American Politics

[ScatManDoo]

First, thank you for finally acknowledging that Biden is a disaster junk POTUS.

I didn't see him write that.

Was this one of your primary delusions?

Or just one of the secondary ones?

[PVMonger]

I understand what most people's first thought are "are they going to assimilate, are they going to contribiute? But for me, that is not the point at all. It is simply a question of human rights. BUt let's set that aside.

Can I ask, what part of US culture do you want immigrants to respect and partake in? What great aspects of culture does the USA exhibit? I see a very conservative society, very racist, highly religious, exceptionalist, self-centered, ignorant, propagandised, dangerous gun / murder-infested society, now stripping away its own people's basic rights (whilst ignoring the rights of people from other countries), not caring about welfare and health of its own people, not providing basic needs. It's an incredibly corrupt country. Is this what you want immigrants to assimilate to?

I hear USAns complain that only "lowlife' try to immigrate. Well, for me, that's hardly surprising. I don't know anyone that wants to go live in the USA. I know plenty that want to move to Europe, Asia, South America, even Aus / Canada / NZ. And plenty of USAns that can't wait to leave. But no intelligent person would want to move to the USA. Why should they? Only a few Hollywood stars and media starlets. The only people that want to enter the USA and the desperate eople that the USA has destroyed the lives of in their own countries.

Would love to hear what you have to say.

Every mass immigration to the USA has resulted in enclaves of like ethnic groups in large cities. In every large city there was a "little Italy" or a "Chinatown" or a "Koreatown", etc. That's where folks of similar heritage could live and speak a familiar language while trying to "make it" in an unfamiliar country. But many of their offspring, especially the ones born in the USA, fully assimilated. They spoke English as a first language although their parents might still speak in their native tongue at home.

While you paint a picture of the USA, I think your picture is a bit skewed. But there are definitely two Americas.

One is as you describe: "a very conservative society, very racist, highly religious, exceptionalist, self-centered, ignorant, propagandised, dangerous gun / murder-infested society, now stripping away its own people's basic rights (whilst ignoring the rights of people from other countries), not caring about welfare and health of its own people, not providing basic needs. " Those folks are the ones who afraid of immigration. They are the ones who attempt to make a distinction between "legacy Americans" and "immigrants". Unfortunately, they are by-and-large too ignorant to realize that if they aren't "native Americans", that they, too, are immigrants. They are the ones who are afraid that the America they know is becoming "browner". And they don't like it.

The other America is quite different. They are liberal, at least in terms thinking that what is good for every citizen is good for America. Many are socially liberal but fiscally conservative. They may be religious but religion doesn't color their whole world. They are mostly college-educated. They may or may not be "anti-gun" but certainly believe that America doesn't need 120 guns per every 100 people.

The assimilationists, though, only think of assimilation as something that white people do. Because if an immigrant is of European origin, the first generation who speaks perfectly unaccented English can certainly pass for one of their so-called "legacy Americans". But an immigrant of color, whether they're Asian, African or Latino can't (according to them) ever assimilate because they don't and can't ever pass for a "legacy American". That's why there are so many "hate crimes" happening that didn't happen before the rise of the Mango Mussolini.

But let's not mistake that the folks who cross the southern border illegally are doing so because the USA is their last hope for a decent life. They may prefer to go elsewhere but the USA is their least-expensive option. Unfortunately, the USA is not, and never will be, able to reform the immigration system or the asylum system properly. The RethugliKKKans won't do it because they're afraid of upsetting their "USA for the white man" base and Democrats won't do it because they will never have a sufficient filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

[EihTooms]

I use the number 1 in quotations as a double entendre (use google to look for definition).

So did you write the code for this autocorrect / autowrong? Don't tell me you know everything it does and doesn't do, I want you to type see'est la vie.

https://frenchtogether.com/cest-la-vie/

That inbred made in China defective cracker is regularly trying to correct others on a whooor board LOL.

Thats like a tavern that only allows proper grammar and no profanity LOL pretty dum / stoopid if you ask me.

The lowest low life mongers trying to be pretentious on a whooor board lmao.

Thou lady projects too much me thinks.

So you're saying that you wrote the number "1" instead of the word "one" and that the auto-correct function here changed it to "one" and eliminated the quotation marks?

I wonder if the same thing happens when I do it. Hmm. Apparently not in the "Preview Report" mode.

[Elvis 2008]

I understand what most people's first thought are "are they going to assimilate, are they going to contribiute?

Can I ask, what part of US culture do you want immigrants to respect and partake in? What great aspects of culture does the USA exhibit? I see a very conservative society, very racist, highly religious, exceptionalist, self-centered, ignorant, propagandised, dangerous gun / murder-infested society, now stripping away its own people's basic rights (whilst ignoring the rights of people from other countries), not caring about welfare and health of its own people, not providing basic needs. It's an incredibly corrupt country. Is this what you want immigrants to assimilate to?

