American Politics

[Tiny 12]

People use "banana republic" as a crutch to say that a President can't possibly commit crimes. ALL human are capable of committing crimes.

All Americans DO commit crimes. Harvey Silverglate, the attorney, board member of the ACLU, and former Harvard Law school professor who wrote "Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent", says we commit an average of three crimes a day. We incarcerate more people per capita than any other country in the world. The Republicans want to put the Democratic Politicians in jail, and the Democrats want to put the Republican Politicians in jail. Democrats want to incarcerate white businessmen, and Republicans want to jail young black men.

A friend who's an attorney, a Democrat, and more partisan than Tooms believes the most likely reason Trump will go to jail will be because of the classified records violations. Well, say we throw him in the slammer for that. Then what do we do with Joe Biden and Mike Pence? They undoubtedly violated classified records laws too.

You put Trump in front of a jury in Washington, D.C. and there's a pretty good chance he'll be convicted even if the prosecution has a weak case. Ditto for Biden in Amarillo, Texas.

I believe you need a damn good reason to put an ex-president in jail. And like I said, there may be one related to Trump's post 2020 election shenanigans. As to confidential records and Stormy Daniels, that's just nuts. If Trump gets convicted on those charges then yeah, it's a sign we're becoming a banana republic. And yes, maybe the Donald contributed as much to that as anyone. Remember he tried to get the Justice Department to prosecute Hillary Clinton. Since I'm the founder of the Free Markets Church of Tiny, I'll quote a couple of relevant Biblical passages here,

He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth

Well, I say bull shit to that. Somebody just needs to say enough is enough and stop trying to put the other side in jail.

[CheckMate1]

I can't argue with that. I don't know whether the idea to publish all trades in real time is a Checkmate original, but if so kudos. That's a great idea.

I'm not sure whether or not I agree with "1". Here in the United States of America, we haven't ever sent an ex President to jail. That's part of what separates us from banana republics. We shouldn't even have to think about this. But Trump may have crossed the line after the 2020 election.

People use "banana republic" as a crutch to say that a President can't possibly commit crimes. ALL human are capable of committing crimes.

[Tiny 12]

They are the governors of their states, within their rights to govern the way they want. So, no, I would not call them that. People can argue whether that's poor judgement or not, but that's the extend of the discord.

I think a way to get rid of corruption, or potential of, is to create a new amendment that states:

1. President's term in office is immunized, and statute of limitations of all crimes, with the exception of murder, shall begin at the end of the president's term. If convicted, all former presidential perks will be rescinded and disqualify from all future public post. This will provide the disincentive of doing something corrupt while in office. It does beg the question of "is anyone above the law?" However, it clears the wishy washy way of how the DOJ interpret their own standing on not to prosecute a sitting president.

2. Supreme Court Justices. Can not accept any gift from anyone.

3. (I think this is the biggest issue) Member of Congress / Senate; President; Supreme Court Justices shall have all assets managed in a blind trust or be published to the public. All trades would be reveal in real time by the brokerage firms.

I can't argue with that. I don't know whether the idea to publish all trades in real time is a Checkmate original, but if so kudos. That's a great idea.

I'm not sure whether or not I agree with "1". Here in the United States of America, we haven't ever sent an ex President to jail. That's part of what separates us from banana republics. We shouldn't even have to think about this. But Trump may have crossed the line after the 2020 election.

[CheckMate1]

Gentlemen, you're a bit too fixated on word choice and political correctness. I simply believe that, figuratively speaking, Biden and the majority of Congressional Democrats are thieves. At least socialists like Hugo Chavez pay compensation and leave the factories, oil and gas fields, and power plants standing after they nationalize industries. Through EPA regulations, the Biden administration wants to use a backdoor mechanism to shut down oil and gas fields and power plants. And some of his tax proposals border on thievery as well, although admittedly they're not as extreme as Bernie Sanders' or Elizabeth Warren's.

Remember when Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis told the mayors and city councils in their states that they couldn't institute lockdowns or mask mandates? They were called mass murderers more than once. Now I'm no lockdown lover, but I can kind of see their point, in a figurative sense. But no, the governors weren't going around killing people and burying them in big pits. Anyway, I don't think you'd be coming to the defense of Abbott or DeSantis over the "Mass Murderer" label.

They are the governors of their states, within their rights to govern the way they want. So, no, I would not call them that. People can argue whether that's poor judgement or not, but that's the extend of the discord.

I think a way to get rid of corruption, or potential of, is to create a new amendment that states:

1. President's term in office is immunized, and statute of limitations of all crimes, with the exception of murder, shall begin at the end of the president's term. If convicted, all former presidential perks will be rescinded and disqualify from all future public post. This will provide the disincentive of doing something corrupt while in office. It does beg the question of "is anyone above the law?" However, it clears the wishy washy way of how the DOJ interpret their own standing on not to prosecute a sitting president.

2. Supreme Court Justices. Can not accept any gift from anyone.

3. (I think this is the biggest issue) Member of Congress / Senate; President; Supreme Court Justices shall have all assets managed in a blind trust or be published to the public. All trades would be reveal in real time by the brokerage firms.

[JustTK]

Very powerfully spoken:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuPISYnoBsM

[Tiny 12]

No.

Yes.

Exactly!

You don't like the guy and his policies, and that's fine.

