American Politics

[Axel Heyst]

I was vaxed twice (Moderna) before my 1st trip to Brazil in April 2021. The Delta variant was sweeping the country at that time and all the restaurants and bordellos in RJ & SP were shut down. The SP clinicas somehow remained open. I don't know how they managed it, but they did. In addition, RJ Barra Vip & and SP M Class girls were super friendly and helped fill the void. Anyway, I exchanged bodily fluids with many, many Brazilian girls on that trip and did not contract Covid.

I got a booster shot in September before my October / November 2021 2nd trip. The SP boates and RJ termas were back open for business. I exchanged bodily fluids with many, many Brazilian girls on that trip and did not contract Covid.

Then in March 2022 right before my 3rd trip, I got a 2nd booster shot. 4 Moderna shots in all. By this time the Omicron variant had made its introduction to the world. As I understand it, the Delta variant affects the lower respiratory and Omicron affects the upper respiratory. Delta is far more serious. Omicron is a faster spreader. Anyway, I exchanged bodily fluids with many girls like on my 2 previous trips, but this time I contracted a very mild case of Covid. My symptoms were a severe sore throat like I never experienced before, but nothing else. No coughing, no headaches, and I was not bedridden although my sexual appetite went to zero for a week or so. The sore throat lasted 3 days. I was never tested, but my girls all said, "you have Omicron" matter of fact like it was nothing when I told them of my symptoms.

OK, so about 2 weeks ago which is around 2 months after I recovered from Omicron or whatever I had, I went to dinner with my Dad in Florida. He had 3 Pfizer vax shots. The restaurant was crowded, and the tables were close together. 2 days later he contracted a lite case of Covid probably Omicron. I came over to his place for dinners and morning coffee. I did not wear a mask, so I was super exposed to whatever he had, but I contracted nada. My Dad recovered in 3 days. He is in his 90's, but in good shape.

So, what does my anecdotal story indicate? My take is that the Moderna vax's were pretty effective against the lower respiratory Delta variant, but more or less ineffective against the upper respiratory Omicron variant although they may have mitigated the severity of Omicron, but Omicron was already noted for not being as severe as Delta, so who the fuck knows.

Moderna and Pfizer are both coming out with new vaccines in September which are supposedly designed for the current Covid variants. The question is who wants to get vaccinated? Ha Ha. Not me. I believe that I am currently immune, but I don't know for how long. I have an open mind, however, so I want to hear scientific facts and data from the CDC on these new vaccines and I definitely do not want to hear any more political BS and bias. I am not going to take it on faith from anybody about the efficacy and safety of the newbies. Sadly the "experts" credibility is shot. Pun intended.

[PVMonger]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ion/ar-AAZPJx3

"You are not going to have Covid if you have these vaccinations. ".

Any of the non-Dems want to predict what these dumb Dems are going to say about this?

First off, they go on and on about the stupid bleach joke when this is way, way more serious.

It is funny how these fools did not even realize Biden said it. That shows how blind, dense, and ill-informed they really are.

Maybe they will accuse me of lying when I said "get" versus "have". Have is present tense, and Biden was talking about the virus that existed then.

Here is MSN"s spin:

However, after new variants of the novel virus emerged, efficacy against infections dipped, but vaccines have generally remained strong at preventing serious cases, hospitalization and death.

This is a nice try, but there were variants before the vaccine, and the hospitalization and death crap is proven to be untrue.

How about another dumb Dem tactic? Attacking the source?

MSN, they are a fucking joke man. They are even worse than Fox News. Tucker Carlson uses MSN as a source all the time. Gramps in Thailand already referenced Fox News. He he.

Here is another good one. Did I imagine it?

No, you and all the other dumb Dems imagined he didn't say it.

Can you even make this up? Doesn't that show you how slanted the media is and how the dumb Dems lap it up?

I am not going to pull any punches here. This is not a dumb Dem tactic but Democratic douchery at work.



This is how Russiagate happens. The FBI talks to the media about Russiagate. Then they use the media story as the means to get a FiSA warrant. This is classic Democratic fact checking. Two Dems agree what the facts and both are too stupid to even use duckduckgo. (Google got rid of all the links to this video).

Thing about Trump is yes, I know, and most people I know who like Trump will admit that he is obnoxious, egocentric, boisterous, and often inappropriate but what they do not get is that Trump is and always will be authentic. Part of his game is to exaggerate to gain a better negotiating position, and it worked time and again. "The grab 'them by the pussy" quote comes out and Trump brings all the women Clinton really did grope to a presser. Brilliant.

