American Politics

[Tiny 12]

Yeah, look at this data: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...y-weapon-used/.

For all the bullshit about rifles, they kill very few people in comparison to handguns or knives.

It is the last one that has gotten me as I have talked to an ER nurse who says they have seen an explosion of stabbings in recent months, and you can guess as to why IMO. Can the police freak out on someone with a knife like they can a gun?

It is pretty obvious the crackdown on rifles is not for public safety based on the data but government safety.

Really? How many of them were carried out with handguns, not AR-15's, in (ahem) democrat-voting urban ghettos?

Why do democrats and fake news endlessly rant about AR-15's...when the majority of shootings are carried out with handguns?

Yeah, I made that point here recently. Deaths from handguns must be at least two orders of magnitude higher than deaths from semiautomatic rifles. So why aren't Democrats trying to do a lot more about the deaths from handguns and stabbings? Because they don't get nearly the political mileage out of that issue that they do out of the AR-15's.

[Tiny 12]

Okay!

PLEASE Spidy. Realize half of what I write is semi-satirical.

[Tiny 12]

This allowed the US to maintain its global supremacy despite decades of clownworld economic policies which have led to a $30 trillion and rising national debt, hundreds of trillions of unfunded liabilities, and the outsourcing of most of our industry.

The Petrodollar is a myth. Always has been.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douglas...h=36edc83f6a14

https://youtu.be/ICSdZbEMZd0

Excellent points gentlemen. Yes, Goatscrot, what currency you use to transact isn't what's important. You can always convert from Renminbi to Euros or Dollars or whatever. And yes Chris, if it weren't for the dollar being the principle reserve currency, we'd be in a world of hurt. The USA can get away with public debt at 100% of GDP, but Argentina or Indonesia sure isn't going to get away with it.

I'm not a fan of the Iranian regime, and sure as hell wish Russia had not gone into Ukraine. But I believe the USA made a big mistake in confiscating the dollar reserves of both countries. That's giving China, Saudi Arabia, and other countries second thoughts about holding lots of dollars.

We've been blessed here in the USA. Other countries send us clothes, washing machines, toys, electronics, and even nubile young Latina strippers and hookers. And what do we send them in return? Dollars. It's a great deal. We get their stuff. They get paper in return. Well, I'm no economist, but I'm fearful a move away from the dollar could bring this all crashing down. And then all those Cuban cuties will end up in Shanghai or Frankfurt instead of Dallas.

[EihTooms]

More truth coming out. USA is a free speech democracy??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD6BAX_IGHg

Trump's own Durham Investigation found there was ample reason for and no notable wrongdoing involved in the investigation of his and his team's extraordinarily tight connection with Russia:

Not a "hoax" Not a "witch hunt".

Trumps Russiagate Redemption Fizzles as Durham Probe Limps Toward a Close.
Trump promised the three-year Durham investigation would reveal conspiracy at the FBI. Instead, its slinking toward an end after failing to uncover the crime of the century.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...toward-a-close

The investigation ended not just with a fizzle, but with a complete reversal of what Donald Trump portrayed, says Barbara McQuade, former U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan and current legal analyst and professor at the University of Michigan Law School.

Worse for Trump, they only uncover additional damning evidence of crimes commited by him and tried to bury it:

Trumps Own Appointees Reportedly Opened Criminal Investigation Into Him As Part Of Durham Russia Probe

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...-russia-probe/

Oops. LOL.

[Tiny 12]

Since you have determined the I don't know what I'm talking about, why don't you come to Chrissie's defense and show some links that show that "Donnie the Dumbass banned all flights from China to the USA and / or that he banned all Chinese from entering the US.

None of them can produce such links, nor of Biden calling Trump a "racist" for it because they don't exist. They don't exist because those things never happened. Yet they agreed that merely saying things happened and were said that in fact never happened or were said was a "good point" to make in a discussion.

Repubs and pro Repub Bothsider / Neithersiders, LOL. What a luxury it must be to simply make stuff up and declare victory for it.

Chris never said any of that. He clearly said the Trump Administration banned "Chinese from coming to America from China. " He never said "Donnie the Dumbass "banned" all flights from China to the USA and / or that he "banned" all Chinese from entering the US." Furthermore, I don't see where Chris ever said that Biden called Trump a racist. I believe he did say some Democrats have called Trump a racist, and that's true.

