American Politics

[Chris P]

Chris estimate of a 10 to 1 ratio of deaths from handguns versus rifles, shotguns and other guns looks pretty darn good to me based on the FBI numbers

Indeed.

So the question is: given that handgun crime and violence is a vastly greater problem than rifles, why is all the rhetoric we see in the media, hollyweird and from the democrats about AR-15's?

Could it be because most AR-15 owners are law-abiding suburban and rural heritage Americans, who are the intended victims of the left's modern-day Bolshevism and must be disarmed in order to be stripped of their rights and property in the name of "equity" and "racial justice"?

While handguns are predominantly used by the BLM footsoldiers of the intended revolution, and so are to be left alone?

[EihTooms]

Seriously, this kind of "rationale" is not very different from the kind of "rationale" I have heard and read from numbskulls defending their votes for Repubs for decades.

In less than 2 minutes, several Repub George Santos voters and supporters tell us everything we need to know about why Repubs and pro Repub Bothsiders and Neithersiders vote for, support and help Repubs win elections:

https://youtu.be/Gr2aedbGIPc

[EihTooms]

Haha, so typical. The video is about Schiff, and you have to make it about Trump. Thats why your party keeps losijng power. You cannot separate lies from reality. You keep voting for criminals.

Which Party keeps losing power?

Are you denying that Biden won the 2020 election in a Trump / Repub-defined Landslide, that the Dems gained a seat in the Senate in a year that historically shifts big time to the non WH Party and in that same year is still just 5 House votes away from overriding anything Squeaker of the House McQarthy's master Marjory orders him to do to destroy the USA economy and National Security Repub-style for the next 22 months?

[JustTK]

Uff, this is red hot. Admission of the most heinous crimes. Will the mainstream media continue to hide the truth or will we finally advance to overthrow the ruling class?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO86vEGsOB0

[Elvis 2008]

I have to disagree with you on this one Elvis. Scarborough says he was knocked down for months or weeks with the COVID disease because he did NOT get the booster.

Yeah, I misread that. Dr. Malone, who created the mRNA vaccines, made the comment you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him think. Still, Scarborough was vaccinated and got Covid.

But in addition to that there was the project Veritas video that most of the media did not cover. Their video of a Pfizer manager has been watched by millions.

Rather, I'd go to my general practitioner, an internal medicine specialist, who's a big believer in the COVID vaccine and boosters.

Well, he might be a conflicted source. Is he billing for giving the vaccines? Thing is that PV video is covered by Tucker Carlson here: https://rumble.com/v27a4co-dr.-rober...o-exposin.html.

And in that video at the 16:40 mark is Dr. Robert Malone saying Pfizer is admitting their vaccines do not work: "but the buried lead is the implicit acknowledgement that they cannot construct vaccines fast enough as the virus is outrunning them, and they are having to resort to extraordinary measures. This is an admission of defeat with their vaccine technology. ".

The thing about this Pfizer employee is that he admits Covid was created in a lab. He is now admitting how easy it is to manipulate the virus and implies that Pfizer is doing so again. Thing is this is done with cold viruses to make flu vaccines all the time. The notion that forced mutation is gain of function is wrong, but forced mutation COULD lead to gain of function.

Furthermore, Dr. Malone is saying that Pfizer could move this research to Israel and I am not sure there is a damned thing the USA can do about it. And this research could lead to another pandemic that makes the last one look like a walk in the park.

And giving Moderna and Pfizer and other vaccine manufacturers immunity from lawsuits was a great idea. Otherwise the plaintiff's attorneys might be suing them into nonexistence, like they did for a while with manufacturers of silicone breast implants and private planes.

Well, it is harder to sue now than it was, but I forgot about the government involvement in mandating the vaccines and its own liability. They are going to do something to protect big Pharma. At this point, they have to. There is no way this can go to court. Pharma will get killed.

