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01-31-24 04:24 #14060
Posts: 2579Civil War?
"Yeah, if only we had another source other then the video. Oh wait, we can read Fauci's own fucking emails where he says the same thing.
This is dumb as saying we are not at war after three American soldiers just got killed.
And this conclusion, grounded in nothing but two inconclusive speculations, convinced the world's press that SARS2 could not have escaped from a lab.
Natural emergence was the media's preferred theory until around February 2021 and the visit by a World Health Organization commission to China. What became clear was that the Chinese had no evidence to offer the commission in support of the natural emergence theory. This was surprising because both the SARS1 and MERS viruses had left copious traces in the environment. The intermediary host species of SARS1 was identified within four months of the epidemic's outbreak, and the host of MERS within nine months. Yet some 15 months after the SARS2 pandemic began, and a presumably intensive search, Chinese researchers had failed to find either the original bat population, or the intermediate species to which SARS2 might have jumped. Natural emergence remained a conjecture which, however plausible to begin with, had gained not a shred of supporting evidence in over a year.
End of link. So to be clear, there was not one shred of evidence Covid originated in nature. Not now. Not then. None. Zilch. Zero. Nada.
Ah yes, the CDC.
I think the most upsetting thing to me was The Baltimore Sun calling me a racist because I said this came from a Wuhan lab. ".
Those words came out of the mouth of Dr. Robert Redfield, the former head of the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Ex-CDC chief: Fauci 'sidelined' me from COVID debate for backing lab leak theory.
"This was an a priori decision that there's one point of view that we're going to put out there, and anyone who doesn't agree with it is going to be sidelined," Redfield said at a hearing of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic. "And as I say, I was only the CDC director, and I was sidelined. ".
Not sure who the them is.
You said Trump sidelined the CDC, and the head of the CDC said Fauci sidelined them. Ah, what does the head of the CDC know about the CDC anyway?
And then there is the crux of the debate. Obama banning gain of function research out of fear it would cause a pandemic, and Fauci thinking we must study gain of function so we can one step ahead of a virus if it mutates in nature?
I think it is pretty clear Obama was right, but with you Tooms, Trump was wrong, and he was not even a part of the question. This is classic Trump derangement syndrome. The only thing left to discuss is what is the origin of your TDS is: drugs, money, or stupidity. In your case, Tooms, I am going to go with drugs. I am actually jealous of your taking a drug that so distorts reality.
The Democratic douche answer to everything: is it all Trump's fault. The question that is being asked is irrelevant. ".
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2024/...fore-election/
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01-31-24 02:26 #14059
Posts: 3211Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
We have a $200 million program run by Fauci who defied the president and created the pandemic. And what do you douches think we need? More Faucis.
What is wrong with you people?
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01-31-24 00:18 #14058
Posts: 1949MAGA Selectivity
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Dr. Anthony Fauci accused former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield of lying in front of Congress when he alleged that he was sidelined by Fauci from internal debates about the origin of COVID-19 for pushing the lab leak theory.
He is totally and unequivocally incorrect in what hes saying, that I excluded him, Fauci told Fox News host Neil Cavuto on Thursday.
Its really unfortunate that in a public setting, like the hearing, that Dr. Redfield made that absolutely incorrect statement, added President Bidens former chief medical adviser.
Redfield, appointed by former President Donald Trump to lead the CDC in March 2018, told the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic Wednesday that in the early days of the pandemic, there was an a priori decision that theres one point of view that were going to put out there, and anyone who doesnt agree with it is going to be sidelined.
Redfield specifically cited a Feb. 1, 2020, conference call that he claimed was convened by Fauci and then-National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins to discuss the origins of COVID-19.
The former CDC director said that not only was he cut out of the call, he didnt even find out about it until June 2021.
I was quite upset, as the CDC director, that I was excluded from those discussions, Redfield said Wednesday, claiming he was frozen out because he had a different point of view.
Fauci argued Thursday that I had nothing to do with who would be on that call.
That call was organized by a group of evolutionary biologist in order to discuss the possibility that this might actually be a virus that was actually engineered, he said. So I didnt put anybody on the list of that call nor did I take anybody out.
Fauci, who spent 38 years as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases before retiring at the end of last year, added that it would have been OK to have Redfield join the discussion, since by his recollection half the people on the call were of the opinion that it might be a lab leak. So his rationale of why he thought he was excluded is an invalid rationale.
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01-30-24 20:48 #14057
Posts: 5428Has Trump EVER mentioned Fauci as the one who removed those agents?
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
March 26, 2020
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN21C3NE/
Over the last two years, the White House has pushed U.S. agencies with a presence in China to de-fund programs there along with the positions to manage them, according to the U.S. official who spoke to Reuters.
