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02-15-23 03:59 #11909
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
B. I've been tag teamed enough by you gentlemen of the left to know it's no fun fighting the good fight alone. Chris needed some help.
C. I'm not ultra right wing. I'm a Libertarian / Republican who believes in a social safety net. And I'm not an anti-Semite. In fact, I believe Jews of European origin are right up there with overseas Chinese as some of the most brilliant and industrious people on the planet.* Chris and I have not engaged on this issue. I'm sure if we do, it will be in a mutually respectful manner, assuming we disagree.
Finally, I'm not a bigot. I've been clear on this. I do believe certain people, and their children, and their children's children, etc., have been disadvantaged in America, and the Democratic Party bears more responsibility than Republicans. And I've outlined steps, "bottom up" ways to improve the condition of the less fortunate among us, that would be far preferable to and far more effective than the Progressive Democrats' "top down" strategy of robbing the entrepreneurs and the businessmen and the investors and those among us who work the hardest. Instead of building up the poor, the Progressive Democratic Politicians' strategy is to drag down the rich, to make us more "equal."
Footnote:
*except for Paul Krugman, who is a dumb ass
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02-15-23 02:41 #11908
Posts: 5452Uh. Yeah.
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Oh, a Leonard Nimoy-hosted tv entertainment show in the 1970's blows the whole thing apart for you?
Anybody else at the University of Alabama you'd like to go with vs NASA and the overwhelming consensus of studies?
Leonard's entertainment tv show might have been written and produced a tad early for this development re a favorite winger distraction:
Fact check: False claim the term 'global warming' was rebranded to 'climate change'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...e/10957295002/
BONUS! Here are a few more funny headlines and stories with made up photos and made up "facts" from one of your favorite fake news sources:
https://boxden.com/showthread.php?t=2489965
https://syndication.bleacherreport.c...lines.amp.html
https://archives.cjr.org/the_audit/t...s_disgrace.php
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02-14-23 22:50 #11907
Posts: 1956Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
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02-14-23 20:25 #11906
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I believe she's right in about 30% of what she's saying. And as to the rest, well it's a good illustration of what I posted yesterday:
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
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02-14-23 17:10 #11905
Posts: 1781Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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02-14-23 14:52 #11904
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
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02-14-23 14:44 #11903
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Others have debunked much of your baseless propaganda, but I'll add a few blows for fun.
"Climate change": I've attached a graph showing reality vs climate alarmist predictions as provided by the eminent climatologist Judith Curry. https://judithcurry.com/2015/12/17/c...imate-reality/.
Beyond the proven facts above, we can simply use memory and common sense in comparing things that were being said about the climate 20 years ago. By 2023, we were told that New York would be underwater, the polar ice caps would have completely melted, and there would be no polar bears left.
In fact, as you may have noticed, none of those things happened. There are more polar bears now than there were 10 years ago.
Fake news has been at this for a while: here is an article from 1988 in which it was claimed that rising sea levels would overwhelm the Maldives within 30 years (spoiler alert: it's been 35 years and the Maldives is still exactly the same as it always was). https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/102074798.
Ten years before that, however, they weren't droning on about global warming but global cooling. Here's a documentary on PBS fronted by Leonard Nimoy from the late 70's which claimed an Ice Age was on the way! Beam me up Scottie! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tAYXQPWdC0.
As can be seen above, this entire so-called "climate change" nonsense is a transparent scam, designed to strip yet more rights and wealth from regular heritage Americans. Look out for climate lockdowns coming soon, with armed deep state agents destroying everyone's livelihoods and liberties, based on the covid lockdowns.
Onto the Biden laptop: the most troubling aspect of the story is not just that the democrats attempted to censor information, but the FBI and other alphabet agencies did so on their behalf: https://twitter.com/RepStefanik/stat...3115284090880?.
Further proof, if any more was needed, that these agencies are irreparably biased toward the leftist Agenda, and no longer fit for purpose.
In addition, fully 53% of those made aware of the Biden criminality would have changed their vote in 2020, which would have put Trump way over the top even despite the massive mail-in ballot rigging carried out in democrat shithole cities.
Obama regime spying on opposition candidate Trump: https://nypost.com/2019/04/15/behind...rump-campaign/.
"Less than a year ago, we learned the Obama administration had used a confidential informant — a spy — to approach at least three Trump campaign officials in the months leading up to the 2016 election".
"There is no doubt that the Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign. As Barr made clear, the real question is: What predicated the spying? Was there a valid reason for it, strong enough to overcome our norm against political spying? Or was it done rashly? Was a politically motivated decision made to use highly intrusive investigative tactics".
Actually, as with the big tech censorship, it was worse than merely opposition politicians spying: they were doing so in cahoots with the supposedly impartial FBI. It would be as if the cops discovered that the Watergate burglars were not only spying on democrats but were also FBI agents.
"the FBI's "surveillance" had been authorized by a court. (Needless to say, the former director neglected to mention that the court was not informed that the bureau's "evidence" for the warrants was unverified hearsay paid for by the Clinton campaign.)".
This spying scandal is far worse than Watergate.
Now, the so-called "epidemic" of unarmed black men shot by the police. In the entire year of 2019, a total of 10 (ten) unarmed black Americans were shot dead by police.
