American Politics

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://dailystormer.in/jewish-yelle...o-jewish-wars/

https://dailystormer.in/putin-counte...otally-failed/

Didn't Nutty Nancy and the house Dems help torpedo McCarthy LMAOOOOOO.

Maybe they should all vote for Jordan Thursday LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[EihTooms]

"Did he mention that Joe Biden is not the president of any of those countries, that America was actively at war on foreign soil for every minute of every hour of Trump's so-called presidency and that more Americans were killed in that foreign conflict on Trump's watch than have been killed in any foreign conflict on Biden's watch?

Yep. Thanks, Joe. "

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/su...18/id/1138831/

As of this writing, even the demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP Consensus of Polls shows the trend heading in the opposite direction of a couple of recent outlier polls, that CNBC poll being one of them. See the screenshot below. Trump's statistically tied momentary lead over Biden has evaporated to an actual tie:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-7383.html

Also, you're so happy that somebody's money is paying for your access to NYT articles, but I don't recall you posting a link to this one 2-3 weeks ago:

Americans Are Down on Biden. Why Does His Party Keep Winning Elections?
Despite a flood of negative polls for Democrats, the party has delivered a string of strong results in special elections, which can be a useful gauge of the national political environment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/u...ons-biden.html

Sept. 26,2023.

For nearly two years, poll after poll has found Americans in a sour mood about President Biden, uneasy about the economy and eager for younger leaders of the country.

And yet when voters have actually cast ballots, Democrats have delivered strong results in special elections the sort of contests that attract little attention but can serve as a useful gauge for voter enthusiasm.

In special elections this year for state legislative offices, Democrats have exceeded Mr. Bidens performance in the 2020 presidential election in 21 of 27 races, topping his showing by an average of seven percentage points, according to a study conducted by the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, the partys campaign arm for state legislative races.

Those results, combined with an 11-point triumph for a liberal State Supreme Court candidate in Wisconsin this spring and a 14-point defeat of an Ohio ballot referendum this summer in a contest widely viewed as a proxy battle over abortion rights, run counter to months of public opinion polling that has found Mr. Biden to be deeply unpopular heading into his re-election bid next year.

Taken together, these results suggest that the favorable political environment for Democrats since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade has endured through much of 2023. Democratic officials have said since the summer of 2022, when the ruling came down, that abortion is both a powerful motivator for the partys voters and the topic most likely to persuade moderate Republicans to vote for Democratic candidates.

Now, this begs the questions, why are Dem respondents to these polls like that CNBC poll so "down" on Biden, yet at crunch time in the Midterms and so many special elections since will come out in huge numbers to vote for his Party candidates, defying what they say in the polls and apparently not really blaming him or his Party for the fact that a subway token no longer costs a nickle and, most important, how does their polling sentiment pertain to what they will actually do when faced with a Trump vs Biden ballot in 2024.

As a lifelong since age 18 registered Democrat, I feel fairly confident to hazard an informed opinion on that. But I am just curious to know if you or anyone else here has an explanation for that phenomenon.

[EihTooms]

"Did he mention that Joe Biden is not the president of any of those countries, that America was actively at war on foreign soil for every minute of every hour of Trump's so-called presidency and that more Americans were killed in that foreign conflict on Trump's watch than have been killed in any foreign conflict on Biden's watch?

Yep. Thanks, Joe."

Weakness attracts aggression.

Thank Dirty Joe.

He's way too busy shuffling all his stolen loot, and directing the DOJ to protect the junkie.

Hopefully Jordan gets the gavel and impeaches the "Dirty shit stain" already!

BTW, in addition to America being actively engaged in a ground war on foreign soil for every minute of every hour of Trump's so called presidency even after he weakly surrendered 100% to every Taliban demand and timetable, did that idiot Repub Senator also mention that the seat of democracy was invaded by a violent, cop-attacking, cop-killing and murderous mob of anti-America, America-hating Terrorists right in the USA on January 6, 2021?

