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09-29-21 03:43 #4884
Posts: 1604Actually, it depends
Originally Posted by KilledSoul [View Original Post]
Probably the best we can do is say that at least 9 of the top 10 highest case rates are the ones who voted for the former guy. They would rather kill all trumpers just so they can own the libs. Who said that Republicans were "smart", 'cause this strategy seems counterintuitive.
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09-29-21 03:11 #4883
Posts: 157California continues to have lowest COVID rates in the country
Sept. 27, 2021.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/a...e-16491325.php
Src: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...vid-cases.html.
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09-29-21 02:46 #4882
Posts: 5472Thanks, Gavin and the educated pro-science people of California
I guess the familiar adage still applies; "If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart. And if you are a conservative when you are older, then you should send back your Social Security checks uncashed, never accept Medicare payment for your hospitalization and are only asking to die a horrible and lonely death from Trump's Pandemic virus for your stupidity, sucker."
California continues to have lowest COVID rates in the country
Sept. 27, 2021.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/a...e-16491325.php
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09-28-21 22:27 #4881
Posts: 1604Uneducated?
Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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09-28-21 17:13 #4880
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
There's an old saying "If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart. And if you aren't a conservative when you are older, you have no brain. " Some people grow older but not wiser, those are modern day Democrats who are old enough to know better but don't.
Let's talk with a few Biden voters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GO2jneQJOo
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09-28-21 14:34 #4879
Posts: 1604Yes, but
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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09-28-21 12:20 #4878
Posts: 5472Was this why Trump changed his tune on taking the vaccine?
I wondered why Trump suddenly changed his persistently repeated nearly year long message for everyone not to waste their time and money inventing a vaccine for Trump's Pandemic virus as well as not bothering to assume even the tiniest risk in taking one into that recent tentative and meek semi suggestion from the stage that his MAGA crowd ought to consider getting vaccinated. LOL. For which he got booed so he turned tail and quickly retreated from the idea.
But now it looks like he might have gotten early intel that his MAGA crowd Repub base is voluntarily and permanently removing itself from the voter rolls in disproprtionately high numbers and from his sucker fund raising list due to their Trumpian anti-science, anti-mitigation measures and anti-vax stance.
Red COVID? Coronavirus deaths are highest in counties with the largest share of Trump voters: report.
The vaccination gap between Democrats and Republicans is mirrored by a partisan divide in COVID deaths
September 27,2021.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/re...rt-11632764116
Trump supporters at the "World Wide Rally for Freedom", an anti-mask and anti-vaccine rally in Concord, N.H. A new data analysis finds a partisan gap in COVID vaccination rates, as well as severe COVID illness and death.
President Joe Biden and government health officials have been calling the resurgence in COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths a pandemic of the unvaccinated, which has been exacerbated by the highly contagious delta variant. But a new data analysis also suggests that this has become a pandemic of conservatives.
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09-28-21 08:40 #4877
Posts: 327Sliding rapidly down to a " banana country"
Some cal it shithole to.
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09-28-21 08:33 #4876
Posts: 1127Constitutional Crisis?
"Our constitutional crisis is already here." Is a chilling opinion piece by conservative commentator, Robert Kagan, published in the Washington Post (Sept 23, 2021), where he outlines how the "inevitable" return of Agent Orange, to power in the 2024 Election.
It paints a very stark and grim reality ahead, plague with lots of constitutional challenges and strong-arm tactics that basically amounts to a "win" by intimidation, strategic placement of electoral loyalists and armed "Trumpers" at the ready.
From the article, it looks like we should prepare ourselves for the "return of the orange king"..
Here is a partial snippet / print (sorry, there maybe more, this is what I found): https://electionlawblog.org/?p=124767.
The United States is heading into its greatest political and constitutional crisis since the Civil War, with a reasonable chance over the next three to four years of incidents of mass violence, a breakdown of federal authority, and the division of the country into warring red and blue enclaves. The warning signs may be obscured by the distractions of politics, the pandemic, the economy and global crises, and by wishful thinking and denial. But about these things there should be no doubt:
First, Donald Trump will be the Republican candidate for president in 2024. The hope and expectation that he would fade in visibility and influence have been delusional. He enjoys mammoth leads in the polls; he is building a massive campaign war chest; and at this moment the Democratic ticket looks vulnerable. Barring health problems, he is running.