That said, now that all the Dems have seen the truth, we can expect all the truth loving Dems here to admit their great leader made a mistake, apologize to me, and wonder how many deaths really were due to Biden saying that, and why there were not thousands of articles about it, right?

Nah, just kidding! I just hope the douches can be halfway creative this time.

If you knew what vaccines were supposed to do, you wouldn't write this drivel.

I saw an ad on TV last night for "Shingrix", the shingles vaccine. Evidently "Shignrix" doesn't work at all because the ad (admittedly in Canadian TV, because they still can't lie) said that the vaccine is 90% effective. If you knew how vaccines work, you'd know that most vaccines are not 100% effective 100% of the time. The following article points that out and shows, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that most vaccines are not 100% effective 100% of the time. https://www.immune.org.nz/vaccines/e...-effectiveness.

Look, we all get that you are an apologist for the Mango Mussolini. Note how you still refer to the lie that his "inject disinfectant" comment was a joke. Even though everybody on the planet (with a brain) knows that the Orange Menace was serious when he said it.

But the important point here, and one that I've asked you to answer hundreds of times, is who was President when the vaccines were developed? This is not a complicated answer. But answering it poses a serious problem for all tRUMP supporters. That's because if you say the vaccine is worthless or not very effective, then you are admitting that it was the Mango Mussolini who developed this "less than effective" vaccine. So, which is is? My gut tells me that you'll try to spin this somehow rather than admit that Donnie the Dumbass paid million of dollars for a vaccine that is "less than effective". But that's what you RethugliKKKants do.

FYI, if Hair Furor was "always authentic" then his comment about injecting bleach had to be authentic too, right?

[Gino02]

Admin, please delete this message if not allowed.

Given the amount of ridiculous posts, should this Thread be renamed to American Comedies?

[JustTK]

Great little mash up on the lies around COVID and how easily the public bought in to the propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ka2eUwwWc

[Elvis 2008]

BTW, all he was trying to do was encourage anti-science lemming Repubs who had believed any or all of the 40 or so times Trump lied to them that "it will go away without a vaccine" and were continuing to die for lack of taking the vaccines to stop being so stupid and take them.

So when you say if you get vaccinated, you won't get Covid, and you do get vaccinated x 4 and get Covid, that is science? Hey, Gramps, what is your definition of is? And the reason Biden gave out false information was because of Trump? Biden had to lie because of Trump. LOL.

"If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the ICU unit, and you're not going to die. ".

Is that true Gramps? Is that science? Was there anyone who thought they should not have to go to the hospital if they were sick with Covid and stayed home and died because Biden said they would NEVER have to go?

There are millions who got vaccinated. How many injected bleach?

Even the guy in your link where that one sentence was truncated out of all context and cut away from almost before we even hear the last letter of the last word in the sentence gave the statement a "Half True" rating.

Yeah, that is a shocker. Biden is caught completely bullshitting about the vaccine and the media calls it is a half truth.

Trump jokes about bleach, and there are hundreds of articles about the dozens of calls to poison control but not this. Nah, it was half true given the context. "What Biden meant to say", yeah, how many times have we heard that line?

I should have anticipated the context angle. Biden didn't say he was sending troops to Ukraine. That was just a context error.

Gramps, you know you are totally full of shit right?

The science is the vaccine worked okay for a few months and then it did nothing and at the time it was doing the most nothing is when Dems were bitching the loudest for people to get vaccinated. That is the truth and the science, and Biden was miles away from both.

Thing is you didn't even know Biden said what he did Gramps. Why is that?

[ScatManDoo]

Among republicans there are lots and lots of suckers.

TrumpShit supporters are the BIGGEST SUCKERS of all time.

TrumpShit voters are the EASIEST SUCKERS to fool ever again and again and again & AGAIN.

All you can do is laugh hard at these naive suckers.

Unfortunately, America is burdened by these suckers.

What was wrong or unacceptable with my poet.

That caused it to not poet the first times I submitted it?

[Spidy]

... Thing is PVM, we do not know what the fuck she was doing. She could have been stuffing the ballot box for Trump right? But you dumb Dems do not care if there was an election fraud. All you care about is the result, and if that woman is deposed, there is a chance the result you desire comes into question. ...

Boy do I love that magical, thinking and how brain re-writes history, at will. That's a top notch talent you got there. Trump University, was it?

To answer your question, Dems do, ABSOLUTELY care about election fraud. In fact about 95% of election fraud was committed by the Repubs. As I've said before, Republi-cannots (win honestly at the ballot-box)/Con-servatives and are by far the very best at cheating.

"The 2020 Voter Fraud Has Been Found And It Was Committed By Republicans": https://www.politicususa.com/2021/10...publicans.html

[Gino02]

Yeah.

