American Politics

[EihTooms]

Seriously, what does it say about a nominee's fitness for Office as well as the verifiable and defensible record results of his previous term that every VP of the 3 most recent Repub Presidencies, including his own, along with dozens of Cabinet-level and other members of his own administration who knew him well, worked next to him, observed him on a daily basis and know what he is up to and all about have gone public in opposing his re-election?

It really is astonishing, unprecedented in Presidential Electoral History. And so telling.

Damn. Just look at this list!

List of Republicans who oppose the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...ntial_campaign

Yes, of course, in keeping with my usual non partisan openness to giving every Political Party a free and fair opportunity to win my vote and support based solely on each Party's long, long, long term record of results and never based solely on Party Affiliation, I entered the same Google Search topic for Joe. Biden's re-election campaign. And I even found a Fux News link for it, which I am happy to include here:

List of Democrats opposed to Biden running for re-election grows with addition of vulnerable congresswoman.
Aug. 2022

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lis...-congresswoman

https://theweek.com/joe-biden/101540...nge-biden-2024

So, I found some lady named Craig, another one named Williamson and that Phillips guy, who ran a pathetic campaign for the Dem nomination vs Biden. Maybe that Williamson lady is running too, not sure. And I suppose she is or was a Dem, too. Again, not sure. And there is West and that anti-vax conspiracy theory weirdo RFK Jr. I have no idea what Party he belongs to anymore. Maybe the Pro Measles Party.

But I know none of them worked with Biden directly or were ever members of his administration.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"As an Aussie that is intrigued by US politics.

I only watch Fox for a start. But have seen CNN and other stations talk absolute tripe. Like they call Illegals. Who murder your innocents. Newcomers. Geeze please. And literally bag Trump for wanting to return these grubs. And wanting to MAGA.

From what I see with my own eyes and this can't be misinformation. Biden is completely fucked and could not run the raffle at my local footy club.

Yet the Dems turn a blind eye to all his obvious short comings. (fuck I laugh when he forgets everything or walks into the bushes or just falls off his bike) they would be the Hunter Biden Laptop and the Emails from Hillary Clinton. The whole world laughs at this.

Then there is the poor people who did nothing wrong who are still in jail after supposedly storming the capital on the 6th January. All of which has been proven to be a travesty. But wait it gets better. Floyd is a hero.

The world has one chance to survive. TRUMP. ".

https://www.aol.com/news/opinion-us-...174055045.html

Inshallah!!

[Tlito]

Who are these people? What took away their sense of reasoning and ability to think for themselves? Did they ever stand a chance?

Sad!

Mate.

What do you watch.

Do you watch a station that shows Biden as a smart man who does not let criminals into YOUR country to murder your children.

Sorry Mate.

Am I watching lies on Fox that show that Biden is the worst president the US has ever had.

Ha.

[Tlito]

Who are these people? What took away their sense of reasoning and ability to think for themselves? Did they ever stand a chance?

Sad!

Sorry Mate.

I just see the truth on Fox.

What are you watching please.

Do you watch a station that shows Biden being honest.

Young.

Coherent.

Not letting really bad people into your country.

Is this all misinformation.

[EihTooms]

Sorry Mate.

I love your reply to my genuine post.

And I am very open minded.

But ha ha.

Are these posts I am seeing of the leader of the free world edited to make him look like a person who is not able to run a chook raffle. Is he really ok. Please answer this. He falls over. Can't put two words together. Reads off cards. Keeps keeps keeps saying I will get into trouble if I answer this. Refuses point blank to debate. Because he is not able. Not able. Not able.

Are all the people coming into the US over the border.(newcomers) good people. How come I see thousands of young men and a few ladies. I saw on FOX where young girls were laid on a bed and fucked all day. As part of Bidens Newcomer Policy. A million children are shipped into your great country and just disappear. Into the sex trafficking industry. Is this all misinformation.

Are all the people locked up. STILL from January 6th. Worse than the other criminals walking freely around the US. Robbing murdering and just doing what ever they like. While you are oversees fucking.