You gentlemen are guilty of what Tooms is accusing us of. And yes Tooms, I have on several occasions exaggerated some of your more ridiculous points to make them even more ridiculous. I can't recall having done that to PVMonger or anyone else here though. But Chris, to my knowledge, isn't an offender.

And PVMonger, yeah, we get it. Flights from Hong Kong and Macau weren't banned. And Americans were allowed to return from China directly to the USA, although they were subject to tests and quarantines. What did you want to do, leave them stranded in China?

[Tiny 12]

Here is Tooms quoting from the New York Times.

Since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak of a mysterious pneumonialike illness to international health officials on New Years Eve, at least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after President Trump imposed restrictions on such travel, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/u...trictions.html

The article was published on April 4, 2022.

Here's the timeline on travel restrictions from China,

January 28 - The Trump administration gives airlines a heads up that restrictions are being planned
January 31 - Restrictions are announced
February 2 - Restrictions take effect

Using basic math (subtraction) please note that the number of arrivals on flights from China to the USA dropped from about 390,000 in January to about 20,000 per month in February and March. That's a huge drop.

Yes, the first case of COVID was confirmed in Washington state on January 20. But it was contained.

Take a look at COVID deaths for Washington state and California, back to the start of the epidemic. You'll need to click on the following links, then in the drop down box, click on "All time."

https://www.google.com/search?q=COVI...hrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.google.com/search?q=cali...hrome&ie=UTF-8

You'll see that COVID was reasonably well contained on the west coast initially. You didn't see a big pop in deaths in California until December, 2020.

I'd argue that part of the reason that COVID didn't take off on the west coast until later on was because of the restrictions on flights from China. That bought time. By the time deaths took off in California, there was no shortage of good quality masks, and, thanks to Moderna, Pfizer, BionTech, and Operation Warp Speed, we were on the cusp of having a widely available vaccine.

COVID came to the west coast from China. It came to the east coast mostly from Europe. Flights from Europe weren't banned until March 13, 2020.

Take a look at the deaths in New York State. Again, you'll need to change the graph to "All time" with the drop down box.

https://www.google.com/search?q=new+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

A lot of people died in New York in March through May, 2020.

To date 388 per 100,000 people have died from COVID in New York, compared to 250 per 100,000 in California. If you were to attribute all of that difference (and admittedly that's probably not entirely reasonable) to the flight restrictions on Chinese passengers, that's 54,000 lives saved in California, alone!

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

But don't take my word for it. The strongest reason to believe the restrictions saved lives is because Anthony Fauci, Robert Redfield (head of CDC), and others said it did. I heard them say it on television. Here's a transcript, where Fauci says,

"The president's decision to essentially have a major blocking of travel from China, that already had an effect of not seeding the way. In Europe, Italy didn't do that. And I feel so bad because I have so many friends there. They're getting hit hard. What we're doing now with the other travel restrictions, you block infections from coming in. And then within is when you have containment and mitigation. And that's the reason why the kinds of things we're doing that may seem like an overreaction will keep us away from that worst-case scenario."

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/...ry?id=69603230

You did see certain Democrats criticize the travel restrictions on Chinese flights. According to CNN, Biden, at a campaign rally in Iowa just after the travel restrictions were announced, said Trump had a record of "hysterical xenophobia and fear mongering." Then the day afterwards, Biden tweeted, "We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science not Donald Trumps record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency."

So yeah, you can make a case for Biden, than he never intended to relate Trump's xenophobia to the travel restrictions. But it's a weak case IMHO.

There's no doubt though that Sanders criticized the restrictions, as did a number of Democrats in hearings by the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Asia in the days after January 31.

To be fair to these Democrats, the World Health Organization criticized the travel restrictions mightily, as did some public health experts and segments of the anti Trump media.

What's interesting, as late as January 24, Redfield (head of the CDC) didn't think travel restrictions made sense. Actually the Chinese had only confirmed person-to-person transmission a few days earlier. Somehow between January 24 and January 28, when the Trump administration made airlines aware restrictions were on the horizon, the CDC's and Redfield's thinking evolved. I believe the Trump Administration's restrictions were a result of advice from the CDC.

So would Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton have done the same thing? I'm not sure either would have. They have been known to let what's politically correct override common sense. And restrictions on allowing Chinese people to travel to the USA is not politically correct.

Furthermore, Redfield was not inclined to choose political correctness over good sense, good medicine, and good science. He never would have been selected as head of the CDC by a Democratic Administration. He supported mandatory HIV tests for military recruits, with a view towards barring anyone who tested positive. Redfield is one of the strongest heavyweight proponents of the theory that COVID came from the Wuhan lab btw.

