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02-05-22 17:23 #6329
Posts: 1604Anybody want to bet how this will turn out?
Capitol Riot Defendant Seeks Subpoena For Trump, Says He 'Directed' Him To Storm Capitol
"A defendant in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the USA Capitol has filed a court brief calling for Donald Trump to be subpoenaed to testify because the accused claims the former president "directed" him and others to storm the Capitol as part of a deceptive plot to overturn the 2020 presidential election.
"It will be established at trial that Mr. Trump and his conspirators engaged in a concerted effort to deceive the public, including Defendant, into believing that American democracy was at stake if Congress was permitted to certify the election," according to the court filing Friday on behalf of Ohio resident Dustin Thompson.
"Defendant submits that the testimony of Mr. Trump and his conspirators will establish that they were determined, by any means necessary, to prevent Congress from fulfilling its constitutional mandate to certify the election results," states the filing in the USA District Court for the District of Columbia.
"In order to accomplish that goal, the conspirators Defendant now seeks to subpoena engaged in a concerted effort to organize, encourage, and direct rally participants to storm the Capitol, enter the grounds, 'fight like hell,' and 'engage in trial by combat," the brief added.
It was all part of a "carefully crafted plot" to call into question the integrity of the 2020 presidential election, according to the filing.
Thompson will also seek to subpoena other "conspirators," including Trump's former personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, onetime White House strategist Steve Bannon, "coup memo" right-wing lawyer John Eastman and Donald Trump Jr.
Thompson has been charged with a number of offenses in the storming of the Capitol, including obstruction of an official proceeding, theft of government property, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, and disorderly conduct in the Capitol.
In an interview with The Columbus Dispatch shortly after initial charges were filed against Thompson, his attorney, Samuel Shamansky, said his client and others who breached the Capitol "got brainwashed to the point they felt duty bound to follow the encouragement of their commander in chief."
The demand to subpoena Trump faces an uphill battle but is broadening the debate about the former president's role at the center of the Jan. 6 attack on Congress.
Trump could not be reached for comment."
https://news.yahoo.com/capitol-riot-...044227060.html
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02-05-22 16:14 #6328
Posts: 5427Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]
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02-05-22 15:46 #6327
Posts: 5427Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
Pence is just another spineless, America-hating, Trump cultist who would have made every disastrous decision Trump made had he been president.
Pence only said he didn't have the "right" to overturn the election on January 6. That word "right" is the same one conman Trump was using for it only because it sounds as though the cop killing mob he sent to overthrow American democracy was doing something honorable.
And notice Pence didn't say shit about this until someone pointed out to those loons that if their premise was legitimate, Kamala Harris would have the "right" to overturn any election outcome she didn't like in 2024.
No, what Trump, Pence and virtually every other Repub really means is Pence had the "power" to overturn the election. Had it not followed protocal that day, there is a very real possibility it would have been left to a majority of Repub legislators and in the end been settled by a Repub majority SCOTUS. Three guesses how that would have turned out, and the first two don't count.
Why Pence didn't go along with that Repub plan on that day is anybody's guess. But sure as hell Pence's "god" had nothing to do with it.
The Dems in Congress are busy closing that loophole now. Which might be another reason Pence is finally coming out on the "righteous" side of this since no VP in the future will have that one American democracy-hating shot at it anymore anyway.
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02-05-22 14:44 #6326
Posts: 1068Lies again from you
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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02-05-22 14:37 #6325
Posts: 1604And
Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]
ROFL.
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02-05-22 14:36 #6324
Posts: 1068Trump Economy
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Please explain why less people are working today in Biden economy than in Trump pre pandemic economy.
Please explain why there wasn't inflation under Trump booming economy and Biden economy.
Please explain why Biden cancelled pipelines and cut oil production with his booming economy.
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02-05-22 04:13 #6323
Posts: 711Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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02-05-22 03:46 #6322
Posts: 2344Mike Pence: he did what he knew Jesus would have done
Some times you need an inflexible religious nut at the most unexpected moments in human history.
I am sure that on or around January 6th, that man asked himself: 'What would Jesus do here?
He showed that he was taught correctly.
I doubt that I am the first person to notice or write this.
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02-05-22 03:37 #6321
Posts: 5427Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Yes, the same Party that voted unanimously in the House to Defund The Police.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/republ...ical-discourse
So much for their now utterly ridiculous phony outrage over shoplifting small items no longer being criminally prosecuted in some cities and states with more pressing matters to address.
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02-05-22 03:22 #6320
Posts: 5427Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
There was no better and more effective way to recover the USA economy from Trump's Great Crash, Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction than to do what Biden and his administration did about it with near zero help from Repubs.
The worldwide Supply-Chain destruction thanks more to Trump's unsurpassed contribution to laying the groundwork for, removing all defences against and promoting the creation of Trump's Pandemic and the historic worldwide economic paralysis that resulted from it was not going to be resolved by waiting into infinity for "brave free market entrepreneurs" to step up to the plate first. That never, never happens.
We needed to put spending money and lots of it into the pockets of consumers who by then needed and wanted to buy a shitload of things they'd done without for almost 2 years.
Then and only then will those "brave free marketers" step up to do whatever it takes to get Supply-Chains funded, staffed, moving and delivering.
Money in pockets first, sellers stepping up to sell after. That's how it works in the real world. Not the other way around. Not ever.
The fact that there is a temporary surge in inflation that isn't even as bad as occurred under Repubs in our adult lifetimes is a minor inconvenience by comparison, easily dealt with by the Fed whenever they feel the time is right.
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02-05-22 02:41 #6319
Posts: 1604Same ole', same ole'
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
High gas prices are because of OPEC production, US refinery shutdown and more people traveling. I guess you've never heard of "supply-and-demand". High grocery bills are from the same thing. Do you realize that ranchers are selling beef at a lower price per steer than they were last year? Who is making the money because it sure isn't the ranchers. Could it be the wholesalers or slaughterhouses? Same with farmers.
But I'll answer my own question. You won't come up with more material because it is too hard to think for yourself. It is just easier to parrot what Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson.
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02-04-22 23:40 #6318
Posts: 1604Rofl
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
I also have info from the Police Union but I guarantee that he won't accept that either. https://www.police1.com/officer-safe...5xcpt1sIELYvJ/.
Oh, wait. I also have a report from FUX "News" that says the same thing. But something tells me that he won't accept that either due to some technicality. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cap...rcent-one-year.
Yep, a "real news site" to this fascist is one that says that nobody was hurt and that the attempted coup was just a bunch of antifa clowns dressed up as supporters of the OTTIFD who were tourists and were assisted by police.
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02-04-22 23:27 #6317
Posts: 1604Nope
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
America is in danger of becoming a non-white majority and you hate it. You can yell and scream and bloviate but, deep down, you fascists want to go back to when it was OK to own another human being, when black people "knew their place" and when only white, male property owners could vote.
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02-04-22 23:08 #6316
Posts: 428Pandemic economy
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Biden did nothing and he is trying to take credit for people returning to their old jobs after they were laid off in mostly democratic states due to the closure of business. Biden is trying to take credit for economy because businesses are allowed to reopen now. With no president in the USA these jobs still would have come back and the economy would have gotten better. Biden did nothing and the businesses are returning to normal. But Biden policies are escalating inflation. Anytime the economy starts doing better the leaders need to control inflation. Biden as usual did nothing and denies inflation is a problem.
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02-04-22 23:00 #6315
Posts: 1947Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]