Mate I am an old bloke who sees the truth.

Let me tell you right now.

If Trump does not win the next election the world is fucked.

I was watching Aussie SKY TV one day and the boss of the greens (one of our major political parties) refused to stand in front of the Aussie flag. Not one free to air station ever showed it.(that is when I realised how much our media determines).

The media is turning you into someone who bags Aussies for their opinion.(think about it).

Here is the President that idiot Trump and your Fux News has apparently convinced you can't put two words together:

President Biden's State of the Union Address, 2024

https://youtu.be/cplSUhU2avc?si=0X0xJyjy2eZYRrnH

This is the best that Trump's Party had to offer as a response:

Alabama Republican Senator Katie Britt delivers the GOP response to the SOTU

https://youtu.be/jqMyaE6kmKo?si=LeWlldN9NboXQX86

And you might be interested to know that the best that Trump's Party had to offer was lying through her teeth about her breathlessly scary story about the young girl being gang raped in the USA by drug runners let in by Joe Biden. Surprised? You wouldn't be if you watched some Real News sources every now and then. It turns out the young girl was not raped in the USA, it happened in Mexico. And it didn't happen during Joe Biden's presidency, it happened during Repub GW Bush's so-called presidency and not during Joe Biden's presidency:

Katie Britt Accused of 'Whopping Lie' in SOTU Response

https://www.newsweek.com/katie-britt...sponse-1877591

Also, I don't know who all these news sources are that you claim only refer to the border crossing asylum-seekers that Biden is required by the USA Constitution to investigate for their claim of seeking asylum and can not just be turned away, a process that Trump's decimation of the legal Immigration system has caused that process to take years instead of weeks and that Trump demanded his Repub-controlled House of Representatives to KEEP IT THAT WAY, as "newcomers".

Meanwhile, where is all this out-of-control crime being committed by them supposedly taking place anyway?

Facts still matter: Data shows sanctuary cities keep communities safer.
Feb. 2020

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigrat...unities-safer/

Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They're wrong.
Almost 80 percent of Americans, and 92 percent of Republicans, think crime has gone up. It actually fell in 2023. An expert blames a familiar culprit for the mistaken impression.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...own-rcna129585

'It is historic': US poised to see record drop in yearly homicides despite public concern over crime.
The year is expected to end with over 2,000 fewer murders than in 2022.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/homicide-n...y?id=105556400

Oh, and here are bonus links for when Trump killed the bi-partisan comprehensive Immigration Reform efforts not once but twice in the past 6 years, because he loves Open Borders so much:

Trump rejects immigration compromise.
June, 2018

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/polit...ise/index.html

'Immoral': Some Republicans rebuke efforts to kill immigration deal to help Trump.
The fight over an emerging border and foreign aid bill grew tense Thursday as the GOP split over whether to sink the deal to boost Donald Trump's presidential campaign.
Jan. 2024

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ump-rcna135732

Debates? Biden has not ruled out any debates. Who told you that? You might want to sit down for this; Donald Trump hid in his basement to avoid debating Joe Biden in 2020 and ran for cover from every GOP primary debate even against an opponent he characterized as a "birdbrain" this very year.

What on earth would Trump talk about in a debate aside from rattling off one lie after another? The glorious future of Covfefe with him at the helm again?

[Tlito]

Clearly and inarguably, you have been shovel-fed a load of total crap from whatever it is you think is "news."

"I only watch Fox for a start."

Yep, what you have seen and absorbed is most definitely misinformation.

Biden vs Trump?

