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  1. #14362

    Can it get more stupid than this?

    Jury selection is underway now complete in the case of The People of the State of New York vs. Donald J. Trump, which alleges that the defendant lied to his own check register, and lied to the general ledger of his own company, when the invoice given to him by his lawyer was paid and recorded by someone else, and that the misstatement he made to himself in his own records was done "with the intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof. "

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...leyn-treatment

    Man, maybe he should just be executed.

    That local prosecutor, Alvin Bragg, is a member of the Democratic Party and the voters who elected Bragg and from whom the jury will be chosen support the Democratic Party. In 2016, the people of New York County voted 87% for Hillary Clinton and 10% for Donald Trump, and in 2020,87% for Joe Biden and 12% for Donald Trump. In other words, the jury pool is chosen from one of the most partisan jurisdictions in the country a place where almost all the judges are Democrats as well.

    So the Democratic prosecutor elected in the second most Democratic county in the United States will try the former Republican president and current putative Republican Party presidential nominee before a Democrat-appointed judge and a jury drawn from a pool 87% of whom voted against him (and who are being asked if they watch Fox News or listen to talk radio in the screening process).

    In other words, this is what Democrats think is fair.

    Moreover, New York's statute of limitations requires that misdemeanor prosecutions be commenced within two years of the commission of the act, meaning that under the last provision, this case should never have been filed.

    Gee, and you wonder why this case was filed.

    For example, why does the entry in the check register or the general ledger matter at all? When would those entries, as opposed to the allegedly false invoices, be shown to anyone for any nefarious purpose? And were the entries even false? Was there any intent to fool someone to obtain something in making the entries who was the target of the allegedly false entry in private books and records? If there's no mark, no victim, then how could there be an "intent to defraud"? Defraud whom? And what is the other crime that the person making the book entry intended to commit or hide? If the other crime is not a New York crime but a federal crime, does every county prosecutor in the United States, including Alvin Bragg, have the jurisdiction to enforce an alleged federal crime indirectly through a state crime?

    The answer is the New York legal system where all is fair if you are a Democrat going after a Republican.

    And how about Trump's right under the 6th amendment:

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

    Speedy trial? Impartial jury? LOL.

    https://nypost.com/2024/03/30/us-new...-90m-off-case/

    Two major Democratic clients of the daughter of the judge overseeing Donald Trump's hush-money trial have raised at least $93 million in campaign donations and used the case in their solicitation emails raising renewed concerns that the jurist has a major conflict of interest.

    The judge's daughter, Loren Merchan, is president of Authentic Campaigns, a Chicago-based progressive political consulting firm whose top clients include Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), who was the lead prosecutor in Trump's first impeachment trial, and the Senate Majority PAC, a major party fundraiser.

    "Authentic Campaigns, and thus the judge's daughter, is actively making money from this sham attack against President Trump, rendering Judge Merchan conflicted out," Trump spokesman Steven Cheung told The Post, adding that evidence of bias is even clearer now than it was in August when Merchan rejected Trump's first recusal motion.

    And we have the infamous words of "only 10 million illegals" rule of law soy boy saying how much Democrats were after truth, and they do not like being lied to and have so much integrity. So this judge, who has an obvious conflict of interest, recused himself from the case right?

    Nah, he shoved a gag order down Trump's throat.

    So here we go again. While Democrats are going to be cackling and giving themselves high fives for finding Trump guilty in this blatantly stupid and rigged case, your average American is going to see how fucking stupid this case really is and get that once again, Democrats want to cheat and win an election in a court room and not at the ballot box.

    I have a feeling this trial is going to push Trump's numbers into the stratosphere.

  2. #14361
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    And the biggest share holder and founder of Amazon is Jeff Bezos. He also owns the Washington Post. And you think he is a Republican? You keep railing against billionaires and do not get how many of them are Democrats. LOL. Thank God you have a handle on the facts "only 10 million illegals" Soy Boy.

    https://www.socialexplorer.com/blog/...election-11047

    Among the 25 counties with the greatest concentrations of households earning more than six figures, President-elect Joe Biden won 16 two more than 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

    "I am Spidy. I have integrity. I know all the facts. " You are so full of it Soy Boy.

    Ah yes, soy boy, your fat flimsy tower of "integrity" is okay with using the law to punish someone breaking the law as long as it helps you. Hey, those 10 million illegals cross the border, and you are totally down with that. Yeah, two Democratic douches found Trump guilty of a victimless act right before the election in an effort to rig it, and it just happened to be in the year of an election. That was a shocker!

    And now we have the latest.