Second, Trump and his Republican allies are actively preparing to ensure his victory by whatever means necessary. Trump's charges of fraud in the 2020 election are now primarily aimed at establishing the predicate to challenge future election results that do not go his way. Some Republican candidates have already begun preparing to declare fraud in 2022, just as Larry Elder tried meekly to do in the California recall contest.
Meanwhile, the amateurish "stop the steal" efforts of 2020 have given way to an organized nationwide campaign to ensure that Trump and his supporters will have the control.
Over state and local election officials that they lacked in 2020. Those recalcitrant Republican state officials who effectively saved the country from calamity by refusing to falsely declare fraud or to "find" more votes for Trump are being systematically removed or hounded from office. Republican legislatures are giving themselves greater control over the election.
Certification process. As of this spring, Republicans have proposed or passed measures in at least 16 states that would shift certain election authorities from the purview of the governor, secretary of state or other executive-branch officers to the legislature. An Arizona bill flatly states that the legislature may "revoke the secretary of state's issuance or certification of a presidential elector's certificate of election" by a simple majority vote. Some state legislatures seek to impose criminal penalties on local election officials alleged to have committed "technical infractions," including obstructing the view of poll watchers.
The stage is thus being set for chaos. Imagine weeks of competing mass protests across multiple states as lawmakers from both parties claim victory and charge the other with unconstitutional efforts to take power. Partisans on both sides are likely to be better armed and more willing to inflict harm than they were in 2020. Would governors call out the National Guard? Would President Biden nationalize the Guard and place it under his control, invoke the Insurrection Act, and send troops into Pennsylvania or Texas or Wisconsin to quell violent protests? Deploying federal power in the states would be decried as tyranny. Biden would find himself where other presidents have been where Andrew Jackson was during the nullification crisis, or where Abraham Lincoln was after the South seceded navigating without rules or precedents, making his own judgments about what constitutional powers he does and doesn't have.
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09-28-21 05:31 #4875
Posts: 5472Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
Same with the well established trajectories up or down of the unemployment rate, the stock market, inflation and the general economy ocurring at the time of an election and inauguration. They never significantly change just because an election or inauguration took place.
Naturally, that means when an incoming Dem takes over from an outgoing Repub during the usual Great Repub Crash, Recession/Depression etc, the incoming Dem's resultant statistics will be unjustly negatively effected by the crap conditions he inherited.
Likewise, when an incoming Repub takes over from an outgoing Dem during the usual stable, thriving, steadily growing Dem economic expansion during NO Crash or Recession, the incoming Repub's resultant statistics will be unjustly positively effected by the fine conditions he inherited.
That is the case with those Dem vs Repub stats as well.
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09-28-21 05:23 #4874
Posts: 1972Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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09-28-21 04:05 #4873
Posts: 5472Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
Nope. No noticeable difference between the two at all. Doesn't really matter which side you argue for, which one you vote for or who wins. Might as well flip a coin. Or just don't vote or vote for some waste of time third or fourth party candidate.
Sure, other than the radical, polar opposite mindset, philosophy, agenda, methods and, most importantly, results, there is really no difference between Repub and Dem government and economic stewardship. Debating for one side over the other with reliable supporting links, statistics and data is equally hilarious and loony.
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09-28-21 03:42 #4872
Posts: 5472Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
I forgot. Yeah, you really got me with that one.
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09-27-21 23:58 #4871
Posts: 1604Well
Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
Statistics.
The following table compares selected results for the Democratic and Republican presidents, using the Blinder & Watson data (typically Truman's elected term through Obama's first term). The abbreviation "pp" means percentage points.
Democrats Republicans Difference.
Real GDP growth 4.33% 2.54% 1.79 pp.
Job creation rate % 2.59% 1.17% 1.42 pp.
Unemployment rate % 5.64% 6.01% 0.38 pp.
Unemployment rate change -0.83 pp +1.09 pp 1.92 pp.
Inflation rate (GDP deflator) 2.89% 3.44% 0.55 pp.
Budget deficit % potential GDP 2.09% 2.78% 0.69 pp.
Stock market S&P 500 annual return 8.35% 2.70% 5.65 pp.
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09-27-21 21:52 #4870
Posts: 1604The trumpettes want another recount in AZ
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
What trumpers really want is to go back 250 years to when the only people who could vote were:
White.
Straight.
Male.
Property owners.