Please provide a clip of Biden to rival anything like these from Trump:

Trump's Best Words: 2017 Edition

https://youtu.be/MjZHDcKCA-I?si=bUzHwc6jGrOZqcGL

Trump's Best Words: 2018 Edition

https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA?si=bioLuGDwLWnetGzl

Trump's Best Words: 2019 Edition

https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc?si=NjT5lyHycvBqyDKp

Trump's Best Words: Bracket Edition

https://youtu.be/Ftpc4fwcDfk?si=BHaaq68TWss9e_Q3

Oh, then you must have seen this on Fux, right? Nikki Haley Nikki.Haley Nikki Haley, his Repub nomination rival, never was Speaker of the House. Nope. He apparently means Nancy Pelosi

https://youtu.be/AwWFuPsSHFw?si=a0d-jOPjH8F3uwbq

A recent serious Trump brain malfunction

https://youtu.be/3Cqa1y3U8-0?si=Pn10t0Nt_F_9PH82

Trump repeatedly confuses Obama with Biden and warns of the pending WWII

https://youtu.be/rEP3z5xStE4?si=AOHkllvxnv7heB2C

There are hours of fully covered, no tight editing, blithering incoherence like this from Trump in just the past 7 years while there is virtually none from Biden over the course of decades on the political stage.

So you really think Trump defunding and eliminating the celebrated Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention monitors from those Chinese labs by September 2019, against all expert warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid, allowing the Chinese to keep the earliest emerging cases of Covid a secret, which was exactly what those teams were placed there to Prevent, was the decision of a mentally competent world leader simply trying to Make America Great Again?

Uh. Yeah, you need to stop watching Fux News ASAP. Watching nothing at all would keep you better informed than subjecting your eyes and ears to even 10 minutes of Fux News per week.

Here is a bonus clip for you of those "poor people who did nothing wrong" at the behest of Donald Trump while Donald Trump sat on his rump for more than 3 hours of this doing absolutely nothing to stop it despite the pleas from his staff and family members to do so:

https://youtu.be/Iludfj6Pe7w?si=9UuYNpcSVcPH4Xc2

I assume you and others supposedly from civilized countries got a big laugh out of that, too, huh?

Sorry Mate.

I love your reply to my genuine post.

And I am very open minded.

But ha ha.

Are these posts I am seeing of the leader of the free world edited to make him look like a person who is not able to run a chook raffle. Is he really ok. Please answer this. He falls over. Can't put two words together. Reads off cards. Keeps keeps keeps saying I will get into trouble if I answer this. Refuses point blank to debate. Because he is not able. Not able. Not able.

Are all the people coming into the US over the border.(newcomers) good people. How come I see thousands of young men and a few ladies. I saw on FOX where young girls were laid on a bed and fucked all day. As part of Bidens Newcomer Policy. A million children are shipped into your great country and just disappear. Into the sex trafficking industry. Is this all misinformation.

Are all the people locked up. STILL from January 6th. Worse than the other criminals walking freely around the US. Robbing murdering and just doing what ever they like. While you are oversees fucking.

Mate I am an old bloke who sees the truth.

Let me tell you right now.

If Trump does not win the next election the world is fucked.

I was watching Aussie SKY TV one day and the boss of the greens (one of our major political parties) refused to stand in front of the Aussie flag. Not one free to air station ever showed it.(that is when I realised how much our media determines).

The media is turning you into someone who bags Aussies for their opinion.(think about it).

[Tlito]

Not to worry! You're not alone, as others here, also suffer from the same affliction, when they watch too much FOXY Muse. Easy to understand, as Rupert Murdoch's far-reaching right-wing media empire, is insidious, and in many corners of the world.



As for the rest of your post, I translated it as, someone who OBVIOUSLY, likes being lied to, by right-wing media.

You know, the ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have $787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for lying to Americans and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Who's lies are continuously rebutted, debunked and exposed, without so much as an ounce of journalist integrity, to release a public retraction of misrepresentation or guilt!

Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!

Again...well not to worry, it's not the first time and it want be the last, propaganda right-wing media, like FOXY Muse, will lie to you. After all...it would seem their unspoken motto is, akin to something Mark Twain said:



From one right-wing visionless fmr. US President, to another short sighted boss, in the quasi penultimate words of, Aussie's fmr. PM Scott Morrison, "...but by all means, have the world's biggest battery, have the world's big banana, have the worlds greatest prawn..."

Explain to me though, why is it, right-wing leaders, dictators, fascist, authoritarian, tyrants and despots, "visions of a future", is always looking BACKWARDS?