The source said Terry Branstad, the U.S. ambassador to China and a former Republican governor of Iowa, tried to remind the White House of the importance of the U.S. presence in China but was told to get with the program by an administration official.
"The White House saw the relationship as one-sided and without benefit to the U.S., the source said.
And why do you suppose Trump would have made this one exception in not blaming anyone and everyone else for one of his spectacular fuck ups, especially Dr. Fauci?
It was a Trump decision and directive, top to bottom. He doesn't even want to talk about it. And, naturally, pro Repub Mainstream Media is more than delighted to oblige.
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01-30-24 19:55 #14056
Posts: 5428LOL. Numbskull Trump can't stand it
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
But he declined to take credit for anything else in this Historic Great Dem / Biden Economy without one iota of understanding that the rising stock market is one of the LEAST important and impressive accomplishments by Biden in this amazingly impressive economy, the best post-Trump's Pandrmic economic recovery on the Planet:
Trump claims credit for record-high stock market under Biden.
1/29/2024
https://thehill.com/homenews/4435862...-market-biden/
The Dow Jones Industrial Average and the S&P 500 index set record highs over the past week.
I think the economy is horrible, except the stock market is going up, and I think the stock market is going up because Im leading Biden in all of the polls, Trump said during a Fox News town hall event in Iowa on Jan. 10. I think there will be a crash if I dont win.
But even the $Trillions he added to the deficit to buy that easily predictable outcome could not buy more jobs being created with that idiotic Repub legislation than without it, a Real Annual GDP Growth Rate as high as 3%, meaningfully higher wages, a single Infrastructure Project worth mentioning or apparently enough revenue for him to fund and leave the damn Pandemic Prevention and Response Teams in those damn Chinese coronavirus research labs so they could do their damn job of preventing Trump's Damn Pandemic from destroying the whole damn world's economy and supply-chains and mass damn murder millions of people around the whole damn world!
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01-30-24 19:18 #14055
Posts: 5428Hey, thanks for the link to all those Fauci emails
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Now that the con job video you fell for has been totally debunked, it is so good of you to now prove that con job video's lie by providing a link to. Uh. By providing a link to. Hmm. Uh. By providing. Uh.
Oh, never mind.
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01-30-24 18:15 #14054
Posts: 1104Biden's resilient US Economy...is BOOMING!
Biden's US Economy grew at a STAGGERING PACE in Q4 of 2023
Heather Long (Wash. Post, Jan 25th, 2024), who has long claimed the "vibe-cession" is over, explains, why was 2023 such a boom year for the US Economy?
- 1) Americans kept spending
2) Gov't spending picked up (esp. state and local)
3) A boom in structure" building (e.g. factories)
#1 was driven by strong job growth and wealth growth
#2 and #3 were Biden policy growth
BTW, an economy, growing at "a shocking/staggering pace", much to the chagrin of Repubs, FOXY MUSE, MSM, and ISG Repub pseudo economists, as even the Q4 (2023) inflation rate was kept low, at 1.7%, well below the FED forecast of 2.0%.
It should be noted that none of this is just simply "accidental economics" or "Repub Zombie Economics". This is just what good STEWARDSHIP, LEADERSHIP and good GOVERNING look like.
President Biden's administration has taken proactive steps to grow the economy and the economy has BOOMED!
- 1) Americans kept spending
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01-30-24 18:08 #14053
Posts: 1104Repubs...No stinkin dictionaries needed...
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Why would Repubs need dictionaries, when they have the "book of Trump"? (...kkkk!)
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01-30-24 11:57 #14052
Posts: 5428That is inarguable evidence of pro Repub Mainstream Media
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Mainstream Media also knows very well that Trump whined and cried and wondered aloud that "China should have told us about those cases. Why didn't they tell us? If only they had told us 2 months earlier we could have avoided all this trouble"!
So when Mainstream Media has now spent 4 years through two critical election cycles not even bothering to connect those 2 GIGANTIC DOTS often enough to make certain that everyone on the planet understands Trump's Economic and National Security Policies = Trump's Pandemic, Trump's Mass Murders, Trump's Worldwide Economic and Supply-Chain Collapse, Trump's Inflation, Trump's Massive Jobs Destruction, etc, then that is inarguable evidence that Mainstream Media goes to extraordinary efforts to "Bothside" help Repubs win elections many, many times more than anything they ever do for Dems.
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01-30-24 08:01 #14051
Posts: 3211Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
https://nicholaswade.medium.com/orig...es-6f03564c038
And this conclusion, grounded in nothing but two inconclusive speculations, convinced the world's press that SARS2 could not have escaped from a lab.
