American Politics

[Xpartan]

Great real news for a change!

Yes, as I have always said, as long as it is legal and promotes more congressional seats and presidential victories for the one Party that has produced and presided over every major economic recovery, expansion, market gains and historic jobs creation and none of the historic Crashes and Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years, the Democratic Party, rather than promoting more of those for the one Party that has produced and presided over the exact opposite results, the Republican Party, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I'm against it.

Honestly, I'm not sure what makes you happy about this.

Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".

Nah, not with you on this one.

On an unrelated note, it seems Monsieur de Sade has been on the roll lately quoting the "fake news" NYT left and right. Good for him.

"Trump will never go to jail".

That's a bold prediction. Let's consider a few of your safety nets in making that bold prediction:

Trump is a lifelong professional criminal who just recently bribed his former Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, to suddenly change his mind about cooperating with the 1/6 Investigation to the tune of $1 Million of other people's money given to his non-profit. That's something like 100 times more than Trump ever donated to other non-profits.

Trump can and will try to bribe witnesses, judges, jurors, everybody, with other people's money. It only takes one.

Trump can use other people's money to delay his trials and sentencing well beyond his expected lifespan.

Any one of the 74 million or rather 37 million loons who followed his instructions to vote for him twice in 2020 could weasel his or her way onto the jury. If so, game over.

Trump would be embraced with open arms in Russia, China, North Korea, with the Taliban and any number of America's adversaries he kissed ass for to gain sanctuary from prosecution or sentencing.

Now, if the bet is whether or not Trump committed serious crimes regardless whether or not he defies all historical precedent and spends time behind bars, Trump has already admitted to that. You could simply start with his admission that he tore up his written documents during his so-called presidency. You know, the ones his staff had to scotch tape together, some of which are now being reviewed by the 1/6 Commission?

Yeah, that violated The Presidential Records Act, which is a Federal Crime, a Felony.

This is a very concise summation of the reasons why Trump will probably not spend a day behind the bars in our corrupt, corrupt country. Unfortunately, you're right, it's pretty safe on the part of Canada to make that bet (aside from the fact it would be illegal and unenforceable anyway). In fact, Canada et al have never even tried to claim Trump's innocence; they're just cynically reveling in the fact that it would be an almost impossible task to bring him to justice.

[PVMonger]

Simple. You go on the highest rated network with the highest audience. Fox has more viewers than any other news network so more customers. Hence the Super Bowls ads are more expensive regardless of which network broadcasts it as the audience is huge.

CBS evening news gets about 5 MM viewers per night in Q4 2021. "The CBS Evening News with Norah O'Donnell averaged 5.08 million total viewers and 881,000 adults 25-54 in Q4. " https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/q4-2...tition/496936/.

In comparison. FUX "News" Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson's show averaged about 3 million viewers. "Fox News Channel had the five most-watched shows in all of cable news for the week ending August 1, with Tucker Carlson Tonight again being the top-rated show overall, with an average total audience of 2. 9 million viewers. " https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoy...h=ad5eef94cd6e.

So, the FUX "News" guy had 3 million viewers and CBS News had 5 million viewers, yet the Cali guy says "Fox has more viewers than any other news network".

Only in fascist-land is 3 million higher than 5 million.

[PVMonger]

Applying your masters in finance, if your best friend was manufacturing a consumer product and was offered a free one-time-only commercial spot on the highest rated Fox News Channel program, either The Five or Tucker Carlson or on the lowest rated regular network news hour, CBS Evening News, which offer would you advise him to snap up in a heartbeat?

I wonder, too, how he'll answer this post. I think I know what he'll say because he's repeated his illogical "logic" ad infinitum. But for now, I'll just wait and see.

[Cali Guy]

Applying your masters in finance, if your best friend was manufacturing a consumer product and was offered a free one-time-only commercial spot on the highest rated Fox News Channel program, either The Five or Tucker Carlson or on the lowest rated regular network news hour, CBS Evening News, which offer would you advise him to snap up in a heartbeat?

Simple. You go on the highest rated network with the highest audience. Fox has more viewers than any other news network so more customers. Hence the Super Bowls ads are more expensive regardless of which network broadcasts it as the audience is huge.

[EihTooms]

I will take your bet for serious money. Let's say $100,000. Money put up in advance in trust. I will take your bet and I assure you I will win because Trump will never go to jail. Was this just another of your lies? Were you lying or are you really going to make this bet?