You have been watching the news too much. LOL. At its best the USA is a meritocracy, and you are judged based on performance not the color of your skin, religious views ETC. My father was Russian but emigrated to Iran at an early age. He saw the Russians (very poor and crude), the British (uptight snobs), and Americans (friendly and laid back) while helping the allies in WW2. The one act that made my father want to come to the USA was some lower ranked officer put his feet up on his commander's desk. What that shows you is that even with the military and their supposed chain of command, Americans think of themselves as equals. That is based on our forefathers view that when a state enters the Union, it does not come in as inferior but an equal. Time and again, you see the brilliance of our forefathers. Thing is they tried so many forms of government and saw which ones worked and which ones did not.

The USA is really a melting pot. My high school, and this was back in the 1980's, was a pressure cooker. The expectations were huge, and you hung with your friends to help you. In my circle of friends was a Korean, a black, several Jewish guys, one Arab, one guy from Iran, and several other white guys. We helped each other out, and when one of us succeeded, we felt like we succeeded. We would laugh about our differences and give each us other shit about it. The Jewish guys would ask me if I was going to take them hostage and I told them to have fun going to Hebrew school learning to hang people on crosses. You can do that when you feel like you are equals.

Later on, the Korean told me that there was some racism that he had to deal with when he was younger. The black guy later told me he was giving being shit by the black community for hanging around mostly white people and talking white. Romance wise, he had to deal with white women who often wanted him as a novelty rather than a person. But the idea that white people had no issues was bullshit. The white Jewish guys had stress put on them from their parents and community that was unreal. In my case, my father filled that role. I had a hard time putting my finger on what I went through until I saw Hasan Minaj's hilarious comedy special, Homecoming King. He talked about his father and conditional love. The other insight was the Greek father from My Big Fat Greek Wedding. That man too was so my dad. Whenever I dated someone my father did not like, he would act hurt and once even said, "Why are you going out with this woman? What did I do to you?" he had this incredible ability to let women know he did not like them without saying a word. At the time, I just thought that was normal behavior from a parent. Point is we all had our demons.

When you work in the USA, you have clients of all races and nationalities so if you are a racist you are not going to do well. But you are not going to do well if you only live in your own corner of the world. At work, there were two guys from Pakistan. One helped everyone he could, smiled all the time, had a joke at the ready for any occasion. He was beloved and advanced up the ladder. If he opened his own business, I am sure he would be flooded with customers. Nobody cared he was from Pakistan or a Muslim.

The other guy was religious, shy, and married. He would only hang out with his wife and did not speak much. In the end, he was an okay guy but it took years for people to be comfortable with him, and his aloofness caused anxiety. There was a feeling that a few people expressed that this guy might come in pissed off one day with a bomb strapped to his back and blow up everyone at work. Is that racist? Sure, but no one thought that about the other guy.

Thing is when you put the people into a high performance climate you see who sinks and swims, and I saw people come in from all over the world. In general, American men and yes mostly white ones were the best performers but there were stars from India, Pakistan, England, and Germany. I actually preferred foreign women to American ones. Many American women were amazing but most of the attractive ones would worm their way out of work. It was rare though for anyone coming to the USA who wanted to leave though.

If you live in a good neighborhood in the USA, there is not much crime. The planes run on time. The roads are good. With Amazon, almost any product in the world can literally be at your door step in 2 days. Point is the standard of living is through the roof. An Argentine told me the hardest thing Americans had to get used to when moving to Argentina was when the plumber said he would be there next week, it could be next month. In the USA, in general, if someone says they will be at your house on Tuesday, they will be there on Tuesday.

My dad bought some land way back when. A home was on the land and he was going to bull doze it. A church asked my father not to destroy the home. The church was sponsoring immigrants from Vietnam during and after the war and wanted to put them up in that home. I cannot tell you how many families I saw use that home as a place to settle before moving out and making it on their own. Today that relatively small city has a very active and prosperous Vietnamese community, and the church has done well too. My father thought he had a duty to help immigrants because so many people had helped him. And just like my father helped the Vietnamese immigrants, I am sure those immigrants are helping new ones. That is the American way, a way that is not talked about enough.

With racism, my black friend name got pretty much the same grades and test scores as I did. Can you imagine his reaction when he was told the tests were racist? He knew the people saying that did not do the work like he did.

I remember one Asian not liking a black kid at camp when I was 13. The black kid told the Asian that he was racist. The Asian guy lectured the black kid that he had to deal with racist shit too, and you see this stuff all the time. I finally stepped in and said, "Look, I think the problem is more you than your race so stop it."

I often saw racism used like this, as an excuse. There is no question that my black and Asian friends had to deal with racist issues I did not have to but they did not let them get in their way of succeeding. I never saw race slow down a determined person in the USA. Never.

