American Politics

[Gino02]

Dems should read this article:

"So you say you want a revolution? You can count me out" (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...out/ar-AAZ6Qc0).

"The current composition of the court is due to Democrats killing the filibuster rule on Supreme Court nominations despite warnings that it would cost Democrats dearly. When they lost the Senate majority, it cost them not just three seats on the court but the Roe ruling, too. Now, with predictions of Democrats losing both houses, Biden is calling to end the legislative filibuster. It is akin to the Titanic's captain spotting the iceberg and immediately ordering the lifeboats to be burned."

[EihTooms]

Hey, Gramps, I did not go short the market with every incoming Dem. I already said that. I also said I went short in April of this year after April 15. Do you know what it is when one of you Dems repeats the lies of another? It is not popular; it is a duo of dumb Dems. Both you and V have showed me you are morons who do not know how to invest and are way, way down to me. If you are 25% down in the market and I am 50% up, you have to double your money to catch me. Good luck with that Gramps.

Well, why didn't you? Several incoming Dems had to do exactly what Biden had to do in order to clean up the mess the outgoing Repub produced and handed them.

Did the coin flip tell you which way to go those other times too?

[Elvis 2008]

Great post. Yes, Sweden is doing just fine. The vax has been an utter failure, as everyone can still get covid after getting it (not to mention heart attacks, strokes, blood clots, bells palsy, and other cases of SADS. Sudden Adult Death Syndrome). They claim that it lessens the symptoms or some such guff, but that is moving the goalposts: when it was being introduced, the claim was that the vax would prevent infection and transmission. Lies upon lies upon lies..

Exactly. When the vaccine was first given, it met the FDA's criteria. When the effectiveness of the vaccine plunged below 50%, the vaccine really should have been pulled off the market or at least called experimental. To me, if people wanted to take it at that point, if they gave informed consent, that would have been fine, but that is not what happened. The vaccine was mandated. Worse, new criteria were used for effectiveness and the control group which is supposed to be identical or as close as possible to the treated group was just pulled out of thin air. It was the unscientific unvaxxed versus vaxxed.

And then there were no control groups at all for the third and fourth vaccine. There were also no double blind studies done on the newer variants. Even though the vaccine was made for the alpha variant, we were just told to pretend it was as good for the newer variants even though we knew that was not true.

You remember the comparisons of the Covid vaccine to the polio vaccine?

Polio was once one of the most feared diseases in the USA In the early 1950's, before polio vaccines were available, polio outbreaks caused more than 15,000 cases of paralysis each year. Following introduction of vaccinesspecifically, trivalent inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) in 1955 and trivalent oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) in 1963 the number of polio cases fell rapidly to less than 100 in the 1960's and fewer than 10 in the 1970's.

Now look here, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/.

Do you see any difference in death rates and case rates since the vaccine was developed?

Based on the shape of the graphs, and if you did not know when the vaccines were developed and deployed, can you tell when the vaccine was widely deployed?

I sure as hell cannot, but I sure as hell can with polio. You literally have to dive deep into the data to show any benefit at all, but the reason the vaccine was approved, a 95% decrease in transmission, is totally gone. All other claims of benefit have not been scientifically proven. All you have are claims of benefit and unknown risk. No one can make an accurate risk-benefit assessment of the vaccine right now unless you are a Democrat. Then you know.

It is funny though how Covid even as it hitting 100,000 cases now miraculously is out of the news and all that venom against anti-vaxxers has left the building.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Back to Back World War Champions!!

CCPland you're next!

[Elvis 2008]

I never saw anyone die of Covid either

But you know someone who died of a heart attack, cancer, or car accident right?

I'm not a Doubting Elvis I don't think you can ignore the fact that millions died from the disease just because you didn't see it.

The facts are that 9 out of 10 people who die in a hospital have blood clots in their lungs upon death, and that was before Covid. So with just this one fact, nine out of ten hospital deaths can be attributed to Covid even if Covid had nothing to do with the clots. But worse than that, there was financial incentive for those making the cause of death decision to say it was Covid.

There is no objective criteria for a Covid death just like there is not for an opioid overdose which allows politics to enter. If you look at the fine print, it is Covid related or opioid related death. Those deaths are not facts but opinions and financially biased ones.

You wanted to compare Sweden to any of the countries that were having a worse experience no matter where they were located, because you have no analytical integrity. The neighboring countries were the obvious candidates for comparison.

Comparison of what? Sweden had a lousy policy with regards to isolating high risk populations like in the nursing home early on. You just ignore that fact and make generalizations about whole population lockdowns.

