American Politics

[SubCmdr]

You don't live in the USA anymore and don't plan on returning.

You don't know my travel plans. You will not be getting the memo. To the USGOV it is irrelevant where I live. Taxes are due from the US citizens worldwide.

Therefore if it was up to me I would revoke both your right to vote and citizenship for both of you.

Well then I guess it is fortunate that it it is not up to you. All you have to do in order for that to happen is to petition your elected officials at the federal level and ask for a redress of your grievances. They respond to email. At least mine do. LOL!.

Additionally your opinion on anything pertaining to USA politics is most certainly irrelevant.

Sorry Charlie, we don't want tuna with good taste, we want tuna that tastes good.

Didn't the US get started because a bunch of mother fuckers who were rich decided to say "Fuck you" another mother fucker across the ocean because they didn't want to pay taxes? No taxation without representation. How much revenue would USGOV lose if it your policies were invoked against all individuals excising their right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"? Show me where it says that a US Citizen is required to live in the United States in order to vote or to retain their citizenship.

Checkmate!

[Tiny 12]

You don't live in the USA anymore and don't plan on returning.

Therefore if it was up to me I would revoke both your right to vote and citizenship for both of you.
.

Why would you do that? They pay taxes but don't receive the benefits bestowed by the Federal government.

Oh. I forgot. Unless you're a politician or a farmer or a green energy entrepreneur or some other special interest you don't get squat from the federal government anyway.

Never mind.

I wouldn't take their citizenship away if I were dictator though. Making it more difficult for Tooms to vote is a good idea however.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"I judge USD through the lens of international exchange rates being given for currency in the countries I mainly operate in. Lately that has been: DOP, COP and THB. Over the last year results have been mixed.

THB: Up and down. Trend is up.

COP: Trend has been straight down.

DOP: Trend is up and holding strong.

A strong USD is good for me. And I do not care which party gives it to me. Got no love for the Donkey or the Elephant. ".

You don't live in the USA anymore and don't plan on returning.

Therefore if it was up to me I would revoke both your right to vote and citizenship for both of you.

Additionally your opinion on anything pertaining to USA politics is most certainly irrelevant.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Actually, no I didn't say that. I refer to RCP as "demonstrably Winger-leaning. " You can find polls there that favor Biden. But RCP is more likely to include polls from services known not to show advantages for Dems as often as those for Repubs in their listing and therefore in their concensus of polls results.

Historically, Emerson, Rasmussen and Harris come to mind although RCP is in a quandary about 1-2 of those lately because they have been coming up with Dem-advantage poll results every now and then.

Of course, a good showing by Biden or the Dems in an RCP concensus poll, a Winger-leaning service like RCP, would be more impressive than if it were not Winger-leaning.

And RCP is the more commonly quoted and cited polling service by most of MSM. Naturally, it being demonstrably Winger-leaning.

That's why I cite it too.

538 is rarely mentioned until perhaps weeks before an election. RCP and 538 do not include the same polls in order to arrive at a concensus and neither includes every known national poll available. Each one, any of them I presume, pick and choose the ones they want to list and exclude the ones they don't.

Nikki Haley probably gets bonus points from voters for whom "bipartisanship" is a big plus. She has been pretending that as a Repub potus she is going to abandon the same Repub policies and stewardship that produces the same disastrous Repub results they have been producing for 100 years or so and, you know, promote the Dem policies and stewardship that did not. LOL.

But I have seen polls "even on the demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP" (See how that works?) that show Biden beating Haley in Texas and such. She pulled down the Confederate flag from her statehouse. The Rrpub base will not gift her with the nomination. ".

Nor should we!! She's not one of us!!

[Tiny 12]

The (Dis)United States of America is not a democracy.

With all due respect, I was aware that "School" or "Prison" were forms of government. Now I could be wrong and if I am I welcome your correction. As seems there are so many experts on governments and politics posting here.