Ten. In a country of 330 million people. Yup, it's a true genocide.
Furthermore, most of the ten were "unarmed" in that they were not carrying a firearm, but otherwise violently assaulted police officers, including attacking them with a taser and attempting to run them over with a car.
In reality, blacks are underrepresented in police shootings: "the Manhattan Institute's Heather Mac Donald noted that even when you look at the shootings of armed suspects, factoring in the crime rate, black individuals are less likely to be killed".
"That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the USA And commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population. The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database".
So the police shot dead twice as many whites as blacks despite the fact that blacks commit more than half of violent crime. https://www.westernjournal.com/watch...ngs-black-men/.
Finally, you're right about one thing. Slowing the initial spread of covid saved lives. So I've no doubt you will join me in heartily congratulating President Trump for enforcing a ban on Chinese flights to America as early as January 2020, in the face of hysterical fake news and democratic opposition and shrieks of "racism". If Pelosi and Biden had been in charge, tens of thousands more infected Chinese would have entered and spread throughout the country, with dire results.
Thank you, President Trump.
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02-14-23 10:20 #11902
Posts: 5452Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
- When legislation, government-funded training, oversight and financial disincentives tackle and tamp down "heart disease, cancer, COVID and the flu, homicides, suicides, traffic accidents, etc", get back to me.
- You read the lunatic rantings of Trump-trained anti-vaxxers on THIS site and can't see why almost a solid year of training by their lord and savior telling the world why nobody should bother inventing a vaccine for his Pandemic virus, much less be foolish enough to take one, a year of that leading up to January 20,2021 and beyond, would predictably produce more Trump mass murder victims after that year-long training session was completed rather than before it was completed?
Trump and his Repub accessories to mass murder are still trying to murder many more Americans with their lies about the vaccines. Unfortunately for them, Biden was too historically effective in getting the vaccines Trump and his followers opposed then as now into almost every American, saving millions of American lives and it really annoys the hell out of them.
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02-14-23 09:22 #11901
Posts: 5452Enough of the Lies
Problem is, there is no way Repubs can come within an undemocratic, pro-Repub rigged election margin of "winning" unless they outright lie to the American people:
https://youtu.be/AEqO3m3yf3I
(video, 5 minutes and 38 seconds long).
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02-14-23 05:04 #11900
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
And failed to note that I was looking at the case fatality ratio instead of deaths per 100,000 population. So, I was wrong in what I said above. It looks like Canada came out much better than the USA if you're just looking at deaths per capita. Trudeau must have done a much better job than Biden in managing COVID. (Sarcasm alert.).
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02-14-23 03:52 #11899
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
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02-14-23 03:40 #11898
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
And if it makes you feel better, like Tooms and many other Americans, to believe all of America's problems are based on party affiliation and ignore the real causes, have at it. Trump loving Republicans and Biden loving Democrats have a lot more in common than they think.
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02-14-23 01:32 #11897
Posts: 1116Drivel
Originally Posted by ChrisP
Originally Posted by Chris P [View Original Post]
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02-14-23 01:11 #11896
Posts: 1116Wrong Again...
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
Again I refer you back to the CLEAR delineation of what are BLUE and RED states and not your delusional cherry picking.
Electoral Map: Blue or Red States Since 2000
https://www.270towin.com/content/blue-and-red-states
https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings...rate-by-state/
- 1.NM-(Sw), 2.CA (B), 3.TX (R), 4.MS (R), 5.LA (R), 6.NV (Sw), 7.NY (B), 8.AL (R), 9.FL (Sw), 10.GA (R)
- 11.AZ-(R), 12.AR (R), 13.SC (R), 14.Dist.Col. (Neutral), 15.KY (R), 16.TN (R), 17.NC (SW), 18.WV (R), 19.NJ (R), 20.IL (B)
Oh BTW, it not hard to see why Donnie "the Devil" J. Dummkopf, just loves the "....poorly educated people", that because they seem to be primarily located in red states?
But, Trump aside, AGAIN I'll refer you back to the illiteracy rankings:
Illiteracy Rate by State: In 2023, Red States continue to have the highest levels of illiteracy
https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings...rate-by-state/
Republican-controlled states have higher murder rates than Democratic ones: study
https://news.yahoo.com/republican-co...212137750.html
The study: https://thirdway.imgix.net/downloads...ates-Data.xlsx
Red States receive substantially more federal aid than Blue States ...
https://www.politicscentral.org/red-...n-blue-states/
So it becomes very clear, that since poverty and lack of education are the leading cause of crime and the red states are the most poverty stricken states, and obviously the most illiterate states, one can only come to the indelible and undeniably conclusion, that red states are the most crime ridden states in the country.
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02-14-23 00:48 #11895
Posts: 1781This is how it works
Fascinating show bcos the hosts cover a recent hit piece by the NYT that tries to smear and discredit them and several other podcasts as the biggest sources of misinformation. As you will see, they demonstrate the claims the NYT make as the conspiracy it is. But the whole show is a great example of where we find ourselves in the world of authoritarian lies and censorship of truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG-NEhwaIB8
I don't agree with everything these 2 say, especially their opinion pieces, but they deserrve a lot of respect for having their lives ruined by the state bcos they boldly and correctly stood up for science.