[JustTK]

More truth coming out. USA is a free speech democracy??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD6BAX_IGHg

[Goatscrot]

A very important story that hasn't got nearly the coverage it deserves: Saudi Arabia has just agreed to accept Chinese yuan for its oil.

For several decades, Saudi (and through them OPEC) has been a rock-solid US ally, enforcing the petrodollar system. This means (or rather meant) that they would only accept US dollars as payment for oil.

Pretty much everywhere in the world needs oil, so they were all forced to convert their currencies into dollars to obtain it. This allowed the US to maintain its global supremacy despite decades of clownworld economic policies which have led to a $30 trillion and rising national debt, hundreds of trillions of unfunded liabilities, and the outsourcing of most of our industry.

The main reason Saddam and Gaddafi were overthrown by the US was that they both intended to start selling their country's oil in a currency other than the US Dollar. And now the Saudis, the lynchpin of OPEC and the US petrodollar system, are about to do just that. It's over.

Readers should note that less than six years ago President Trump made a hugely successful state visit to Saudi Arabia, in which he cemented ties, made fantastic trade deals which benefitted America and Americans with many billions of dollars and tens of thousands of high-paying jobs, and more broadly and importantly ensured the continued global dominance of the petrodollar and through it the USA.

It has taken just two years of the Biden Vegminstration to undermine and destroy the relationship with the Saudis and the petrodollar system. Really quite astonishing.

Perhaps it was Biden himself saying that Saudi Arabia should be "a pariah state"; or that weird, twitchy, failed wannabe rock star Jew Secretary of State Blinken announcing proudly that he continually browbeats the Saudis at every meeting for their refusal to allow faggots to sodomize each other in public or groom children like civilized countries do; or the abject, shameful weakness shown by Biden in allowing the Taliban to drive America out of Afghanistan and failing to stop Russia invading Ukraine; or a combination of the above. But the outcome is that America is fast losing its global dominance and power, and we will be weaker, poorer, and lesser as a result.

Great job, Sleepy Joe (and your handlers).

The Petrodollar is a myth. Always has been.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douglas...h=36edc83f6a14

https://youtu.be/ICSdZbEMZd0

[Spidy]

Really? How many of them were carried out with handguns, not AR-15's, in (ahem) democrat-voting urban ghettos? ...

I get what your saying Chris. Your solution is to give more people in urban cities AR-15's, just like the people have in the burbs, rural and on the country farms. Brilliant, now why didn't I think of that. You might be right brother Chris, you just might be right!

Handguns, definitely just ain't gonna cut-it, no more, for us city slickers!

Yeah, I guess it's only right, that both urban and rural America, get equally ready for the impending war, known to those on the right as, "Zombie Trannyland: The Dickless Apocalypse War".

Best get ready y'all!

Really? How many of them were carried out with handguns, not AR-15's, in (ahem) democrat-voting urban ghettos? ...

Yes, do tell? How many?

[JustTK]

A very important story that hasn't got nearly the coverage it deserves: Saudi Arabia has just agreed to accept Chinese yuan for its oil.


Perhaps it was Biden himself saying that Saudi Arabia should be "a pariah state"

Am curious Chris. Do you think that there is no end to the lengths that a country should go to for financial gain? I appreciate you don't value to rights of certain sectors of society, but do you not recognise the riights of anyone other than USA, irs allies and those that bend the knee?

[EihTooms]

Stop strawmanning. You've already taken a huge and humiliating L on this. Why keep drawing attention to it?

I didn't say Trump banned all flights from China. There were many US citizens and legal residents there. Can you imagine the hysterical meltdown from the democrat / fake news / leftist judiciary / alphabet agency deep state if he had blocked Americans from returning home? Of course he would not do that.

What he did was ban non-citizens and non-residents from flying to America from the country at the centre of outbreak. There is no doubt that this saved many lives by lessening the initial speed of the spread of the virus, and buying America time to prepare for it.

There is also no doubt that, after the ban became official on January 31st, Biden made a speech later that day calling it "hysterical xenophobia", an allegation he repeated in a tweet the following day.

This is becoming painful to watch even for someone like me who enjoys exposing leftist hypocrisy, wrongheadedness and cognitive dissonance. Please, for the sake of your own mental health, just accept the loss and move on.