Now, I know your beloved Repubs have forever been afflicted with a peculiar form of selective amnesia, but as I recall your "strong" lord and savior was so-called potus on January 6, 2021 and not Joe Biden, right?

Please remind us what "strength" Trump projected and demonstrated to prevent America from being attacked by a violent mob of anti-America, America-hating terrorists right on American soil, in fact the soil on which the seat of American democracy resides, in order to overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy?

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Did he mention that Joe Biden is not the president of any of those countries, that America was actively at war on foreign soil for every minute of every hour of Trump's so-called presidency and that more Americans were killed in that foreign conflict on Trump's watch than have been killed in any foreign conflict on Biden's watch?

Yep. Thanks, Joe. "

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/su...18/id/1138831/

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Did he mention that Joe Biden is not the president of any of those countries, that America was actively at war on foreign soil for every minute of every hour of Trump's so-called presidency and that more Americans were killed in that foreign conflict on Trump's watch than have been killed in any foreign conflict on Biden's watch?

Yep. Thanks, Joe."

Weakness attracts aggression.

Thank Dirty Joe.

He's way too busy shuffling all his stolen loot, and directing the DOJ to protect the junkie.

Hopefully Jordan gets the gavel and impeaches the "Dirty shit stain" already!

[SubCmdr]

Finally, amid the pissing contests and dead horses being flogged here a subject dear to my heart is mentioned. The noble beasts, the American and European woods bison, which are growing in numbers. I buy bison meat. 10% fat and tasty indeed. My mate buys lotto tickets in Uk. Myself in USA. The proceeds from the jackpot will fund bison & other wildlife habitat and our hobby finding working girls for hire. Each of my long time concubines will benefit greatly for years of reliable service and possible friendship, in my mind, at least.

That is what I am talking about. While in the USA I never bought bison meat. But when it was on the menu of a restaurant I was dining at I always ordered. Very tasty indeed. And the availability is way too rare for my tastes.

Since I have been in Thailand I have had the opportunity to eat Australian imported beef. Far superior to the beef produced in the USA (my personal tastes). And I always order it here when given the opportunity. I hope you pick the right numbers and are able to live an entirely new level of your best life possible. Keep hope alive!

[Tiny 12]

Finally, amid the pissing contests and dead horses being flogged here....

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QgNzTN-STA

[Beijing4987]

Finally, amid the pissing contests and dead horses being flogged here a subject dear to my heart is mentioned. The noble beasts, the American and European woods bison, which are growing in numbers. I buy bison meat. 10% fat and tasty indeed. My mate buys lotto tickets in Uk. Myself in USA. The proceeds from the jackpot will fund bison & other wildlife habitat and our hobby finding working girls for hire. Each of my long time concubines will benefit greatly for years of reliable service and possible friendship, in my mind, at least.

[EihTooms]

Hi Spidy, I'm not gaslighting you. I'm deprogramming you. Either your memory failed you in your original post on the "trillion dollar" coin, or you're living in some kind of Orwellian world where night is day and yes means no. I'm almost sure it's the former, but figure a little deprogramming never hurt no one, so why not just in case.

Here's Carlos Mucha's twitter thread, which I posted earlier to show why I believe he's a Democrat.