Apologies, I may have come off as flippant without intending to. My niece went to a school from fourth to twelfth grade that was a democracy. The students voted on what classes they took. They could vote out a teacher and have him fired although I'm not sure they ever did that. Anyway, she didn't get a good education.

I believe over the last 60 years the government of Singapore has done better than any at the national level, and Singapore's not exactly a democracy.

[SubCmdr]

I judge USD through the lens of international exchange rates being given for currency in the countries I mainly operate in. Lately that has been: DOP, COP and THB. Over the last year results have been mixed.

THB: Up and down. Trend is up.

COP: Trend has been straight down.

DOP: Trend is up and holding strong.

A strong USD is good for me. And I do not care which party gives it to me. Got no love for the Donkey or the Elephant.

[Spidy]

... Your lavish praise for Biden is unwarranted. He gave away a lot of money which should have produced a sugar high. Instead we ended up deeper in debt and inflation kicked off earlier in the USA than other places. And after adjusting for inflation, the working man is now making LESS than when Biden took office.

More GREAT economic gains for the working American man, as even non-union workers benefit from a Biden driven UAW supported pay bump. Yeah...that UAW union, the 2x impeached, 4x indicted on 92 felony charges, Trump, said shouldn't pay their union dues.

As polls have 71% of Americans supporting unions and approve of President Biden's show of support for unions.

Toyota Gives Most U.S. Auto-Factory Workers 9% Pay Bump Following UAW Gains in Detroit
https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/t...troit-123664ff

This must be that "working man", that supposedly making "LESS".

Yet another GREAT Biden economic data point, like a dagger to the heart of our ISG resident so called Repub economist "eggheads".

[SubCmdr]

The idea that a billionaire has any interest in the plight of an individuals who cannot make ends meet is laughable. Some individuals are distracted by things unrelated to the real problems of the economy of the (Dis) United States of America.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/featu...-united-states

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econr...-20211022.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewd...h=5612b5b222a8

Not everyone is fooled by the smoke and mirrors of issues unrelated to economics. I follow the money. That is all it is about in the (Dis) United States of America.

A interesting set of articles. I do not see how it relates to the form of government in the (Dis) United States of America. Exactly what is the point you are making?.

"It definitely doesn't work well for schools and prisons."

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023...ot-any-better/

https://www.newsmax.com/john-gizzi/d...06/id/1141209/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...lack-hispanic/

[EihTooms]

I'm confused. Didn't you say Real Clear Politics was a "Winger" organization that made it difficult to find polls that favored Biden? Why are you linking to the site? Did it change ownership or something?

Interesting that Nikki Haley is head and shoulders above the other candidates, in terms of the favorable / unfavorable spread, with a 9.8% advantage over Biden. She is a Neocon, but I'd vote for her anyway. She'd be the lesser of evils.

Actually, no I didn't say that. I refer to RCP as "demonstrably Winger-leaning. " You can find polls there that favor Biden. But RCP is more likely to include polls from services known not to show advantages for Dems as often as those for Repubs in their listing and therefore in their concensus of polls results.

Historically, Emerson, Rasmussen and Harris come to mind although RCP is in a quandary about 1-2 of those lately because they have been coming up with Dem-advantage poll results every now and then.

Of course, a good showing by Biden or the Dems in an RCP concensus poll, a Winger-leaning service like RCP, would be more impressive than if it were not Winger-leaning.

And RCP is the more commonly quoted and cited polling service by most of MSM. Naturally, it being demonstrably Winger-leaning.

That's why I cite it too.

538 is rarely mentioned until perhaps weeks before an election. RCP and 538 do not include the same polls in order to arrive at a concensus and neither includes every known national poll available. Each one, any of them I presume, pick and choose the ones they want to list and exclude the ones they don't.

Nikki Haley probably gets bonus points from voters for whom "bipartisanship" is a big plus. She has been pretending that as a Repub potus she is going to abandon the same Repub policies and stewardship that produces the same disastrous Repub results they have been producing for 100 years or so and, you know, promote the Dem policies and stewardship that did not. LOL.