Where are the articles filled with Elvis's "alternate" quotes of Biden that were never said?

Read: Did Biden Say You Wont Get COVID if Youre Vaccinated? (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bi...ont-get-covid/).

Watch: https://youtu.be/t7WwDLzG--Y.

I feel sorry that some of us here are either lacking in memory, or lacking skills to Google. Please feel free to reach out to me by PM if you need help in improving your skills on how to use search engines eg Google. Thank you!

[Elvis 2008]

Nor have I seen a clip of Biden saying it sourced from FUX News and the like.

Where do you imagine you saw and heard it?

There are tons of videos showing Trump repeatedly assuring the world that his Trump's Pandemic virus "will go away without a vaccine" as well as the one of him being deadly serious that the injection of disinfectant (bleach) to cure it ought to be looked into instead.

Have you got a link for Biden saying, "you can not get Covid if you are vaccinated"?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ion/ar-AAZPJx3

"You are not going to have Covid if you have these vaccinations. ".

Any of the non-Dems want to predict what these dumb Dems are going to say about this?

First off, they go on and on about the stupid bleach joke when this is way, way more serious.

It is funny how these fools did not even realize Biden said it. That shows how blind, dense, and ill-informed they really are.

Maybe they will accuse me of lying when I said "get" versus "have". Have is present tense, and Biden was talking about the virus that existed then.

Here is MSN"s spin:

However, after new variants of the novel virus emerged, efficacy against infections dipped, but vaccines have generally remained strong at preventing serious cases, hospitalization and death.

This is a nice try, but there were variants before the vaccine, and the hospitalization and death crap is proven to be untrue.

How about another dumb Dem tactic? Attacking the source?

MSN, they are a fucking joke man. They are even worse than Fox News. Tucker Carlson uses MSN as a source all the time. Gramps in Thailand already referenced Fox News. He he.

Here is another good one. Did I imagine it?

No, you and all the other dumb Dems imagined he didn't say it.

There are tons of videos showing Trump repeatedly assuring the world that his Trump's Pandemic virus "will go away without a vaccine" as well as the one of him being deadly serious that the injection of disinfectant (bleach) to cure it ought to be looked into instead.

Can you even make this up? Doesn't that show you how slanted the media is and how the dumb Dems lap it up?

I am not going to pull any punches here. This is not a dumb Dem tactic but Democratic douchery at work.

Where are the articles filled with Elvis's "alternate" quotes of Biden that were never said?

Have you got a link for Biden saying, "you can not get Covid if you are vaccinated"?

This is how Russiagate happens. The FBI talks to the media about Russiagate. Then they use the media story as the means to get a FiSA warrant. This is classic Democratic fact checking. Two Dems agree what the facts and both are too stupid to even use duckduckgo. (Google got rid of all the links to this video).

Thing about Trump is yes, I know, and most people I know who like Trump will admit that he is obnoxious, egocentric, boisterous, and often inappropriate but what they do not get is that Trump is and always will be authentic. Part of his game is to exaggerate to gain a better negotiating position, and it worked time and again. "The grab 'them by the pussy" quote comes out and Trump brings all the women Clinton really did grope to a presser. Brilliant.

That said, now that all the Dems have seen the truth, we can expect all the truth loving Dems here to admit their great leader made a mistake, apologize to me, and wonder how many deaths really were due to Biden saying that, and why there were not thousands of articles about it, right?

Nah, just kidding! I just hope the douches can be halfway creative this time.

[EihTooms]

Again with the bleach?

Let's test your theory if words matter.

You are not going to get Covid if you get these vaccinations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wST_Oo1osdA.

I have another one, "Putin cannot stay in power. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agEaCr6InEM.

"The American people think there is inflation because the government is spending more money, simply not true. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTPX1ejoYdg.

As for American troops in Ukraine, Biden said "You are going to see when you go there (to Ukraine)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RER3Q8JAFbE.

Nah, your theory does not hold up about words meaning things. What you mean to say is when Republicans say something, words matter. That does not apply to Democrats. Democrats can be inaccurate and lie all they want.

That depends on what your definition of is is should be the motto of the Democratic Party.

No wonder I didn't recall Biden saying "If you get vaccinated you won't get Covid. " When you put it in context with everything else Biden said about the value of getting vaccinated you'd have to be pretty dumb to think that is all there is to it.

Even the guy in your link where that one sentence was truncated out of all context and cut away from almost before we even hear the last letter of the last word in the sentence gave the statement a "Half True" rating.