https://twitter.com/mucha_carlos?lang=en

He suggested Democrats scour Georgia for eligible but not registered voters before the Senate runoffs; believed Proposition 13 in California was a bad idea; believed illegal immigrant children separated from their parents deserve a break; heartily approved of a Lincoln Project commercial to
"push every button in Trump's abnormal brain";wanted Speaker Pelosi to require House members to wear masks; is on Ukraine's side in the war; believed Biden should push a plan to encourage younger people to vote; praises government for GPS, Medicare, the FDIC, and providing electricity and criticizes those who associate that with socialism; favors measures to prevent climate change; favored "AmeriCare", which would be akin to Medicare for All; praised a Capitol policeman who protected Congressmen on January 6; favored body cams for "every interaction" with the public; was a fan of Modern Monetary Theoryfavored fair treatment of Palestinians in the workplace; believed in N-95, KN-95 and KF-94 masks believed that it's shocking that no one credits socialism for the great success of GPS which he believes is a great example of government working efficiently and competently; couldn't believe people are trying to put Trump back in the White House; said "it's crazy that a 3% wealth tax on billionaires is politically unthinkable yet there's already a 100% estate tax on the poor and nobody cares" and said "McConnell has learned through years of experience that neither he nor the GOP Senate Caucus will ever pay a political price for obstructing a Democratic President & then blaming them for not getting anything done".

Like my daddy said, "if it looks like a Democrat, and it walks like a Democrat, and it quacks like a Democrat, well then, it's a Democrat. " I actually agree with some of those tweets. But you'd be hard pressed to label the man as a Republican when you look at the totality of what he's said. Maybe he was a Libertarian who voted for Ron Paul. There are left leaning Libertarians. Tooms is a Democrat who I believe voted for Ronald Reagan.

And in any event you and Tooms are using trivia about the "progenitor" to mask your original claim that somehow it's Republicans who were foolishly using the platinum trillion dollar coin to bypass Republican opposition to the increasing the debt ceiling. That just doesn't make much sense. And I wouldn't care whether the statement that he's a republican came from someone quoted in the left-biased New York Magazine's Intelligencer or the right-biased New York Post. Mucha's political beliefs aren't consistent with a Republican's. Tooms admits as much in his last post.

If there is any evidence whatsoever that today Beowolf / Carlos Mucha is a "Bothsider / Neithersider" or has since 2000 endorsed or promoted a Third Party candidate then he is essentially a Repub supporter and voter regardless what his registered Party affiliation turns out to be.

The same as Bill Maher. And you.

[Tiny 12]

That is right Tiny12. Real men know how to handle their business. You are a fellow man in the arena. And we know the critics do not count.

I happen to know an ex-pat from USA that has a wife, child and built a country complex near where his wife is from. Does not care that is in here name. Chump change to him. Some of us have it. Some of us don't. My farm plans are to raise buffalo. The kind you eat, not the ones that post on ISG. We have enough of them already. 555.

Best of luck Commander. Buffalo is tasty, and healthier than beef.

[Tiny 12]

And by the way, the New York magazine article says Mucha wouldn't confirm or discuss his political affiliation. You cut off your quote just before that part. Furthermore Rohan Grey, who said Mucha was a Republican who voted for Ron Paul, is a progressive advocate of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). He would possibly think you and Tooms are Republicans. At least you two think MMT is just as nutty as I do, or you wouldn't be criticizing the trillion dollar platinum coin. Finally what's the title of the article? "The Man Who Invented the Trillion Dollar Coin. " The man is Carlos Mucha, not Bo what's his name.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"I wanted to circle-back to your opening line and add some additional thoughts, to my previous post, as a separate, but inclusive response / post:

You Said:

First, I'm sure many of us, mongers on this ISG forum, at one time or another, have been called "sexual freaks" (naturally from the women and girls we've seen and been with over the years). And I'm sure we all, still consider ourselves to be "good people"around kids. So is that really a good metric or criteria you want to "hang your hat on" when it comes to hanging around children?

Secondly, while I acknowledge that your entitled to feel the way you do, I think your outrage, hate or dislike towards StoryBook Hour (SBH) readings, is misplaced, unfounded and simply I feel, is just overblown right-wing media hype and propaganda.

If the parents of the kids see fit to take their kids to a SBH reading hour, who are you to say otherwise? Conversely, while I may find parents who take their kids to a "Nazi" style book-ban / book-burning event / protest, very distasteful, disgusting, immoral, unethical, stupid and pathetic, (and / or the left) will still defend their right to do so.

