American Politics

[EihTooms]

Twelve million jobs were added between April, 2020 and January, 2021, when Biden took office. And employment was going to continue to increase regardless of who was president. Yes, we might have a somewhat higher unemployment rate and fewer jobs if not for the Democrats' spending bills in 2021 and 2022. But at what cost? The federal debt held by the public is $26 trillion.

Employment did not increase no matter who was president after the 1929 Great Repub Crash until after FDR and the Dems took over in March 1933 and began to legislate the New Deal. The Coolidge / Hoover Twins of Supply-Side / Trickle-Down Tax Policy and Zero-to-Disastrous Economic Stewardship are still the revered Repub Party template that Reagan, Bush2 and Trump repeated. With the expected results.

If incoming Dem Biden has launched into the same lies, mocking mitigation measures and horrific mismanagement of the vaccine distribution and administration that Trump exhibited re the virus and Trump's Pandemic for every month of 2020, even more millions of jobs would have been lost. The post-election relief rally in the stock market after it was known that Biden won was one of if not the greatest stock market relief rally in history. Because the forward-looking stock market investors knew a Dem Biden was not going to pull a Repub Hoover, Reagan, Bush2 or Trump and make all the worst decisions to exacerbate their Repub economic disaster. In all probability every job recovery and unemployment rate decline after January 20 was based on that same premise.

Thanks, Joe.

BTW, the same dramatic change of course reflection point recovery in the stock market, jobs creation and the end of GW Bush's Great Recession began within two weeks of Obama signing and passing the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009. With virtually no Repub support. All Dems. Legislation, not simply sitting there waiting for a recovery that might not begin for another 4-5 years and not a matter of them simply saying, "But we're Democrats"! Legislation. Work. Doing Something. Not Doing Nothing or Doing Something Stupid.

And what followed was, as under FDR, Clinton, Biden and even Carter and JFK / LBJ, one of the Greatest Economic Recoveries and Jobs Creation Presidential Terms of all time.

If those things happen "no matter who is president" shouldn't it have happened at least once under a Repub president in the past 100 years or so? I mean, even due to random chance? Instead of not even once?

[Tiny 12]

Second, the millions upon millions of jobs Trump wiped out when his efforts finally produced Trump's Pandemic were truly wiped out and lost. They were not put "on hiatus" with pay, go take a vacation for a few weeks.

Twelve million jobs were added between April, 2020 and January, 2021, when Biden took office. And employment was going to continue to increase regardless of who was president. Yes, we might have a somewhat higher unemployment rate and fewer jobs if not for the Democrats' spending bills in 2021 and 2022. But at what cost? The federal debt held by the public is $26 trillion.

[EihTooms]

Sorry. OK, I get it now. You attended the EihTooms School of Economics. You're giving Biden credit for every job added in the USA from the day Biden took office, after the end of a pandemic-induced recession that represented the worst downturn since the Great Depression.

The total number of non-farm jobs in February, 2020 when COVID struck was 152,371,000, and there are 157,087,000 now. That's during a period when the working aged population increased from 205,608,000 to 209,039,000.

The EihTooms School believes that GDP growth and employment growth are only correlated to the party of the president, and all data must be interpreted to the benefit of Democratic presidents. Trump deserves all the blame for job losses during a worldwide pandemic, and Ronald Reagan deserves all the blame for a recession that started during the Carter Administration. Barrack Obama and Joe Biden deserve sole credit for all gains in GDP and jobs coming out of recessions. Any any GDP growth or increase in jobs during the Reagan and Trump administration (pre-COVID) were just because of conditions created by President Carter and President Obama respectfully.

I'm more a Chicago School adherent myself.

DINO's, LOL.

Uh. First of all, Trump's Pandemic was an economic policy and stewardship choice made by Donald Trump in 2018,2019 and all through 2020. It did not just "happen" to the poor idiot out of nowhere. He was fully warned against making those dangerous and stupid decisions but made them anyway.

