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01-23-22 23:10 #6158
Posts: 428Biden and I
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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01-23-22 22:10 #6157
Posts: 1604Forrest Gump was correct
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
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01-23-22 21:56 #6156
Posts: 1925More lies
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
A recent Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that over half of Americans (56%) support the Build Back Better Framework, but that support is primarily driven by Democrats. Eighty-three percent of Democrats support the plan, while only 28% of Republicans do. However, although support for the plan is split along party lines, individual components of the plan garner high support from all Americans. Expanding Medicare coverage gets the most support (80%), followed by imposing a 5% tax on incomes of over $10 million a year (70%), and universal preschool (69%). Investing in the immigration system (53%) and imposing a 15% minimum corporate tax (56%) are least supported, with the lack of support primarily from Republicans. Finally, 57% think Americans would be positively impacted, and a majority think they would personally benefit from the bill being passed.
The sample includes 449 Democrats, 381 Republicans, and 91 independents.
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01-23-22 21:09 #6155
Posts: 428Hunter Biden
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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01-23-22 21:07 #6154
Posts: 42870% is a made up number
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
52 senators got it right and the American people are grateful.
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01-23-22 21:01 #6153
Posts: 1925It's scary, but he might be right about it.
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
Despite the litany of criminal charges that should've been brought against Trump already, he's yet to be charged with anything.
I mean, just his RECORDED phone conversation with Georgia officials when he's OPENLY PRESSING them to change the votes in his favor -- how can it possibly NOT be criminal, for fuck's sake? That's a third world territory.
It's impossible to believe that anyone other than Trump could've blatantly committed so many criminal offences, one after another, in broad daylight and gotten away with it. Who's Teflon Don now?
Mindboggling, really.
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01-23-22 20:56 #6152
Posts: 1604There you go again
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
You can howl at the moon all you want but the House Committee will hold public hearings and those hearings will prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt that the one-term, twice-impeached former guy tried to stage a coup. The fact that he and his henchmen were incompetent will come as a surprise to absolutely nobody.
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01-23-22 20:51 #6151
Posts: 1604And yet
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
Of course, since the poll contradicts the narrative for the fascists, they will say that polls don't mean anything. What they really mean is that polls they don't agree with don't mean anything. Polls that they agree with are valid.
In fact, 50 RethugliKKKan Senators represent something less than 25% of the American people.
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01-23-22 19:51 #6150
Posts: 2344Donald Trump is a criminal and he belongs in jail
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
You are right that TrumpShit is going down no matter what.
But Ivanka turned 40 years old last year, and the rest of her life is with her same-age husband, not some 75 year old hamburgler.
Ivanka and Jerod ran as fast as possible from TrumpShit.
I don't think they have been in the same room since they fled soon after the failed coup.
Ivanka & Jared have a simple choice (I think they made it in January right after Ivanka tried to talk daddy down from his glee over the rioting).
TrumpShit will definitely drag Ivanka down with the corruption of The Trump Oganization's frauds.
Unless she breaks free.
Any good student of Grandpa Fred Trump and Roy Cohn know that when someone's becomes a problem.
You best dump them in the gutter.
Or prison, where they can no longer hurt you.
There never was any room in the Kosher home that Jared and Ivanka keep.
Just room for the kids, that need both of their parents.
Jared is a lifelong democrat that gave money when Hilary ran in 2008.
That was the year where Jared gave his endorsement to Barack Obama in his campaign against John McCain.
Ivanka is a real Trump. She demands loyalty.
But doesn't give any if it costs.
Donald Trump is a criminal and he belongs in jail, with Ivanka's help, or not.
Ivanka is going to help herself.
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01-23-22 18:55 #6149
Posts: 428Thank you 50 republicans and 2 democrats
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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01-23-22 18:49 #6148
Posts: 1068History will prove it just like Russian collusion
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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01-23-22 18:45 #6147
Posts: 106852 smart senators
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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01-23-22 16:52 #6146
Posts: 1604And your post say what?
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
He, too, called Democrats "socialists", "communists" etcetera because their stances were more left than his (and your) beliefs that slavery and the holocaust were great ideas.
He, too, is a fascist. He, too, is a racist. He, too, is a xenophobe. He, too, is a homophobe. He, too, is a misogynist. He, too, wanted to take America back to the 1850's when it was legal to own people and only white, straight, male property-owners could vote.
But the real reason the one-term, twice-impeached former guy likes his supporters to have a room-temperature IQ is because he knows that they won't be able to think for themselves. They need to be told what to think and that's the purpose of calling everything except wingnut propaganda mills "fake news."
