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02-07-22 15:54 #6368
Posts: 1604Gee, I wonder why
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Second, you don't specify which years were your "worst economic periods" or "best economic periods". I guess the good news is that you aren't claiming that 3 million is greater than 5 million.
But maybe you'll say that mortgage rates were lower under Reagan than they are today.
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02-07-22 13:39 #6367
Posts: 2344Maricopa County Arizona was Canada's original title for this rambling post:
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
What blather to you spew now after so many recounts found no evidence of democrats stealing elections?
Look to the republicans that used to darken the White House's doors.
Where there is evidence of election stealing.
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02-07-22 05:29 #6366
Posts: 2344I promised to propose a bet on this Sunday
The media (both left-slanted and right-slanted) in recent articles has been predicting a large red wave result for the mid-term elections in 2022.
With the republican party acting Super-Trump-Stupid, I'm not so sure the 2022 elections will turn out bad for the democrats.
There has been betting talk in this thread about placing wagers whether Donald Trump gets jailtime, or escapes it.
I am not interested in a bet that may not be settled for years.
Beside, my gut tells me that TrumpShit can eventually get convicted, only to escape extradition to Argentina, or Russia, or probably somewhere sunnier.
The loser planned a nearly successful coup in less than 60 days.
As a long-time criminal, I'm sure he's been planning his clean get away for a much longer time.
Back to the terms of the proposed bet:
I think the democrats will most likely pick up one or two Senate seats in the 2022 midterms.
But that's a very risky bet, and not the one I want to make.
Right now the Democrats have 48 Senate seats. The Democrats currently caucus with Independent Angus King and Social-Democrat Bernie Sanders.
That gives them 50 Senate votes, and a controlling like majority in the Senate with Vice President Kamala Harris.
I am willing to bet that in the November 2022 midterms the Democrats maintain majority control of the Senate.
I bet the Democrats don't lose a seat and that republicans won't get more than 50 Senate seats resulting from the 2022 midterms.
I can receive or send payment on either Zelle or Venmo.
I don't think an intermediary needs to hold our stakes.
For even odds I am willing to bet $500, and if someone wants only part of the action, that will work.
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02-07-22 04:38 #6365
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
And even though most republicans only fuck up the economy and make things worse.
Calvin Coolidge was the only republican in the twentieth century that had verifiable great numbers for his term's results (Better even than Clinton and Obama, but just not as good as Biden's first year).
Let's hope that the 2024 Presidential election comes down to a choice between Pence and Biden.
With expectations that either one of them might turn out good economic times.
OK.
My guess is only one of them is going to lock-up in jail all the song writers that write with lyrics containing dirty words.
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02-07-22 04:19 #6364
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Funny how my view matches up with the facts, Xpartan, and yours does not. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...es-since-1960/.
But we will soon found out who is right.
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02-07-22 03:32 #6363
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
See, Republican Party economic policies are all about catering to the election donor class in the top income brackets at the expense of everyone else in the country. That has been the agenda of that Party since the Industrial Revolution. And anyone who knows anything about those falsely proclaimed "job creators", the very dead last thing any of them want to do is hire more employees to help make them wealthier. They will only do it kicking and screaming in protest.
Consequently, the Republican Party economic philosophy and agenda is NOT to expand the economy in a way that creates more rather than far, far less jobs than their Democratic Party counterparts.
This Supply-Side / Trickle-Down con job was not really Reagan's idea, although he is the one every subsequent Republican president proudly proclaims to be following. No, Reagan was using Republican Calvin Coolidge as his model. Yep, "Silent Cal", exactly 100 years ago. His is the model for all Republicans ever since for how to deal with the USA economy and Republican Hoover was their model for when their Coolidge format goes horribly wrong for the economy and jobs, as it always does, for how to do everything possible to make it worse.
See, VP Coolidge unexpectedly took over from Republican Harding, which was then the most corrupt presidential administration of all time. Let's say Coolidge was the "Pence" of his day. Possibly just a gullible, useful idiot, possibly as corrupt as the man who appointed him VP, who knows. Who cares. The thing is he wasn't as corrupt as his now dead boss, but he had no idea what the fuck to do about the economy or anything else.
So what did he do? He just cut taxes for the top income margins and corporations and went fishing. For Reagan it was do that same thing and go riding his ponies. For Bush2 it was do that and go "clearin' brush down to the ranch. " For Trump it was do that and take huge numbers of people to his failed golf resorts at taxpayers' expense.
They all wanted the same "look" and Mainstream Media support Coolidge got for essentially doing nothing, certainly nothing good for the underlying USA economy. Coolidge put a lot of hot windfall money into the hands of already wealthy people who for the next 3-4 years threw it at the stock market. The "Roaring 20's" only roared for the top elite. And Mainstream Media loved it. All those old films of guys in tuxedos and girls in flapper dresses dancing and popping champagne corks? Lovely. But that was definitely not what American farmers and the millions more living in rural America were doing at the time. No sirree.