Aussie's Outlook is a Bright One:

• BTW, I do like however, what your new Labor Gov't, Aussie billionaires, like Mike Cannon-Brookes and Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest are doing, with regards to making inroads into cleaner, renewable energy (like solar, wind, hydrogen to a lesser degree and EV adoption), to provide a better, quicker and more responsive electricity grid stabilization and energy independence, for Australians, who were paying obscenely high prices for electricity, under a Scott Morrison, gov't and the coal pica plant, oligarchs.

Yes it is a tough one. Unfortunately. Who knows what is real.

As far as Aussie politics go. Seriously our leaders just follow America and hope you are right.

I don't know.

Cheers Mate. Fingers crossed That honesty wins out.

[Elvis 2008]

So you really think Trump defunding and eliminating the celebrated Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention monitors from those Chinese labs by September 2019, against all expert warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid, allowing the Chinese to keep the earliest emerging cases of Covid a secret, which was exactly what those teams were placed there to Prevent, was the decision of a mentally competent world leader simply trying to Make America Great Again?

Here is a video showing when all the experts lied to us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMaHKykfdcQ.

1. 15 days to stop the spread of Covid.

2. Not needing masks. Then flip flopping.

3. Vaccines not being mandated.

4. Masks not being mandated.

5. Kids should not be in school.

6. Vaccines will end Covid.

7. Vaccines do not affect menstrual health.

8. No more masks after vaccines.

9. Lying about what gain of function is.

10. Pandemic of the unvaccinated.

And again, this is why it is not worth debating you guys. After all these bullshit lies from the "experts", you still believe that that the issue with the pandemic was Trump not listening to these same "experts" even when it was a worldwide pandemic.

That could be my new Democratic douche slogan: liars saying we should listen to other liars.

[Xpartan]

As an Aussie that is intrigued by US politics.

I only watch Fox for a start.

Who are these people? What took away their sense of reasoning and ability to think for themselves? Did they ever stand a chance?

Sad!

[EihTooms]

Naturally, as a Classic Conservative Repub, Piety Mike Pence is proud of his Trump Administration's record of laying the groundwork for, exacerbating and lying the world into an unprecedented Worldwide Deadly and Economically Disastrous Trump's Pandemic, mass murdering at least a million Americans, wiping out Tens of Millions of Jobs, passing only one economic "stimulus" legislation that added Trillions to the deficit but produced a million fewer jobs with it than without it even before his economic and national security decisions and lies in 2018,2019 and 2020 created Trump's Pandemic and all the historic spikes in Inflation, Border Crossings and Crime Levels that followed, siding with Putin and other authoritarian dictators over America at every turn including the 37+ times Trump went limp dick on Putin to the point of secretly trying to eliminate the sanctions imposed against Russia and publicly rewarding Russia for invading Georgia and Crimea as well as engaging in unprecedented collusion with Team Trump in order to put him in the White House and, of course, keeping America and the USA Military actively and directly engaged in a ground War in the Middle East for every minute of every hour of every day of its term in office along with breaking his Oath of Office to encite a violent, cop-attacking and cop-killing Insurrection against America to overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy.

What Classic Conservative Repub would not be incredibly proud of those accomplishments that, among others, has led a bi-partisan consensus of American Presidential Historians to accurately judge Trump to be The Worst USA President of All Time?

Mike Pence won't endorse Donald Trump in 2024: 'It should come as no surprise'.
March 16, 2024

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mike...y?id=108167592

"Look, I'm incredibly proud of the record of our administration," Pence said. "It was a conservative record that made America more prosperous, more secure and saw conservatives appointed to our courts in a more peaceful world."

Maybe it was that thingy about his boss being fine with and even encouraging those "poor people who did nothing wrong" breaking into the Capitol in a search for Pence in order to publicly hang him by neck until dead for daring not to violate the Constitution at Trump's illegal request.

Sure, sure, he won't ever endorse and vote for Biden because, you know, there is that Historic Economic Recovery and Jobs Creation thing about him that Classic Conservative Repubs hate so much.

