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06-02-20 09:47 #1126
Posts: 505Were Tired
I look at Dcups comments very disrespectful. The problem here is white America thinks we should not be angry, but we can go back years and show how this country has not honored that all men are created equal creed. Let's start with after world War 11 with the GI bill. Where the government for award of service provided low cost mortgage loans to veterans. The problem was black veterans were denied those mortgage loans and look at Long Island it was written that blacks were not allow to buy houses there even with the GI bill. We can talk about reclining that decimated the black community, bit we will. Leave that for another time.
Let's take my family. My father fought in the Korean War in the last black all infantry regiment, who had to fight their way back into South Korea when his regiment was overrun.
By Chinese troops in North Korea with his unit sustaining a 70% casualty rate. He was shot numerous times and some how made it back. You know what his reward was to make sure he got off the sidewalk when a white person was walking on the side walk even in uniform outside Fort Bennin Georgia. Now Dcups will seriously ask why are we angry. How about my mother who was the first black to graduate from her nursing school and was the top her class. I mean no. 1 and she did not get a job right away. The only reason why she got a job was because so many black oldiers were injured coming back from the Vietnam War. If you know anything about that war blacks took the brunt of the casualties early on in that war. But, Dcups thinks we should not be angry. Now when when my parents decided to buy a house outside of Boston a petition was started to prevent them from buying a house. Yes, honest hard working Americans, the one difference they were black. It took my mother going to the Boston Globe and her story being published that it was ordered that the realtor sell her that home. They have never asked to be treated better just the same.
Fast forward, to me I have done very well in life yet I have been pulled over 30 times by police with guns drawn being called the and-word wondering if I will live through the traffic stop in question. Fortunately, my last one I just won a 7 figure settlement because I got arrested driving a nice car and I have the money to hire the best attorneys and caught them in lie when they wrote there police report. No different on the lie they wrote in the George Floyd police report.
Now maybe you understand why I am angry and I come on here and will not tolerate racists comments, but for that the moderator now reads all my comments before I post. The one thing I will always do is keep it real on here. Call me angry, but I have my reasons.
With respect to Trump. I do not know if he will win, but the demographics are changing so it will. Not be long now before change happens. By the way, Georgia and Arizona are polling close, who would ever think that he will need to shore up Texas so do not be confident that he will be reelected. Just look at that black vote it came out pre Obama numbers with Hilary, she would have won PA, MI and Wisconsin. Now, Dcups if you think the black vote is not coming out for this election you will be sadly mistaken. I guess we might be a little angry.
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06-02-20 08:10 #1125
Posts: 690We've come a long way baby!
Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
"America always wins" No deep rooted flaws in American culture. No sir! "can't we all just get along?Last edited by Beijing4987; 06-02-20 at 08:15. Reason: Addition
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06-02-20 06:55 #1124
Posts: 6432Educate your mind
Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
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06-02-20 05:09 #1123
Posts: 666No money, no honey
Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus [View Original Post]Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw [View Original Post]
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06-02-20 04:51 #1122
Posts: 407Originally Posted by Beijing4987 [View Original Post]
Cornel west is a nobody in American politics. If you don't know that you aren't aware of much.
Slavery was of course an injustice, but 50 yrs after MLK and significant systemic reforms, all African Americans seem to want to do is fight.
Where is the sense of purpose, where is the desire to show everyone that they are worthy of respect. Where is the culture?
Very few and far between. All the black community leaders I see keep screwing the community by blaming others and not for one second looking at the deep rooted cultural flaws as well.
I mean this genuinely. Black America will get nowhere with this approach.
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06-02-20 04:40 #1121
Posts: 407Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
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06-02-20 03:22 #1120
Posts: 539Post Nov 2020
US is in dire trouble, the reserve currency is what worries me, because when it goes we will face collapse.
The candidates are both very poor. The root issue is monetization of the government by companies. Normal people do not get a seat at the table.
As for emptying the swamp, Mr Trump seems to have added new and more ugly rapacious species. At least they are in plain sight and not camouflaged. But that is hardly the point.
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06-02-20 02:30 #1119
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Beijing4987 [View Original Post]
BTW, having witnessed Cornel West prancing around Princeton for years in his ridiculous costume no doubt believing he's a latter-day W. E. b. Dubois, it is impossible to take the man seriously. What we found really too funny was a letter from West that our premier banker (a man with a sense of humor) had framed and hanging prominently on his office wall. Meant from West as compliment to the bank staff, it began: "In all my years of banking. " What prompted the letter? We were informed that Dr. West kept bouncing checks and expected personal service in balancing his checkbook.
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06-02-20 02:22 #1118
Posts: 1762Originally Posted by Artisttyp [View Original Post]
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06-02-20 01:42 #1117
Posts: 3854Originally Posted by RunMann [View Original Post]
The guy is a buffoon and is / was Obama's valet. The white uncle tom. You already know what this guy is going to cater to and do. It is so predictable.
