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  1. #13552

    The Great Biden Economic Effect as Non-Union UAW workers also benefit

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny 12  [View Original Post]
    ... Your lavish praise for Biden is unwarranted. He gave away a lot of money which should have produced a sugar high. Instead we ended up deeper in debt and inflation kicked off earlier in the USA than other places. And after adjusting for inflation, the working man is now making LESS than when Biden took office.
    More GREAT economic gains for the working American man, as even non-union workers benefit from a Biden driven UAW supported pay bump. Yeah...that UAW union, the 2x impeached, 4x indicted on 92 felony charges, Trump, said shouldn't pay their union dues.

    As polls have 71% of Americans supporting unions and approve of President Biden's show of support for unions.

    Toyota Gives Most U.S. Auto-Factory Workers 9% Pay Bump Following UAW Gains in Detroit
    https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/t...troit-123664ff

    This must be that "working man", that supposedly making "LESS".

    Yet another GREAT Biden economic data point, like a dagger to the heart of our ISG resident so called Repub economist "eggheads".

  2. #13551

    It is about the money!

    The idea that a billionaire has any interest in the plight of an individuals who cannot make ends meet is laughable. Some individuals are distracted by things unrelated to the real problems of the economy of the (Dis) United States of America.

    https://home.treasury.gov/news/featu...-united-states

    https://www.federalreserve.gov/econr...-20211022.html

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewd...h=5612b5b222a8

    Not everyone is fooled by the smoke and mirrors of issues unrelated to economics. I follow the money. That is all it is about in the (Dis) United States of America.

    A interesting set of articles. I do not see how it relates to the form of government in the (Dis) United States of America. Exactly what is the point you are making?.


  3. #13550

    RCP is the service cited by almost everyone

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    I'm confused. Didn't you say Real Clear Politics was a "Winger" organization that made it difficult to find polls that favored Biden? Why are you linking to the site? Did it change ownership or something?

    Interesting that Nikki Haley is head and shoulders above the other candidates, in terms of the favorable / unfavorable spread, with a 9.8% advantage over Biden. She is a Neocon, but I'd vote for her anyway. She'd be the lesser of evils.
    Actually, no I didn't say that. I refer to RCP as "demonstrably Winger-leaning. " You can find polls there that favor Biden. But RCP is more likely to include polls from services known not to show advantages for Dems as often as those for Repubs in their listing and therefore in their concensus of polls results.

    Historically, Emerson, Rasmussen and Harris come to mind although RCP is in a quandary about 1-2 of those lately because they have been coming up with Dem-advantage poll results every now and then.

    Of course, a good showing by Biden or the Dems in an RCP concensus poll, a Winger-leaning service like RCP, would be more impressive than if it were not Winger-leaning.

    And RCP is the more commonly quoted and cited polling service by most of MSM. Naturally, it being demonstrably Winger-leaning.

    That's why I cite it too.

    538 is rarely mentioned until perhaps weeks before an election. RCP and 538 do not include the same polls in order to arrive at a concensus and neither includes every known national poll available. Each one, any of them I presume, pick and choose the ones they want to list and exclude the ones they don't.

    Nikki Haley probably gets bonus points from voters for whom "bipartisanship" is a big plus. She has been pretending that as a Repub potus she is going to abandon the same Repub policies and stewardship that produces the same disastrous Repub results they have been producing for 100 years or so and, you know, promote the Dem policies and stewardship that did not. LOL.

    But I have seen polls "even on the demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP" (See how that works?) that show Biden beating Haley in Texas and such. She pulled down the Confederate flag from her statehouse. The Rrpub base will not gift her with the nomination.

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  5. #13548

    People do not understand the definition of democracy.

    The (Dis)United States of America is not a democracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    It definitely doesn't work well for schools and prisons.
    With all due respect, I was aware that "School" or "Prison" were forms of government. Now I could be wrong and if I am I welcome your correction. As seems there are so many experts on governments and politics posting here.

  6. #13547
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Maybe Democracy is not the best form of government in the world for everyone?
    It definitely doesn't work well for schools and prisons.

  7. #13546
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    ....And oh my but isn't it terrible how low Biden's Favorability / Job Approval ratings are? Except that they higher than Trump's, DeSantis', Haley's, every Congressional leader, Majority and Minority of both Parties, Congress in general and both major Parties in Congress!

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...alLeaders.html

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...roval-903.html

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6195.html

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6194.html

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...vote-7969.html

    Bill had no info on that, apparently.

    Oh, and no mention that Biden has not even begun to campaign for the election a year from now.
    I'm confused. Didn't you say Real Clear Politics was a "Winger" organization that made it difficult to find polls that favored Biden? Why are you linking to the site? Did it change ownership or something?

    Interesting that Nikki Haley is head and shoulders above the other candidates, in terms of the favorable / unfavorable spread, with a 9.8% advantage over Biden. She is a Neocon, but I'd vote for her anyway. She'd be the lesser of evils.

