American Politics

[EihTooms]

The Radical Left is the same as Radical Right

You are fooling yourself with the sophistry that Fascism is strictly a right-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. National Socialism, and the term can not be used to describe a left-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. Communism. But the extreme Left, Marxism, is essentially the same thing as the extreme right, Fascism. Under both systems there is no individual freedom and you do as your are told or it is prison or death. So tell me what the functional difference between Hitler (responsible for 11 mil dead) and Mao (responsible for 40 to 80 mil dead) was. Hitler started more wars and had a thing for the Jews, but Mao killed and enslaved more people. Or tell me the difference between Mussolini and Pol Pot or Franco and Maduro, or Franco and the Castro brothers. The only functional difference I see is that Marxists are usually better organized than Fascists.

There is no Dem counterpart to the Repubs' decades long and current efforts to suppress, inhibit, reduce and prevent voting, selectively toss out or count votes, attempting by any means necessary including deadly violence to overturn free and fair elections.

And we're not even talking about a "Radical" anything. That is the goal of Mainstream Repubs. Get censured and culture cancelled by almost unanimous congressional Repub vote for daring to suggest otherwise.

This isn't about Hitler vs Mao, Mussolini vs Pol Pot or any of that. It's about Trump / Repubs vs Biden / Dems. And all the future Repub vs Dem elections.

The ol' Bothsiderism on that point won't work with anyone who isn't a Trump / Repub cult member.

[PVMonger]

Yes I went to school from kindergarten to 12. My schools had the highest standards in San Diego county. My parents didn't have to pay for my education. I went to college on an academic scholarship. I paid my way through school by working while I was attending and did not have any student loans. Unlike you I have a degree and a masters and I am compensated very well at my job at a top USA financial company. With your great school in San Diego did you get an academic scholarship? Did you make a 6 figure salary coming out of college? I wouldn't trade my life with you or anybody.

And yet, with your Master's Degree and your well-compensated-more-than-six-figure job at a top financial company, you still would recommend that a client should take FUX "News" (with 3 MM viewers) free commercial placement over CBS News' same offer (with 5 MM viewers) because 3 million is greater than 5 million?

Somebody is ripping off the company for which you work and I think it is you. Anybody who believes that 3 million is greater than 5 million isn't worthy of a 3rd grade graduation certificate, much less a Masters Degree. And a 6-figure salary? ROFL.

[EihTooms]

I don't agree.

Trump is shitloads slimier than Pence.

Of course, he is. That's why Trump was at the top of the Repub Party ticket and Pence was next in line. Trump would never have chosen him as his VP if he wasn't adept at conning Repub suckers with a carefully chosen word or two.

[PVMonger]

You are fooling yourself with the sophistry that Fascism is strictly a right-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. National Socialism, and the term can not be used to describe a left-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. Communism. But the extreme Left, Marxism, is essentially the same thing as the extreme right, Fascism. Under both systems there is no individual freedom and you do as your are told or it is prison or death. So tell me what the functional difference between Hitler (responsible for 11 mil dead) and Mao (responsible for 40 to 80 mil dead) was. Hitler started more wars and had a thing for the Jews, but Mao killed and enslaved more people. Or tell me the difference between Mussolini and Pol Pot or Franco and Maduro, or Franco and the Castro brothers. The only functional difference I see is that Marxists are usually better organized than Fascists.

Not only don't you know what fascism is, you evidently don't know what communism is either. I suspect that your fellow wingers don't know either. Like your other wingers, I'd have better luck getting my dog to understand the differences than getting any winger to understand the differences.

Though ignorant rightwingnuts claim that communism and fascism are two sides of the same coin, they are different in their ideology and other aspects. Communism is a socio economic system that stands for a class-less, state-less and an egalitarian society. Fascism is an ideology that tries to bring together radical and authoritarian nationalism. You know, like Make America Great Again. I realize that you don't know what nationalism is either but I can only try to educate you on one topic at a time.

Fascism became popular between 1919 and 1945 and originally referred to the Fascists under Benito Mussolini. Communism became popular after the Bolshevik Revolution of Russia in 1917. The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels is considered to be the bible of communism. The authoritative document of Fascism is "The Doctrine of Fascism" which was written by Mussolini. You should read it sometime. It isn't very long and doesn't contain many bigly words. You'd find that it almost perfectly describes the rightwingnut philosophy, especially when it comes to religion.

