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12-13-22 21:45 #11174
Posts: 1781Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
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12-13-22 18:52 #11173
Posts: 3228Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
I actually looked into the STEO at the EIA website after you posted this. The most amazing part was seeing Russia. The war was the catalyst for higher prices, and despite all the USA and European blubbering about boycotting Russian crude, their production is not down by one iota. China is just now getting out of Covid lockdown, and they are the #2 consumer of oil. On top of that, prices on diesel are still sky high. Yeah, prices are down on gasoline and except for draining the SPR, what does Biden have to do with that?
Apparently, American oil producers are gearing up to produce like nuts in 2023 which is great news. I am not sure if it is the Republicans controlling the house or Biden privately telling them to go ahead. Yeah, for all your bullshit talk about Republicans kissing corporate America's ass, the oil companies have been killing it under Biden.
I like Obama's policies where oil companies produced like crazy got oil and gasoline prices down and made less money than they are now. With Biden, oil production has barely moved, prices are up, and oil companies are making record profits. So which president's oil policies do you prefer, Spidy, Biden's or Obama's?
[Deleted by Admin] Does your head explode with anything outside of Republicans bad, Democrats good?
So just to be clear, I wanted Biden to go back to Obama's policies, and your sorry ass had to bring up Republicans. Gee, I wonder why that is.
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12-13-22 18:47 #11172
Posts: 5452Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
Maybe that's what all those other gloating-exhausted wingers disappeared to rest up for.
I do hope Elvis returns to the building by Christmas Eve so we can compare Trump's S&P 500 Index and DOW performance vs that of Biden from election / nauguration to this same point in their presidency so he can explain why his trusted formula and yield curves didn't have him short the market when Trump was elected or took office like he did with Biden.
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12-13-22 16:36 #11171
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I'll check back from time to time. In particular I've enjoyed some of JustTK's out-of-the-box contributions. And the rest of you have brought up some good points from time to time. And broadened my thinking. A little bit.
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12-13-22 07:45 #11170
Posts: 5452Of course
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
And now we have them and Trump, the absolute worst negotiator supposedly on behalf of the USA of all time, hopping up and down and screeching about how Whelan was the real Grand Prize hostage we should have gotten released or all that is worth living for in America will evaporate!
Which, as all great winger negotiators like Trump et al knows, is the very best position of strength to be in for that eventual negotiation. LOL.
Bunch of numbskulls.
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12-12-22 20:15 #11169
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
Biden just released a man who allegedly supplied arms to our enemies, including al-Qaeda and the Taliban, and to numerous other groups and countries in the Middle East, Europe and Africa. Tens of thousands, perhaps more, have died in West Africa and the Congo from arms sold and/or transported by Viktor Bout.
And who did we get for his release? A basketball player. A fucking basketball player. Biden's motivation to do this was purely political. Blacks, women, and the LGBT community overwhelmingly voted for Biden, and Greiner tics all three boxes. You said as much.
And how about Paul Whelan? Well, same deal, except that he probably didn't deserve so much as a fine or a single night in a jail cell. He was set up. Otherwise, why would the FSB agent who slipped him the USB drive, Ilya Yatsenko, end up with a promotion instead of incarceration in a jail cell? Yeah, you can make the argument that we set up Viktor Bout too. The difference is that one of the gentlemen was responsible for many deaths and was arming our enemies. And the other (Whelan) was a nobody.
We shouldn't have released Bout for Whelan either. So good for Trump for not giving in to blackmail.
"I turned down a deal with Russia for a one on one swap of the so-called Merchant of Death for Paul Whelan. I wouldn’t have made the deal for a hundred people in exchange for someone that has killed untold numbers of people with his arms deals."
-- Donald J. Trump on Truth Social
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12-12-22 16:30 #11168
Posts: 1604Griner vs Whelan
Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
Do some critical thinking for god's sake. Who held all of the cards here, Russia or the USA? Russia did. I repeat, Russia did. And Russia was offering a one-for-one swap of Griner for about. Period. Did the Biden administration ask for more? Who knows. My guess is yes but I don't know.
The second issue is Whelan himself. FUX Snooze and the rest of rightwingnut media simply says "Whelan was a former Marine" and the Moron Brigade goes crazy. What FUX Snooze and the rest don't say is that Whelan was dishonorably discharged from the Marines because he was convicted of stealing by a court martial.