"Trump will never go to jail".

That's a bold prediction. Let's consider a few of your safety nets in making that bold prediction:

Trump is a lifelong professional criminal who just recently bribed his former Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, to suddenly change his mind about cooperating with the 1/6 Investigation to the tune of $1 Million of other people's money given to his non-profit. That's something like 100 times more than Trump ever donated to other non-profits.

Trump can and will try to bribe witnesses, judges, jurors, everybody, with other people's money. It only takes one.

Trump can use other people's money to delay his trials and sentencing well beyond his expected lifespan.

Any one of the 74 million or rather 37 million loons who followed his instructions to vote for him twice in 2020 could weasel his or her way onto the jury. If so, game over.

Trump would be embraced with open arms in Russia, China, North Korea, with the Taliban and any number of America's adversaries he kissed ass for to gain sanctuary from prosecution or sentencing.

Now, if the bet is whether or not Trump committed serious crimes regardless whether or not he defies all historical precedent and spends time behind bars, Trump has already admitted to that. You could simply start with his admission that he tore up his written documents during his so-called presidency. You know, the ones his staff had to scotch tape together, some of which are now being reviewed by the 1/6 Commission?

Yeah, that violated The Presidential Records Act, which is a Federal Crime, a Felony.

[EihTooms]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/02/n...dering-ny.html

Great real news for a change!

Yes, as I have always said, as long as it is legal and promotes more congressional seats and presidential victories for the one Party that has produced and presided over every major economic recovery, expansion, market gains and historic jobs creation and none of the historic Crashes and Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years, the Democratic Party, rather than promoting more of those for the one Party that has produced and presided over the exact opposite results, the Republican Party, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I'm against it.

Now, if we outlaw gerrymandering and overturn all the other rigging in favor of a loony minority of Americans driving the economy into the shitter like clockwork whenever given the chance that is built into the system, like the Electoral College and the number of Senate seats determined by empty land mass rather than by the population of human beings, we might never see a Repub control of the House, the Senate, the White House or the Judiciary again. God Bless America.

[PVMonger]

I have my masters in finance so I probably have more reading comprehension than you. The people that support Trump work for a living and hire millions of employees. The people that support Biden are criminals, people on welfare, BLM and Antifa who are all a drain on society. And as far as the news, Fox was Number 1 for the 20th straight year with viewers increasing every year. Fake News CNN is going the opposite way declining every year. Real Americans want real news. That is why Fox News is getting watched and stays number 1.

Actually, none of these agree with your rant. At all. https://dasil.sites.grinnell.edu/202...d-republicans/ and https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-...s-republicans/ and https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-...ics-democrats/.

But what all three of these studies show is that people who vote Republican are racist, fascist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic or xenophobic. All Republicans identify with at least one of these characteristics. Most supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached former guy identify with 3 or 4.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Yes, that is what makes a true due diligence based prediction for the outcome of the midterms impossible.

On the one hand, the Dems have the repeated pattern of the 1st midterm of a new president going against them. They also have going against them with Biden and the Dems today the pattern of Dems losing significant numbers of congressional seats in subsequent midterms after passing truly great, historic, American life-improving legislation and programs as happened with FDR, LBJ, Clinton and Obama due to the effective demonization of those soon-to-be revered Great American Attributes by America-hating Repubs and their typically supportive pundits in Mainstream Media.

Add to that the extreme gerrymandering by Repubs to create new districts out of the likely Dem new arrivals that miraculously remained predominantly white Repub along with the new rules and laws being passed by Repub state legislatures to grant their loony QAnon overlords the power to throw out all the big city ballots and not count them at all if the outcome of the count does not please them..

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/02/n...dering-ny.html

[EihTooms]

I have my masters in finance so I probably have more reading comprehension than you. The people that support Trump work for a living and hire millions of employees. The people that support Biden are criminals, people on welfare, BLM and Antifa who are all a drain on society. And as far as the news, Fox was Number 1 for the 20th straight year with viewers increasing every year. Fake News CNN is going the opposite way declining every year. Real Americans want real news. That is why Fox News is getting watched and stays number 1.

Applying your masters in finance, if your best friend was manufacturing a consumer product and was offered a free one-time-only commercial spot on the highest rated Fox News Channel program, either The Five or Tucker Carlson or on the lowest rated regular network news hour, CBS Evening News, which offer would you advise him to snap up in a heartbeat?