But I have seen polls "even on the demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP" (See how that works?) that show Biden beating Haley in Texas and such. She pulled down the Confederate flag from her statehouse. The Rrpub base will not gift her with the nomination.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"It definitely doesn't work well for schools and prisons."

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023...ot-any-better/

https://www.newsmax.com/john-gizzi/d...06/id/1141209/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...lack-hispanic/

[SubCmdr]

The (Dis)United States of America is not a democracy.

It definitely doesn't work well for schools and prisons.

With all due respect, I was aware that "School" or "Prison" were forms of government. Now I could be wrong and if I am I welcome your correction. As seems there are so many experts on governments and politics posting here.

[Tiny 12]

Maybe Democracy is not the best form of government in the world for everyone?

It definitely doesn't work well for schools and prisons.

[Tiny 12]

....And oh my but isn't it terrible how low Biden's Favorability / Job Approval ratings are? Except that they higher than Trump's, DeSantis', Haley's, every Congressional leader, Majority and Minority of both Parties, Congress in general and both major Parties in Congress!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...alLeaders.html

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...roval-903.html

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6195.html

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6194.html

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...vote-7969.html

Bill had no info on that, apparently.

Oh, and no mention that Biden has not even begun to campaign for the election a year from now.

I'm confused. Didn't you say Real Clear Politics was a "Winger" organization that made it difficult to find polls that favored Biden? Why are you linking to the site? Did it change ownership or something?

Interesting that Nikki Haley is head and shoulders above the other candidates, in terms of the favorable / unfavorable spread, with a 9.8% advantage over Biden. She is a Neocon, but I'd vote for her anyway. She'd be the lesser of evils.

[EihTooms]

Typically pro Repub Mainstream Media will probably shrug this off and ignore it while they are very busy citing Joe Biden's age twice as much as they do Trump's. Just as they did with Trump's confusing the leaders of Turkey and Hungary that he met and conferred with, who he ran for potus against in 2016 and 2020, whether WWII happened already and / or what he did to avert it.

Consequently, it is probably time for Biden's ad money to stop touting his historic positive gains and accomplishments for the recovery, economy, national security, strengthening the western alliance and democracy, etc so much and start running more "Trumpian" negative ads.

Negative in the sense of merely reporting the facts about his most likely addle-brained Repub opponent that typically pro Repub MSM and pundits like Bill Maher refuse to do. Although I suppose those ads really shouldn't start until Trump is officially declared the Repub Nominee:

Trump claims he was president in 2021 during fraud trial testimony - follow live

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/polit...d-real-estate/

Asked about whether he was involved in valuations in 2021, Mr Trump said: I was so busy at the White House my threshold was China, Russia and keeping our country safe.

Prosecutor Kevin Wallace responded, saying: Just to clarify you werent president in 2021, correct?, to which Mr Trump replied: No, I wasnt.

There is no Joe Biden counterpart to this current and ongoing series of blithering Trump assertions and incoherence. None. Not now, not ever.

No wonder he flees from the debates.

[EihTooms]

No, I would have told them to fuck off and hung up the phone. That's why Republican candidates outperform polls.

Then they'll just contact more respondents until they get the sampling percentage they want for self-identified Dems, Repubs and Independents anyway.

The Repub Party's lord and savior ravenously feasts on the tiniest poll advantage anywhere at any time. His cult followers know this about him. In fact, his cult followers ravenously feast on them as well.

Hard to believe those ravenously hungry Trump cult followers are as shy about letting any and every polling service know how they feel about their lord and savior and thereby please their lord and savior as you claim to be.

I suspect their pretending to be "Independents / Bothsider / Neithersiders" when in fact they are routinely predisposed to be the Republican Candidate voter, as you just now admitted here, happens much more often than with Dem Candidate voters.