Second, the millions upon millions of jobs Trump wiped out when his efforts finally produced Trump's Pandemic were truly wiped out and lost. They were not put "on hiatus" with pay, go take a vacation for a few weeks.

The same as when The Great Repub Depression "struck", the Great Repub Reagan Whopping Ten Consecutive Months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates "struck", GW Bush's Great Repub Recession "struck", etc.

Seriously? Your School of Economics taught you that massive, historic job losses in the millions during Great (typically Repub) Economics Disasters are never really "lost" and that when recoveries and boom times are created (typically Dem. And note, they don't just "happen" nor are they "struck") thanks to real world efforts like legislation and new policies enacted, they were never really "gained"?

LOL. I'd ask for a refund of whatever you paid for those lessons if I were you. That is, unless they try to bamboozle you by floating different concepts than "pay" and "lessons" for that kind of event too.

[EihTooms]

Amazing, isn't it? But but but we saw crimes being committed for the first time ever since January 20,2021. On YouTube!

Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz says more stores to close for security reasons.
July 19, 2022

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...urity-reasons/

In a video posted on Twitter, Schultz said Starbucks is closing stores that are not unprofitable due to an uptick in safety-related problems including crime, homelessness and drug use in bathrooms. The company earlier announced plans to close 16 locations because of security issues.

This is just the beginning, and there are going to be many more, Schultz said. It has shocked me that one of the primary concerns that our retail partners have is their own personal safety.

Starbucks has previously said it will close locations in Portland, Oregon; Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Seattle and Washington, D.C.

Damn you, Joe Biden and the Dems!

Oh, wait:

Starbucks accused by NLRB of union busting for closing 23 stores.
Dec. 14, 2023

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...sing-23-stores

The National Labor Relations Board is looking to force Starbucks to reopen 23 stores the coffee giant closed last year, accusing the company of shuttering the union and non-union shops as part of a union-busting effort.

Ah okay. Nevermind.

Lolol.

[Tiny 12]

I'm just worried, that with you exhibiting such "liberal values", you may have to turn-in your Repub conservative membership card...kkkK!

Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism

[Tiny 12]

If by "spendthrifts", you mean Repubs stupidly, giving away money to billionaires, to produce another ineffectual "trickle-down" style economy, in the hopes that some crumbs will make it to working Americans, then you'd be correct about Republicans spendthrifts.

Point is, on Biden's watch (since he took office), 14 million jobs were created. IRA, infrastructure and Chip and Science Acts are naturally a big part of that jobs picture.

(...kkkk!) I know your not used to seeing good economics, especially after 4-years of Trump's ineptitude and bad stewardship from Repubs (or any stewardship for that matter), which is probably the reason you're full of doubts and is totally understandable, just as Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX), frustratingly, can't find "one thing...one good thing" Repubs have done.

But the 20 million jobs, YOU CAN BOOK IT! Biden created 14 million, with only 1.5 trillion. Project that out to 2.5 trillion, and the 6 million more jobs, is totally doable.

As for your so called "heroes", the "no nothing" DINOs, and the ousted, disgraced former speaker and the Repub "pink trickle" House, all of which are either gone, soon to be gone, or will be shortly reduced to "pink drips", isn't saying very much, when it comes producing meaningful and substantive governance, economics and jobs for Americans.

All this GREAT economic data, DESPITE, your "so called heroes", trying their utmost to thwart Biden's economic measures.
11 months positive job gains in a row
better/stronger than expected November 2023 unemployment and job numbers. {ie. 19,000 more job created than expected}
the lowest in 50 years as the US payrolls rise 199,000; jobless rate drops to 3.7%
Unemployment rate the lowest since 1969
US Inflation, hovering around 3%, is the lowest in 2-years
14 million more jobs created since Biden Took office, than the 6 million for the same period for Trump

Yeah, 20 million jobs, in a Biden run economy...just BOOK it!

Sorry. OK, I get it now. You attended the EihTooms School of Economics. You're giving Biden credit for every job added in the USA from the day Biden took office, after the end of a pandemic-induced recession that represented the worst downturn since the Great Depression.