    Check out this potential Trump juror at the 4:47 mark.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojKFOsNZjgA

    This witch admits this case is not about the law. She says she is not a fan and talks about abortion, Covid, and Trump's policies. The one thing she does not mention is what Trump was accused of. She openly admits that which everyone knows. This is not about breaking the law. It is about rigging an election, and she hates Trump so much she does not even get how fucking selfish she is that she as a juror thinks she can choose who should be president more than the voters.

    At this point, they should not even have a trial. The more honest thing to do is just find Trump guilty because New Yorkers do not like him. There has not been one speck of testimony but does there need to be? Anyone with a brain knows this jury will find Trump guilty.

    And THIS is why Trump will win. Unlike you Soy Boy, a guy who supports people illegally crossing the border and stabs his own sex in the back, real Americans believe that voters and not Democratic juries and Democratic prosecutors should be picking who is president. That is why whenever Trump gets charges brought against him he goes up in the polls. The rigging of the 2020 election was done in secret. Shit, the rigging of the 2024 election is completely out in the open now.

    But all you care about is your government check.
    "real Americans believe that voters and not Democratic juries and Democratic prosecutors should be picking who is president."

    LOL. In which case it would have been a clean sweep for the Democratic candidate in every presidential election since and including 1992, thirty-two years ago, allowing for the fact that the only Repub to win slightly more votes than the Dem since then, in 2012, would never have been there to run as a Repub-initiated counterproductive quagmire Wartime Incumbent president had it not been for him already being an undemocratically appointed so-called president in 2000 by a handful of equally undemocratically appointed Supreme Court Justices and Electoral College members.

  3. #14360
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Y

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/tech/...tax/index.html
    https://www.vox.com/2019/2/20/182317...rporate-income

    Just goes to show who's really bankrupting the country, while hiding behind the "theatrical media hysteria" on immigration from the right-wing Repub propaganda media apparatus over at likes of FOXY News and NewsMax.
    And the biggest share holder and founder of Amazon is Jeff Bezos. He also owns the Washington Post. And you think he is a Republican? You keep railing against billionaires and do not get how many of them are Democrats. LOL. Thank God you have a handle on the facts "only 10 million illegals" Soy Boy.

    https://www.socialexplorer.com/blog/...election-11047

    Among the 25 counties with the greatest concentrations of households earning more than six figures, President-elect Joe Biden won 16 two more than 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

    "I am Spidy. I have integrity. I know all the facts. " You are so full of it Soy Boy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    I forget, Elvis 2008, must have taken accounting/math at Trump University. You know, the one that says, to arbitrarily deflate the numbers/asset valuations when in office/being taxed and inflate the numbers when I'm out of office/going to the bank for a loan. If I'm not mistaken, Trump was found guilty and ordered to pay $355 million in tax fraud, for such fraudulent claims.
    Ah yes, soy boy, your fat flimsy tower of "integrity" is okay with using the law to punish someone breaking the law as long as it helps you. Hey, those 10 million illegals cross the border, and you are totally down with that. Yeah, two Democratic douches found Trump guilty of a victimless act right before the election in an effort to rig it, and it just happened to be in the year of an election. That was a shocker!

    And now we have the latest.

    Check out this potential Trump juror at the 4:47 mark.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojKFOsNZjgA

    This witch admits this case is not about the law. She says she is not a fan and talks about abortion, Covid, and Trump's policies. The one thing she does not mention is what Trump was accused of. She openly admits that which everyone knows. This is not about breaking the law. It is about rigging an election, and she hates Trump so much she does not even get how fucking selfish she is that she as a juror thinks she can choose who should be president more than the voters.

    At this point, they should not even have a trial. The more honest thing to do is just find Trump guilty because New Yorkers do not like him. There has not been one speck of testimony but does there need to be? Anyone with a brain knows this jury will find Trump guilty.

    And THIS is why Trump will win. Unlike you Soy Boy, a guy who supports people illegally crossing the border and stabs his own sex in the back, real Americans believe that voters and not Democratic juries and Democratic prosecutors should be picking who is president. That is why whenever Trump gets charges brought against him he goes up in the polls. The rigging of the 2020 election was done in secret. Shit, the rigging of the 2024 election is completely out in the open now.

    But all you care about is your government check.

  4. #14359

    For Years Amazon paid 0$ in federal income tax...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing4987  [View Original Post]
    Guesstimates are 🚫 not facts

    Nor are "alternative facts" How many hundreds of millions did Fox News pay to settle the Dominion Voting machine lawsuit? More lawsuits are pending. How about a "guesstimate" of how many undocumented immigrants that work, own businesses and pay taxes vs oligarchs that pay no taxes?
    You bring up an excellent point!

