American Politics

[ScatManDoo]

There isn't going to be anyone thrown under the bus. There is nothing criminal here and history will prove it. A year from now nothing will have happened on this issue and you guys will still be talking about it still trying to distract from Biden destroying America. This is another democrat witch hunt distraction trying to get the attention off of Biden failures.

Among the charges Trump himself could be hit with are "criminal solicitation to commit election fraud", or.

Intentional interference with performance of election duties, or.

Conspiracy to commit election fraud, or.

Criminal solicitation, or.

State RICO violations.

And that is only concerning his actions regarding his fighting the correct election results only in the State of Georgia.

A different list exists for Wisconson, Pennsylvania, Arizona and even other states.

Donald Trump is a criminal and he belongs in jail.

[Cali Guy]

Already this year? "This year" as you put it, has been the whole 22 days, which happened to coincide with unprecedented rise of Omicron. Oh humanity!

When Covid began spreading, The Stable Genius lost 10,000 points, but that was fine by you, right?

When DJIA crashed 2,500 points in Jan 2018 were you concerned?

How about a 3,000 points plunge later in December? No Covid back then, huh?

Calling him a hack is unfair. I checked his link and found it credible. I think you should remove all recessions caused largely by external factors (Lincoln, Truman and Wilson should not be the part of this argument due to the magnitude of the calamities they had to deal with). But if you're objective, you'll still have to come to the same conclusion. Republican presidents HAVE PRESIDED over many more recessions than the Democrats. Sorry, but that's what the numbers tell you.

Now, these numbers may not be as straightforward as the OP sees them. There might be other factors that need to be taken into account. But at least his opinions are based on facts, while "opinions" of the likes of Elvis, Canada and that fake ex-Democrat over here, are based on -- wait, there is a scientific term for it, I think it's called brain fart..

I believe you that you are not a democrat. You are definitely a socialist. Your posts gave you away.

[Canada]

Already this year? "This year" as you put it, has been the whole 22 days, which happened to coincide with unprecedented rise of Omicron. Oh humanity!

When Covid began spreading, The Stable Genius lost 10,000 points, but that was fine by you, right?

When DJIA crashed 2,500 points in Jan 2018 were you concerned?

How about a 3,000 points plunge later in December? No Covid back then, huh?

Calling him a hack is unfair. I checked his link and found it credible. I think you should remove all recessions caused largely by external factors (Lincoln, Truman and Wilson should not be the part of this argument due to the magnitude of the calamities they had to deal with). But if you're objective, you'll still have to come to the same conclusion. Republican presidents HAVE PRESIDED over many more recessions than the Democrats. Sorry, but that's what the numbers tell you.

Now, these numbers may not be as straightforward as the OP sees them. There might be other factors that need to be taken into account. But at least his opinions are based on facts, while "opinions" of the likes of Elvis, Canada and that fake ex-Democrat over here, are based on -- wait, there is a scientific term for it, I think it's called brain fart..

Democrats are embarrassed by this presidency, the squad and political wokeness. The true democrats in congress are protecting us from socialism. Democratic Party has the presidency, the House and the senate and can't get anything done. They are trying to push a socialist agenda and the republicans and democrats aren't buying it. The American people aren't buying it.

[Xpartan]

Market is down 1500 points already this year. This must be the great democrat crash that you guys keep talking about.

Unfit for president because he Has Dementia!

Already this year? "This year" as you put it, has been the whole 22 days, which happened to coincide with unprecedented rise of Omicron. Oh humanity!

When Covid began spreading, The Stable Genius lost 10,000 points, but that was fine by you, right?

When DJIA crashed 2,500 points in Jan 2018 were you concerned?

How about a 3,000 points plunge later in December? No Covid back then, huh?

"Presided over?" Don't let Tooms frame the argument by selling you loaded terms. A number of Democratic presidents "presided over" recessions including Wilson, Truman, and Carter. Heck he even tries to blame Lincoln for the Civil War because he was a Republican, when there was nothing he could do otherwise besides let the southern states go. Tooms is a partisan hack loudly working day and month out with a false dichotomy, Democrats all good, Republicans all bad even stretching back to the Civil War. It's absurd, and betrays someone familiar with hack internet sources as opposed to history. I hate to agree with Elvis (Elvira) but he has him pegged on this one, though he is just as idiotic from the other angle.

Calling him a hack is unfair. I checked his link and found it credible. I think you should remove all recessions caused largely by external factors (Lincoln, Truman and Wilson should not be the part of this argument due to the magnitude of the calamities they had to deal with). But if you're objective, you'll still have to come to the same conclusion. Republican presidents HAVE PRESIDED over many more recessions than the Democrats. Sorry, but that's what the numbers tell you.

