American Politics

[PVMonger]

Biden claims oil companies are gouging Americans. Gas in Wyoming last week $3. 29 a gallon, gas in Houston $2.99 a gallon, gas in Tucson, AZ $3.19 a gallon. All republican areas. Gas in Las Vegas $5.19. Gas in Barstow, Ca $6.79. Democrat areas. Why is gas 80 to 100 percent higher in dem run cities? Trying to force people to buy electric cars? Yes stupidity at its finest as the dumbest people in America voted for these dems.

The mayor of Houston (Sylvester Turner) is a Republican? Really? Did he switch sides yesterday? Or did he switch sides after reading your horseshit post? Regina Romero (Mayor of Tucson) is a Republican too? Did she switch parties along with Turner?

You said this: "Why is gas 80 to 100 percent higher in dem run cities?

The one thing we can count on you for is not doing any research before you bloviate. Smdh.

[MarquisdeSade1]

The left is always the beneficiary of these fake polls.

So I'm guessing its deliberate, so that when "election" day rolls around they can "cover up" their cheating.

When something like this happens with Lula for some reason the right hand and the left hand didn't match up.

And you have a huge discrepancy.

Political 3 card Monte!

Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.

[Spidy]

Here comes Uncle Sam and Sleep Joe to the rescue again.

I hear Biden has already assured doughy, infantile Ron "no Federal aid for Hurricane Sandy" DeSantis that real tax payers in responsible states like New York and California will pick up the tab for his massive shortfall on this. ...

We'll see how inflation goes for those Repub areas when they get their wish to have all these issues taken care of and paid for from "smaller government" city, state and local tills and pay full boat to their ever popular private sector businesses from now on.

Darn it!

I was just about to report on this very same topic, w/r to PVMongers post on "red states" and you beat me to punch...WELL DONE!

Great post!

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.breitbart.com/news/brazi...nst-bolsonaro/

Polls had Lula winning by 10-15%.

Fake polls don't work LMAO.

The left is always the beneficiary of these fake polls.

So I'm guessing its deliberate, so that when "election" day rolls around they can "cover up" their cheating.

When something like this happens with Lula for some reason the right hand and the left hand didn't match up.

And you have a huge discrepancy.

Political 3 card Monte!

[EihTooms]

Damn it Tooms, I'm trying to cut back on posting here. But you're making it hard. Real hard.

They don't want you to look at the details, as long as you believe "Democrat Good, Republican Bad", they're happy.

Aaagh! The TCJA took effect on January 1, 2018. Employment grew by 2.7 million in 2018 and 2.1 million 2019. Then COVID hit. If I may be allowed to cherry pick, like you and your left of center media sources do, the average growth per year in employment during Obama's administration was 1. 4 million..

Oh, the TCJA took effect on January 1, 2018? Then your boy Trump's one and only economic "stimulus" legislation reduced the unemployment rate a whopping 0. 4 percentage points from 3.9%, where his coasting on the Obama-Biden economy brought it down to by December 2017, to 3.5% several months later.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

And for that we paid $2.5+ Trillion? How many people did it effect to make that dramatic move? 150? That must have been the number of new Fact Checkers the networks had to hire in order to keep up with Trump's 30,000+ lies.

In 2012, MittWitt Romney assured America that his superior Repub economic policies would get the unemployment rate to 6% in four years if we would only put him in the WH to do it.

Obama-Biden got it below 6% in less than two years.

So it's "baloney" that the USA government is "people"? How about corporations? Are they "people" but the USA government of, by and for We, The People is not?

Weepy Boehner was the one making the Repub case that business owners were the "job creators", a position that fuels his Party's lamebrain notion that Supply-Side / Trickle-Down tax and economic policy creates more jobs than the Dems' alternative even though it never has for almost 100 years.

Yeah, I am fine with Obama's take on it that corporations and business owners couldn't build anything without the economic infrastructure built by all taxpayers, not just them, and paying customers.

