American Politics

[Tiny 12]

MSNBC and CNN are the worst. They can not report anything positive about the Biden administration, Biden policies or the economy because there isn't anything positive so they have to keep reporting on January 6, abortion and Trump raid. They along with democrats think their audience is stupid and will ignore the Biden failing presidency. And who are these networks audience? Yes democrats and the networks consider them stupid. Biden presidency was a disaster in 2021 and worst in 2022. Good news is that it is lower than every other president in history so it can't get much worse next year. America is suffering by Biden incompetence. And yes some idiot will reply to this post and blame Trump for Biden incompetence.

Au contraire. They're in business to make money, and they do that by appealing to left-of-center voters, who watch their commercials. So why would they slam the Biden administration?

Besides, Trump is so much more entertaining. I find myself watching a lot more MSNBC and CNN these days than Fox, for that reason, their coverage of Trump.

[Tiny 12]

Am I the only one that sees that charging people exorbitant amounts for electricity is wrong, especially when they had no control over the situation?

So what do you propose? Put price controls on the utilities and watch them all go bankrupt?

[Tiny 12]

Don't tell any Mainstream Media pundits about this:

Wholesale prices fell 0.1% in August amid inflation fears

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/14/prod...ndroidappshare

From your link:

"On a year-over-year basis, headline PPI increased 8. 7%, a substantial pullback from the 9. 8% rise in July and the lowest annual gain since August 2021. ". So I guess you could have just as well said, "Wholesale prices rose 8.7% in August amid inflation fears."

Yes, gasoline prices are down from their peak. Grocery prices are up 13.5% YoY though. Scott Brave, lead consumer-spending analyst at market research company Morning Consult says, "We have yet to see a peak in food inflation. And the longer that goes on, the higher it gets, the more difficult it becomes for lower-income individuals in particular to afford those price increases. ". The workingman's being left behind.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/we...ar-11663097731

To be fair, I'm busting your balls. The CPI on a MoM basis in August was only up 0.1%, and was flat in July from the previous month. Previously, since 10/31/2020, it had been running in the 0.6% to 1.3% range except for April. So maybe inflation is about to moderate. The market didn't like what it saw yesterday though, with the Dow down about 1200 points. I suspect that's because most of the decline in CPI was from gasoline prices, and other items kept rising. I'm not sure whether those numbers are seasonally adjusted.

[Tiny 12]

Am I the only one that can see Biden disaster presidency. Biden and White House celebrating their $500 billion giveaway inflation fighter and inflation soars upward.

Hilarious isn't it. The "Inflation Reduction Act. " It has nothing to do with inflation and everything to do with pork. Green pork.

[Tiny 12]

"I don't think Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden would have gotten the shots in peoples arms nearly as quickly." But you don't know, do you? Nobody has complained about Operation Dork Speed. What I have complained about is Repubs complaining about how the vaccines are ineffective without blaming the guy who was in charge. That's Donnie the Dumbass by the way. After all, creating a vaccine in quantities large enough for distribution is a construction problem. And Donnie the Dumbass is a construction genius according to him. How many commercial construction contracts have been signed in the past 50 years that didn't include a performance bond. None.

"A good part of the reason death rates are higher for the USA is because of the people, not Trump." BS, plain and simple. Many folks in the US (mostly trump supporters) didn't want to wear masks because Donnie the Dumbass didn't wear a mask. Rather than setting an example by saying something like "I hate wearing a mask but it is necessary to help prevent the spread of this disease", he refused to wear a mask and effectively told his idiot supporters not to wear one. Had Donnie the Dumbass done that, I guarantee that virtually every single one of his sheep would have done so. The same goes for every other decision and statement about COVID that Donnie the Dumbass made. He, and you, forget the power of words and actions. Especially his words and the actions of his sheep. That's the real problem here. Donnie the Dumbass was so wrong about COVID and what to do about it that it colored the actions of virtually every one of his supporters.

"Once we knew we had a pandemic on our hands, we should have spent crazy money on quality masks and tests in my opinion." Just exactly where should we have purchased masks and other PPE? Most PPE was made in Asia and China and other countries snapped up PPE. We were paying crazy prices for PPE because it was literally a dog-eat-dog competition. And what tests? Did Donnie the Dumbass tell the CDC to get off their dead asses and use tests approved by the WHO? Nope. Donnie the Dumbass didn't have a clue, other than to state that he was a fucking genius and understood all this virus stuff. So we didn't have an effective test for months. But who told the American public (in mid-March 2020 as I believe) that "1700 Google engineers are working on an application that will tell you where to get a test"? Yep, the same Donnie the Dumbass. Google had to say the next day that Donnie's Rose Garden press conference was t he first that they had heard of such an effort. But did Donnie the Dumbass' cultists believe Google? Nope.