Now, these numbers may not be as straightforward as the OP sees them. There might be other factors that need to be taken into account. But at least his opinions are based on facts, while "opinions" of the likes of Elvis, Canada and that fake ex-Democrat over here, are based on -- wait, there is a scientific term for it, I think it's called brain fart.

And no, I'm not a Democrat, I've never been a Democrat, I don't believe that Democrats are blameless in all our ills, but that doesn't matter. The modern Republican Party is toxic, anti-democratic, and anti-American. Sorry, but faced with two evils, I choose the lesser one.

[Paulie97]

The 50's was a great era for unions, American industry, and growth of the American middle class, bottom line. I also told you about three Democratic presidents who had recessions or "crashes" if we want to use your partisan hyperbole. No amount of singing and dancing or repetition of the same tired phrases, "both siderism" (Yawns) will ever change that. Truth is truth.

P.S. Are you really living in the Land of Smiles? Assuming you have the disposable income to do so, why don't you take a break from the computer and your ad nauseamism and go get laid? Just a suggestion.

[PVMonger]

I am looking forward to seeing if Ivanka throws her Dad under the bus to save herself.

They gave her a very long letter hinting at what the committee knows she witnessed and wrote they want to confirm what she said (according to reports of others).

Assuming that Ivanka actually testifies, here's how the testimony will go:

Committee: "Is your name Ivanka Trump?

Ivanka: "I refuse to answer that question and I assert my 5th Amendment rights. "

Committee: "Is Donald J. Trump your father?

Ivanka: "I refuse to answer that question and I assert my 5th Amendment rights. "

Committee: "Were you in the White House on January 6th, 2021?

Ivanka: "I refuse to answer that question and I assert my 5th Amendment rights. "

Committee: asking questions 4 - ?

Ivanka: "I refuse to answer that question and I assert my 5th Amendment rights. "

We all need to remember that the one-term, twice-impeached orange clown said that only the mob uses the 5th Amendment and it makes them look guilty. Right, Canada?

[Canada]

As measured by the usual Wall Street and stock market investment industry standard S&P 500 Index, the market is currently down about 8.7% from its all-time record high close.

I wonder if we will finally hit at least one legitimate "Correction" level sometime soon. Which would be perfectly normal and, frankly, welcome after we've had some 70 all-time record high closes in just Biden's first year in office.

Oh, according to the 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, we're currently down 7. 2%, which is even further away from a useful, health-restoring "Correction" in the market.

BTW, was that where you got that "1500 points" number?

Well, if we're simply calculating from the first of this year, your way, the market is only down 3. 2% in the Dow and 7. 7% in the S&P, neither of which is nearly as terrifying as you presumably meant it to sound.

But I can't think of a very good reason to start calculating the rise or decline in the market starting from January 1 instead of from its recent all-time record closing high or low as would be done by anyone with as much instructive knowledge about the stock market as you purport to have..

The Dow is down 2100 points and 5.7% YTD. Please stop posting false numbers. It appears your only posts try to make Biden look better than the failure he is. With Biden trying to implement his policies this could get much worse. Fortunately there still are some smart democrats in congress keeping Biden disasters to a minimum.

[Canada]

I am looking forward to seeing if Ivanka throws her Dad under the bus to save herself.

They gave her a very long letter hinting at what the committee knows she witnessed and wrote they want to confirm what she said (according to reports of others).

There isn't going to be anyone thrown under the bus. There is nothing criminal here and history will prove it. A year from now nothing will have happened on this issue and you guys will still be talking about it still trying to distract from Biden destroying America. This is another democrat witch hunt distraction trying to get the attention off of Biden failures.

[Axel Heyst]

Politics should not be all black and white. Trump is evil. Biden is good. Therefore when a liberal or conservative speaks to truth it should be noted.

https://youtu.be/8bQ2rctogOs

[EihTooms]

"Presided over?" Don't let Tooms frame the argument by selling you loaded terms. A number of Democratic presidents "presided over" recessions including Wilson, Truman, and Carter. Heck he even tries to blame Lincoln for the Civil War because he was a Republican, when there was nothing he could do otherwise besides let the southern states go. Tooms is a partisan hack loudly working day and month out with a false dichotomy, Democrats all good, Republicans all bad even stretching back to the Civil War. It's absurd, and betrays someone familiar with hack internet sources as opposed to history. I hate to agree with Elvis (Elvira) but he has him pegged on this one, though he is just as idiotic from the other angle.

BTW, Eisenhower's 3 Recessions, the third one beginning in 1960, however mild and unnoticed by you, accompanied one of the most "atrocious" jobs growth records of all time for any president. Which was not the case for either of the presidents in office in 1945 and post-WWII 1948. And most definitely not the case for the historically brief one that began under Carter, who was saddled with huge inflation challenges.