[Canada]

Biden's plan to curtail inflation not working. Gas just went up to $6. 59 a gallon in San Diego today. Over $7 in some areas of California. Biden continues to spend tax payer dollars on giveaways and inflation rising. Idiots are still talking about Trump and past presidents while America suffers. Biden stupidly and incompetence may have USA equal the recession of the 1930's. The worst president ever and he hasn't a clue. Just like the idiots talking about the past. The past looks great with past republican or democrat presidents compared to todays leadership and the future looks even worse. Republicans are smart enough to acknowledge that Biden is a disaster. Several democrats admit USA is in trouble. The idiot socialists keep trying to talk nonsense thinking that Biden disasters will improve on their own. Stupidity at its finest.

Biden claims oil companies are gouging Americans. Gas in Wyoming last week $3. 29 a gallon, gas in Houston $2.99 a gallon, gas in Tucson, AZ $3.19 a gallon. All republican areas. Gas in Las Vegas $5.19. Gas in Barstow, Ca $6.79. Democrat areas. Why is gas 80 to 100 percent higher in dem run cities? Trying to force people to buy electric cars? Yes stupidity at its finest as the dumbest people in America voted for these dems.

[Spidy]

The QAnon/Repub/Bothsidesism talk about Dems supports being dumber than Biden, for several manufactured so called reasons, is just hilarious.

Let's for a moment entertain that notion (and play devil's advocate) and give the Repubs the benefit of the doubt, and said dumbness from the Dems were true, it still wouldn't mount to a hill of beans, over Donnie "the Devil" J. Dommkopf, fleecing his gullible, brain dead, dumb supporters/donors into welfare, hardship and saving account depletion.

How quickly the QAnon/Repub/Bothsidesists, forget "the devil" saying, he loves "the uneducated". I wonder why that is? (....kkkk!). I guess ignorance is bliss.

https://onlysky.media/rsnedeker/igno...rump-education

No amount of dumbness on behalf of Dems will ever surpass the QAnon/Repub/Bothsidesism dumb-dumbs, getting a financial drubbing from their supreme grifter, supreme lair and all-a-round supreme fraudster and cheater.

BTW, don't forget to donate to this month's "get-outta-jail" fund raiser email drive.

PS: Donnie "the Devil" J. Dommkopf, I think this month's rally cry, is "...you know you can't be rich, so donate and make me rich instead." (...kkkk!)

[EihTooms]

I hear Biden has already assured doughy, infantile Ron "no Federal aid for Hurricane Sandy" DeSantis that real tax payers in responsible states like New York and California will pick up the tab for his massive shortfall on this.

Hurricane Ian could be Floridas costliest storm ever

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/30/b...icane-ian-cost

Considering Repub pols in states like Florida have for decades ignored the fact that their locations are ripe for the worst of ongoing Climate Change disasters, this might be a good time to start denying Federal assistance beyond immediate life-saving measures to states and districts whose Senators and Representatives did not vote for Biden's American Rescue Plan, Infrastructure Bill and especially the Inflation Reduction Act.

We'll see how inflation goes for those Repub areas when they get their wish to have all these issues taken care of and paid for from "smaller government" city, state and local tills and pay full boat to their ever popular private sector businesses from now on.

[EihTooms]

Well clearly you perceive the word is used pejoratively that way, while...I DO NOT!

I think, whatever else the debate / discussion between the BMs have morphed into something different than perhaps my initial understanding from the genesis of the debate.

EihTooms is correct from my POV, w/r to the economic wellness of Americans. That is to say, he's has shown that historically, most Americans have prospered economically (or socially for that matter) and fared much better when Dems have been in power vs Repubs. That's IT!!! That was my take-away, from their initial arguments, that they put forth.

From Reagan to Trump: Here's how stocks performed under each president:
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019...ent/index.html

That's not to say Americans, didn't do well under a Repub Admin, but IMHO, it's that more Americans fared better under a Dems Admin. For example personally, economically I did okay under Donnie "the devil" J. Dummkopf admin, but did much better under Pres. Obama and Clinton Admin..

Yes, it is not like the pro Repub Bothsiders who spout unsubstantiated opinions, dig deep to carve out some meaningless detail somewhere that they think saves the day for them and assert that all these sub par Repub outcomes occurred because something horrific happened to just "hit" only on the Repubs' watch that they had no control over and had no duty to prepare for and prevent.