The total number of non-farm jobs in February, 2020 when COVID struck was 152,371,000, and there are 157,087,000 now. That's during a period when the working aged population increased from 205,608,000 to 209,039,000.

The EihTooms School believes that GDP growth and employment growth are only correlated to the party of the president, and all data must be interpreted to the benefit of Democratic presidents. Trump deserves all the blame for job losses during a worldwide pandemic, and Ronald Reagan deserves all the blame for a recession that started during the Carter Administration. Barrack Obama and Joe Biden deserve sole credit for all gains in GDP and jobs coming out of recessions. Any any GDP growth or increase in jobs during the Reagan and Trump administration (pre-COVID) were just because of conditions created by President Carter and President Obama respectfully.

I'm more a Chicago School adherent myself.

DINO's, LOL.

[Spidy]

Bridget may not be perfect, but I'd do her.

Hmmmm....Question is, would she do YOU? (...kkkk!)

Meaning, she may have "turned the corner" and is now, ONLY banging "LGBTQ pussy"? And doesn't want Christian Ziegler, "limp dick" anymore? Ergo, him desperately needing to "get jiggy" elsewhere. I gotta say, it just raises a whole lot of unanswered questions.

Hey, on the flip side, 'tis good to see a Republican, embrace wanting to bang "LGBTQ pussy", even if it is a hypocrite like, Bridget Zielger...again, no judgement here!

I'm just worried, that with you exhibiting such "liberal values", you may have to turn-in your Repub conservative membership card...kkkK!

[Spidy]

That is exactly the correct way of assessing it.

Okay, show of hands.

Who here thinks the reason Nude Grinbitch, John (no) Boner, Kevin McQarthy, ChristoFacist Mike, etc and their congressional Repubs suddenly became the Party of NO / Obstruction / Slow-Walking on Recovery Legislation, clawed back Dem spending proposals, repeatedly engaged in brinksmanship on paying our bills and enacting government shutdowns, etc was because they cared about the welfare of the American people, wanted things to get better for everyone ASAP and sincerely wanted the Dem in the White House to look much better with a thriving economy and balanced budget when either he or his VP runs for election in a year or two?

LOL. I had to refrain from cracking myself up with laughter even as I wrote that little survey question. My god. How gullible would a sucker have to be to entertain such a ridiculous idea even in passing.

No. They did that because they were / are hoping to Thwart or, preferably, Reverse the economic gains, growth, jobs creation AND projected economic expansion revenue to balance the budget along the way that they know better than anyone else WILL occur due to typical Democratic Party Tax / Spend Policies and Stewardship even as such results have NEVER happened due to Republican Party Tax / Spend Policies and Stewardship. Not when you factor in the inevitable Great Repub Depression / Recession and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction that comes in the exact same Repub package.

Yes, I had a good chuckle myself!

It is irrefutable that any and every, statement, move, proposal and decision made by Repubs while a Dem is in the White House is not meant to improve anything. Anything. Not to improve business confidence, not to increase jobs creation, not to promote GDP growth, not to reduce unavoidable recovery inflation, not to make the border more secure, not to strengthen national security, not to reduce crime or killings, not to help balance the budget.

Nothing.

Good post and spot on! Like echos of Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX) hard hitting speech, it has become a resonating reality, that many Repubs, just can't shake.

It is always and only meant to reduce the expected (especially by congressional Repubs, who know better than anyone) positive results of that Dem POTUS' economic philosophy, agenda, proposals, legislation, policies and stewardship. And, preferably, to totally reverse those results before the next election.

Uh, yeah. I did not and will never be gullible and stupid enough to raise my hand on that one.

I'm sure a few gullible Repub hands, shot up! Which would stand to reason, as Trump does like his voters, uneducated with healthy dose of gullibility. (....kkkk!)