Or maybe it is just his constant worry about those Hunter Biden dick pics in his laptop and those disturbing Hillary Clinton emails detailing the color scheme and food selection for her daughter's wedding.

[EihTooms]

Not to worry! You're not alone, as others here, also suffer from the same affliction! As Rupert Murdoch's far-reaching media empire, is insidious, in many corners of the world.



As for the rest of your post, I translated it as, someone who OBVIOUSLY, likes being lied to, by right-wing media.

You know, the ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have $787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for lying to Americans and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Who's lies are continuously rebutted, debunked and exposed, without so much as an ounce of journalist integrity, to release a public retraction of misrepresentation or guilt! Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!

Well not to worry, it's not the first time and it want be the last, propaganda right-wing media, like FOXY Muse, will lie to you. After all...it would seem their unspoken motto is, akin to something Mark Twain said:



From one right-wing visionless fmr. US President, to another short sighted former boss, in Aussie's fmr. PM Scott Morrison, "...but by all means, have the world's biggest battery, have the world's big banana, have the worlds greatest prawn..."

Explain to me though, why is it, right-wing leaders, dictators, fascist, authoritarian, tyrants and despots, "visions of a future", is always looking BACKWARDS?

Aussie's Outlook is a Bright One:

• BTW, I do like however, what your new Labor Gov't, Aussie billionaires, like Mike Cannon-Brookes and Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest are doing, with regards to making inroads into cleaner, renewable energy (like solar, wind, hydrogen to a lesser degree and EV adoption), to provide a better, quicker and more responsive electricity grid stabilization and energy independence, for Australians, who were paying obscenely high prices for electricity, under a Scott Morrison, gov't and the coal pica plant, oligarchs.

Now now. Are you really suggesting that someone who has concluded something as blitheringly nonsensical as that historic economic, national security, health recovery, jobs creation and wage gains, violent crime reduction and democratic alliance NATO expansion President Joe Biden's obvious shortcomings no one should ignore in favor of supporting historic WORST economic and national security results of all time Donald Trump are "Hunter Biden's laptop and Hillary Clinton's emails" has been suckered and bamboozled into a pathetic state of astonishing misinformation by his beloved Fux News?

That is so unfair.

[Spidy]

As an Aussie that is intrigued by US politics.

I only watch Fox for a start. But have seen CNN and other stations talk absolute tripe.

Not to worry! You're not alone, as others here, also suffer from the same affliction, when they watch too much FOXY Muse. Easy to understand, as Rupert Murdoch's far-reaching right-wing media empire, is insidious, and in many corners of the world.

Like they call Illegals. Who murder your innocents. Newcomers. Geeze please. And literally bag Trump ...

The world has one chance to survive.. TRUMP.

As for the rest of your post, I translated it as, someone who OBVIOUSLY, likes being lied to, by right-wing media.

You know, the ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have $787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for lying to Americans and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Who's lies are continuously rebutted, debunked and exposed, without so much as an ounce of journalist integrity, to release a public retraction of misrepresentation or guilt!

Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!

Again...well not to worry, it's not the first time and it want be the last, propaganda right-wing media, like FOXY Muse, will lie to you. After all...it would seem their unspoken motto is, akin to something Mark Twain said:

"A lie, can get half-way around the world, before the truth has a chance to put it's boots on" -- Mark Twain

From one right-wing visionless fmr. US President, to another short sighted boss, in the quasi penultimate words of, Aussie's fmr. PM Scott Morrison, "...but by all means, have the world's biggest battery, have the world's big banana, have the worlds greatest prawn..."

Explain to me though, why is it, right-wing leaders, dictators, fascist, authoritarian, tyrants and despots, "visions of a future", is always looking BACKWARDS?

Aussie's Outlook is a Bright One:

• BTW, I do like however, what your new Labor Gov't, Aussie billionaires, like Mike Cannon-Brookes and Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest are doing, with regards to making inroads into cleaner, renewable energy (like solar, wind, hydrogen to a lesser degree and EV adoption), to provide a better, quicker and more responsive electricity grid stabilization and energy independence, for Australians, who were paying obscenely high prices for electricity, under a Scott Morrison, gov't and the coal pica plant, oligarchs.