But at least you can see why that "criminal syndicate" thingy didn't seat well with me.

I agree. Don't like his policies, cool. We can debate on it.

Accusing someone of a crime, have some evidence, not just hearsays, rumors, or conspiracy theories.

Side note, when the person who's leading the charge says, "Well, unfortunately we can't track down the informant. We are hopeful the informant is still there," a. How do you lose informant? Be. Couldn't you have recorded your conversations?

Gentlemen, you're a bit too fixated on word choice and political correctness. I simply believe that, figuratively speaking, Biden and the majority of Congressional Democrats are thieves. At least socialists like Hugo Chavez pay compensation and leave the factories, oil and gas fields, and power plants standing after they nationalize industries. Through EPA regulations, the Biden administration wants to use a backdoor mechanism to shut down oil and gas fields and power plants. And some of his tax proposals border on thievery as well, although admittedly they're not as extreme as Bernie Sanders' or Elizabeth Warren's.

Remember when Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis told the mayors and city councils in their states that they couldn't institute lockdowns or mask mandates? They were called mass murderers more than once. Now I'm no lockdown lover, but I can kind of see their point, in a figurative sense. But no, the governors weren't going around killing people and burying them in big pits. Anyway, I don't think you'd be coming to the defense of Abbott or DeSantis over the "Mass Murderer" label.

[Tiny 12]

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-m...en-is-running/

Good link Marquis. One thing to add, if Biden and Hillary Clinton hadn't run in 2020 and 2016 respectively, the Democratic nominee could very well have been a bsc Progressive like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. Reasonable Democrats, like say Michael Bloomberg, Michael Bennet, Steve Bullock and John Hickenlooper never got traction. So Biden was the "closest to moderate" popular candidate the Democratic Party could come up with. The Democrats presumably would have more difficulty in the general election with a candidate like Sanders, than Biden. If the same situation exists in 2024 then maybe a Biden candidacy makes a lot of sense, from the Democrats' perspective.

The Progressives were able to have their cake and eat it too though. Biden was more electable than Sanders. And after the general election, he swung to the left. For example, it's hard to know whether Biden or Elizabeth Warren, through her accolytes installed throughout his administration, is calling the shots for financial regulation. And the Biden administration is pushing the Green agenda as hard as it can without ruining the Party's chances at the polls.

[CheckMate1]

No.

Yes.

Exactly!

You don't like the guy and his policies, and that's fine.

But at least you can see why that "criminal syndicate" thingy didn't seat well with me.

I agree. Don't like his policies, cool. We can debate on it.

Accusing someone of a crime, have some evidence, not just hearsays, rumors, or conspiracy theories.

Side note, when the person who's leading the charge says, "Well, unfortunately we can't track down the informant. We are hopeful the informant is still there," a. How do you lose informant? Be. Couldn't you have recorded your conversations?

[Xpartan]

Do you think I'm that stupid Xpartan?

No.

Did you read the entire post?

Yes.

No, raising taxes and imposing crazy, draconian regulations are not crimes, in the legal sense. Handing out subsidies to favored industries and campaign contributors usually isnt either.

Exactly!

You don't like the guy and his policies, and that's fine.

But at least you can see why that "criminal syndicate" thingy didn't seat well with me.

[MarquisdeSade1]

This is a must watch for half the participants here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX74Hij3aMM

And its funny as FK for the rest.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...hem-seriously/

[MarquisdeSade1]

Senile, right. Like Vincent Gigante.

Great clip.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...-twitter-soon/

[MarquisdeSade1]

Senile, right. Like Vincent Gigante.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-m...en-is-running/

[Tiny 12]

Yet they keep calling President Biden "senile". It makes one wonder if they know the meaning of the word.

Senile, right. Like Vincent Gigante.

[Tiny 12]

Hate the guy all you want, but criminal syndicate? None of the talking points in your post (even if some of them weren't outright ridiculous) don't rise to the level of criminality. You're talking about a dude who started making some more-or-less serious money only AFTER he stopped being Vice President. All he had to do to keep that Ka-Ching for good, is refrain from politics till the end of his natural life.

Do you think I'm that stupid Xpartan? Did you read the entire post? No, raising taxes and imposing crazy, draconian regulations are not crimes, in the legal sense. Handing out subsidies to favored industries and campaign contributors usually isnt either.

I don't disagree with you. I will say that Biden exercised extremely poor judgement in loading Hunter onto that plane when he went to China as Vice President. And he shouldn't have telegraphed to the IRS and Justice Department that his son “did nothing wrong.” I read an IRS agent investigating Hunter had to get into the whistle blower program, presumably because higher ups figured tangling with Hunter wouldn't be good for their careers. Shades of Lois Lerner. Obama telegraphed to her that he didn't want any pro Republican organizations approved by the IRS, and she complied.

[PVMonger]

Damn. Repubs must be dumb as fuck if they can't uncover, reveal, charge, indict and convict "the Don", "the Big Guy" Joe Biden on all those terrible crimes you cited.

Especially with Biden being so old, confused and addle-brained I bet he would mistake a clear photo of his wife for a sexual assault accuser "not remotely his type" multiple times under oath even with millions of dollars riding on it.

Maybe all those Repubs missed it because they were blinded by light from Jewish Space Lasers.

Yet they keep calling President Biden "senile". It makes one wonder if they know the meaning of the word.