Sweden is in the bottom 25% of Covid cases in Europe. Saying Sweden's Covid policy was a failure as it pertains to the general population is just beyond stupid. If you want to reward government policy as the only thing that matter with regards to Covid, a Democratic invention and dubious one at that, Sweden did great.

IThose countries all had secondary waves but by then the Covid virus had mutated after the vaccines were used.

Wrong! You are trying to credit the vaccines with "doing something". The virus was mutating before the vaccines, and the vaccines do not prevent transmission.

The new variants (Omnicron) were far less lethal and far more transmissible.

The point was that the number of deaths per million persons infected went down dramatically. Some people would say that was a big success for their temporary lockdown and testing strategy.

I agree that is what happened, but you show me anywhere those events were planned for in advance. In fact, initially Covid in China was much milder than the strain that hit Europe. So their better death rates were not planned for. It was just dumb luck.

Americans were told repeatedly by the news media that Asian nations were models with regards to the prevention of Covid and how stupid Trump was. My projection on deaths was based upon the data patteren available at the time and then the data changed. When you Dems were holding Asian nations up as models (like you bash Sweden and its model), I was saying just you wait those countries will get theirs. It is funny how you do not remember that.

Mr. E did. He bragged about how great Thailand was doing early on with their mask wearing. Unlike you guys, he grew skeptical once Thailand got crushed by Covid but not you guys. You never are wrong or change your minds about anything.

TI'm sure that those children who missed out on school really preferred having their parents alive. Don't you think??

OMG. Really? Do you read anything outside of lockdowns are good?

https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2...t-rsv-flu.html

The current RSV epidemic is part of a respiratory-disease environment unlike any New Zealand has seen before. Sick children are filling hospital wards after Covid-19 social distancing and lockdown restrictions blocked the development of natural immunity to RSV. Scientists are also watching to see what happens next with influenza after Covid restrictions virtually eliminated the disease.

"As border restrictions are likely eased over the next two years, we will face a resurgence of respiratory viruses".

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/...ad-who-had-rsv

As of July 25, there had been a total 4434 hospitalizations for RSV at those six main hospitals and nine deaths. A Canterbury District Health Board spokesman said one patient had died with an "RSV-related complication" and "pre-existing conditions" during this winter's outbreak. He wouldn't specify the patient's age.

End of quote. The article is not saying it but probably eight of the nine dead were infants. They are the ones who usually get RSV.

When you Dems were blathering on about how great lockdowns were, how did any of you account for the kids who died of RSV? Or did you just ignore the explosion of RSV that happened post lockdown?

[Chris P]

Yep, as much I wanted us to be wrong, but we both said there would be a financial crisis as a result of the lockdowns. Now we are in recession, maybe worse. This is what happens after prolonged lockdowns, extremely poor leadership, cut back / restrictions on oil production and sponsoring a needless war. This is worse case scenario.

It's going to get worse. Hopefully so much worse that we can finally start to make it better.

[Elvis 2008]

You're talking about a dude who doesn't believe in AIDS.

I have seen people on their death bed with AIDS.

Once again, the Democratic playbook was at work. We had the CDC lie about heterosexual aids you fool to get more funding. It is the Democratic playbook again. Say you care more then Republicans and lie about a situation so it benefits you.

[Elvis 2008]

Folks like Elvis would rather have had more people die if they could have made an extra buck. The families of the dead can go pound sand, though, 'cause, well, who cares. Right, Elvis?

LOL. Stanford University professor of medicine Jay Bhattacharya noted last year that in years to come lockdowns will be looked back upon as the most catastrophically harmful policy in all of history.

The epidemiologist added Every single poor person on the face of the earth has faced some harm, sometimes catastrophic harm, from this lockdown policy, adding that "We will be counting the catastrophic health and psychological harms, imposed on nearly every poor person on the face of the earth, for a generation.

A peer reviewed study by Stanford researchers found that mandatory lockdowns do not provide more benefits to stopping the spread of COVID-19 than voluntary measures such as social distancing.

The researchers found no clear, significant beneficial effect of more restrictive measures on case growth in any country.

As we also previously reported, Academics from Duke, Harvard, and Johns Hopkins have concluded that there could be around a million excess deaths over the next two decades as a result of lockdowns. Kluge's warning matched that of the WHO's special envoy on COVID-19, Dr David Nabarro, who told the Spectator in an interview that world leaders should stop imposing lockdowns as a reflex reaction because they are making poor people an awful lot poorer.

[Xpartan]

We have a blowhard expert right here in Elvis. Just ask him. He's never wrong.