Thirdly, when you consider the millions of sexual abuse cases, against a trusted and venerated institution, that the right hold very dear to their identity, you begin to understand behind the right-wing's hate for SBH reading hour.

It's appalling and staggering, at the amount of empirical data, papers, articles, documented and reported cases of the church's sex abuses worldwide, spanning decades, that have directly (and / or indirectly), led to the ruining of millions of lives. So forgive me if I find, the right-wing attacks on SBH readings, just a bunch of sanctimonious BS.

May I suggest, you should be than your kids attending a (albeit prenatally supervised) SBH reading. ".

[Tiny 12]

Hi Spidy, I'm not gaslighting you. I'm deprogramming you. Either your memory failed you in your original post on the "trillion dollar" coin, or you're living in some kind of Orwellian world where night is day and yes means no. I'm almost sure it's the former, but figure a little deprogramming never hurt no one, so why not just in case.

Here's Carlos Mucha's twitter thread, which I posted earlier to show why I believe he's a Democrat.

https://twitter.com/mucha_carlos?lang=en

He suggested Democrats scour Georgia for eligible but not registered voters before the Senate runoffs; believed Proposition 13 in California was a bad idea; believed illegal immigrant children separated from their parents deserve a break; heartily approved of a Lincoln Project commercial to "push every button in Trump's abnormal brain";wanted Speaker Pelosi to require House members to wear masks; is on Ukraine's side in the war; believed Biden should push a plan to encourage younger people to vote; praises government for GPS, Medicare, the FDIC, and providing electricity and criticizes those who associate that with socialism; favors measures to prevent climate change; favored "AmeriCare", which would be akin to Medicare for All; praised a Capitol policeman who protected Congressmen on January 6; favored body cams for "every interaction" with the public; was a fan of Modern Monetary Theory; favored fair treatment of Palestinians in the workplace; believed in N-95, KN-95 and KF-94 masks;[b] believed that it's shocking that no one credits socialism for the great success of GPS which he believes is a great example of government working efficiently and competently; couldn't believe people are trying to put Trump back in the White House; said "it's crazy that a 3% wealth tax on billionaires is politically unthinkable yet there's already a 100% estate tax on the poor and nobody cares" ;and said "McConnell has learned through years of experience that neither he nor the GOP Senate Caucus will ever pay a political price for obstructing a Democratic President & then blaming them for not getting anything done".

Like my daddy said, "if it looks like a Democrat, and it walks like a Democrat, and it quacks like a Democrat, well then, it's a Democrat. " I actually agree with some of those tweets. But you'd be hard pressed to label the man as a Republican when you look at the totality of what he's said. Maybe he was a Libertarian who voted for Ron Paul. There are left leaning Libertarians. Tooms is a Democrat who I believe voted for Ronald Reagan.

And in any event you and Tooms are using trivia about the "progenitor" to mask your original claim that somehow it's Republicans who were foolishly using the platinum trillion dollar coin to bypass Republican opposition to the increasing the debt ceiling. That just doesn't make much sense. And I wouldn't care whether the statement that he's a republican came from someone quoted in the left-biased New York Magazine's Intelligencer or the right-biased New York Post. Mucha's political beliefs aren't consistent with a Republican's. Tooms admits as much in his last post.

[EihTooms]

ACT 3:

Thirdly, (for those of you still reading) what if I were to tell you, Tiny 12's "Democrat patsy", is indeed a REPUBLICAN! Carlos Mucha aka.Beowulf, the Altanta Lawyer is a REPUBLICAN!.

Here, undeniable/irrefutable evidence, he's as REPUBLICAN, as pimple on Mitch's ass:


Gaslighting, may NOT be your thing, Tiny 12? You obviously didn't read this Intelligencer article I posted earlier, as it would have saved you from "foot-in-mouth". But here we are!