[Tiny 12]

Spidy, The tables are turned. I didn't entirely catch that your post was satirical. Yes, Democrats, Republicans and apolitical types all kill with handguns. And handgun suicides I think outnumber handgun murders. I'd bring up homicide rates in blue cities again but I'm tired of arguing about that. You'd bring up red state homicide rates, I'd bring up Simpson's Paradox, you'd say that's hocus pocus, and we get nowhere.

[Tiny 12]

Thank you for making my point. Since Chris P, couldn't see it for himself, how ridiculous such claims and assumptions are w/r to attributing a particular segment/part of the chart, as being associated with a certain group of people, when the chart presented, CLEARLY shows no such associations or anything of the sort.

But feel free to continue your shared delusion.

Chris’ estimate of a 10 to 1 ratio of deaths from handguns versus rifles, shotguns and other guns looks pretty darn good to me based on the FBI numbers:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-8.xls

The most reasonable way to treat the “type not stated” category is to apportion it in accordance with the other categories.

Please note the FBI gets the info from local police departments, which provide it voluntarily, and the data often is not complete. Presumably that means if the local police department doesnt report the type of weapon, the FBI calls it “type not stated.”

[Spidy]

Spidy's theory makes a lot more sense Chris. Those 4740 deaths from "firearms, not stated" must be from bazookas, grenade launchers, shoulder fired missiles, howitzers and similar firearms owned by right wing militia members and hard core Trump supporters. ...

Thank you for making my point. Since Chris P, couldn't see it for himself, how ridiculous such claims and assumptions are w/r to attributing a particular segment/part of the chart, as being associated with a certain group of people, when the chart presented, CLEARLY shows no such associations or anything of the sort.

But feel free to continue your shared delusion.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Crass and indelicate as always!!! Dude, not exactly the kind of betting you want to be associated with, or maybe you do? (...kkkk).

But by all means, you do you. However I will refute your claims.

Well, since most Repubs are just such exemplary, pious, devout and righteous "Christians", and we all know the evidence bares it out, that these kind of vile assaults (as you've stated) mostly happens in the realms and hallowed halls of Church, one can only surmise the following.

These heinous acts, typically carried out in a act of betrayal of trust, from your so called arbiters of holiness, typically in the form clergymen, pastors, bishops, cardinals or even arch-cardinals at the top.

So it isn't hard to imagine that, not only are such unholy practices, carried out on the proverbial "choirboys/girls" and "alter-boys/girls", but no doubt, also on the general Sunday-school Bible class congregation as well. And who attends these Sunday-school Bible classes you ask? Why the righteous QAnon/Repubs of course.

I'm sure you can figure out the rest on your own, w/r to the unnatural completion of the circle-of-abuse and sexual misconduct, from the pious and "righteous-right", given the worldwide reach of the institution and front for "righteous" sexual-deviants, known as the church and its "righteous" minions.

Therefore definitely more like, 1K x 100K the rate, on the RIGHT more than on the left, given the influence of the church.

BTW, perhaps I'm just kidding...or I'm I? After all, you provide no evidence to backup your baseless right-wing claims.

PS: Is it any wonder Rep. Lauren Boebert Calls Separation of Church and State 'Junk' (Talk about doing the church's biding, or should I say pre-grooming? ...kkkk!)

https://people.com/politics/rep-laur...-church-state/

I wrote a long retort, but I don't see it.

I'm not going to rewrite it, the whole world knows the party of pedos is the party of Bubba et al.

Look at the gay Boy Scout leaders, they arent right wingers, several years ago I was listening to NPR maybe Fresh Air she was interviewing.

A gay scout leader and she asked him if he received grief from his friends and he chuckled and said.

No I hope to make more change from the inside than fighting from the outside (yeah you can't rape those scouts from the outside looking in).

Same with the priests.

Remember Ted, you're quintessential wolf and sheeps clothing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard

https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp...EAWJcHlw&q=ted+haggard&rlz=1 CAQRFK_enUS987&oq=ted+&aqs=chrome. 1. 69 i59 j46 i39 j69 i57 j46 i131 i433 i512 j0 i67 j46 i433 i512 j0 i433 i512 j0 i67 j0 i433 i512 l2. 2732 j0 j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.

