's done all the time.

It's done all the time? Really? Which immigrant group is majority conservative other than the Florida Cubans, whom I've addressed previously?

You can't convert low IQ people to a conservative worldview because they can't compete in a capitalist market. Hence they want government welfare handouts, affirmative action, racial grievance etc: the core democrat program.

Most of the illegals pouring over Biden's open border are from third world countries with an average IQ well below 90; and they are the dumbest idiots who can't get a job in those third world countries so they are below average even there. The vast majority will be no good for anything but welfare or menial labor, and the effect of millions of them will simply continue dragging America down to the third world.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...-iq-by-country

[Chris P]

I have no love for Hunter Biden. If he's guilty of something, charge him and move on. Don't try to compare anything he's done with what Trump and his cabal have done.

Low information reply.

First, the point was not merely the Hunter laptop, but the manner in which the fake news media, social media, and government agencies colluded in breach of the 1st Amendment to censor and silence the true story.

Second, it isn't about Hunter. He is just a druggie doofus. It is about how he was used as a bagman by his corrupt father to enrich himself by peddling influence. Ever wonder how Biden got so rich after a life as a government employee? "Ten percent for the Big Guy"! There is literally footage of Biden as VP boasting about threatening to withhold aid to Ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor investigating Hunter's corruption. And sure enough, they fired the guy!

If Trump and his family had done anything remotely as criminally egregious as the Bidens, they would all be in prison cells now.

Unfortunately, as we have seen with the failure to prosecute the violent far-left antifa / BLM terrorists who spent a year burning cities, attacking federal buildings (including the White House with the President inside), courthouses and police and causing billions of dollars in damage, contrasted with the unhinged Washington witchhunt to round up and jail every last grandma who wandered through open doors into the Capitol on Jan 6 (with the notable exception of Ray Epps), the "Justice" Department has become grossly politicised as in a banana republic and is no longer fit for purpose.

[MiamiSammy]

More turgid wordsludge from PVMonger. Some things never change.

Is the Hunter Biden laptop a "conspiracy theory"? Even worse, was the coverup of the Hunter Biden laptop, in which alphabet agencies made noises about "RUSSIA!" and we now know, thanks to Elon Musk, that Big Tech worked with govt operatives to prevent the information from being transmitted, all a "conspiracy theory"?

Nope. It was fact. All happened.

Our side actually wants to get information out for people to see it. That's why LibsofTikTok is so popular with normal people, yet so unhingedly hated by the left: all she does is repost leftists saying openly what they plan to do (usually with regard to sexualising and / or mutilating children, which is a troubling obsession of theirs).

The censorship, as we are seeing from the Twitter Files, all comes from the left. Why do you think it is that your side is the one that wants to silence people and restrict information?

I have no love for Hunter Biden. If he's guilty of something, charge him and move on. Don't try to compare anything he's done with what Trump and his cabal have done.

[Chris P]

How can anybody address your blablabla

More turgid wordsludge from PVMonger. Some things never change.

Is the Hunter Biden laptop a "conspiracy theory"? Even worse, was the coverup of the Hunter Biden laptop, in which alphabet agencies made noises about "RUSSIA!" and we now know, thanks to Elon Musk, that Big Tech worked with govt operatives to prevent the information from being transmitted, all a "conspiracy theory"?

Nope. It was fact. All happened.

Our side actually wants to get information out for people to see it. That's why LibsofTikTok is so popular with normal people, yet so unhingedly hated by the left: all she does is repost leftists saying openly what they plan to do (usually with regard to sexualising and / or mutilating children, which is a troubling obsession of theirs).

The censorship, as we are seeing from the Twitter Files, all comes from the left. Why do you think it is that your side is the one that wants to silence people and restrict information?

[Chris P]

I didn't know that about Blumenthal.

You left out our Plagiarizer and Chief, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

This is the first thing that pops up when you Google "Plagiarism Joe Biden", from the University of California Santa Barbara web site, and it's a Trump campaign press release.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/docu...ord-plagiarism

But glancing over it, I knew I made the right decision when I voted for Jo Jorgensen for president. Biden's downright nutty, to try to get away with all that. He even made up some fiction about having ancestors who "worked the coal mines of Northeast Pennsylvania and would come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours. " He pulled that from Neil Kinnock, a British politician. Biden never even had ancestors who worked in coal mines.

Biden may be worse than Santos. And he's president of the United States of America and the leader of the free world. Santos is a nobody.

Yes, despite what the main stream media would have you believe, there's no shortage of kooks and liars among the politicians who call themselves Democrats.

This is well documented, about Biden. Our Democrat friends should Google it if they don't believe me.

Good post.

The fact that you, clearly an intelligent and knowledgeable person, didn't even know about Blumenthal's lies and stolen valor over Vietnam is an indictment of the truly egregious bias of the mainstream fake news media.

If a right-wing figure had lied as he did, it would be brought up every time they were mentioned in the news. Children would think their name was "Vietnam Liar Senator Bla McBlaface".

In fact, the New York Times and others have acknowledged Blumenthal lied. Once. Tucked away at the bottom of page 78, and then never mentioned again.

That way, when challenged about their bias, they can claim "no, look. We reported it!" But of course it was "reported" once in an obscure manner and then forgotten, meaning that the majority of even well-informed people are probably not aware of it.

Ditto for Biden. The fake news will say that they reported Biden's lies when he spewed them. And then never mention them again. Lies of obfuscation and omission.

Of course, they are getting even worse these days, with the censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story which would have swung the election to Trump even with the vast amount of pro-Biden mail-in fraud that allowed them to steal it.

The Hunter Biden laptop story is a perfect microcosm of the parts of the Washington deep state working in conjunction. Mainstream and social media completely blacklist the story, to the extent that Twitter and Facebook actually blocked links of it from being posted, and Youtube prevented videos about it showing up in people's feeds. Meanwhile, the so-called intelligence alphabet agencies put out a fake statement about "Russian disinformation". And finally, the democrats and establishment RINOs refuse to hold the above to account in getting to the truth.

Later, after the election, it dribbles out that in fact the laptop was entirely genuine, but hey, whatever. Look over there, goyim!

[Chris P]

Pence's former top aide said......Former White House Press Secretary Told Jan. 6 Committee.....the report said.....

Ah, the media says that some Washington swamp creatures told them something about Trump. Must be true then.

To get back to reality, how about you have a go at why the democrats / media / alphabet agencies went so hard after the Gaetz nothingburger, yet haven't looked into the guest list on the island of Jeffrey Epstein, an acknowledged pe-do?

Why was the trial of his procurer, Ghislaine Maxwell, barely covered? Compare the intricate media reporting on every detail of, say, the Johnny Depp v Amber Heard trial with the absence of information about Maxwell. Why is the only high-profile figure who has gone down over this Prince Andrew of Great Britain? No investigations into any American guests of Epstein? Why, oh why?

Kinda like asking why leftists who spent a year violently burning, looting and attacking police and federal buildings in cities across the country, causing billions of dollars of damage and tens of deaths, are allowed to skate, while the alphabet agencies do the biggest investigation in history to track down and raid thousands of grandmas who walked through open doors into the People's House on Jan 6, took some photos and went home.