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07-04-22 15:30 #8843
Posts: 651Reading Is Fundamental
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
I never said that the vaccine prevented transmission. What I said, is that the vaccine makes it far less likely that you will catch the original strain of CoVid..
If you don't get the virus, you can't transmit the virus. You can't transmit what you don't have.
Hey, I have an idea. Maybe Matt Taibbi can explain it to you.
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07-04-22 15:00 #8842
Posts: 1604Really?
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Justice Thomas wrote that he would consider looking at other "precedents" to determine whether or not to overturn them: "In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell," Thomas wrote on Page 119 of the opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health, also referring to the rulings that legalized same-sex relationships and marriage equality, respectively. "Because any substantive due process decision is 'demonstrably erroneous' . We have a duty to 'correct the error' established in those precedents. " Thomas added, "After overruling these demonstrably erroneous decisions, the question would remain whether other constitutional provisions guarantee the myriad rights that our substantive due process cases have generated. " It is interesting, though, that he didn't say anything about interracial marriage which is based upon the same due process argument. Hypocrisy much? https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...omas-griswold/.
Griswold was the case that made it legal for married couples to buy contraceptives. What part of Thomas' writing do you not understand? But he did use some bigly words so maybe that's it.
The three Justices appointed by Donnie the Dumbass all "lied" during their confirmation hearings. They should be brought up on felony charges for lying to Congress during their confirmation hearings when questioned about Roe v. Wade. They will all vote to overturn every decision based on the due process argument and you RethugliKKKans will be happy. You will have turned the US into a Christian version of Iran.
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07-04-22 14:36 #8841
Posts: 1604What hogwash
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Ventilators killed everyone who was put on them? Really? Did your brain ever think that only the very serious COVID cases were put on ventilators? No, you probably didn't. Why not say that chemo and radiation kills everybody who gets that treatment. Because, after all, everybody who has cancer eventually dies, right?
People who think like you are the reason why the US is in such bad shape. Everything is a conspiracy. All doctors, lawyers, journalists, environmentalists, etc. Have all ganged up on the Mango Mussolini and his brain-dead cultists. When the cult looks at a group of people marching somewhere and one person is out-of-step with the rest, the cult claims that everybody else is out-of-step with him.
Oh, yes, and let's not forget the "fake news media". The tRUMP cultists don't know that the leaders in Germany from 1933 to 1945 called the press "fake news" too. Probably because it takes education to know that and education isn't the strong suit of you cultists.Last edited by Admin3; 07-04-22 at 17:57.
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07-04-22 13:13 #8840
Posts: 1680So true
Originally Posted by Villainy [View Original Post]
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/red-bl...ry?id=83649085
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07-04-22 07:40 #8839
Posts: 5454Famous last words
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Biden, other critics fear Thomass extreme position on contraception
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...omas-griswold/
In an opinion concurring with his conservative colleagues on the Supreme Court to overturn the fundamental right to an abortion, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote on Friday that striking down Roe v. Wade should also open up the high court to review other precedents that may be deemed demonstrably erroneous.
Among those, Thomas wrote, was the right for married couples to buy and use contraception without government restriction, from the landmark 1965 ruling in Griswold v. Connecticut.
In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Courts substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell, Thomas wrote on Page 119 of the opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Womens Health, also referring to the rulings that legalized same-sex relationships and marriage equality, respectively. Because any substantive due process decision is demonstrably erroneous we have a duty to correct the error established in those precedents.
https://www.pewtrusts.org/research-a...-birth-control
But in the fine print of their measure, those Republicans revealed that their ambition wasnt only to target a familiar abortion foe. They were going after specific forms of birth control as well, notably, emergency contraceptives, often sold under the brand name Plan B, and intrauterine devices, known as IUDs. GOP lawmakers tried to stop Missouris Medicaid agency from paying for those forms of contraception.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022...arriage-sodomy
After Roe v. Wade ruling, Texas AG Ken Paxton say he would defend reinstating state's sodomy law
https://www.sacurrent.com/news/after...y-law-29249154
https://www.aclu.org/other/update-status-sodomy-laws
Sodomy laws generally prohibit oral and anal sex, even between consenting adults.
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07-04-22 07:05 #8838
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Yet you say you didn't bail out of the market when the incoming Obama admin had to do it. That is some lucky coin you've got to flip there. Make sure you don't lose it.
Bet you wish it had done as well for you all those other times it didn't flip up the right way, huh?