    Remember back in 2019, it became known that, immigrants paid more in taxes, than the multi-billion dollar corporation, Amazon, who had paid nothing ($0) in federal income taxes, since 2016.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/tech/...tax/index.html
    https://www.vox.com/2019/2/20/182317...rporate-income

    Just goes to show who's really bankrupting the country, while hiding behind the "theatrical media hysteria" on immigration from the right-wing Repub propaganda media apparatus over at likes of FOXY News and NewsMax.

  5. #14358

    Yet another alumni Trump University...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    Do you? The point was that illegals have driven up rents and are bankrupting the USA. Do you think ONLY 10 million illegals have entered the USA since Biden was president versus 20 million is a winning issue?
    (...kkkk!) Sure dude...sure!

    I forget, Elvis 2008, must have taken accounting/math at Trump University. You know, the one that says, to arbitrarily deflate the numbers/asset valuations when in office/being taxed and inflate the numbers when I'm out of office/going to the bank for a loan. If I'm not mistaken, Trump was found guilty and ordered to pay $355 million in tax fraud, for such fraudulent claims.

    Yeah, attending Trump University would about sum up your nonsensical example, w/r to the numbers you're pulling outta your ass on immigration! (...kkkk!)

    Meanwhile the billionaires have you and your FOXY Muse gullible minions, doing their biding, as Trump Tax cuts benefit the top 1%, while paying very little to nothing in federal taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    Trump is clobbering Biden on the immigration issue. Your outrage over the number just shows how morally bankrupt your position is.
    Is that what you've been told at Foxy News? (Hint: If so, they're lying to you! ...kkkk!)

    Sleepy Trumpy Trump is clobbering Biden?...NOT according to:
    • Democrat Tom Suozzi win the N.Y. 3rd district, 2024 special election (for the seat left vacant by George Santos), beating the Repub candidate, largely on immigration, issues.
    • Repub Chip Roy (R-TX), as it's abundantly clear, that the border problems and failure, were ALL due to TRUMP!
    • The CBPs estimated at-the-border apprehension rate averaged 78%, from 2018 to 2020, compared to 35% from 2002 to 2004.
    • The beloved drafted bipartisan border security bill by the Senate and Sen. James Lankford (R-OK), that solves most everything Repubs want.
    • The numerous election wins in 2022, 2023 and 2024, Democrats have demolished Repubs in elections, special elections and primaries, on primarily the number one issue that front and center for most Americans abortion, abortion bans, women's health and reproductive rights to choose.
    I'm still waiting for Trump, Repubs and the INCEL He-man women haters, such as yourself to make it pass the starting line on abortion, the continuing use of Misferpristone and Misoprostol, IVF and contraception.

    Hint: If Repubs, want to win the presidential election race in 2024, they may want to take off the blinders on those women issues.

  6. #14357
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    LOL. But you Democratic douches sure swallowed up the guesstimate on where Covid came from right? It did not come from a lab and anyone blaming China was racist right?

    Hell, you probably still think Covid came from nature and not a lab.
    And here we go again. Watch yet another Elvis' escape to one of his happy places (COVID or AIDS) when he has lost the argument on the subject matter.

  7. #14356

    Repub douches looked hard and found no smoking gun on that issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    LOL. But you Democratic douches sure swallowed up the guesstimate on where Covid came from right? It did not come from a lab and anyone blaming China was racist right?

    Hell, you probably still think Covid came from nature and not a lab.
    Senate GOP Covid origins probe finds circumstantial evidence but no smoking gun to support lab leak theory.
    May 17, 2023


    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/polit...ort/index.html

    "What we present below is a substantial body of circumstantial evidence that supports the plausibility of such a scenario, the executive summary of Rubios report states about the lab leak theory, making clear the findings do not offer a definitive answer to the origins question.

    Specifically, Rubios new report highlights evidence that Chinese government officials and relevant figures in the scientific community possessed some level of awareness of an outbreak of infectious disease well before that information was disclosed publicly on December 31, 2019.

    It also notes that the congressional investigation unearthed information that further suggests there was some kind of serious biocontainment failure or accident at the state-run Wuhan Institute of Virology during the second half of 2019.
    Despite Repub douches looking and looking and looking very hard to find conclusive evidence that Trump's Pandemic virus originated in a lab leak rather than the overwhelmingly more common way in nature and then being brought to a lab where a leak can always occur (as if that makes any big deal difference at all. LOL), they did find plenty of evidence that, sure enough, if only Donald Trump had not stubbornly defunded and eliminated Obama's Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention teams from those labs contrary to all expert warnings not to do something as stupid and dangerous as that, the world would have had crucial weeks or months of advanced notice to have launched into the necessary isolation and quarantine in that area of China in order to have effectively Prevented Trump's Pandemic from developing in the first place and to have delayed the wider spread of it until well after fully tested and distributed vaccines for it had been distributed around the world.