These dirtbags are grifters and conmen hiding amongst the naive churchgoers.

They arent much different than most Democrats in Congress.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/g...17/id/1104801/

https://rollcall.com/2016/05/13/repo...-jet-26-times/

https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-eps...hervey-1670665

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...crime-charges/

https://www.foxnews.com/media/nonbin...eed-protection

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/democr...-sex-offenders

[JustTK]

I'm not a fan of Dore though. His favored economic policies, which for some strange reason he feels compelled to relate to Russiagate at the end of the video, would make for a much less prosperous and weaker America.

If you don't want to listen to Dore, subscribe to Mate. He is the journalist that does the work. Ne was highly influencial in Russiagate, in the Syria debacle. He is one of the few heroic journalists left. But big props for watching the video.

[JustTK]

How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

In case you haven't noticed, I'm opposed to the Washington dem / RINO / media / Wall St / alphabet agency / military-industrial / ZOG / swamp / deep state.

I'm simply pointing out that due to the Biden regime's incompetence and malice, America is losing its position of global dominance..

It was a Q. But your answer supports what you supposed. Nothing but one side of US corruptiion for another. But always the best is USA outcomes.

[JustTK]

Trump's own Durham Investigation found there was ample reason for and no notable wrongdoing involved in the investigation

Haha, so typical. The video is about Schiff, and you have to make it about Trump. Thats why your party keeps losijng power. You cannot separate lies from reality. You keep voting for criminals.

[Tiny 12]

Did you guys notice when the lab leak theory came into being? It was just after Trump was out of office around April 2021. There were a slew of articles and people talking about where Covid originated from, and I remember hearing a guy named Josh Rogin of the Washington Post on the Joe Rogan show spewing out information about the Wuhan lab and Fauci I had not heard before. It was like some billionaire somewhere said, "Okay, we can trash the naturally occurring Covid theory and now tell people the truth. " And anyone who listened to this information was like Jon Stewart, ranting about how dumb anyone was to believe otherwise.

And now it looks like some billionaire has given the okay on talking crap about the Covid vaccine:

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...73558155165697

Joe Scarborough was "knocked down" for months / weeks after getting the Covid booster, and his wife goes along with it.

Then you have Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, admitting he was wrong about the vaccine.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...doesnt-get-why

It is not as if I did not anticipate this but I though it would happen in 2024 when the legal immunity drug makers have with the vaccine is over.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covi...n-lawsuit.html

What happens next? Well, the vaccines are going to be withdrawn faster than any product in human history once that immunity expires. There might be some 200 page document that a person could sign if they wanted the vaccine going forward but given the drug companies have to be honest about the side effects of the vaccine in said document, I would bet it is more likely than not it will not be offered. The safer course is just to say the vaccines do not work against the newer variants and pull them.

The one thing I can say for certain is with these never mind Democrats it will not bother them in the least. They still believe Russiagate was real; they believe in the naturally occurring Covid theory and that if Hiliary would have been president versus Trump, we would have had no Covid deaths.

So the Covid vaccine may actually be a bigger health crisis than Covid itself but never mind.

I have to disagree with you on this one Elvis. Scarborough says he was knocked down for months or weeks with the COVID disease because he did NOT get the booster. Dilbert's creator isn't the first person I'd go to for COVID advice. Rather, I'd go to my general practitioner, an internal medicine specialist, who's a big believer in the COVID vaccine and boosters. And giving Moderna and Pfizer and other vaccine manufacturers immunity from lawsuits was a great idea. Otherwise the plaintiff's attorneys might be suing them into nonexistence, like they did for a while with manufacturers of silicone breast implants and private planes.

[Elvis 2008]

Stop hitting yourself.

Amen. The Dems were all griping that Trump do something and he did this not that it mattered, but we heard ad nauseam about how if Hiliary or any other Dem were president instead of Trump, there would be fewer deaths.

Well guess what? There are going to be fewer Covid deaths under Biden than Trump.

https://time.com/6249841/covid-19-no...lth-emergency/

For over a year, it has been apparent that many hospitalizations officially classified as being due to COVID-19 are instead of patients without COVID symptoms who are admitted for other reasons but also happen to test positive.