However, it bears repeating, that with all of the DINOs/MAGA Repub "thwarting" measures you've superbly outline above, it just amazing how Biden, has managed an economy this good, this impressive, and this resilient, despite the obstructionists and naysayers.

[Spidy]

Yeah, a lot of Republicans are spendthrifts too, only too willing to spend federal money in their districts that is better appropriated and spent by the state and local governments in their districts. And there's no way the IRA, infrastructure and Chip and Science Acts created or will create 14 million jobs. That would imply a negative unemployment rate, unless the labor force participation rate increases markedly. And it hasn't. It's still below pre-COVID levels.

If by "spendthrifts", you mean Repubs stupidly, giving away money to billionaires, to produce another ineffectual "trickle-down" style economy, in the hopes that some crumbs will make it to working Americans, then you'd be correct about Republicans spendthrifts.

Point is, on Biden's watch (since he took office), 14 million jobs were created. IRA, infrastructure and Chip and Science Acts are naturally a big part of that jobs picture.

Twenty million jobs? No way. But he definitely could have added at least a few trillion more to the national debt, and a couple more points to inflation in 2021, if not for the heroic efforts of Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin, and, in 2023, Kevin McCarthy and House Republicans.

(...kkkk!) I know your not used to seeing good economics, especially after 4-years of Trump's ineptitude and bad stewardship from Repubs (or any stewardship for that matter), which is probably the reason you're full of doubts and is totally understandable, just as Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX), frustratingly, can't find "one thing...one good thing" Repubs have done.

But the 20 million jobs, YOU CAN BOOK IT! Biden created 14 million, with only 1.5 trillion. Project that out to 2.5 trillion, and the 6 million more jobs, is totally doable.

As for your so called "heroes", the "no nothing" DINOs, and the ousted, disgraced former speaker and the Repub "pink trickle" House, all of which are either gone, soon to be gone, or will be shortly reduced to "pink drips", isn't saying very much, when it comes producing meaningful and substantive governance, economics and jobs for Americans.

All this GREAT economic data, DESPITE, your "so called heroes", trying their utmost to thwart Biden's economic measures.
• 11 months positive job gains in a row
• better/stronger than expected November 2023 unemployment and job numbers. {ie. 19,000 more job created than expected}
• the lowest in 50 years as the US payrolls rise 199,000; jobless rate drops to 3.7%
• Unemployment rate the lowest since 1969
• US Inflation, hovering around 3%, is the lowest in 2-years
• 14 million more jobs created since Biden Took office, than the 6 million for the same period for Trump

Yeah, 20 million jobs, in a Biden run economy...just BOOK it!

[EihTooms]

Yeah, I was meaning to circle back to this, glad you did.

Well, if this "one (1) thing" is really, so great as you claim, I'm sure Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX), will have no problem, mounting a absolute stellar campaign on this issue. An issue, that is just so vital, front and center most Americans. This should be interesting, Chip explaining to his constituency, considering that 14 million jobs were created, on a reduced IRA.



What you failed to include and left out, from the the Jared Bernstein, interview, was him presenting the whole picture, that Biden's budget, has $2.5 trillions dollars of debt reduction measures in it, to combat the deficit and that Biden has been actively and aggressively tackling the debt.

Simply put, when asked, Jared Bernstein, mentioned the one (1) trillions dollars off the 10 yr deficit, noted in Fiscal Responsibility Act, as part of the question to the debt and inflation reduction. I hardly see that, as taking credit.

But if he were asked, I'm sure he'd remind the interviewer, the many Repubs, who shouted from the mountain tops, the tremendous benefits and economic success, their very own states are now enjoying, from IRA infrastructure/Chip and Science Acts, and the 14 million jobs created, that they themselves voted against. Yeah, frickin' unbelievable!

Personally, When I think about the "claw back" of the one (1) trillion dollars, it reminds me of, just how much greater the Biden economy could have been. Maybe 20 million jobs!!!

That is exactly the correct way of assessing it.

Okay, show of hands.