The third issue is that even though about was released, about had served 10 years of his 25 year sentence plus he had all of his assets confiscated by the government.
The fourth issue is even simpler. Russia was offering a one-for-one swap of Griner for about. Would you have told Russia "Hey go, pound sand. We want Whelan back and if we don't get that, you can keep' them both"?
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12-11-22 20:56 #11167
Posts: 1680Laying it on the Line
Ya know there's something to having everything going for you in this world in a given situation. That would be Brittney Grinder, she's female, black, lesbian, and refused to stand for the national anthem. All the boxes are checked. Is there anything missing? I'm all in with Fox on this one, and that's what makes me a moderate. What an embarrassment.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XxK6XJCRXL8
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12-11-22 15:31 #11166
Posts: 1781Monopoly anyone?
Great presentation on the history of monopolies in USA (first 40 mins only). Causes and effects:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8DNC8uCmVM
Further proof of the sqeezing of the middle class.
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12-08-22 14:11 #11165
Posts: 1781Time to move on
Really great discussion on the Lex Fridman show on distribution, ;pipelines, transport, trucking, rail etc. Issues and future.
Long show but great listening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Wpy6gE4So
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12-08-22 11:53 #11164
Posts: 5452No win in 2004 for Bush2 without his winger-rigged 2000 appointment as POTUS
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
Those were two of the worst individual presidential term results of all time on the basis of National Security and the economy. Surpassed on horrific results only by Trump's one term.
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12-07-22 22:55 #11163
Posts: 1604How about "more votes than the other guy"?
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
1988 - Bush 1 received more votes than Dukakis.
1992 - Slick Willie received more votes than Bush 1.
1996 - Slick Willie received more votes than Dole.
2000 - W received FEWER votes than Gore.
2004 - W received more votes than Kerry.
2008 - Obama received more votes than McCain.
2012 - Obama received more votes than Romney.
2016 - Donnie the Dumbass received FEWER votes than Clinton.
2020 - Biden received more votes than Donnie the Dumbass.
The only two Presidents who didn't win the popular vote since 1988 were W and Donnie the Dumbass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ar_vote_margin
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12-07-22 22:35 #11162
Posts: 1604You have drunk the Koolaid
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
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12-07-22 22:02 #11161
Posts: 1116Bothersidesism attempts to normalize QAnon / Repub economics
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
Typical response to try and normalize and "bothsider" the corrupt and dysfunctional party that is now basically/predominately a QAnon/Repub/Bothersider looney-tunes conspiracy party, hell bent on subverting democracy, the rule of law and The US Constitution.
The "Two Santa Clause" theory clearly has the Repubs, spending like drunken sailors to enrich themselves and their billionaire cronies and the other party (the Dems) clearly spending money to benefit and stimulate a stagnant and recessive economy, typically decimated and left-for-dead by Repubs, with their ill-fated trickle-down economics.
Yep, your article is just more bothersidesism. But I did like the following quote:
... What's more, presidents do not control the business cycle, even if the business cycle plays a part in the outcomes of presidential elections. ...
https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publ...nomic-managers
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12-07-22 11:28 #11160
Posts: 5452Magical Bothsiderism Thinking now?
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
In the past century, Hoover, Eisenhower, Bush1, Bush2 and Trump did.
List of recessions in the United States
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States
Interesting highly partisan "business cycle" you've got stuck in your mind. The crap cycles, especially the spectacularly bad crap cycles, only occur at the end of Repub presidential terms when they come at the end and never at the end of Dem presidential terms whether the end of those terms come after 4 years, 8 years or in party sequential terms, 12 years or 20 years.
Which begs the question, how do those highly partisan "business cycles" know?!
Look, if it rankles you and your "economists" that the historical economic record favors Dems and punishes Repubs because those lucky Dems get to take over right when the outgoing Repub's economy is crashing down around our ears, millions of jobs are being wiped out and, goodness gracious, all the beautifully well-timed incoming POTUS of any party but always seems to be Dems needs to do is flip a magic light switch, go ride ponies or play golf and, as sure as night follows day, that miraculous "business cycle" will do all the work to recover the economy, instill confidence in brave free market Capitalists and business owners, create millions of jobs to recover the millions lost and all within just 2-3 months, here is the fix for what ails you:
Tell your beloved Repubs to stop promoting and enacting classic Repub policies and stewardship that produces those crap results that greet the incoming Dems over and over and over again in the first place.