American Politics

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Yep, couldn't agree more!

Of the Trump MAGA faithless cult herd, perhaps even more than any other of those running for the presidency, thus far (than even perhaps DeSantis), this guy has his head, so far up Trump's ass, he could literally, "go where no other MAGA cult faithless has gone before".

But I couldn't help but notice at the debate (from what little I saw), it was viscerally clear, there seems to be a certain amount of disdain, jealousy and contempt, amongst the other candidates for the dude. ".

Disdain jealousy contempt.

Yes a bitchy crowd of losers they are jajajaja.

They hate him "because they ain't him" LMAO.

https://www.newsmax.com/mclaughlin/c...29/id/1132489/

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Good memory Xpartan. Indeed, they literally got down on their knees and begged Nader not to run. See 3 minutes and 30 seconds into this vid.

https://videosift.com/video/Bill-Mah...der-not-to-run

Tooms' characterization of Maher as pro-Republican and condemnation of both Maher and Moore is curious. As is his faith in the mainstream Democratic Party and his worship of every Democratic President of the past 100 years. Buy hey, it's harmless, especially since he escaped hyper-blue California for Thailand. And a lot healthier than being a Branch Davidian or member of the Jonestown church."

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...utm_term=first

[EihTooms]

Yes, George W. Bush was a crappy president, as were Barrack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden. Under their watch federal debt held by the public has increased from a very reasonable 33% of GDP to 95%. And that's only going to go up, given that Biden and a Democratic Congress legislated over 5 trillion in unfunded spending in 2021 and 2022, much of which hasn't kicked in yet. The country just gets closer and closer to insolvency. At current interest rates around 5%, the annual interest expense on federal debt held by the public is $1.2 trillion per year! Compare to federal revenue of around $4.9 trillion per year. Presidents have the power to veto spending bills. Too bad they don't use it.

Add to that, Bush played a large part in starting an unnecessary war.

Would Gore and Kerry have done better than Bush? Well, I think they would have been less likely to invade Iraq. But on the other hand, they're environmental zealots. They likely would have unleashed stupid policies like Jimmy Carter's price controls on natural gas. If those hadn't been lifted in the Reagan administration, natural gas would never have substituted for coal to the extent it did. Domestic natural gas not only provided cheap energy, but resulted in much lower carbon emissions. Our carbon emissions have fallen almost as much as Europe's with a lot less pain..

Woulda Coulda Shoulda.

If the past 100 years of crap results Coulda happened under Dems instead of under Repubs and all those positive results Coulda happened under Dems instead of under Repubs, they Woulda.

But they didn't.

[Beijing4987]

Cool 😎 Hand Trump: "I can eat 50 eggs!" What we have here is failure to Communicate.

[Tiny 12]

So it was election year 2004, not election year 2000 as I had previously cited as the year Bill Maher was at least as effective as any other media pundit in helping GW Bush win Florida by 535 votes and thereby take the White House. We know it was 2004 because the time reference right at the beginning of the clip has Nader alluding to Bush already being president.

Yes, George W. Bush was a crappy president, as were Barrack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden. Under their watch federal debt held by the public has increased from a very reasonable 33% of GDP to 95%. And that's only going to go up, given that Biden and a Democratic Congress legislated over 5 trillion in unfunded spending in 2021 and 2022, much of which hasn't kicked in yet. The country just gets closer and closer to insolvency. At current interest rates around 5%, the annual interest expense on federal debt held by the public is $1.2 trillion per year! Compare to federal revenue of around $4.9 trillion per year. Presidents have the power to veto spending bills. Too bad they don't use it.

Add to that, Bush played a large part in starting an unnecessary war.

Would Gore and Kerry have done better than Bush? Well, I think they would have been less likely to invade Iraq. But on the other hand, they're environmental zealots. They likely would have unleashed stupid policies like Jimmy Carter's price controls on natural gas. If those hadn't been lifted in the Reagan administration, natural gas would never have substituted for coal to the extent it did. Domestic natural gas not only provided cheap energy, but resulted in much lower carbon emissions. Our carbon emissions have fallen almost as much as Europe's with a lot less pain.

Gore and Kerry, if they believed then as they do now, would have kneecapped our domestic oil and gas industry, and greatly run up the price of gasoline and home heating and the like. And for what? The reduction in USA Emissions would have been a drop in the bucket compared to what has and will come down the pike from China and other developing countries.

Furthermore, contrary to your beliefs, the 2008 recession would have happened if Gore or Kerry had been president.