Communism stands for a state-less society where all are equal. No one is rich or poor in a communist system (in theory). In practice, though, that falls apart. In Communism, it is the community that holds the production and the major resources. On the other hand, Fascism pertains to state and it considers state on top of everything. In fascism the state is all embracing. For the fascists, no human values exist outside the state. Look at what is currently happening when someone criticizes the one-term, twice-impeached former guy. They get cancelled. Fascism believes that everything is within the State and nothing is above the State or outside the State or against the State. Fascism believes in nationalism (includes economic nationalism), corporatism (includes economic planning), militarism and totalitarianism (dictatorship and social interventionism), again just like MAGA did. The only difference between fascist Trumpism and traditional fascism is that the OTTIFG didn't like war. But he sure did like the trappings of it like military parades.

The Communists think globally where as the Fascists think only in a national level.

In communism, the state is the custodian of everything and it is the state that owns everything. On the other hand, in Fascism, the state has control over everything. In simple words, Communism means state ownership and fascism means state control.

Fascism is derived from Italian "fascio" meaning bundle. Actually, "fascio" is close to "fiasco" which is what we had under the OTTIFG. Communism comes from French "communisme", meaning common.

So no, communism and fascism aren't two sides of the same coin. They are vastly different and only an idiot would consider them similar. And, no, you don't love "freedom". What you love is the freedom to own and demean another person and the freedom to hate someone who isn't white and straight and male. And every supporter of the OTTIFG that I know is exactly like you.

[Canada]

I have tried to explain numerous times. The fact the you are too thick-skulled to understand isn't my problem. But, then again, I'd have better luck trying to explain it to my dog. He isn't as thick-skulled. By a huge margin.

Can you understand when Biden creates a shortage of anything the price goes up?

Can you understand when USA production goes down that OPEC is going to take advantage of us.

It does not matter what commodity if there is a shortage prices go up.

That is why we have to drill our way out of this.

[Canada]

I don't understand why you would have trouble answering your own question. But I will give it a go.

TrumpShit performed the worst management of the United States in a single year of presidency ever in the final year of his single (twice impeached) term.

He thoroughly and completely mismanaged the nations' response to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Which turned into a pandemic in TrumpShit's final year, eliminating, I think, more than six million jobs.

After one year in office, Joe Biden had the greatest single year of job growth recorded in recent or all years.

But he didn't get back all the millions of jobs TrumpShit killed in 2020.

Simple answer really.

But you couldn't figure it out Canada?

I guess you don't understand anything. The pandemic killed 6 million jobs in USA and killed jobs in every country. It did not matter if it was a Republicans President or a doctor in a communist country. Every country lost jobs. Not because of their leader but because the Chinese pandemic killed every country in the world economy. Because 2/3 of the people went to work world wide it was not because of their leader. Biden has done nothing and two thirds of the people returned to their jobs. Simple.

[ScatManDoo]

During the January 6th insurrection rioting there were 140 police officer injured.

Which specific BLM protest had more than a dozen officers injured?

I think there was no BLM protest even come close.

In all the BLM protests of years 2020 and 2021 combined, how many police officers were injured?

Please show proof from a real news site that shows 140 officers hurt. Or I will just assume you made this up like the rest if your fabricated posts.

Are you serious Canada?

Are the sources you rely on for genuine news so narrow that you missed the Police Unions statements that were made in late January 2021?

The Police unions reported that 81 Capital Police Officers were assaulted and injured during the siege of the Capital. According to the Police Officer's Union an additional 65 District of Columbia Police Officers were also injured in the rioting that occurred outside and inside our Capital on January 6th. Other LE agencies also experienced and reported some injuries to their officers.

In Mainstream media I recall this being verified and being one of the most covered news stories in early February 2021. My guess is this was verified and covered by thousands of traditional news agencies.

Yet it is a surprise to you Canada?

What did you do Canada during the month of February 2021 other than read a short stack of Archies Comics?

[ScatManDoo]

Pre Trump's Pandemic? Why count anything regarding Trump "Pre Trump's Pandemic"? His Pandemic was the result of economic decisions made by him.

Why did Trump's economy lag Obama-Biden's economy by millions upon millions of jobs?

Why did Bush2's economy lag Clintons economy by millions upon millions of jobs?

Why did Trump's, Bush2's and Bush1's combined economies lag Biden's economy by millions upon millions of job?

Why did Hoover's, Eisenhower's, Nixon / Ford's, Reagan's, Bush1's, Bush2's and Trump's combined economies lag FDR's, Truman's, JFK / LBJ's, Carter's, Clinton's, Obama's and Biden's combined economies by millions upon millions upon millions of jobs?