  8. #13545

    Trump's serious cognitive impairment is deepening rapidly

    Typically pro Repub Mainstream Media will probably shrug this off and ignore it while they are very busy citing Joe Biden's age twice as much as they do Trump's. Just as they did with Trump's confusing the leaders of Turkey and Hungary that he met and conferred with, who he ran for potus against in 2016 and 2020, whether WWII happened already and / or what he did to avert it.

    Consequently, it is probably time for Biden's ad money to stop touting his historic positive gains and accomplishments for the recovery, economy, national security, strengthening the western alliance and democracy, etc so much and start running more "Trumpian" negative ads.

    Negative in the sense of merely reporting the facts about his most likely addle-brained Repub opponent that typically pro Repub MSM and pundits like Bill Maher refuse to do. Although I suppose those ads really shouldn't start until Trump is officially declared the Repub Nominee:

    Trump claims he was president in 2021 during fraud trial testimony - follow live

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/polit...d-real-estate/

    Asked about whether he was involved in valuations in 2021, Mr Trump said: I was so busy at the White House my threshold was China, Russia and keeping our country safe.

    Prosecutor Kevin Wallace responded, saying: Just to clarify you werent president in 2021, correct?, to which Mr Trump replied: No, I wasnt.
    There is no Joe Biden counterpart to this current and ongoing series of blithering Trump assertions and incoherence. None. Not now, not ever.

    No wonder he flees from the debates.

  9. #13544

    Yes, most Dem Candidate voters might be too busy working too. But

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    No, I would have told them to fuck off and hung up the phone. That's why Republican candidates outperform polls.
    Then they'll just contact more respondents until they get the sampling percentage they want for self-identified Dems, Repubs and Independents anyway.

    The Repub Party's lord and savior ravenously feasts on the tiniest poll advantage anywhere at any time. His cult followers know this about him. In fact, his cult followers ravenously feast on them as well.

    Hard to believe those ravenously hungry Trump cult followers are as shy about letting any and every polling service know how they feel about their lord and savior and thereby please their lord and savior as you claim to be.

    I suspect their pretending to be "Independents / Bothsider / Neithersiders" when in fact they are routinely predisposed to be the Republican Candidate voter, as you just now admitted here, happens much more often than with Dem Candidate voters.

  10. #13543

    Dirty Joe is done, the long nightmare is almost over


  11. #13542

    Yes, definitely not for Repubs in the USA

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Maybe Democracy is not the best form of government in the world for everyone?
    In terms of competing to become potus, it hasn't worked out very well for Republican presidential candidates since 1992.

    If not for the singularly undemocratic Electoral College in the USA we likely would not have seen 1 Repub elected potus since 1988.

    GW Bush won more votes than his opponent in 2004 but by then had the incumbency on his side and had blundered, lied and manipulated himself into being a "Wartime" potus, which would not have been the case but for his appointed by the EC by way of his appointment by his fellow Repubs on the Supreme Court.

  12. #13541

    Nice try but

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/arabia
    https://www.quora.com/Is-Israel-on-the-Arabian-Peninsula
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Peninsula

    Israel is not part of Arabia as it's not located on the Arabian Peninsula. Nor is it considered an Arab country.

    Welcome to the way people conventionally communicate with each other about it in the real world.
    You said it is not "part of" Arabia.

    That isn't what I said or the way it is said in the link I posted.

    What you said has a very different meaning than what is meant by the way I said it, the way the link said it and the way I might have heard it said a few dozen times over the decades by people making the same observation I and the link made.

    Yeah, Isreal is not "part of" Arabia. So?

  13. #13540
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Question for you and Tiny:

    You both try to pass yourselves off as "Bothsiders / Neithersiders" here. If you were contacted by this polling service would you admit your Party Identification is "Repub" or claim you are an "Independent"?

    Lololol.
    No, I would have told them to fuck off and hung up the phone. That's why Republican candidates outperform polls.

  14. #13539
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Democracy in the Middle East and North Africa

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demo...d_North_Africa#text=Often%20 recognized%20 as%20 the%20 only, and%20 its%20 current%20 Benjamin%20 Netanyahu.

    Welcome to the way people conventionally communicate with each other about it in the real world.
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/arabia
    https://www.quora.com/Is-Israel-on-the-Arabian-Peninsula
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Peninsula

    Israel is not part of Arabia as it's not located on the Arabian Peninsula. Nor is it considered an Arab country.

    Welcome to the way people conventionally communicate with each other about it in the real world.

  15. #13538
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Democracy in the Middle East and North Africa

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demo...d_North_Africa#text=Often%20 recognized%20 as%20 the%20 only, and%20 its%20 current%20 Benjamin%20 Netanyahu.

    Welcome to the way people conventionally communicate with each other about it in the real world.
    Maybe Democracy is not the best form of government in the world for everyone?

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