The Intelligencer, clearly identifies Carlos Mucha aka.Beowulf, as a REPUBLICAN. You, yourself proclaim him as the progenitor/creator of the coin idea (ONLY because you thought he was a Democrat).

So thanks to your "two nobodies" post, I began looking at the creator of the coin idea, not as singular creator, but rather as creators of the coin idea.

Now that we have established, Beowulf is Republican and a progenitor/creator of the coin idea, I designated him as exhibit (1b), as one part of the two (2) headed monster (as it were).

Again, thanks to EihTooms and another Tiny 12 post, from which I took evidence from both their Wikipedia links (both below), to again show and create exhibit (1a) and corresponding correlation to exhibit (1b).

It bears repeating again. EihTooms, was spot on when he said:


EihTooms, correctly identified Mr. Bo Gritz, as the earliest known progenitor/creator of the coin idea. I designated him as exhibit (1a).

Here exhibit (1a) and (1b) are linked to coin idea/concept, using Tiny 12's very own Wiki link from one of his early posts:


Wikipedia skillfully links, the connection between Bo Gritz, first introducing the concept when he held up "a five-inch example" of the coin, to the "specific concept" of the idea that was introduced by Carlos Mucha. The two men are inextricably linked and connected to the creation of the coin idea/concept.

If I recall, you said, "...I doubt Beowulf and his band of brothers had ever heard of Bo Gritz. And from my post you should know I think it's a nutty idea...to pawn the blame off on anyone but a Democrat.". Well, it's funny how, when actually meaningful FACTS are presented, it just amazing whom really sounds "nutty".

Conclusions:

From ACTs 1 thru 3, the evidence provided, incontrovertibly shows, Bo Gritz and Carlos Mucha aka.Beowulf, are inextricably linked as the progenitors/creators of the coin idea.

Mr. Gritz and Mr. Mucha, are linked as "closet" Republican (exhibit 1a) and Republican (exhibit 1b), respectively. They are very much at the genesis/center of the trillion dollar coin idea, despite, your attempt to gaslight them, by implying they were "nobodies", only emboldened me to dig further, for the truth and real FACTS. Well you were very wrong about these so called "nobodies"!

So take your pick, Tiny 12...Republican 1a or 1b (or both as I have done), makes no difference, as all roads (ie. FACTS/truths), lead to REPUBLICANS, as the creators of the coin idea!

Most assuredly, I can now proclaim (for the very first time), the progenitor(s)/creator(s) of the trillion dollar coin idea is/are indeed REPUBLICAN(S) (or if you prefer,conservative right wingers).


End of ACT 3 of 3

PS: I could have gone for the short version, but this was wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more fun, uncovering yet another REPUBLICAN at the center of "nutty", but not yet dismissed idea!

At least Republican lawyer Beowolf was willing to consider a silly but relatively benign response and remedy to his Repub Party's repeated spectacularly disastrous threats to default on the massive debts and deficits that their repeatedly spectacularly disastrous policies and stewardship has wrought over the decades.

Which suggests at least a trace of "Dem" in him somewhere. Traditionally, Repubs oppose ANY response or remedy for their horrific policy and stewardship ideas and results unless it is certain to produce far worse results than the ones they created.

So it is refreshing to discover one (1) Repub who found in him the courage to consider a remedy that is merely silly and benign compared to the colossal damage his Repub Party had hoped to inflict on the country and the rest of the planet with their repeated threats.

[Spidy]

ACT 3:

Thirdly, (for those of you still reading) what if I were to tell you, Tiny 12's "Democrat patsy", is indeed a REPUBLICAN! Carlos Mucha aka.Beowulf, the Altanta Lawyer is a REPUBLICAN!.

Here, undeniable/irrefutable evidence, he's as REPUBLICAN, as pimple on Mitch's ass:

I know hes not as progressive as the MMT economists, Grey said. Carlos [Mucha] is a Republican lawyer from Georgia who voted for Ron Paul. And I like him, were friends.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023...llar-coin.html

---In the article, his good friend, rats him out. Not to mention the dude, voted for Ron Paul, which is about as "Republican" as it gets....kkkk!