So when all the crap the elite were throwing their hot windfall Coolidge money at in the stock market was finally revealed not to be supported in the least by a solid real underlying economy, we had the Great Repub Crash and Depression.
But Coolidge had just left office by then, dodging all the pain from his classic and now template model Do Nothing Republican Party economic philosophy and agenda. The Dream Scenario for every Repub president ever since.
When somebody like Clinton, Obama and now Biden comes along and caters to the middle and lower income brackets, to put money in their pockets first and then force the corporations and business to do what they hate to do and will only do kicking and screaming in protest, which is to hire more employees to handle the buying from massive numbers of new customers, yep, often triggering a bit of temporary inflation along the way, they are always characterized as great evils by the dumb suckers who might not even know which side they are really serving in all this.
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02-07-22 01:59 #6362
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]
HaHaHa, jajaja.
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02-07-22 00:35 #6361
Posts: 1957Elvis and Hannity
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
When the economy is bad gas prices trend down.
When the economy is good gas trends up.
When there is peace gas trends down.
When there are tensions gas trends up.
Of course, the complete picture would be more complex and intricate, but what part of it's economy stupid do you not understand?
Here is a moron who Elvis is trying to emulate.
Hannity gets humiliated by his OWN guest on his OWN show.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1482184984261582849
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02-06-22 19:16 #6360
Posts: 428Finally Biden is number 1 in something
Finally Biden can take credit for something in his first year of his presidency. Biden had more police killed in line of duty than any other president in history. It will probably be a campaign slogan for him in 2024.
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02-06-22 18:16 #6359
Posts: 1604Blindness
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
The analyst's position is echoed by Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneber...h=747e2363ddfc And by the Business Standard https://www.business-standard.com/ar...2500016_1.html.
But, hey, they're only experts and our resident fascists know everything. Just ask them.
And if you think that the OTTIFG was loved by the oil and gas industry, read the following from a Texas publication. The title of the article is Can Biden Really Be Any Worse for the Oil Patch Than Trump? https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-po...-drilling-ban/.
So, in essence, this is more bloviation by our resident, I-am-a-legend-in-my-own-mind fascists.
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02-06-22 17:16 #6358
Posts: 1068You were right on your first post
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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02-06-22 17:06 #6357
Posts: 2344Canadian Ignorance as deep as the winter snow in Anchorage
Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
Are the sources you rely on for genuine news so narrow that you missed the Police Unions statements that were made in late January 2021?
The Police unions reported that 81 Capital Police Officers were assaulted and injured during the siege of the Capital. According to the Police Officer's Union an additional 65 District of Columbia Police Officers were also injured in the rioting that occurred outside and inside our Capital on January 6th. Other LE agencies also experienced and reported some injuries to their officers.
In Mainstream media I recall this being verified and being one of the most covered news stories in early February 2921. My guess is this was verified and covered by thousands of traditional news agencies.
Yet it is a surprise to you Canada?
What did you do Canada during the month of February 2021 other than read a short stack of Archies Comics?
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02-06-22 15:37 #6356
Posts: 715Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
I don't know what radical right wing terrorist activity in 2022 you are referring to, but yeah, Antifa and BLM have been relatively quiet since they did their job in getting Biden elected in 2020. BTW, Black Lives Matter has halted their online fundraising after after attorneys general in California and Washington state demanded the group submit delinquent financial disclosures for 2020.
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02-06-22 15:24 #6355
Posts: 1604Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
The only thing that needs drilling is your head to relieve the pressure. But, since there isn't anything there, oil people would call it a "dry hole".
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02-06-22 07:54 #6354
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
There is no doubt that this president hates oil and gas. Everyone knows it. He wants the industry gone and because of that, the banks will not lend and the oil companies will not go back to hiring like they were. Canada, you are totally right, and PV monger is totally wrong. Biden is such an ass he even says climate change will promote jobs.
There is a lot of political exaggeration out there, but if Trump were still president, oil and gasoline would be half the price of what it is now. Period. The good thing about this is energy driven inflation leads to higher interest rates, and that is going to be what does in Biden. All these Dems are posting these economic numbers are ignoring how much the Fed increased its balance sheet and how much more the government went into debt. Oil production increased under Obama, and he knew the economics. He talked climate change but did not demonize oil companies. We have plenty of oil, and if we had a president that did not demonize the industry, we would be so much better off.
This is the worst energy policy since Nixon and Carter, and those polices led to a horrific economic mess. Biden's Covid policies are really annoying, but his energy policies are beyond stupid and they are going to do him in.