[EihTooms]

First, thank you for finally acknowledging that Biden is a disaster junk POTUS. Better late than never, like rest of the Democrats. This is good progress.

Now, also thank you for acknowledging that there are dumb Democrats like you, who would still vote for this or another junk disaster Democrat candidate than voting for a better (may not be the best, but better) Republican candidate for the next POTUS. These are who I call "stupid voters" who are so delusional with their party affiliation that they forget to support candidates who are better for their own good. They would rather pay double for everything with inflation, have a terrible economy, have wars all over the world but still not support a better candidate just because that candidate is Republican. These stupid voters now acknowledged that country is in the wrong path, but still won't change their voting pattern. This is actually very sad that these people never learn, bringing down the country and world with their stupidity.

Stop lying. It only makes you look like a liar.

I "acknowledged" exactly none of those things you lied about.

BTW, the poll Gino got all hot, wet and excited about included an "If the election were held today" question.

Biden beat Trump.

Oh, and Harris beat DeSantis. LOL.

Each of those outcomes have turned up in a few polls lately. Also with Biden beating DeSantis.

So, as much as the polls show Americans disapproving of Biden for not solving every horrific problem produced by Trump and his Repubs yet, it is also still quite common for them to "acknowledge" that they disapprove of the Repub leaders and standard bearers even more.

[JustTK]

Considering you don't know who Ted Kennedy
.

I don't see what that has to do with the price of eggs.

But guess what. They all keep on keeping on. They have enough to eat, roofs over their heads, families. Just leave them be to live their lives in their own societies.

That would be great, bcos the majority of them only want that. So let's leave them be then. Let's dismantle all the 750 USA militay basis in 80 countries around the world whose primary goal is to keep down the local populcae so that they can be exploited. Let them live their lives in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Russia, China, Nicuragua. Finally, we agree on a policy.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I assume you know that at least twice so far recently you have used the word "one" in place of the word "won" you could only mean, right?

Or maybe you don't know it.

And that can not be blamed on spell-check or an ordinary typo like leaving an "a" for "an".

Just sayin'.

I use the number 1 in quotations as a double entendre (use google to look for definition).

So did you write the code for this autocorrect / autowrong? Don't tell me you know everything it does and doesn't do, I want you to type see'est la vie.

https://frenchtogether.com/cest-la-vie/

That inbred made in China defective cracker is regularly trying to correct others on a whooor board LOL.

Thats like a tavern that only allows proper grammar and no profanity LOL pretty dum / stoopid if you ask me.

The lowest low life mongers trying to be pretentious on a whooor board lmao.

Thou lady projects too much me thinks.

[JustTK]

With regards to immigration, I wholeheartedly want as many legal immigrants as possible. When it comes to economic strength of a nation's economy, it is beneficial to admit people age 18 to 65 as they are a net benefit to a society versus a cost.
Do we want people who are going to reject our culture and create conflict or assimilate within to it?

I understand what most people's first thought are "are they going to assimilate, are they going to contribiute? But for me, that is not the point at all. It is simply a question of human rights. BUt let's set that aside.

Can I ask, what part of US culture do you want immigrants to respect and partake in? What great aspects of culture does the USA exhibit? I see a very conservative society, very racist, highly religious, exceptionalist, self-centered, ignorant, propagandised, dangerous gun / murder-infested society, now stripping away its own people's basic rights (whilst ignoring the rights of people from other countries), not caring about welfare and health of its own people, not providing basic needs. It's an incredibly corrupt country. Is this what you want immigrants to assimilate to?

I hear USAns complain that only "lowlife' try to immigrate. Well, for me, that's hardly surprising. I don't know anyone that wants to go live in the USA. I know plenty that want to move to Europe, Asia, South America, even Aus / Canada / NZ. And plenty of USAns that can't wait to leave. But no intelligent person would want to move to the USA. Why should they? Only a few Hollywood stars and media starlets. The only people that want to enter the USA and the desperate eople that the USA has destroyed the lives of in their own countries.

Would love to hear what you have to say.

[Gino02]

Don't get too excited, kiddies. I remember when Teflon Ronnie's poll rating hit 35% during his first term and there was serious talk of replacing him as the Repub candidate for 1984.

Biden could be 100 years old in 2024 with 99% of Dem voters preferring someone younger with more energy to shout and scowl about problems Repubs created and no POTUS can solve with a magic wand (outlawing Sex-For-Pleasure, Machine Gun Love, High Gas Prices / Inflation Due To Trump's Pandemic Decisions Destroying Global Supply-Chains, etc) and they still would not be dumb enough to vote for numskulls like Trump, DeSantis or any other Repub in meaningful numbers.

Again, not that it will matter who or what the vast majority of the American electorate votes for once the anti American Democracy Repubs install their election-denying QAnon loons in state and local positions to throw out any ballots and not count votes they don't like.