[EihTooms]

Good memory Xpartan. Indeed, they literally got down on their knees and begged Nader not to run. See 3 minutes and 30 seconds into this video.

https://videosift.com/video/Bill-Mah...der-not-to-run

Tooms' characterization of Maher as pro-Republican and condemnation of both Maher and Moore is curious. As is his faith in the mainstream Democratic Party and his worship of every Democratic President of the past 100 years. Buy hey, it's harmless, especially since he escaped hyper-blue California for Thailand. And a lot healthier than being a Branch Davidian or member of the Jonestown church.

Kudos to Tiny for providing perhaps the best video evidence yet of Bill Maher's virulent pro-Repub Bothsiderism / Neithersiderism. Watch the video. So it was election year 2004, not election year 2000 as I had previously cited as the year Bill Maher was at least as effective as any other media pundit in helping GW Bush win Florida by 535 votes and thereby take the White House. We know it was 2004 because the time reference right at the beginning of the clip has Nader alluding to Bush already being president.

By then GW Bush had already flushed the historic Clinton-Gore Peace and Prosperity, Record High Jobs Creation, No Recession, Record High Stock Market Gains and Budget Surplus down the shitter with his typically idiotic Repub tax policies and it was certain he would produce a much, much worse Repub economic disaster in a second term if only America would give him the chance.

And by then he had already plunged us into another unwinnable quagmire Repub war or two or three due to his criminally negligent National Security coma ushering in the Attack on 9-11 and about 1000 lies from him and his VP to make sure we got stuck in a long term war or two as surely as Ike got us stuck in the Vietnam War.

Yet there was Bill Maher having his previous disastrous potus election year endorsement, Ralph Nader, as his special guest in order to make sure any and every possible Dem voting fence-sitter and potential Third Party voter in or outside of his audience would tune in to hear Nader trash the Dems as though they are fuck ups "equal" to the 100 years long Repub fuck ups.

Naturally, with his special guest drawing in the proper pre-election audience, within the first 1-2 minutes of Nader's introduction and appearance, Maher shouts to him and to his tv audience, "You're right! The Dems don't deserve our votes"!

Thanks again, Bill. This time for 2004.

Yeah, yeah, I know. His carefully planned and staged showy, theatrical joke of falling to his knees later and begging Nader not to run this time was a blatantly obvious attempt to come up with something silly to draw his greater audience's eyes, ears, attention and memory to that moment instead of to how he helped so much to get us into that Repub mess in the first place.

The same with his $1 million donation to the Obama campaign after, sure enough, things got even worse for America and the rest of the world during W's second term.

And it looks like it did work to draw attention and memory away from Maher's earlier contributions to creating that colossal Repub mess. On some people.

But it didn't work on me. I would not have forgotten it if he had sent that $1 million check directly to me in 2008. Big fuckin' deal.

Every message from Bill Maher to his particular audience on his Real Time show and especially his Club Random show to the effect of "The Dems are crazy!" or "The Dems don't deserve our votes", of which there are many, on virtually every show, is worth a hell of a lot more than a mere $1 million in election campaign donations to Trump, DeSantis, Ramaswamy and anybody else in his beloved "Bothsider / Neithersider" Repub Party.

[EihTooms]

This is Fat Nixon's anus before incarceration 。 And in prison O.

Does Georgia still impose chain-gang punishment?

If so, several hours a day for a few years swinging that weed whacker along the side of the road will do wonders for his golf swing. And the ankle bracelets will help to fix the proper stance too.

Of course, Repub pol men are known for their inordinate attention to maintaining a wide stance whenever they are in intimate communication / proximity to other men. And that will certainly come in handy for him in the showers and bunk after a good days work on the chain-gang.

It will be easier than usual for Trump to spin that outcome into another great Trump "win" to keep his Repub cult followers cheering and sending him large portions of their entitlement checks.

[EihTooms]

Good memory Xpartan. Indeed, they literally got down on their knees and begged Nader not to run. See 3 minutes and 30 seconds into this video.

https://videosift.com/video/Bill-Mah...der-not-to-run

Tooms' characterization of Maher as pro-Republican and condemnation of both Maher and Moore is curious. As is his faith in the mainstream Democratic Party and his worship of every Democratic President of the past 100 years. Buy hey, it's harmless, especially since he escaped hyper-blue California for Thailand. And a lot healthier than being a Branch Davidian or member of the Jonestown church.

Uh. That was the 2004 too little too late Maher+Moore atonement for the historic damage they'd done to the country and most of the world with their unthinking Third Party / Nader campaign in 2000.

Notice the time reference in your link?

[EihTooms]

Wacky sometimes as he is, didn't he and Moore get on their knees before Nader begging him to withdraw?

I know that was wacky too, but "as responsible" is a bit too strong.