You're talking about a dude who doesn't believe in AIDS. There is no way back from there, things can only go downhill.

[Villainy]

"Tucker Carlson said this in a legal case. Only a fool would believe him." And yet you still believe him. What does that make you?

OUCH! that has to hurt.

[Villainy]

Yeah, I never saw anyone die with Covid.

I never saw anyone die of Covid either but I'm not a Doubting Elvis I don't think you can ignore the fact that millions died from the disease just because you didn't see it.

These Dem dummies forget their God awful predictions.

The only prediction I made was that you would be wrong on a grand scale, because you don't have any analytical skills and you were just parroting what your orange hero was saying. Remember? Covid will disappear in a few months when the weather turns warm. Remember? OH wait! The Southern hemisphere was still finishing their summer and Covid cases there were multiplying exponentially.

They spew this crap about Sweden but only compare it to countries with worse numbers. Sweden was in the bottom 25% of cases and deaths in all of Europe. The English and French hailed Sweden's policies as a success story.

NO you can't stand it that your great example was a bust. You wanted to compare Sweden to any of the countries that were having a worse experience no matter where they were located, because you have no analytical integrity. The neighboring countries were the obvious candidates for comparison. Almost perfect similarities and they all chose to lockdown at least for a while.

I know, I know, those comparisons urinated all over your theory and you're still sensitive about it. Grow up!

The other "success" countries like New Zealand, Australia, South Korea, and Thailand the drive by media was raving about got clobbered by later waves of Covid, but the funny thing was the absolute denial on the horrific effects Covid lockdowns had with depression, opioids, the economy, and children and their education.

Those countries all had secondary waves but by then the Covid virus had mutated after the vaccines were used. The new variants (Omnicron) were far less lethal and far more transmissible.

The point was that the number of deaths per million persons infected went down dramatically. Some people would say that was a big success for their temporary lockdown and testing strategy.

I'm sure that those children who missed out on school really preferred having their parents alive. Don't you think??

I would correct the rest of your rant but it just gets to be too tiring. Perhaps one of our objective members will step in to finish off your latest garbage

[PVMonger]

V showed the dumb Dem method. Attack the source. Dems are so stupid that they think if they say "Oh, Fox News" they have won an argument. If you push them on it, they will attack the credentials of the source. Tucker Carlson said this in a legal case. Only a fool would believe him.

So Mr. Expert V lost all that because it was Biden himself that was talking. He then tries to save himself and does the could game. Biden could have been talking about Jeffrey Epstein. No, Biden was talking about an article written and we know when this was and what the article was about. This had nothing to do with Jeffery Epstein. Epstein was a lie V pulled out of his ass.

The Democrats are the party of liar lawyers, and the joke I make about lawyers is that you know what they say when they shoot you in the leg? "You are lucky. I could have shot you in the head". That is the method of the dumb Dem. They shoot you and then expect you to be grateful.

"Tucker Carlson said this in a legal case. Only a fool would believe him." And yet you still believe him. What does that make you?

[PVMonger]

Great post. Yes, Sweden is doing just fine. The vax has been an utter failure, as everyone can still get covid after getting it (not to mention heart attacks, strokes, blood clots, bells palsy, and other cases of SADS. Sudden Adult Death Syndrome). They claim that it lessens the symptoms or some such guff, but that is moving the goalposts: when it was being introduced, the claim was that the vax would prevent infection and transmission. Lies upon lies upon lies.

The really fascinating fact is that there were no total excess deaths in 2020. That is to say, the usual number of people died in that year. All the people who died of "covid" actually died of various comorbidities and would have gone anyway. However, since 2021, there has been a spike in total excess deaths. Ie since the mass vaccine rollout.

The economic side alone. Not to mention the suffering, opioid abuse, depression, stunted childhoods, etc. Is horrific. But I tend to see the silver lining, which will be the collapse of the federal government and the evil Washington swamp and its fake news wormtongues. When they can simply no longer pay for their repression operations, freedom-minded Americans will be more likely to break out from under them and restore our liberty and way of life.

It will be tough and messy, but things have to get worse before they can get better.

When the COVID vaccine was introduced the claim was that the vax would prevent infection and transmission Sure thing, Chrissy. You got a source for that? But what's more, just who was president* when the vaccine was developed? Your boy the Mango Mussolini, that's who. If there was a problem with the vaccine effectiveness, who gets the blame? Your boy the Mango Mussolini, that's who.