Misclassified hospitalizations obviously suggest there have also been miscategorized deaths, yet a parallel recognition that undoubtedly many official COVID-19 deaths are similarly due to persons dying with instead of from the coronavirus has only begun to emerge. CDC guidelines still stipulate that any death from (any) illness occurring within 30 days of a positive test result automatically be classified as due to COVID-19. Hence, if the current prevalence in the population is, say, 3% (towards the lower end of typical levels during major surges like the present one) then the background prevalence among persons admitted to hospitals for other reasonsand also among those who end up dying would similarly be around 3%. Considering about 9,200 total deaths occur daily in the USA, then in this hypothetical scenario some 275 deaths ascribed to COVID (or approximately two-thirds of the official daily count) would in fact have been due to other causes.

And bam just like that, the lame stream media has concluded that there were fewer Covid deaths under Biden than Trump.

Gosh, if only we had known what the CDC was doing when Trump was in office right? Oh wait, people like me WERE screaming about this. I STILL have not seen one person die due solely to Covid, and yet every day the lame stream media reported the thousands dying OF Covid and not WITH Covid.

And doesn't this put into question the phrama makers and their statements that the vaccine prevented deaths and hospitalizations?

And why is this shit coming out NOW?

[EihTooms]

All good points Elvis. I'm not at all an uncritical fan of Trump's handling of COVID. But he did some good things. I don't think Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden would have gotten the vaccine in peoples' arms as quickly.

There were Caribbean countries which shut down tourism because of COVID. They were really fucked, more than Colombia, because their economies were mostly dependent on the tourists.

Trump's approach, if there was ever one, to National Security with regard to health concerns was a clusterfuck from beginning to end. The dude started creating a Pandemic, any Pandemic just make sure it's a really HUGE and DAMAGING one, as far back as 2018 and right up until he was still asserting it was "disappearing" and "will go away without a vaccine" just days before the November 2020 election. Later was so ashamed of his near zero contribution to getting those vaccines into Americans' arms that he and Melania got the shots in their arms in near total secrecy.

I have provided numerous links citing the when and the how for the above many times here. No one has produced so much as a single report link supporting a contradiction of my report links. No one.

Trump handed over no coherent and viable national response plan for vaccine distribution. At best he was going to shuffle off the responsibility for that to each state, a "plan" almost certain to create his much preferred in-fighting and chaos leading to crap results that he applied to everything else he had no clue how to handle. So 50 states would have found themselves climbing all over each other, competing and bidding into the stratosphere for the first wave of vaccines that Trump fought for a year to convince no one should bother inventing. Reminiscent of The Great Ventilator Wars.

And that is the rosiest view of what Trump's idiotic state-centered non federal rollout plan would have wrought. There would have been entire Red State holdouts for ANY response to Trump's Pandemic, including the vaccines Trump spent critical year 2020 dismissing as unnecessary and just part of a "Democrat Hoax"! That would have only created festering state-wide laboratories for new variants and mutations to thwart the effectiveness of those first vaccines that did manage to get past Trump's "populist" campaign against them.

Besides that, as near as anyone could tell from November 2020 until this very day Trump's only "handover" plan was to dig his heels in, screetch his Big Lie about the election being stolen from him, gather, incite and lead a violent mob of cop-killing, America-hating Insurrectionists to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and try to convince any loon who will listen that Biden isn't even the legitimate POTUS.

So it strains all credibility and defies all available evidence to suggest that in this one wild and crazy exception Trump handed over a coherent, viable vaccine distribution plan to the incoming Biden Administration. Ever.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN29T0FY

Biden plans to partner with state and local governments to establish vaccination spots in conference centers, stadiums and gymnasiums. The new administration will also deploy thousands of clinical staff from federal agencies, military medical personnel and pharmacy chains to increase vaccinations, and make teachers and grocery clerks eligible.

Vaccination programs lagged far behind the Trump administrations target of 20 million Americans inoculated by the end of 2020.