[EihTooms]

I will take your bet for serious money. Let's say $100,000. Money put up in advance in trust. I will take your bet and I assure you I will win because Trump will never go to jail. Was this just another of your lies? Were you lying or are you really going to make this bet?

Where did you see me offering to make this bet?

Was it the same place you imagined seeing and hearing defeated, twice-Impeached former so-called president Trump doing or saying anything as intelligently, well-informed and competently as current President Biden?

[PVMonger]

I have my masters in finance so I probably have more reading comprehension than you. The people that support Trump work for a living and hire millions of employees. The people that support Biden are criminals, people on welfare, BLM and Antifa who are all a drain on society. And as far as the news, Fox was Number 1 for the 20th straight year with viewers increasing every year. Fake News CNN is going the opposite way declining every year. Real Americans want real news. That is why Fox News is getting watched and stays number 1.

You claim to have great reading comprehension. Where, in the three (that's 3, meaning more than 2 and less than 4) points the OP posted did he ever mention the word news. Yet here you are mentioning "news"?

Comprehension is fundamental and you do not have it.

[PVMonger]

I see you are still infatuated with Trump. More than a year later losers are still infatuated with Trump. They can't talk about Biden because of Biden failing policies both domestic and international. I bet the fools will still be posting a year from now on Trump.

I am just passing on news. If the news is about the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, so be it.

The only reason you fascists comment on it and on Biden is because you are running away from January 6th as fast as your little fascist legs can carry you.

[ScatManDoo]

I see you are still infatuated with Trump. More than a year later losers are still infatuated with Trump. They can't talk about Biden because of Biden failing policies both domestic and international. I bet the fools will still be posting a year from now on Trump.

I for one, am far more amused and entertained by TrumpShit than any other political shit. So I will still talk about TrumpShit.

Most amusing today is T-Shits attack today on his most pathetic lackey, Lindsey Graham.

Graham had the audacity to say that the folks who attached the capital, and were convicted, should not receive blanket amnesty.

BTW: TrumpShit's declaration yesterday (and his doubling down today) that he would give his criminal houligan's amnesty.

Means he finally went too far.

He started, what will be, a straight line decline for him.

His popularity, even with members of his own party is going to begin its decline (if iit didn't start already).

Donald Trump is a criminal, and he is headed for jail.

Less and less people are going to miss him.

[PVMonger]

I will take your bet for serious money. Let's say $100,000. Money put up in advance in trust. I will take your bet and I assure you I will win because Trump will never go to jail. Was this just another of your lies? Were you lying or are you really going to make this bet?

Nowhere in the original post did the OP say that he was betting anything. No wonder you voted for the one-term, twice-impeached former guy.

ROFL.

[Canada]

Before Trump signed and passed his one and only significant economic legislation on the last possible business day of 2017, that godawful waste of $2.5+ Trillion, The Tax Cut and Jobs Act, a fellow poster here who apparently was a longtime sucker for the perennial pro Repub election Mainstream Media falsehood that "Republicans handle the economy better than Democrats" wanted to bet me $1 that the USA economy would then soar to the tune of 10 quarters of 3%+ GDP growth or some such nonsense. I was supposed to bet it wouldn't.

Of course, as it turned out Trump, Moscow Mitch and the other Repubs who put that piece of crap together had conned American taxpayers into flushing $2.5+ Trillion down the shitter in exchange for fewer jobs created with it than without it, no noticeable improvement in Real GDP growth with it than without it and I don't think it ever produced even a single quarter of 3% GDP growth before Trump's spectacularly horrible economic stewardship and decisions plunged us into another, say it with me, Great Repub Crash and Recession.

I didn't take the bet. Yes, I lost a whole $1 by not placing it on the one most easily predictable outcome of any political party's likely economic results in history.

But I just couldn't bring myself to bet "on" the economic failure of America, which is what that bet would have been for on my side of it. Not even for $1.

Now somebody wants you to bet serious money that someone who was the President of the United States, an honored position touted by Americans as the Leader of the Free World, is enough of a stone cold criminal as his own words and behavior provide evidence for over and over again that even the millions of dollars his sucker cult followers send him won't keep him from being indicted, charged, convicted and required to spend well-deserved time behind bars..

I will take your bet for serious money. Let's say $100,000. Money put up in advance in trust. I will take your bet and I assure you I will win because Trump will never go to jail. Was this just another of your lies? Were you lying or are you really going to make this bet?