Excuses excuses excuses.

Meanwhile, the only horrific conditions Dems ever happen to get "hit" with are the conditions the outgoing Repubs hand over to them on the way in and for which the Dems invariably succeed in recovering America from in historic fashion.

All while the Repubs and their pro Repub Bothsider partners in MSM and elsewhere yap their flaps, snipe at them, shout that they just ain't doing it right or good enough or fast enough or slow enough or for free! LOL.

[PVMonger]

Yes the dumbest people in the world keep blaming Trump and everything else in the world for Biden's stupidity and incompetence.

Actually, the dumbest people in the world don't have a clue how inflation happens so they blame President Biden. And, like you, their cornbread ain't quite done in the middle.

[EihTooms]

"then Covid hit".

"then the Great Depression hit".

"then the Financial Crises hit".

"then the S&L Crash hit".

"then 9-11 hit".

And on and on.

You pro Repub Bothsiders are hilarious. Talk about head in the sand oblivious and niave.

When any one of you can point to thoughts, words, deeds and results by the Repub Party since at least Reagan's famous declaration of war against America, war whoop and all, that wouldn't better apply to a frankly stated enemy of America rather than people honestly trying to Keep America Great, that would be impressive.

But so far, you've got nothing.

Keep pushing those insignificant sucker social issues and setting up your Big Liar Election Denying QAnon Loons to throw out likely Dem ballots and only count the rest. That's your only hope for power.

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...ular-anywhere/

https://stormer-daily.rw/satanic-hin...ricane-relief/

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2022/...-visit-to-dmz/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5OkECyvCY8

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.breitbart.com/news/brazi...nst-bolsonaro/

Polls had Lula winning by 10-15%.

Fake polls don't work LMAO.

[Tiny 12]

"And the federal government doesn't have jack to do with that, except to take taxpayer money and inefficiently redistribute part of it to states and cities."

I am all for the Federal government not sending jack shit of what they collect back to the states. Since "red states" receive a disproportionate amount of those federal funds, they'll all wither and die. https://sipanews.fiu.edu/2021/03/24/...endent-states/.

So am I, since my metropolitan area has the highest per capita personal income in the USA. We have a Republican mayor and Republican governor. Local and state government are run efficiently and we get good value for our tax dollars. A majority in the county are people of color and a plurality are Hispanics. And Republicans get about 60 percentage points more votes than Democrats in elections. I'd dearly love it if the busy body politicians in Washington D.C. would back off. To the extent possible, let people in cities and counties and states run their affairs as they see fit.

[Tiny 12]

The term is clearly used by individuals like Tooms as an ad hominem against those who aren't on board with his cherry picking and Dems are light / Repubs are darkness interpretive framework. Online definitions of the term involve the accusation that one is unjustifiably giving equal validity to two sides of an argument, but such an error hardly of necessity follows from questioning some of Toom's simplistic, dubious and blustery claims or his far left sources. Tiny is correct, responsible economic and historical analysis is more complicated than "Democrat good, Republican bad. " End of story.

Spidy and Tooms are just reflecting what they read in left of center media, which has an agenda. You knock out the effect of recessions, and I bet you wouldn't see a lot of difference in performance of the stock market and the economy between Republican and Democratic administrations. And blaming recessions on the president is downright naive. To the extent that government has any control over the economic cycle, it's mostly in the hands of the Fed. What control does the chief executive, or the central bank (Fed) for that matter, have over whether there's a pandemic? Or whether OPEC decides to jack up oil prices? The timing of a dot com boom? Or, as an explanation of recessions in European countries, and a partial explanation of the upcoming Biden recession, a Russian invasion of Ukraine? Well, not a hell of a lot.

I tried to make this sink in by showing the correlation between Democratic presidents and American casualties in foreign wars, but it didn't stick, at least for Tooms.

I believe Republicans are better for America and me in the long term because more of them are in favor of smaller government and devolution of power and taxation to the state and local levels. Government closest to the people is better. And at the state and local level, I believe Republicans on average are the better executives. That's part of the reason why blue states like Massachusetts, Maryland and Virginia have Republican governors.