Your entire post could have been restated simply "People are going to do whatever they're going to do so don't blame trump". Horse hockey. Donnie the Dumbass was overmatched by this virus. He didn't understand, and still doesn't understand, that his words and his actions were gospel to his idiot supporters. He told his supporters, by his actions, not to wear masks. He told his supporters, by his actions, not to socially distance. He told his supporters to oppose lockdowns. He told his supporters to shove lightbulbs up their asses. He told his supporters to inject disinfectant. He told his supporters to take unproved drugs (invermectin and hydroxychloroquine) to cure COVID. He did all of those things. Imagine if he'd have told the truth?

How many of his sheep who were indicted for the January 6th insurrection said in effect "I was there because trump told me to be there".

PVMonger,

How could you possibly maintain the shots were ineffective? They were 95% effective at preventing infection before COVID started mutating. And 75% to 85% effective against hospitalization and death since.

I clearly said that Trump didn't set a good example and should have done more to encourage people to wear masks and social distance.

That said, you apparently don't understand the mentality of hard core Trump supporters. I do. I live and work among them. Trump won the county where I live by a 60% margin. The plurality of residents here are Hispanics and the majority people of color, so you can't attribute that to this place being a hotbed of white nationalism.

They are not sheep. Most were not going to base their decisions as to whether to wear a mask on Donald Trump. Trying to get some to wear masks would be akin to trying to take their guns. A lot didn't get vaccinated, even though Trump was encouraging that, the initial shots anyway.

The majority of the Trumpsters don't do what Trump tells them to. Rather, Trump does what they want him to. Trump in his heart is a Democrat. Earlier on, when he was a registered Democrat, he implied he had no problem with partial birth abortion. And he favored a wealth tax, like what Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have proposed. When Republicans were formulating the 2017 TCJA (the tax cut act), Trump wanted to raise taxes on higher earners. He probably figured that would win him votes in 2020, and since he doesn't pay income taxes anyway, it was no sweat off of his back. Gary Cohn, a Democrat and his chief economic advisor, had to talk him out of it. He said something like, "Mr. President, you can't raise taxes. You're a Republican. " Trump just basically says whatever he thinks will help him with Republican voters. If he hadn't changed parties and had run for president as a Democrat, he would have said and done things that were pleasing to Democrats. You might have been one of his supporters, but I doubt it, you seem too smart.

Onto PPE. Yes PPE was in short supply in the months after COVID hit. But by December of 2020, I could buy KN95 masks in large quantities for $0. 27 a piece. (I checked the ads in my email.) And the majority of deaths in the USA occurred after 2020, after Biden came into office. The Biden administration didn't do very much with masks. To much fanfare, it distributed 25 million around February of 2021. Then it waited until the first part of 2022, after Omicron had hit, to make another 400 million available to Americans. Yeah, I agree with you, Biden didn't do a very good job with that. It's refreshing to hear you actually say something negative about the leader of your tribe.

And the tests. Yes, like Tooms and the economy, I guess you can blame the CDC's failure to provide tests early in the epidemic on the Republicans. Well, at least Trump had an excuse. He didn't want a lot of tests out there because he figured that would make the official number of COVID cases higher, and that would reflect badly on his administration. The public health bureaucracy and / or the Biden administration in 2021 and the first part of this year were just incompetent. You couldn't find tests when Omicron hit. And tests are important. You test positive and you staid home. Or if you're at risk of hospitalization from pre-existing conditions, you got monoclonal antibody treatment, or now Paxlovid. But tests were nowhere to be found.

As to detergent, HCQ, etc. , I agree. That was pretty stupid. I don't recall Ivermectin being discussed during Trump's time in office. I don't doubt that they're saying that on MSNBC though, as it fits into the theory that all Trumpsters are sheep.

Apologies, I'll get around to your other replies when I get some time.