But that is what Repub and Bothsider voters wished for and got when they saddled the country with 50 Repubs and two DINOs in the Senate.

First, thank you for finally acknowledging that Biden is a disaster junk POTUS. Better late than never, like rest of the Democrats. This is good progress.

Now, also thank you for acknowledging that there are dumb Democrats like you, who would still vote for this or another junk disaster Democrat candidate than voting for a better (may not be the best, but better) Republican candidate for the next POTUS. These are who I call "stupid voters" who are so delusional with their party affiliation that they forget to support candidates who are better for their own good. They would rather pay double for everything with inflation, have a terrible economy, have wars all over the world but still not support a better candidate just because that candidate is Republican. These stupid voters now acknowledged that country is in the wrong path, but still won't change their voting pattern. This is actually very sad that these people never learn, bringing down the country and world with their stupidity.

[PVMonger]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ll-washington/

In fact, Republicans came, at most, 43,000 votes from winning each of the three levers of power. And that will surely temper any move toward drastic corrective action vis-a-vis former president Donald Trump.

By saying, you need 700,000 votes minimum, you pretty much conceded that you cheated in 2020.

I said nothing of the kind, you fool. But you are doing what you do best and that's putting words into people's mouths.

What I said was the links you provided showed a peanuts number of illegal votes. Remember that Donnie the Dumbass (and you) "claimed" that he won the 2020 election popular vote. He lost that popular vote by something like 7 million votes.

So the peanuts number of votes, in a state that the Mango Mussolini won by over one million votes anyway, is absolutely meaningless. Like you.

[JustTK]

Great presentation of the need for a 3rd party (let's face it, I mean a genuine second party) and how Dem voters are standing in the way of real progress:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnLbhdqdy64&t=521s

[Elvis 2008]

You don't have enough IQ points to decorate a domino.]

OMG and you do?

The experts changed their minds once they knew more.

No, they fucked up and corrected it after hundreds / thousands died. You keep acting like that Covid hypoxemia was something new. It was not. Mechanisms of hypoxemia were known way prior to Covid.

The standard of care is to identify the cause of low oxygen and correct it. That was known BEFORE Covid. Ignoring that was a huge mistake, and the reason it was done was the same for all the other dumb shit with Covid. "We are doing stuff see how much we care. " The first rule of medicine is do no harm not make yourself look good by "doing stuff".

The amazing part with you dumb Dems is all the stupid shit that was so harmful with Covid you just pretend like it never happened. It is like Russiagate. You fools carried on for years about that. And when all that turned out to be complete bullshit, there was no remorse or apology. It is like it never happened. It was onto the next bullshit lie, "Well, what about Ukrainegate?

You still have failed to answer whether or not changing their minds was a good thing or a bad thing. So why not give me a simple answer, shit for brains. If someone changes their mind after knowing more, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I'll wait for you not to answer.

They fucked up! Got that? The experts fucked up, and you want to give them credit when they realized later they were fucking up? You are unfucking real. The only reason you want to give these stupid "experts" sloppy blowjobs after they fucked up is you think they are on your team.

[Chris P]

Your inability to understand never fails. Bcos I stand for social and economic justice, u assume I am jealous? Haha...I AM one of the privileged ones too, ufm!

I don't ask for equality of outcome, simply equality of rights and opportunity. Its called empathy, something far beyond the mental capacity of the "chosen ones".

Considering you don't know who Ted Kennedy was, I wouldn't criticize others for their inability to understand anything in this debate.

Different peoples have different cultures and lifestyles. India, Guatemala, Nigeria, wherever, the way people live and think is completely different to the West, and particularly different to the wacko left woke tranny SJW insanity currently infecting a vocal minority.

But guess what. They all keep on keeping on. They have enough to eat, roofs over their heads, families (more so than the West, particularly aforementioned self-hating wacko leftists). Stop obsessing over importing them into a different country to suit your nefarious Great Replacement agenda. Just leave them be to live their lives in their own societies.

[Chris P]

That witch hunt matter was settled.

ROFL so it's a "witch hunt" when a leftist rejects a congressional subpoena, but a jailing offense when a conservative does. I don't know if you people can't see the hypocrisy, or so arrogant that you just don't care. Probably a mix of the two. Either way, the situation is not sustainable and will not last. One way or another, we are taking back our country.

[EihTooms]

Don't you know "an" is supposed to be before abundant?

I guess we can't expect much from a low rent / low iq inbred cracker like yourself.

I guess GED classes in prison don't provide much value.

I assume you know that at least twice so far recently you have used the word "one" in place of the word "won" you could only mean, right?

Or maybe you don't know it.

And that can not be blamed on spell-check or an ordinary typo like leaving an "a" for "an".

Just sayin'.