In the future, the mental illness known as Trump Derangement Syndrome will be studied intensely.

It allowed dem douches to claim that Trump was responsible for the virus reaching America despite the fact that he banned Chinese from coming to America from China in January 2020, while his democrat opponents were calling him "racist", hugging Chinamen in the streets, and demanding all travel restrictions be lifted.

Clearly, with the full flight schedule that the democrats wanted, the virus would have spread far more quickly in the USA, resulting in more deaths. That is simple, obvious logic. Yet their TDS-addled brains refuse to accept it.

It is a deep-seated psychiatric phenomenon, similar to the Dancing Plague of 1518.

True, you didn't say Trump banned "all flights from China". Actually, you did not reference it to "flights" but to a national origin; "Chinese".

You also didn't say Trump banned "all" Chinese from coming to America from China. However, you also didn't say he banned "some" Chinese from coming to America from China. The absence of a qualifier served your intention to bamboozle the ill-informed into concluding, incorrectly, that Trump prevented Chinese people from spreading Trump's Pandemic virus into America. Which he obviously did not do.

And it is interesting that even you could not continue that Chinese "ban" nonsense as illustrated by your dance from "ban" to "restrictions" for your later inaccuracy. Ah, you showed signs of inching closer to the truth about Trump's too little too late move regarding preventing Chinese from bringing Trump's Pandemic virus to America.

But even there you applied the wrong word to the event. In fact, in that case the Dems really were trying to lift a Trump "ban".

On that last part, I assume you were talking about Pelosi putting up for a vote Trump's unconstitutional "ban" on Muslims entering America from some predominantly Muslim countries in January 2020, right?

Uh. That had nothing to do with Trump restricting some flights originating from China. Nor did it have anything to do with lifting testing efforts for anyone of any religion trying to enter America.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...al-travel-ban/

Again, that kind dancing around, conflating unrelated events and crafty wordplay might dazzle, confuse and bamboozle the ill-informed into buying your nonsense. But the actual, verifiable reports of the facts thoroughly debunk it. Which no doubt is why you avoid including links for that junk like a vampire avoids Sunlight.

Now, please regale us with nonsense about how many millions of lives Trump saved by creating Trump's Pandemic in the first place when he ignored all expert dire warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous as to defund and remove the very Pandemic Prevention and Response Team officials put in place to give a critical 2-3 month heads up about potential Pandemic spreads as soon as the earliest cases emerge, from 2018 and into 2019 right up to 5 months before those first Covid-19 cases emerged in China.

[Spidy]

Damn, I would have loved to have had one of those when I was a kid! ...

Okay!

BTW, I couldn't help but chuckle, because it made me think of Chris P's young "gay/tranny" scenario and what if, he too like you, is now (hypothetically of course), as a grown adult, is also lamenting the fact, "he would have loved to have 'one of those' when he was a kid!" (Note: I'm sure you'll figure out the "one of those" meaning, given Chris P's scenario).

Well I guess, I would tell you both the same thing, ...if you don't have "one of those" things now, it's never too late and is there's anything stopping you from getting one now?" (...kkkk!)

Say what now, what is this, you say?

...Rather they're preparing them to become right-wing American soldiers, so Democratic Presidents can ship them off to die in foreign countries, just like they've done for the last 100 some odd years.

Hmmmmm...is that so?

I was always led to think (not that I believed it, but), that it was the ambition of every Repub to "just own the libs" (as you Repubs/MAGA ISG BMs have told us countless times) and has always been (to least to my knowledge) the prevailing Repub mantra of the day.

Well according to your statement, you and your fellow right-wing conservative parents and families are raising (or as you put it, "preparing") your very young to be "American ('Child') Soldiers", to run-off to war and fight for Dem. Presidents. Well, so much for "owning the libs". (...kkkk!) It appears to be a self-fulling prophecy, according this logic. I didn't think the the self-loathing on the right was this bad, but I guess you've confirmed it. The Dems didn't even have to lift a finger.

I mean, the very fact that what you're saying, basically sounds like conservative Repub parents are "preparing" their young, to be used as "cannon fodder", isn't in the least bit alarming to you, as a conservative? And even worse, you seem to be endorsing conservative parenting using its young children, as future "Democrat cannon fodder", of all things?

Tiny 12, I guess this is what Donnie "the Devil" J. Dummkopf, meant when he said "...I love the poorly educated people". Perhaps, he thinks they make "good cannon fodder", too?