Your posts give you away.
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01-23-22 11:46 #6145
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
What I have seen now is Republicans are more honest than Dems. Here are quotes of someone I agree with:
"If Democrats had just figured a way to deliver a few things for ordinary people over the years, they would never have lost again. The formula was obvious. Single-payer health care, bulk negotiation of drug prices, antitrust action against Too Big To Fail banks or Silicon Valley's surveillance monopolists really anything that demonstrates a willingness to prioritize voters over the takeover artists and CEOs who fund the party would have given them enduring credibility. Do that, while retaining at least a sliver of the reputation for fighting for civil rights won in the sixties, and how can you lose, ever?
I am in favor of all four of those items and care deeply about civil rights. The Democrats could deliver on all those items right now, but they will not. If any of these five issues came to a vote, and they won't, they will play the game Glenn Greenwald talked about where one Democrat votes against the bill so it fails and the Dems curse Republicans.
But my biggest gripe is who Biden's biggest supporters are: "Democrats under Biden have become the party of the nomenklatura. Their base is the slice of hyper-educated, jargon-spouting bureaucrats whose ranks are growing thanks to their skill at siphoning resources to themselves before they have a chance to reach a wider base of regular people. These new commissars are the most hated people in the country, and they're the Democrats' main constituency. Even species of viper and corporate parasite is swimming in riches now all thriving but lionized so long as they mask appropriately and genuflect to "norms. " Meanwhile, the party increasingly demonizes every species of complaining underclass person as a right-wing enemy, even the minorities."
Thing about the Democratic douches is how clueless they are about who they vote for.
This is what the same author said about Biden:
"The younger Biden was a feisty, unscrupulous hawk who affected to be a champion of the little guy while selling them out to the credit industry."
And they expect him to get drug prices down? That is why the Democratic douches are crazy. All Biden will do is blame high drug prices on Republicans and maybe saying it while wearing a sweater.
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01-23-22 07:55 #6144
Posts: 5385Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
For many, many decades, Repubs have carved out a niche in the political scene to prove that this government of the people doesn't work; "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem," said the Repub Party's most iconic leader to war whoops and cheers from his devoted followers. And he wasn't talking about some monarchy or dictatorship in a far away land. No, he was talking about this government of, by and for the American people. The Big Lie "Stop the Steal" Anti-American Democracy Insurrectionist Leader is the second greatest icon of the Republican Party. And not a random choice, either. By passionate and heartfelt design.
Sorry, but Abe and Teddy don't count since there is no way either of them wouldn't be shut out of the first Repub primary debate based on their "woke" critical race theory and tree-hugging environmental sensibilities. Oh, and they were both more than 100 years ago so who gives a fuck.
Repubs are either happy to just stand by while a fire smolders and rages in every corner of the American economic house or, if that isn't enough to prove how "government doesn't work", they'll happily soak it with fuel and strike a match. Their record of negative results and everything their leaders have proposed and passed certainly proves that point.
Dems try to show that this government of, by and for the American people does work. And their record of positive results and everything their leaders have proposed and passed proves that point as well.
That has nothing to do with whether or not Dems are "all good" and Repubs are "all bad" or that Dems are blameless when things don't go as well as planned or that Repubs contributed nothing to a positive outcome even if by accident.
It's just that searching for shades of grey on this issue is a silly mental exercise.
It is a silly and insignificant point to even try to make in light of the fact that 13 of the 17 Recessions in the past 100 years as cited by the truly official go-to source for these things, NBER, started under Repubs, including all of the half dozen or so "Great" ones while the 4 under Dems were probably the only ones that could not be avoided or the Dems would have avoided them. And they were mitigated and resolved by those Dems so quickly they are among the briefest and most insignificant blips on the radar of America's economic history.
Are there thieves and liars in both parties. Even a relative failure or two? Sure. So what?
Are there thieves and liars among firefighters and saintly grandma's among arsonists? Sure. So what?
I still can't think of one good reason to work very hard to find and cite "very fine people on both sides. " The stakes have always been too high to waste time and effort on silliness like that.
It's really worse than silliness. We arrived at Trump and the spectacular mess of death and economic destruction he made of everything right up to the greatest threat to American democracy since the Civil War every bit as much from the efforts of "Bothsiders" as the from efforts of those who whoop and cheer whenever one of their Repub leaders recall and restate Reagan's declaration of war against America, the America-hating screeds of Rush Limbaugh in the past, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity now and almost everyone else who ever hosted a show on FUX News Channel.