Yes, I am aware of Maher and Moore's too little too late 2004 atonement for the damage they'd done to the country and much of the world by pushing their pro Repub Third Party / Nader campaign in 2000.

It was too little too late because by 2004 GW Bush's horrific National Security negligence and lies had blundered us into another record long quagmire of an unwinnable war a la Ike's Vietnam War and he proudly proclaimed himself a "Wartime President" with the usual advantage being voters were reluctant to change horses midstream.

And that is why 2004 was the only time a Repub so-called potus candidate got more votes than his Dem opponent since 1988.

Meanwhile, Bill Maher constantly campaigns in favor of every Repub candidate on the one most important campaign issue and in the usual pro Repub Bothsider way; by asserting that he is certainly in favor of "What the Repub Party stands for; Smaller government, lower taxes".

LOL.

As though any Repub in 100 years has reduced the size and expense of government or in any way left more money in more Americans' pockets comparable to what Dems typically do after their empty campaign claims to do so and their piddling inconsequential marginal tax cuts for top margins is immediately followed by another, another and another Great Repub Stewardship Disaster, Massive Jobs Destruction and Great Repub Recession / Depression always requiring huge increases in deficit spending to pull us out of it.

Now look what you did. You got Tiny all excited and confused about Maher+Moore 2000 vs Maher+Moore 2004 in a hot passion over the possibility that he might be able to recruit a few more pro Repub Bothsiders here on the confusion. LOL.

[MarquisdeSade1]

They still vote for their masters as the DNC dictates.

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/202...s-than-slaves/

[MarquisdeSade1]

Maher is as responsible as any media celebrity for puting GW.

Bush in office and the Repub horrors that resulted with his constant "Third Party" drumbeat campaigning for Ralgh Nader along with his repeated guest Michael Moore in 2000.

Just 535 votes in Florida. Thanks, Bill and Mike.

Maher actually spent most of the 2 hour interview with idiot Ramaswaamy coaching him up on how to swing Dem votes his way in order win, reveled in the Dem Bashing Party that occupies much of his Real Time show and almost all of his Club Random interviews and assured him and his audience he could and would vote for a "normal" Repub any time.

As if the "normal" Repubs like Hoover, Nixon, Reagan, Bush2, etc did not and would not push for and achieve the exact same policies with the exact same disastrous stewardship results as an obvious loon like Trump.

It is possible that Maher has not even noticed that over the past 100 years of history. He appears to believe some hogwash like it is all about a pols demeanor and not that pol's party's policies and results.

Which makes him the classic pro Repub Bothsider he is and is needed in the media to help economic disastrous Repub policies prevail every time one of his Bothsides Repub darlings is handed the job.

In the 1980's and a even member of the ACLU.

Until that serial rapist called Bubba came along with his hideous husband in 1991 and destroyed the DNC with the "3rd way".

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...et-needs-poor/

[Tiny 12]

Wacky sometimes as he is, didn't he and Moore get on their knees before Nader begging him to withdraw?

I know that was wacky too, but "as responsible" is a bit too strong.

Good memory Xpartan. Indeed, they literally got down on their knees and begged Nader not to run. See 3 minutes and 30 seconds into this video.

https://videosift.com/video/Bill-Mah...der-not-to-run

Tooms' characterization of Maher as pro-Republican and condemnation of both Maher and Moore is curious. As is his faith in the mainstream Democratic Party and his worship of every Democratic President of the past 100 years. Buy hey, it's harmless, especially since he escaped hyper-blue California for Thailand. And a lot healthier than being a Branch Davidian or member of the Jonestown church.

[Beijing4987]

This is Fat Nixon's anus before incarceration 。 And in prison O.

[Spidy]

A new MAGA slogan has just been inspired from the Donnie "the Devil" J. Dummkopf's mug-shoot.

Due to his "mob boss", "gangster" and "street creed" inspired Trump mug-shoot, MAGA nation, rallies to embrace and honor their new "thuggin' ain't nothing but a thing" politics, with a new slogan.

So as not to confuse the MAGA faithless, they will still use MAGA, but instead, felt the need for the new slogan to reflect more of that "gangster" style politics they've now embraced and decided on using the slogan ..."My Ass Got Arrested (MAGA)", a sort of homage/tribute, if you will, to Jan 6th (...kkkk!).

[Xpartan]

Maher is as responsible as any media celebrity for puting GW.

Bush in office and the Repub horrors that resulted with his constant "Third Party" drumbeat campaigning for Ralgh Nader along with his repeated guest Michael Moore in 2000.

Just 535 votes in Florida. Thanks, Bill and Mike.

Wacky sometimes as he is, didn't he and Moore get on their knees before Nader begging him to withdraw?

I know that was wacky too, but "as responsible" is a bit too strong.