... while children of elite urban and suburban Democrats sit out wars behind desks and in college.

Yeah, you're so RIGHT!!! Who the fudge, needs to go to school anyways, RIGHT?

I mean, for those of us on the right after all, our right-wing dogma, tells us, "RIGHT is MIGHT" and that we teach our kids that the best way to solve their problems, is with a gun, (bazooka, grenade launcher, SAM or GTAM, at the ready or) in hand.

Who ever said, "the pen is mightier than the sword", don't know shit! So why even have schools at all? RIGHT! (Hint: Read, a large dose of sarcasm)

So much for educating our kids, that "the pen IS (indeed) mightier than the sword". Or perhaps said education, is ONLY just for the "libs"?

Talk about literally throwing right-wing kids on a "grenade/landmine" and "under the bus", for conservative parenting values everywhere. (...kkkk!)

[Beijing4987]

On August 28,2014 at Burgers and Bullets restaurant and shooting range in Arizona, a nine year old girl wielding an Uzi stitched a few rounds into her firearms instructor's skull, ending his teaching career. The Mimi AR is perfect for children. Second Amendment with less kickback. Comes with a collapsible stock to fit in a backpack.

[Chris P]

A very important story that hasn't got nearly the coverage it deserves: Saudi Arabia has just agreed to accept Chinese yuan for its oil.

For several decades, Saudi (and through them OPEC) has been a rock-solid US ally, enforcing the petrodollar system. This means (or rather meant) that they would only accept US dollars as payment for oil.

Pretty much everywhere in the world needs oil, so they were all forced to convert their currencies into dollars to obtain it. This allowed the US to maintain its global supremacy despite decades of clownworld economic policies which have led to a $30 trillion and rising national debt, hundreds of trillions of unfunded liabilities, and the outsourcing of most of our industry.

The main reason Saddam and Gaddafi were overthrown by the US was that they both intended to start selling their country's oil in a currency other than the US Dollar. And now the Saudis, the lynchpin of OPEC and the US petrodollar system, are about to do just that. It's over.

Readers should note that less than six years ago President Trump made a hugely successful state visit to Saudi Arabia, in which he cemented ties, made fantastic trade deals which benefitted America and Americans with many billions of dollars and tens of thousands of high-paying jobs, and more broadly and importantly ensured the continued global dominance of the petrodollar and through it the USA.

It has taken just two years of the Biden Vegminstration to undermine and destroy the relationship with the Saudis and the petrodollar system. Really quite astonishing.

Perhaps it was Biden himself saying that Saudi Arabia should be "a pariah state"; or that weird, twitchy, failed wannabe rock star Jew Secretary of State Blinken announcing proudly that he continually browbeats the Saudis at every meeting for their refusal to allow faggots to sodomize each other in public or groom children like civilized countries do; or the abject, shameful weakness shown by Biden in allowing the Taliban to drive America out of Afghanistan and failing to stop Russia invading Ukraine; or a combination of the above. But the outcome is that America is fast losing its global dominance and power, and we will be weaker, poorer, and lesser as a result.

Great job, Sleepy Joe (and your handlers).

[Chris P]

That's right, "Next Up", is Death Dealers marketing team and their "kiddy friendly" line of products, to the ravenous conservative families, looking supersize their kids "John Rambo" fantasties.


So in my made up scenario, here's how the pretend marketing ad at the local gun dealer might happen, w/r a conservative family purchase of next-level "John Rambo" guns and arms, to teach kids how to exercise their 2nd Amendment Rights:

- "Hey, so don't forget here at Death Dealers, Guns and Ammo "R" Us, you get a big family discount, when ordering our "kiddy friendly" 2nd Amendment special family pack."

- "That's right folks, that includes a "kiddy friendly" bombers-vest, a 15-piece bucket of grenades, a six (6)-pack of C4, the .223 Remington family pack of bullets and a 500ml bottle of nitroglycerin to wash that all down. It'll be just like ordering from your local fried chicken restaurant, easy as 1,2,3. Ouuu-weeee!"

- "Heck, twice as spicy, gunpowder finger licking good, a bigger bang for your buck and the whole family is sure to have bombastic good ol' time, when teaching those 2nd Amendment Rights and getting those so called vaunted priorities straight. Yep, guaranteed good fun for the whole darn family."

Ok, don't get bent outta shape, it's all in good fun...just kidding! I know conservative families aren't anything like that...I think?

Was this an attempt at comedy? It failed.