Gaslighting, may NOT be your thing, Tiny 12? You obviously didn't read this Intelligencer article I posted earlier, as it would have saved you from "foot-in-mouth". But here we are!

The Intelligencer, clearly identifies Carlos Mucha aka.Beowulf, as a REPUBLICAN. You, yourself proclaim him as the progenitor/creator of the coin idea (ONLY because you thought he was a Democrat).

So thanks to your "two nobodies" post, I began looking at the creator of the coin idea, not as singular creator, but rather as creators of the coin idea.

Now that we have established, Beowulf is Republican and a progenitor/creator of the coin idea, I designated him as exhibit (1b), as one part of the two (2) headed monster (as it were).

Again, thanks to EihTooms and another Tiny 12 post, from which I took evidence from both their Wikipedia links (both below), to again show and create exhibit (1a) and corresponding correlation to exhibit (1b).

It bears repeating again. EihTooms, was spot on when he said:

Spidy, you are closer to being right about that than is Tiny.

Neither a Dem nor Paul Krugman came up with the idea.

It was Bo Gritz in 1992, a Third Party candidate Tiny would have loved given his Third Party affiliation while maintaining a demonstrably pro Repub stance and agenda:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Gritz

EihTooms, correctly identified Mr. Bo Gritz, as the earliest known progenitor/creator of the coin idea. I designated him as exhibit (1a).

Here exhibit (1a) and (1b) are linked to coin idea/concept, using Tiny 12's very own Wiki link from one of his early posts:

Emergence of the Concept: The idea for the Treasury Department to mint a coin and send it to the Federal Reserve to pay off the debt was first popularized by Populist Party [conservative right-wing] presidential candidate Bo Gritz in 1992. As a standard part of his stump speeches, he would hold up a five-inch example coin. The specific concept was first introduced by Carlos Mucha, a lawyer who commented under the name "beowulf" on various blogs. ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillion-dollar_coin ...

Wikipedia skillfully links, the connection between Bo Gritz, first introducing the concept when he held up "a five-inch example" of the coin, to the "specific concept" of the idea that was introduced by Carlos Mucha. The two men are inextricably linked and connected to the creation of the coin idea/concept.

If I recall, you said, "...I doubt Beowulf and his band of brothers had ever heard of Bo Gritz. And from my post you should know I think it's a nutty idea...to pawn the blame off on anyone but a Democrat.". Well, it's funny how, when actually meaningful FACTS are presented, it just amazing whom really sounds "nutty".

Conclusions:

From ACTs 1 thru 3, the evidence provided, incontrovertibly shows, Bo Gritz and Carlos Mucha aka.Beowulf, are inextricably linked as the progenitors/creators of the coin idea.

Mr. Gritz and Mr. Mucha, are linked as "closet" Republican (exhibit 1a) and Republican (exhibit 1b), respectively. They are very much at the genesis/center of the trillion dollar coin idea, despite, your attempt to gaslight them, by implying they were "nobodies", only emboldened me to dig further, for the truth and real FACTS. Tiny 12, I think, when you gaslight your own findings, w/r these so called "nobodies", was an obvious dead-give-away. Thanks!

So take your pick, Tiny 12...Republican 1a or 1b (or both as I have done), makes no difference, as all roads (ie. FACTS/truths), lead to REPUBLICANS, as the creators of the coin idea!

Most assuredly, I can now proclaim (for the very first time), the progenitor(s)/creator(s) of the trillion dollar coin idea is/are indeed REPUBLICAN(S) (or if you prefer, conservative right wingers).


End of ACT 3 of 3

PS: I could have gone for the short version, but this was wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more fun, uncovering yet another REPUBLICAN at the center of "nutty", but not yet dismissed idea!