See, the term "presided over" is extremely useful in assessing what a POTUS does in response to Recessionary conditions. So we not only need to mark when 13 of the 17 Recessions of the past 100 years began, sorry Woodrow, but what did or didn't the POTUS do about it.

Clearly, the WWII, post-WWII and high unemployment rate plus "Long National Nightmare" conditions Carter inherited from Nixon / Ford along with the rising inflation problem were far more challenging than anything in the economy facing Eisenhower in 1953.

History then shows in addition to the 3 Recessions that began on his watch, he "presided" over one of the lowest and most "atriocious" 8 year average annual jobs growth percetages ever.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs...idential_terms

[EihTooms]

Market is down 1500 points already this year. This must be the great democrat crash that you guys keep talking about.

Unfit for president because he Has Dementia!

As measured by the usual Wall Street and stock market investment industry standard S&P 500 Index, the market is currently down about 8.7% from its all-time record high close.

I wonder if we will finally hit at least one legitimate "Correction" level sometime soon. Which would be perfectly normal and, frankly, welcome after we've had some 70 all-time record high closes in just Biden's first year in office.

Oh, according to the 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, we're currently down 7. 2%, which is even further away from a useful, health-restoring "Correction" in the market.

BTW, was that where you got that "1500 points" number?

Well, if we're simply calculating from the first of this year, your way, the market is only down 3. 2% in the Dow and 7. 7% in the S&P, neither of which is nearly as terrifying as you presumably meant it to sound.

But I can't think of a very good reason to start calculating the rise or decline in the market starting from January 1 instead of from its recent all-time record closing high or low as would be done by anyone with as much instructive knowledge about the stock market as you purport to have.

What was your reasoning for doing it that way?

Well, actually, talking about these things in terms of "points" instead of percentages isn't very useful anyway. Particularly when we're talking about a market that has been growing in points for many, many decades.

You know how that works, right? For example, a market decline of, say, "3 points" from an all-time record high close of 6 points in an Index is much, much scarier and worse than a decline of 3,000 points in an Index that reached an all-time record high close of 36,952.

See what I mean? Just sayin'.

[PVMonger]

Market is down 1500 points already this year. This must be the great democrat crash that you guys keep talking about.

Unfit for president because he Has Dementia!

Biden has dementia? The great Dr. Canada speaks. Of course he can't provide anybody with a copy of his MD or anything else. I wonder why that is? Probably because "everybody knows" (which is his nonsensical answer to virtually everything).

[ScatManDoo]

There is nothing there. Nothing will happen to Trump on the January 6 protest and you will still be talking about it next year while Biden destroys America.

I am looking forward to seeing if Ivanka throws her Dad under the bus to save herself.

They gave her a very long letter hinting at what the committee knows she witnessed and wrote they want to confirm what she said (according to reports of others).

[Paulie97]

"Presided over?" Don't let Tooms frame the argument by selling you loaded terms. A number of Democratic presidents "presided over" recessions including Wilson, Truman, and Carter. Heck he even tries to blame Lincoln for the Civil War because he was a Republican, when there was nothing he could do otherwise besides let the southern states go. Tooms is a partisan hack loudly working day and month out with a false dichotomy, Democrats all good, Republicans all bad even stretching back to the Civil War. It's absurd, and betrays someone familiar with hack internet sources as opposed to history. I hate to agree with Elvis (Elvira) but he has him pegged on this one, though he is just as idiotic from the other angle.

[EihTooms]

Of course, as recessions often follow wars. Yet the same benefit of the doubt isn't given to Dwight after the end of the Korean War. Instead we get all the hubris "atrocious, etc." You are pretty much in the same vein as Canada and his various other names, but from the other side. And it's rather irrelevant as the audience is rather small, a sex forum, and in a thread tucked away where few know about it.

You consider Eisenhower's 3 Recessions, the third one beginning in 1960, to be the result of the USA retooling and resetting in the aftermath of the Korean War in any way similar to the way we did for WWII?

You further assert that I listed any of Eisenhower's 3 Recessions in his 8 years in office among the half dozen or so Great Repub Recessions of the past 100 years?

And you conjured up all that in order to "Bothsider" me pretty much the same as someone who claims there were no Recessions and no Bear Market Crashes under any Repub in the past 50 years, nor has Biden's policies created any jobs but Trump's economic decisions and results were much better.

Uh. Ok.

I submit this to the court as Exhibit A for how "Bothsiderism" exists solely to help the utterly wrongheaded look like a reasonable option, perhaps worth no less consideration than a coin flip in a voting booth, inevitably giving them at least a 50-50 shot at producing more of their patented disastrous results.