I think it is because republican administrations perform much poorer economically than democratic administrations.

But republican politicians have their supporters (like those that post here) suckered into believing untruths on this issue.

[ScatManDoo]

Please explain why less people are working today in Biden economy than in Trump pre pandemic economy.

I don't understand why you would have trouble answering your own question. But I will give it a go.

TrumpShit performed the worst management of the United States in a single year of presidency ever in the final year of his single (twice impeached) term.

He thoroughly and completely mismanaged the nations' response to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Which turned into a pandemic in TrumpShit's final year, eliminating, I think, more than six million jobs.

After one year in office, Joe Biden had the greatest single year of job growth recorded in recent or all years.

But he didn't get back all the millions of jobs TrumpShit killed in 2020.

Simple answer really.

But you couldn't figure it out Canada?

[ScatManDoo]

Yes I went to school from kindergarten to 12. My schools had the highest standards in San Diego county. My parents didn't have to pay for my education. I went to college on an academic scholarship. I paid my way through school by working while I was attending and did not have any student loans. Unlike you I have a degree and a masters and I am compensated very well at my job at a top USA financial company. With your great school in San Diego did you get an academic scholarship? Did you make a 6 figure salary coming out of college? I wouldn't trade my life with you or anybody.

For someone with adequate reading comprehension, as you claim to have.

Where the fuck did I write that I went to school in San Diego?

Show me where someone didn't waste tuition money on you!

[ScatManDoo]

Don't fall for it. Naturally, pro Repub Mainstream Media is gushing all over the place about how wonderful Pence "defied Trump", "throwing Trump under the bus" and all that crap.

Pence is just another spineless, America-hating, Trump cultist who would have made every disastrous decision Trump made had he been president.

I don't agree.

Trump is shitloads slimier than Pence.

[Axel Heyst]

And every time you post, you show that you have absolutely no idea whatsoever what the term "fascist" means.

You are fooling yourself with the sophistry that Fascism is strictly a right-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. National Socialism, and the term can not be used to describe a left-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. Communism. But the extreme Left, Marxism, is essentially the same thing as the extreme right, Fascism. Under both systems there is no individual freedom and you do as your are told or it is prison or death. So tell me what the functional difference between Hitler (responsible for 11 mil dead) and Mao (responsible for 40 to 80 mil dead) was. Hitler started more wars and had a thing for the Jews, but Mao killed and enslaved more people. Or tell me the difference between Mussolini and Pol Pot or Franco and Maduro, or Franco and the Castro brothers. The only functional difference I see is that Marxists are usually better organized than Fascists.

The fundamental difference between you and me is I love freedom and hate all forms of totalitarian rule while you only hate right wing totalitarian regimes. In fact, you are so Marxist radical (Fascist) that you even hate moderate or right of center democratic forms of government that support free speech and the right to own property. You hate any form of government that is not avowedly socialist and / or Marxist. And you call anyone who disagrees with the Woke Party dogma a Fascist and Racist. Ha! Like I said earlier, you are a bad joke because you are the Racist, Fascist among us.

Let's Go Brandon!

[ScatManDoo]

One single question:

Do you agree or disagree with giving blanket pardons to all +700 criminally charged defendants from the January 6th insurrection?

I know which way over 90% of you would vote.

Just sayin.

[EihTooms]

Doing a rough addition and subtraction by sight, it turns out just the Clinton and Obama economies produced as many if not more USA jobs than the combined economies of all 9 Repub presidents of the past 100 years!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs...idential_terms

That's right, just 2 Dems beat all 9 Repubs in a century of presidential administrations.

A reminder; the Baby Boom generation of working age Americans peaked during the course of two of those Repub administrations, starting at the beginning of Reagan's presidency, they began retiring at a rate of 10,000 per day starting at the beginning of the Obama administration and are continuing to retire in huge numbers today.

Yet, Biden's economy alone has already in its first year produced about 20% of the total number jobs of all the Repub presidents combined since 1922. At that rate he could easily surpass those of all the Repub presidents combined by the end of the first year of his second term!

[ScatManDoo]

The demand to subpoena Trump faces an uphill battle but is broadening the debate about the former president's role at the center of the Jan. 6 attack on Congress.

Trump could not be reached for comment."

The typical right-wingnut that often posts in this thread might give the following reply to your post:

I'm sure president Trump would be wiling to give voluntary testimony at Dustin Thompson's trial next month.

But he probably will save some time by simply pardoning him right after the reelection in 2024.