The vaccine isn't safe because you can get things like heart attacks, strokes, blood clots, bells palsy, and other cases of SADS. The things you mentioned (and others that you didn't) occur about 5 times per million vaccine shots. Which is an infinitesimal percentage. About the same percentage as you or any other rightwingnut making sense in one of your posts.

There were no excess deaths in 2020 Really? As shown here https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/e...e?country=~USA But you will probably say something like, "well those numbers don't account for pre-existing conditions because any excess death with a pre-existing condition doesn't count. ".

[PVMonger]

Yeah, I never saw anyone die with Covid. Thing is that calculation was based on what was known at the time. These Dem dummies forget their God awful predictions. They spew this crap about Sweden but only compare it to countries with worse numbers. Sweden was in the bottom 25% of cases and deaths in all of Europe. The English and French hailed Sweden's policies as a success story.

The other "success" countries like New Zealand, Australia, South Korea, and Thailand the drive by media was raving about got clobbered by later waves of Covid, but the funny thing was the absolute denial on the horrific effects Covid lockdowns had with depression, opioids, the economy, and children and their education.

So many studies have shown now the lockdowns were not worth the cost, but I knew the dumb Dems would never accept the cost. When do they ever? I was so pissed GW Bush took 9-11 and took us $3 trillion into more debt and crashed the economy, but that was nothing. I think Covid was $6 billion in federal programs and $3 trillion added on the Fed's balance sheet.

Chris, did you see the video where Biden said government spending does not cause inflation? Yeah, it was all Putin.

The latest financial data was the ISM survey sucked and GDPnow run by the Atlanta Fed is projecting a Q2 of -201 percent which means we are in a recession and have been the whole year. https://mishtalk.com/economics/gdpno...learly-started.

The funny thing now is that you know now how the dumb Dems react. This is a projection not a reality. Show some other blowhard "expert" making a case against this, Then there will be acceptance and the finger pointing. So here is my odds on who is to blame for the recession: 60% Putin, 30% Trump, and 10% some other party. I have a feeling the dumb Dems may, may try to drag the Supreme Court in it. Maybe antivaxxers? You never know.

Or maybe, just maybe, the Dems will accept responsibility for the recession and pledge to do better.

He he he. Like that will ever happen.

Last things in the world that caused the recession were the stupid fucking lockdowns and excessive government spending.

We have a blowhard expert right here in Elvis. Just ask him. He's never wrong.

Here is Elvis with a PhD in Economics.

Like the BS of "So many studies have shown now the lockdowns were not worth the cost". To RethugliKKKans, nothing is worth the financial cost because they see everything in terms of the almighty dollar. If lockdowns saved lives, the lockdowns weren't worth it to RethugliKKKans. If lockdowns helped slow the onslaught of patients to hospital ERs, lockdowns weren't worth it to RethugliKKKans. Folks like Elvis would rather have had more people die if they could have made an extra buck. The families of the dead can go pound sand, though, 'cause, well, who cares. Right, Elvis? https://theconversation.com/why-nobo...orth-it-161154.

Here is Elvis the MD

Evidently Elvis believes that COVID was the only disease in the history of humankind that never killed people who were healthy. Which is complete BS and he knows it. In actuality, everybody has some kind of pre-existing condition. It may not have been tested for yet, but it is there. But, according to Elvis the M. The, if you have a pre-existing condition and you die of COVID, you actually died of the pre-existing condition, not COVID. What BS.

Everybody needs to realize that Elvis is an expert in everything. But what is an exspurt. An ex is a has-been and a spurt is a drip under pressure.

[MarquisdeSade1]

If Elvis went short on the market every time an incoming Dem had to massively deficit spend in order to pull us out of the horrific decline combined with stone cold empty coffers the outgoing Repub left behind and simply do it at some point when the tactic showed signs of working and was no longer needed then that was a pretty damn easy pattern to follow without all this constant daily if not hourly study, research and due diligence on irrelevant factors he appears to devote himself to for the cause.

Problem is not every one of those previous Dem rescues and recoveries of the Repub crash and decline coincidentally had the global supply-chain collapse, Ukrainian grain and Russian oil supply disruptions extending and exacerbating the inevitable recovery-related inflation issue this one has going against it.

So if he had followed his repeated "reasoning" for going short this time in those previous times he would not have produced a gain worth the risk of getting out of the market.

In fact, if he had sold out of the market those previous times for the same "reason" he boasts about having gotten out this time that means he stood by on the sidelines and missed out on some of the greatest and longest uninterrupted Bull Market runs in history.

I'm guessin free trailer homes and cars are next.

Just one big plantation, billionaires and their slaves.

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/ca...are-immigrants