[Cali Guy]

No you are not the only one. Any intelligent person will tell you the reason those idiots keep talking about Trump is to try to distract everyone from the reality of the worst president in history. CNN and MSNBC do it all the time. They can't talk about Biden because there is nothing positive about his presidency. Do you really think that Americans care about Trump when they can't afford to eat, pay their bills or fill their tank? They didn't have these issues during Trump presidency. They damn sure aren't blaming Trump or past presidents for Biden inflation.

MSNBC and CNN are the worst. They can not report anything positive about the Biden administration, Biden policies or the economy because there isn't anything positive so they have to keep reporting on January 6, abortion and Trump raid. They along with democrats think their audience is stupid and will ignore the Biden failing presidency. And who are these networks audience? Yes democrats and the networks consider them stupid. Biden presidency was a disaster in 2021 and worst in 2022. Good news is that it is lower than every other president in history so it can't get much worse next year. America is suffering by Biden incompetence. And yes some idiot will reply to this post and blame Trump for Biden incompetence.

[ScatManDoo]

I would honestly like to hear why you think the foetus of a rape victim deserve less rights than the foetus of a non-raped female.

I believe that every woman have complete ability to choose to have a safe and legal abortion if she so chooses.

A child becomes her burden to bear, so she deserves her choice.

Pro Choice.

[Cali Guy]

Am I the only one that sees that most of the world is suffering from inflation?

Am I the only one that sees that not giving a crap that Donnie the Dumbass stole Federally classified documents ignores the problem?

Am I the only one that sees that charging people exorbitant amounts for electricity is wrong, especially when they had no control over the situation? Or maybe escaping the problem by going to Mexico was wrong? Or maybe both?

My point is made. Socialist Idiots still talk about Trump when Biden economy and inflation is an issue. Electric prices rising with green energy. Gas prices rising with Biden policies. And idiot socialists talk about Trump. Electric prices in California have gone up with wind and solar. Must be Trumps fault. California democrats shut down nuclear and gas power and have rolling blackouts. Must be Trumps fault. Can you believe how dumb these socialists are?

[Tiny 12]

That is some mystical magical business cycle that favors Dem economic legislation and stewardship with every major economic expansion and massive jobs creation and none of the Great Depressions / Great Recessions of the past 100 years while rewarding Repubs' efforts with every Great Depression / Great Recession and massive job losses and none of the major expansions and massive jobs creation. And it turned out that way no matter if the Dems and Repubs get a 4 year, 8 year or 12 year shot at it too. Amazing.

It is so amazing it really defies all probability and I think it is long past time to start considering the distinct possibility if not a certainty that pattern of results is due to each Party's planned mission.

Look at any economic chart for major gains vs losses over time. Hell, look at your own posted link for the Real Household Income chart. Major declines began under Repubs vs the major recoveries and gains beginning under Dems.

Had Trump not been presented the opportunity to crash the USA economy and wipe out millions of jobs by defying all expert warnings not to leave the country bare ass naked to prevent or respond to a novel coronavirus spread and then to compound that disaster by lying the world into the Pandemic it became, he would have found another way to do it before he got canned from the job.

He's a Repub. That is what they do for a living. It is the only thing they do, know how to do and want to do.

Sure, as his re-election bid approached, he was forced to fast-track approval of vaccines he spent almost the entire Trump's Pandemic Production year dismissing as unnecessary for anyone to invent much less take. "It's disappearing! It will go away without a vaccine!

He was still lying about that deep into October 2020, even after drug companies were spending millions to invent vaccines despite Trump insisting they shouldn't bother.

Hi Tooms,

Well, if you believe in spurious correlations, you should go all in and put all your savings in USA Stock index futures. Every year in January, if an NFC team wins, go long, and if an AFC team wins, go short.

The primary determinant of whether the economy performs well or poorly over a 4 or 8 year period is whether the USA went through a recession. If you kick out the recessions and the recoveries, I bet you wouldn't see much of a correlation between GDP growth or real household income or whatever and the party of the president. There are exceptions, like Reagan's second term, Clinton's second term, and, for median household income and wages (but not GDP), 2019. Please note that, perhaps coincidentally, no one party controlled government during these periods. The presidency and at least the House were controlled by different parties.

So, when you boil it all down, the question is when were the recessions? You're clearly blaming COVID and the 2020 recession solely on Trump. You appear to be blaming the collapse of the housing market and the consequent 2008/2009 recession solely on George W. Bush. As well as the collapse of the internet boom. George H. W. Bush is responsible for the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the subsequent increase in oil prices. And then of course there was the most diabolical of Republicans, Ronald Reagan. He too was responsible for high energy prices. And stagflation and the Fed's actions to control it.