Natural emergence was the media's preferred theory until around February 2021 and the visit by a World Health Organization commission to China. What became clear was that the Chinese had no evidence to offer the commission in support of the natural emergence theory. This was surprising because both the SARS1 and MERS viruses had left copious traces in the environment. The intermediary host species of SARS1 was identified within four months of the epidemic's outbreak, and the host of MERS within nine months. Yet some 15 months after the SARS2 pandemic began, and a presumably intensive search, Chinese researchers had failed to find either the original bat population, or the intermediate species to which SARS2 might have jumped. Natural emergence remained a conjecture which, however plausible to begin with, had gained not a shred of supporting evidence in over a year.
End of link. So to be clear, there was not one shred of evidence Covid originated in nature. Not now. Not then. None. Zilch. Zero. Nada.
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former...ting-lab-leak/
I think the most upsetting thing to me was The Baltimore Sun calling me a racist because I said this came from a Wuhan lab. ".
Those words came out of the mouth of Dr. Robert Redfield, the former head of the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/former...ting-lab-leak/
Ex-CDC chief: Fauci 'sidelined' me from COVID debate for backing lab leak theory.
"This was an a priori decision that there's one point of view that we're going to put out there, and anyone who doesn't agree with it is going to be sidelined," Redfield said at a hearing of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic. "And as I say, I was only the CDC director, and I was sidelined. ".
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
You said Trump sidelined the CDC, and the head of the CDC said Fauci sidelined them. Ah, what does the head of the CDC know about the CDC anyway?
And then there is the crux of the debate. Obama banning gain of function research out of fear it would cause a pandemic, and Fauci thinking we must study gain of function so we can one step ahead of a virus if it mutates in nature?
I think it is pretty clear Obama was right, but with you Tooms, Trump was wrong, and he was not even a part of the question. This is classic Trump derangement syndrome. The only thing left to discuss is what is the origin of your TDS is: drugs, money, or stupidity. In your case, Tooms, I am going to go with drugs. I am actually jealous of your taking a drug that so distorts reality.
The Democratic douche answer to everything: is it all Trump's fault. The question that is being asked is irrelevant.
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01-30-24 03:36 #14050
Posts: 2579Scumbag Joe is an existential threat to the present and the future safety of America
But ET doesn't care of course hes hiding behind a miiitary junta 10000 miles away.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...is-presidency/
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...ld-in-decades/
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...tm_term=second
His weakness encourages aggression.
Kyiv.
Oct 7.
The southern border.
What next? Has this all this been a setup so he can let Xi take Taipei?
He couldn't manage a Jack in The Box in his "prime".
He needs to be put in a nursing home somewhere already.
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01-29-24 18:10 #14049
Posts: 5428Ah, found it. Here it is. Fauci said the words Strongly Suggesting! LOL
Uh. I believe this was where the con men who suckered some gullible rubes into believing that Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly asserted that he "strongly favored" the natural occurance theory for the origin of the Trump's Pandemic virus and even fought for it.
This was where they lifted and tightly edited the second "example" of him supposedly asserting such a thing in their blatantly obviously misleading video. And repeated it again elsewhere in it.
Watch the whole video. It is only a bit over 9 minutes long. It represents exactly the same stance I have ever heard Fauci take on the continued research that ought to be done in order to learn more about the likely or probable origin of the Trump's Pandemic virus.
But if you just want to get all riled up and do cartwheels over his use of the words "Strongly Suggested" as lied about and twisted out of context by the liars who produced that video con job seen earlier, go to the 6:40 mark and you will discover that the unedited and in context version of his statement is that he is simply referring to the results, the data, the evidence gathered by a team of evolution virologists and epidemiologists as published in Science Magazine "strongly suggesting" a natural occurance origin.
And, as he has probably done dozens of times in dozens of interviews about it, he immediately qualifies that their "strongly suggested" conclusions ARE NOT ENOUGH to settle the issue and we must always keep an open mind about these things.
But the poor suckers who fell for that other tightly edited con job never heard his lead up or the follow up statements in context. Although, I thought it was blatantly obvious in a first viewing that a twisted, lying editing job had been done on it.
https://youtu.be/emPQMmh18Hk?si=rm21euT4Xd95rbvU
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01-29-24 16:35 #14048
Posts: 5428No, you're too gullible
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
But they didn't.
And that is very, very likely because he was actually referring to "the evidence" strongly favoring that conclusion and the lack of evidence supporting anything else. But the con men who suckered you could not leave those words or anything like them in the clip and sucker you into believing their nonsense.
You got suckered by them. Sorry to break it to you.
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01-29-24 08:23 #14047
Posts: 3211Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I apologize for asking if you were getting paid off or really were that stupid. I didn't consider that you were high. What drugs are you taking now to get so detached from reality? They must be fun.
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01-29-24 07:27 #14046
Posts: 1949War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
It was all Fauci. And Biden. And Obama, I guess. And other libs.
'Cause they hate America, don't ya know.