Who here thinks the reason Nude Grinbitch, John (no) Boner, Kevin McQarthy, ChristoFacist Mike, etc and their congressional Repubs suddenly became the Party of NO / Obstruction / Slow-Walking on Recovery Legislation, clawed back Dem spending proposals, repeatedly engaged in brinksmanship on paying our bills and enacting government shutdowns, etc was because they cared about the welfare of the American people, wanted things to get better for everyone ASAP and sincerely wanted the Dem in the White House to look much better with a thriving economy and balanced budget when either he or his VP runs for election in a year or two?

LOL. I had to refrain from cracking myself up with laughter even as I wrote that little survey question. My god. How gullible would a sucker have to be to entertain such a ridiculous idea even in passing.

No. They did that because they were / are hoping to Thwart or, preferably, Reverse the economic gains, growth, jobs creation AND projected economic expansion revenue to balance the budget along the way that they know better than anyone else WILL occur due to typical Democratic Party Tax / Spend Policies and Stewardship even as such results have NEVER happened due to Republican Party Tax / Spend Policies and Stewardship. Not when you factor in the inevitable Great Repub Depression / Recession and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction that comes in the exact same Repub package.

It is irrefutable that any and every, statement, move, proposal and decision made by Repubs while a Dem is in the White House is not meant to improve anything. Anything. Not to improve business confidence, not to increase jobs creation, not to promote GDP growth, not to reduce unavoidable recovery inflation, not to make the border more secure, not to strengthen national security, not to reduce crime or killings, not to help balance the budget.

Nothing.

It is always and only meant to reduce the expected (especially by congressional Repubs, who know better than anyone) positive results of that Dem POTUS' economic philosophy, agenda, proposals, legislation, policies and stewardship. And, preferably, to totally reverse those results before the next election.

Uh, yeah. I did not and will never be gullible and stupid enough to raise my hand on that one.

[Tiny 12]

What you failed to include and left out, from the the Jared Bernstein, interview, was him presenting the whole picture, that Biden's budget, has $2.5 trillions dollars of debt reduction measures in it, to combat the deficit and that Biden has been actively and aggressively tackling the debt.

I never heard him say that in the CNBC interview, but if true, $1.5 trillion of the $2.5 trillion would be the Republican claw backs, which were obtained only after considerable kicking and screaming by Democratic Party politicians during the debt ceiling debate..

But if he were asked, I'm sure he'd remind the interviewer, the many Repubs, who shouted from the mountain tops, the tremendous benefits and economic success, their very own states are now enjoying, from IRA infrastructure/Chip and Science Acts, and the 14 million jobs created, that they themselves voted against. Yeah, frickin' unbelievable!

Yeah, a lot of Republicans are spendthrifts too, only too willing to spend federal money in their districts that is better appropriated and spent by the state and local governments in their districts. And there's no way the IRA, infrastructure and Chip and Science Acts created or will create 14 million jobs. That would imply a negative unemployment rate, unless the labor force participation rate increases markedly. And it hasn't. It's still below pre-COVID levels.

Personally, When I think about the "claw back" of the one (1) trillion dollars, it reminds me of, just how much greater the Biden economy could have been. Maybe 20 million jobs!!!

Twenty million jobs? No way, unless he started providing free travel and instant citizenship to anyone willing to move to the USA. And encouraged the kind of sweat shops that the Marquis prefers to have on American soil instead of in foreign countries. But Biden definitely could have added at least a few trillion more to the national debt, and a couple more points to inflation in 2021, if not for the heroic efforts of Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin, and, in 2023, Kevin McCarthy and House Republicans.

Hmmmm...Okay! Anyways, certainly not Republicans Christian & Bridget Ziegler, Florida RNC or Moms for Liberty (or are we now calling it MILFs for Liberty...kkkk!

Bridget may not be perfect, but I'd do her.

[EihTooms]

all of that was as bad or worse under Trump than under Biden.