    As Donald Trump himself acknowledged in a March 2020 recorded interview with Bob Woodward.

    Which would have saved millions of lives and averted the business, school and travel industry closures, the global supply-chain destruction, worldwide economic collapse and the inevitable hyper-inflation that followed.

    Essentially every historic destruction and disaster that Trump had been warned for about a year prior would likely occur if he insisted on going forward with his planned typically Repub economic and national security policies and stewardship in that regard.

  8. #14355
    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing4987  [View Original Post]
    Guesstimates are 🚫 not facts
    LOL. But you Democratic douches sure swallowed up the guesstimate on where Covid came from right? It did not come from a lab and anyone blaming China was racist right?

    Hell, you probably still think Covid came from nature and not a lab.

  9. #14354
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes, I have to wonder, do you even read what you write?
    Do you? The point was that illegals have driven up rents and are bankrupting the USA. Do you think ONLY 10 million illegals have entered the USA since Biden was president versus 20 million is a winning issue? Trump is clobbering Biden on the immigration issue. Your outrage over the number just shows how morally bankrupt your position is.

  10. #14353

    Missing the forest for the trees

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Bring in? 20 millions? Here's Elvis again in all his splendor.

    "Nearly 10 million migrants attempted to enter the US between October 2019 and January 2024, with record-high border apprehensions in 2022. ".

    https://usafacts.org/articles/what-c...d-immigration/

    Of course, "attempting to enter" doesn't equate to entering, but why focus on the details when you have a cool round number!
    The funniest thing about the Repubs' obsession with the relatively insignificant issue of border crossings, certainly relative to the damage done to America by the Trump / Repubs' historic incompetence and traitorous hatred for America and democracy around the world, is those crossings have obviously and verifiably done nothing to reduce the number of newly created good and higher wage jobs for any American who wants one under Biden, nothing to reverse the plunging crime rates across the country as well as in border towns and sanctuary cities under Biden, nothing to slow down the unprecedented worldwide March toward more American / Western democratic alliances under Biden.

    Hell, Trump's appointed and befuddled Fed Chairman probably wishes those crossings would finally show some meaningful sign of tamping down Bidenomics' greatest jobs creation and wage gains results to do for the current modest rate of inflation what his clumsy guidance has failed to do after three years.

    Again and as usual, the only real threat to any of those truly significant Biden / Dem accomplishnents for keeping America the greatest and most Economically successful country on Earth with the most powerful and effective National Security is The Republican Party, the Pink Tinkle Repub Majority in the House, the Repubs in the Senate, the Repub Majority in the Supreme Court and, of course, their America-hating cult leader Donald Trump. Not border-crossing asylum-seekers.

  11. #14352

    Guesstimates are 🚫 not facts

    Nor are "alternative facts" How many hundreds of millions did Fox News pay to settle the Dominion Voting machine lawsuit? More lawsuits are pending. How about a "guesstimate" of how many undocumented immigrants that work, own businesses and pay taxes vs oligarchs that pay no taxes?

  12. #14351

    Speaking of substantiating facts and something called INTEGRITY...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    Well, the MSNBC listening, NYT reading Demolunes / Democrat douches do not read or listen to anything outside of their narrow lane. So whatever is said on Fox, they just dismiss it. ...
    No, no, no...I think you'd be wrong, as to think Dems would dismiss such LIES over at FOXY Muse. It's pretty hard to dismiss, when the LIES and disinformation are so blatantly offensive, that they SLAP you in the face as incredibly scurrilous, contemptuous and often baseless or marred in Russian propaganda.

    I think it's perhaps more to do with the fact that Dems, don't like being lied to, misinformed and spoon-fed by Putin and his Russian disinformation propaganda campaign, to gullible news media like FOXY Muse and it's "ground breaking coverage of lies", it's regular list of Russian Repub House "useful idiots" and the like, spouting QAnon "Jewish Space Lasers" conspiracies, or for that matter conspiracies about "Italian spy satellites" hacking our very secure, safe, free and fair election voting system or machines.
    • Another ISGer, from a previous convo, sums up FOXY Muse, with "laser" like precision:
      Quote Originally Posted by The Cane  [View Original Post]
      But here's the kicker. Their loyal audience knows they lie but they don't care so long as the "conservative" media tells them what they want to hear (I put conservative in quotes because these "outfits" do conservatism a great injustice). They (the conservative audience) don't want to know the truth (they can't handle it), and "news outlets" like FOX were eager to serve up the lies to feed their own bottom lines.