It's so simple isn't. It's like you said, they're Republicans, and "that is what they do for a living. It is the only thing they do, know how to do and want to do. " Nuke the economy. Satan has hardened their hearts.

As to economic performance during COVID, when Trump was president, we can look at how other countries did, comparatively. Here's YoY GDP growth at 12/31/2020 for the five largest developed countries in the world:

USA: -2. 3%.

Japan: -4. 68%.

Germany: -3. 70%.

France: -7. 8%.

UK: -9. 28%.

And as to Trump being a liar, yeah, he's a big liar, even by the standards of politicians. We agree on that.

I haven't forgotten your other posts. I'll be back with you on those - it's pretty busy with work.

[JustTK]

Typical, yet more again, attacking the messenger instead of the message. Followed up be more "lowbrow" name calling. For someone who's not into labels, you sure do sound like a hypocrite.

What are you talking about? Where is the name calling? Saying that you have smthg in common with insects bcos you can only see binary is not name calling. It is not even attacking the messenger. I am attacking your message. Which was to call me a QaNon supporter bcos of your binary (your either with us or against us) view of the world. Sounds like your the one employing QaNon Bush type rhetoric, not me.

[Spidy]

... I thought only insects and insect-like minds saw things in a binary world. Clearly I was mistaken. Maybe that's why your called Spidery.

Typical, yet more again, attacking the messenger instead of the message. Followed up be more "lowbrow" name calling. For someone who's not into labels, you sure do sound like a hypocrite.

Wait let's get this right, shall we. You clearly state, I correctly played you for a fool, as you stated here:.

Its called playing along with your silly games, and inventing a name that fits with YOUR naming style. ...

So, how could it be, that you and your ill-conceived bothsidesism mind, could fall for the "silly games" of your made up, so called "insect mind"?

How pathetic of a mind is yours to get played by a so called "insect mind"?

Next you'll revert to more typical name calling like your QAnon / Repub comrade, Elvis. Followed by more attacks on the messenger and not the message.

[Spidy]

One thing the QAnon\Repubs\Bothsidesists do better than C.H.E.A.T.I.N.G. and lying is scaming and grifting.

Former Repub Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant and former NFL player Brett Favre, team up to scam and steal welfare funds, to for a volleyball complex, they were heavily invested in.

QAnon\Repubs\Bothsidesists reverse "Robin Hood" at it's finest.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/brett...e-funds-report

[EihTooms]

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[Canada]

Am I the only one that can see Biden disaster presidency. Biden and White House celebrating their $500 billion giveaway inflation fighter and inflation soars upward. Even with the Biden policies killing the economy and gas prices down, inflation soars. Stock market crashes. Biden presidency is the worst in 40 plus years and idiots on this forum are still talking about Trump. Biden is driving millions of people into poverty. I along with normal working people care about today and the future. I don't give a crap about Trump or any past presidents good or bad. People are suffering. Biden proving he is the worst president ever and he has no solution or qualified people in the White House to help correct the problem. He has no qualified staff but he does have diversity. 20,000,000 households are delinquent on their power bills. California will solve their rolling blackouts by cutting off households from electricity. Democrats in California are basically stupid. No reality. Buy an expensive electric car but you can't charge it until after midnight. If you work night shift you can't charge your car during the day at home. Stupidity at its finest with democrats and Biden. When are guys here going to get serious about the Biden catastrophe? Bashing Trump isn't going to make retirement or paying your bills any easier. Only an idiot would talk about Trump when the people in USA are going through this crises.

No you are not the only one. Any intelligent person will tell you the reason those idiots keep talking about Trump is to try to distract everyone from the reality of the worst president in history. CNN and MSNBC do it all the time. They can't talk about Biden because there is nothing positive about his presidency. Do you really think that Americans care about Trump when they can't afford to eat, pay their bills or fill their tank? They didn't have these issues during Trump presidency. They damn sure aren't blaming Trump or past presidents for Biden inflation.

[Xpartan]

Oh my goodness You don't even know what binary means! : - ** "Not evil" is not binary, while "evil" is ** ... Haha! WTF....

FYI binary means there are only 2 outcomes. Your claiming that that there are no possible outcomes between 'evil' and 'not evil', which is clearly not correct. Even to a Spider.

Sigh. Now, at least, I see more clearly what we're dealing with. Go in peace.