"Not only was the rate of violent crime as described by in your retail managers' anecdotes less in 2022 under Biden than in all but one year under Trump:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...usa-since-1990

But there is also plenty of data to suggest many retail managers are blaming convenient "boogymen" for shrinkage and retail losses incurred due to their own mismanagement, poor marketing and incompetence in the face of competition heightened by, yep say it with me, Trump's Pandemic. Lolol.

Stores say shoplifting is a national crisis. The numbers don't back it up.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/busin...ens/index.html".

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...-home/3183846/.

Uh. You do know crimes occurred all around the world even before the creation of 24/7/365 Cable News Channels, 24/7/365 Internet Access and everyone keeping a locked and loaded smartphone camera at the ready in their hand, right?

[Spidy]

Hey, nobody's perfect.

Hmmmm...Okay! Anyways, certainly not Republicans Christian & Bridget Ziegler, Florida RNC or Moms for Liberty (or are we now calling it MILFs for Liberty...kkkk!

[Spidy]

The Republican House has done a great job in 2023. Remember the negotiations to raise the national debt ceiling back in May. The House Republicans managed to claw back $1.5 trillion over 10 years from the $5 trillion+ in spending legislated by Biden and Democrats in 2021 and 2022. Chip Roy's problem is that he believes they should have clawed back more. Fair enough, but $1.5 trillion is quite an accomplishment considering Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency.

Yeah, I was meaning to circle back to this, glad you did.

Well, if this "one (1) thing" is really, so great as you claim, I'm sure Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX), will have no problem, mounting a absolute stellar campaign on this issue. An issue, that is just so vital, front and center most Americans. This should be interesting, Chip explaining to his constituency, considering that 14 million jobs were created, on a reduced IRA.

I was watching CNBC last week, and Jared Bernstein, the chairman of President Biden's Council of Economic Advisors was expounding on the accomplishments of the President. Chief among them was saving $1 trillion through passage of the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023! This is the money that the Republicans clawed back! In other words, Biden's economic advisor is taking credit for something that got passed only because Republicans threatened not to increase the debt limit. Democrats were shouting Armageddon and now they're taking credit for the legislation! Unbelievable!

What you failed to include and left out, from the the Jared Bernstein, interview, was him presenting the whole picture, that Biden's budget, has $2.5 trillions dollars of debt reduction measures in it, to combat the deficit and that Biden has been actively and aggressively tackling the debt.

Simply put, when asked, Jared Bernstein, mentioned the one (1) trillions dollars off the 10 yr deficit, noted in Fiscal Responsibility Act, as part of the question to the debt and inflation reduction. I hardly see that, as taking credit.

But if he were asked, I'm sure he'd remind the interviewer, the many Repubs, who shouted from the mountain tops, the tremendous benefits and economic success, their very own states are now enjoying, from IRA infrastructure/Chip and Science Acts, and the 14 million jobs created, that they themselves voted against. Yeah, frickin' unbelievable!

Personally, When I think about the "claw back" of the one (1) trillion dollars, it reminds me of, just how much greater the Biden economy could have been. Maybe 20 million jobs!!!

[EihTooms]

I wonder why. LOL. Well, no, not really.

Biden-Trump rematch would be close, with RFK Jr a threat to Biden: Reuters/Ipsos poll.
Dec. 13, 2023

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bid...ll-2023-12-12/

The poll showed Trump with a marginal 2-point lead in a head-to-head matchup, 38% to 36%, with 26% of respondents saying they weren't sure or might vote for someone else.
...
The poll, conducted online Dec. 5-11, surveyed 4,411 U.S. adults nationwide and had a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of about 2 percentage points.
...
The state-by-state Electoral College system used to pick presidents, and deep-seated partisan divides, mean that voters in just a handful of states will play a decisive role in the election's outcome.
...
In the seven states where the election was closest in 2020 -- Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Michigan -- Biden had a 4-point lead among Americans who said they were sure to vote.

Man, I had to go deep into that report to find that last part. LOL.

After several days I have yet to see this report factored into the demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP site very much. But they jumped on that ultra Winger-leaning Rasmussen poll within minutes! Lolol.