The result will be a lopsidedness in the other direction. More money and taxes will leave the country and you will have more of the same negativity yet no more white knights on dark horses to set you free.
Bottom line is shit is fucked up unless we find a very hip president with a knack for international relations and economic affairs.
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06-02-20 01:31 #1116
Posts: 5465Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
We can't cite everything in every post or they'll be even longer than they are already. LOL. But I also notice you didn't mention the Camp David Accords that Carter brokered. That was foreign policy, too. A helicopter crashed during a rescue attempt and you cite that as a Carter foreign policy disaster? Really?
The Arab Oil Embargo and subsequent gas lines and skyrocketing prices were already happening by 1973/1974, before Carter was elected.
If you concluded that I meant for Carter to be disassociated from his great Fed Chairman Volker and his methods for taming hyper-inflation, then I really failed to convey my point. I meant to assert that Carter knew exactly what Volker would do to solve that problem, that he went through 2-3 other Fed Chairmen until he got the one he knew would conduct the difficult but necessary solution for it and that Carter expected him to do the right thing to solve the problem DESPITE his full awareness that his doing so during an election year would very likely produce the second term loss you rightly pointed out he got.
I also only said the recession that began during his presidency was the briefest one on record and almost did not even qualify as one by the classic definition, not that it "in fact, wasn't even a recession at all!" So I am glad you got a good chuckle out of something that popped into your mind. But it wasn't from anything you read in my post.
Finally, the fact that he alienated or annoyed both Democrats and Republicans in Congress doesn't disturb me at all. I'm not even sure why that isn't a factor for all the "Bothsiders" out there (and I am definitely not one) to consider him one of the best presidents of all time.
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06-01-20 20:02 #1115
Posts: 1762If Trump wins reelection after the deep hole he has dug for himself; he will be the greatest comeback winner ever or maybe Joe will be known as a bigger choke artist than Hillary. The election is Joe's to lose now with so much turmoil in America and Trump's own party turning against him, how can Joe lose? Pick the winner and place your bets.
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06-01-20 18:57 #1114
Posts: 6432Jimmy Carter
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I could go on, but let me turn to domestic policy. That was a good chuckle reading about how the creation of the recession wasn't his fault, and in fact, wasn't even a recession at all! Nice try! Tell that to the American people who spent an eternity waiting in lines to get gas for their cars. Quite expensive gas too if you could even find it. Try telling that to Americans who listened to his pathetic speech advising them to turn their thermostats down to 68 degrees, in what they believed (rightly or wrongly) should be the land of plenty. You note that Volker was Carter's Fed Chairman, but then in the next breath seem to think that Carter can somehow be disassociated from what Volker did. As you say, Volker was his Fed Chairman! So he Jimmy Carter had to bear the full responsibility for intentionally making a "not lousy economy lousy" LOL! He was another outsider who came to Washington not wanting to learn how to get things done, he alienated people on both the left and the right (including Tip O'Neill who should have been an ally), and was mostly ineffectual and weak (including with his zero-based budgeting scheme). He ultimately failed on both the domestic and the foreign policy fronts.
Now, I'm not here to argue with you, and will say no more on the subject, other than this. The American people resoundingly agreed with me that Carter had to go after four years, and that he was not what America needed in order to succeed into the future. In the end, that's all that mattered. He lost to Ronald Reagan in an embarrassing, lopsided whipping of 489 electoral votes to just 49 for Carter. The domestic "misery index", among other things (like calling for human rights on the one hand, while tying himself to a despot like the Shah on the other), did him in. Jimmy Carter is a very nice and decent man, who most would agree has made his best and finest contributions to society after his one and only (failed) term in the White House.
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06-01-20 18:12 #1113
Posts: 690Dogs?
Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
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06-01-20 18:08 #1112
Posts: 5465Originally Posted by Beijing4987 [View Original Post]
Carter's big problem as a president was he was a stiff, not fun and entertaining. Reagan was entertaining. I even voted for Reagan in 1980 because he was entertaining. Of course, I was young and dumb. And not paying much attention to things like average job gains, GDP growth rates, budgets, etc. in those days. I thought it didn't matter who was president. LOL. That's dumb.
I also think West takes a cheap shot at Reagan with the actor stuff (if all of that is a quote from West). And in so doing, he misses an opportunity to say something more important about him. The damage Reagan did wasn't because he was suffering from early stage Alzheimer's Disease. It was his policy results, not his mental state. He was perfectly lucid when he promoted and enacted the same favorite failed Republican Supply-Side/Trickle-Down economic policies they have been promoting and enacting whenever they get the chance going all the way back to the mid-1920's. And triggering massive economic downturns and dangerously widening the income gap virtually every time they get their way on it.
As a Republican, Reagan would have promoted and enacted that favorite Republican agenda whether he was capable of completing every Einstein calculation by memory or thought his wife was a tree stump.