[Spidy]

A bipartisan group of House lawmakers is amplifying its calls for Speaker Mike Johnson to stage a vote on legislation linking foreign military aid with domestic border security, framing that combination as the only recipe for getting Ukraine assistance through a deeply divided Congress.

Oh, so that is why. Lie #11 Spidy is you are saying this is just a "border" bill as opposed to a spending bill with tens of billions on Ukrainian and Israeli aid.

Yeah not my "A bipartisan group..." quote, Elvis 2008! Try again?

[Paulie97]

The world has one chance to survive.. TRUMP.

Though living down under you're fully indoctrinated. But you have another step to take, and that's to get a pair of these shoes so you can signal to all in your part of the world what you stand for. Now the gold ones are sold out for now, but if you scroll down you'll see other models. You might also want to go for a bottle of the Victory 47 cologne, a bit steep at $99 but the screw on cap is a bust of Trump so don't complain too much.

https://gettrumpsneakers.com/

[EihTooms]

As an Aussie that is intrigued by US politics.

I only watch Fox for a start. But have seen CNN and other stations talk absolute tripe. Like they call Illegals. Who murder your innocents. Newcomers. Geeze please. And literally bag Trump for wanting to return these grubs. And wanting to MAGA.

From what I see with my own eyes and this can't be misinformation. Biden is completely fucked and could not run the raffle at my local footy club..

Clearly and inarguably, you have been shovel-fed a load of total crap from whatever it is you think is "news."

"I only watch Fox for a start."

Yep, what you have seen and absorbed is most definitely misinformation.

Biden vs Trump?

Please provide a clip of Biden to rival anything like these from Trump:

Trump's Best Words: 2017 Edition

https://youtu.be/MjZHDcKCA-I?si=bUzHwc6jGrOZqcGL

Trump's Best Words: 2018 Edition

https://youtu.be/MfOQBY5BrUA?si=bioLuGDwLWnetGzl

Trump's Best Words: 2019 Edition

https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc?si=NjT5lyHycvBqyDKp

Trump's Best Words: Bracket Edition

https://youtu.be/Ftpc4fwcDfk?si=BHaaq68TWss9e_Q3

Oh, then you must have seen this on Fux, right? Nikki Haley Nikki.Haley Nikki Haley, his Repub nomination rival, never was Speaker of the House. Nope. He apparently means Nancy Pelosi

https://youtu.be/AwWFuPsSHFw?si=a0d-jOPjH8F3uwbq

A recent serious Trump brain malfunction

https://youtu.be/3Cqa1y3U8-0?si=Pn10t0Nt_F_9PH82

Trump repeatedly confuses Obama with Biden and warns of the pending WWII

https://youtu.be/rEP3z5xStE4?si=AOHkllvxnv7heB2C

There are hours of fully covered, no tight editing, blithering incoherence like this from Trump in just the past 7 years while there is virtually none from Biden over the course of decades on the political stage.

So you really think Trump defunding and eliminating the celebrated Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention monitors from those Chinese labs by September 2019, against all expert warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid, allowing the Chinese to keep the earliest emerging cases of Covid a secret, which was exactly what those teams were placed there to Prevent, was the decision of a mentally competent world leader simply trying to Make America Great Again?

Uh. Yeah, you need to stop watching Fux News ASAP. Watching nothing at all would keep you better informed than subjecting your eyes and ears to even 10 minutes of Fux News per week.

Here is a bonus clip for you of those "poor people who did nothing wrong" at the behest of Donald Trump while Donald Trump sat on his rump for more than 3 hours of this doing absolutely nothing to stop it despite the pleas from his staff and family members to do so:

https://youtu.be/Iludfj6Pe7w?si=9UuYNpcSVcPH4Xc2

I assume you and others supposedly from civilized countries got a big laugh out of that, too, huh?