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07-04-22 06:52 #8837
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
As for why leftists lie, for the ones at the top it is because they have a lot to gain from their lies. But for the regular doofuses like we see in this forum, it can only be cognitive dissonance. For their entire lives this fake worldview and belief system has been so indoctrinated into them that it has become ingrained in the very grooves of their brains. For them to break out and accept the reality that the entire basis for their existence has been a lie must be truly terrifying. So they keep telling themselves increasingly outrageous falsehoods to cope.
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07-04-22 04:48 #8836
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
In fact, they are now siccing the FBI on their political enemies, raiding journalists at Project Veritas and former Trump staffers. Another sign of a failing and moribund banana republic regime.
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07-04-22 04:43 #8835
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Then it turned out they were worse than useless, killed everyone who was put on them, and had been a total waste of life and money. So of course the fake news just memoryholed them like Biden collapsing on his plane steps or shitting his pants in the Vatican. Kind of encapsulates the entire scamdemic really, and indeed the entire Washington govt / media swamp.
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07-04-22 03:52 #8834
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
If you go to the 43 minute mark, you will see both these guys tear into the stupid narrative health officials were pushing.
If you go back to like the 40 minute mark, Shapiro lists the lies that destroyed the faith so many people have in government institutions. What gets me is now that we know so much of this stuff is bullshit, there are so many dumb Dems who swear they are true. It's like when Viliany says the vaccine prevented transmission. It is like no, dumbass the head of the CDC said it is not true. Why in the hell would you defy her?
It is like what are you gaining for lying?
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07-04-22 03:51 #8833
Posts: 1138Defund the Democrats: Stop giving money to the party of surrender and inaction
Defund the Democrats: Stop giving money to the party of surrender and inaction. Salon (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ion/ar-AAZ93Sm).
Hilarious when brainwashed libtards realizes they are feeding the cronies. LOL.
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07-04-22 03:16 #8832
Posts: 1782Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp7_o9QGzzA
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07-04-22 03:04 #8831
Posts: 651Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
BTW Sweden falls in almost exactly the same place in 'deaths per capita'. The neighbors: Denmark, Finland and Norway all fall in the bottom 10% of deaths per capita. Hmmmm.
I guess if you are at the 35th percentile of deaths per capita you might think that was pretty good. But your neighbors are at the 10th percentile. I don't know if care much about your family but if it was my family I sure as hell would like to be taking the course that brought our death rate down from the 35th percentile to the 10th percentile.
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Sweden didn't go into lockdowns. The neighbors did but obviously they couldn't stay locked down for a long time. The critical point is this was the early days (say the virus started March 2020). The lockdowns (which were never promoted as a "permanent solution") had the expected effect. Hospitals were able to increase their ICU capability including purchasing ventilators. Vaccines were several months closer to general availability. Net result? Less deaths. Elvis proudly boasted that later when the neighboring countries had big increases in CoVid cases (mostly due to Omnicron) that the tide was turning. But the reality is that Omnicron was far more virulent but also far less lethal and although the neighboring countries lost most of their big advantage in having less cases the lower death count has never changed.
Lockdowns were never a permanent solution. The countries that used them were only able to keep that up for a few months. But the earlier those few months were the better. Results show it.
Sweden would never have been at the top of the death list. Other countries didn't use lockdowns either. Sweden isn't a densely populated country. Population density IS a major factor in how quickly the virus spreads.
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07-04-22 02:39 #8830
Posts: 651Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/hospi...fographic.html
I'm still waiting to see your source.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
US Deaths 1,043,316 (7/2/22).
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
How many deaths were unreported as CoVid?? If anything that number should be higher.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
No, hospitals don't get more money when they list COVID-19 as a patients cause of death
https://www.verifythis.com/article/n...2-0ff482593afd
I tried to help you out but you never learn. Hospitals get paid extra for treating Medicare patients with CoVid but NOT for marking a death certificate as a CoVid death. Pay attention to the key words there Treating Medicare Patients.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
BTW Sweden falls in almost exactly the same place in 'deaths per capita'. The neighbors: Denmark, Finland and Norway all fall in the bottem 10% of deaths per capita. Hmmmm.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Why did the death rate go down after the vaccines were approved and widely used? With a far smaller spike in December-January 2022?
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21C3N5
Whether you like China or not, they seemed to have taken extreme measures to isolate CoVid carriers and control the spread.
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07-03-22 22:25 #8829
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
As for the "right to privacy", and the idea abortion is a "Constitutional right", that is just hilarious. Like Washington, Adams and Jefferson were thinking 'we need to make sure sluts can kill their kids' while they were writing it. Just grasping ridiculously at non-existent straws. Only a leftist could lie so shamelessly. "Right to privacy" my ass. If I kill someone in private does that mean I can't be prosecuted? Well, maybe if I'm related to Biden, Pelosi or Clinton, but for anyone else that's a no.