      That is until they got slapped with an $800 million dollar settlement. What's that bottom line look like now? Not as bad as Rudy's LMAO! Another liar! Their all getting theirs. And good! The sweetest will be when Trump finally goes down. He will. Be patient.
    On the left, we unapologetically, demand a certain high-level of journalism, from our news sources, that requires something over at FOXY Muse, know very little, to nothing about (which is understandable, since they don't really see themselves as a real NEWS organization).

    Yes, that "something", is called Journalistic Integrity.

    Which when translated for those on the right unfamiliar with the term, means the ability to report the truth, the facts, that are corroborated, substantiated, verified and validated, from trusted and reliable sources, that adhere to industry ethical and journalistic standards.

    So I think it's safe to say, at FOXY Muse, neither they nor their "gullible" loyal watchers, care much for integrity, much less deliver a certain level of professionalism, commensurate with that expected from one of journalistic integrity.

  13. #14350

    Do you hear yourself?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    ... As for where the number 20 million comes from, that is just a guesstimate of how many illegals are here. No one really knows. The guessestimate from Border Patrol is that 10 million illegals have entered under Biden. So while you play this dumb game of Gotcha Elvis, it is 10 million not 20 million, you are oblivious to the plights of the cities taking in the illegals and people paying rent.
    Sometimes, I have to wonder, do you even read what you write?

    How exactly do you expect a reader to RESPECT what you wrote, when you're throwing up wild numbers, unsubstantiated with anything related, that would even persuade a reader to think, you might be right?

    Sorry, but I'm not one of your fellow gullible FOXY Muse loyalists!

  14. #14349
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Do you get supply and demand? If you bring in 20 million immigrants and the supply of housing only slightly goes up, then the price on housing WILL go up.
    Bring in? 20 millions? Here's Elvis again in all his splendor.

    "Nearly 10 million migrants attempted to enter the US between October 2019 and January 2024, with record-high border apprehensions in 2022. ".

    https://usafacts.org/articles/what-c...d-immigration/

    Of course, "attempting to enter" doesn't equate to entering, but why focus on the details when you have a cool round number!

  15. #14348

    They got you again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Spidy, obviously like Thailand Tooms, you are living abroad on your government checks completely oblivious to the workings of America. You knock down anything you don't like as MAGA, QAnon, or whatever. You completely have your head in the sand when it comes to who the wealthy support.

    With Biden, if you are wealthy and own stocks and real estate, you have done well. If you rent and are paycheck to paycheck, you have gotten killed under Biden.

    If you go to this video and watch from the 1:57 mark for one minute, you will see the most definitive evidence of why Biden will lose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_q9O7zJEw8.

    This is not Fox News. This is MSNBC polling undecided voters in swing states and every fucking one of them says Trump's policies helped them and Biden's economic policies hurt them.

    I kind of wonder what kind of bullshit you will say to make yourselves feel better after you watch this. Maybe you will take the Thailand Tooms route and blame the editing. When that fucker Fauci said you could get AIDS just living with a child with AIDS, he was not shown to be the fucking idiot that he was. No, per the loon Thailand Tooms, it was just editing.

    As for where the number 20 million comes from, that is just a guesstimate of how many illegals are here. No one really knows. The guessestimate from Border Patrol is that 10 million illegals have entered under Biden. So while you play this dumb game of Gotcha Elvis, it is 10 million not 20 million, you are oblivious to the plights of the cities taking in the illegals and people paying rent.

    All you give a shit about is your government check.
    Uh. Where are the outrageously negative comments about Trump from "undecideds"/ Independents that appeared in that MSNBC segment?

    Oh, you didn't know there were any? You just thought that idiot YouTube video included all of the negative comments the gathered "undecideds" had to offer and it was only about Biden?

    LOL.

    You have been blissfully easily bamboozled again, Culty McGullible.

    First of all, if after 4 years of observing Trump and experiencing his Pandemic, massive jobs destruction, his 2 Bear Market declines in just 4 years, rising crime rates and USA at War for the entirety of his so-called presidency vs 3 1/2 years of Biden's historic job gains and wage increases, Stock Market gains, plunging crime rates and NO USA at War anywhere on the planet, any self-proclaimed "undecideds" at this point are by definition extremely low low low low information voters. Possibly comatose most of the time.

    And speaking of the stock market, where is that one numbskull hearing Joe Bidrn "only talking about the stock market all the time"? LOL. He must be as easily bamboozled by creatively and tightly edited YouTube Winger videos as you are.

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