Here is the rest of it:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bi...ont-get-covid/

Context
During the same public appearance, Biden also stated, accurately, that vaccinated people are less likely to catch the virus than unvaccinated people and, if they do catch it, are less likely to get sick.
....
BIDEN: Well, the virus look, its real simple. We have a pandemic for those who haven't gotten a vaccination. Its that basic, that simple. Ten thousand people have recently died; 9,950 of them, thereabouts, are people who hadn't been vaccinated.

This is a simple, basic proposition. If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die.
.....

But, again, one last thing. We don't talk enough to you about this, I don't think. One last thing that's really important is, were not in the position where we think that any virus, including the Delta virus, which is much more transmissible and more deadly in terms of unvaccinated people, the the various shots that people are getting now cover that. You're OK. You're not going to you're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.
.....
(Also, at the same appearance)
"If you're vaccinated, even if you do catch the virus, quote, unquote, like people talk about it in normal terms, you're not many people do. If you do, you're not likely to get sick. You're probably going to be symptomless. You're not going to be in a position where your life is in danger.

BTW, all he was trying to do was encourage anti-science lemming Repubs who had believed any or all of the 40 or so times Trump lied to them that "it will go away without a vaccine" and were continuing to die for lack of taking the vaccines to stop being so stupid and take them.

[Axel Heyst]

X, why do you keep insisting that I slap you down again and again? Have some self-respect, dude. You lost the debate when you could not or would not address the 2 secret service eyewitnesses not being called by Nancy to testify at her inquisition. Instead, you went off into the weeds rambling about the definition of hearsay and left-wing women's integrity as witnesses in partisan kangaroo witch hunts.

At least Poncho understood the critical relevance of not calling the 2 key eyewitnesses to testify at the hearings. His response was classic Antifa: he attacked the character and integrity of the 2 eyewitnesses. KKK. Yeah, it is an obnoxious, soviet era response, but personally if I had to choose between your mealy-mouthed obfuscations or Poncho's straight forward KGB style attack response, I would take his because it is more revealing of what the Marxist Woke political movement is all about.

[ScatManDoo]

Can you read for comprehension?

When the Mango Mussolini said to inject disinfectant, trump supporters immediately began making bleach martinis. Because they believed what he said. words matter.

Among republicans there are lots and lots of suckers.

They also believed the Orange Moron when he said that Mexico would pay for the wall. Nobody else did, of course, but trump supporters did.

TrumpShit supporters are the BIGGEST SUCKERS of all time.

They also believed Hair Furor when he said that he had proof of the election being stolen. Nobody else did, of course, but trump supporters did.

TrumpShit voters are the EASIEST SUCKERS to fool ever again and again and again & AGAIN.

They believed Cheeto Tweeto when he said that Chinese thermostats changed votes. Or was it Italian satellites? Nobody else did, of course, but trump supporters did.

All you can do is laugh hard at these naive suckers.

Unfortunately, America is burdened by these suckers.

[ScatManDoo]

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[ScatManDoo]

By the way, where are all the articles about people who died from Covid after Biden said you could not get it if vaccinated? Where are those hundreds of articles?

Yeah.

Where are the articles filled with Elvis's "alternate" quotes of Biden that were never said?

[PVMonger]

This post is beautiful! I think I will print it & frame it.

So, PV Acknowledges my critical point that the reason the Secret Service were not asked to testify in front of Nancy's inquisition is that their firsthand testimony would have been exculpatory because their testimony would have completely contradicted the third hand testimony of the woman. I am not even going to mention her name anymore. Note: some posters on this thread may not know what exculpatory means. Ha ha.

In any case PV and I agree on something. Unbelievable, but apparently true. These are his words not mine. "If somebody flat out lies in your presence about something you said, you call bullshit immediately. " Absolutely right, and that is just what the two secret service agents riding in the car with Trump on Jan 6 did. They went public with it within hours of the woman's testimony and stated categorically that what the woman told the committee never happened. They also volunteered to testify under oath in front of the committee to what they witnessed firsthand that day in the limo. But the committee did not call them. Game set match. The committee hearings are nothing more than choreographed soviet style show trial. A propaganda ballet..

"If somebody flat out lies in your presence about something you said, you call bullshit immediately. " (highlights are mine).

Here's the definition of "immediately". https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immediately.

Please be so kind as to point out where in the definition it says that an 18 months wait is "immediate".

When you call somebody out for a comment, at least have the decency to know what you're talking about. Waiting 18 months (which is what Ornato and Engle did) to rebut something is certainly not "immediately".

Had Engle refuted the story that Ornato told Hutchinson immediately, while Hutchinson was still in the room, we wouldn't be having this argument. Did he refute the story "immediately"? Nope. Did he refute it 18 months later? Yes. Under oath? Nope.

But, according to you, 18 months is "immediate". FYI, it is not.