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  1. #5844
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017, 2018 and 2029 when Trump reversed a lot of Obama regulations especially for energy industry and financial industry...
    Good lord, man, then your client is in big trouble, Mr. Advisor.

    The broad USA Stock Market as quite accurately represented by the S&P 500 Index was down -4. 38% in 2018. There was a broadly based Bear Market Decline (20%) in December of that year. Did you not notice it? Or remember it?

    They are in particular big trouble if you were advising them to invest just as large and enthusiastically during any previous Repub administration as the Dem administrations, which means they have not dodged but ridden every Great Repub Bear Market Crash to the very dead bottom and gained almost nothing but anxiety by the time the next Dem administration came in to recover it.

  2. #5843
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017, 2018 and 2029
    Both Trump and Biden will probably be dead by 2029.

    That's probably the year Kamala gets inaugurated.

    For her first or second term.

  3. #5842

    I don't support a coup

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for adding to the list of people who support the January 6th coup attempt.

    The rioters did do more than break windows and take selfies. They smeared c all over the walls of the Capitol. They stole both personal and Government property. They threatened to hang the Vice President of the US. They illegally attempted to stop the certification of the Electoral College votes. Make no mistake, this was an attempted coup.

    The only person killed inside the Capitol that day would not have been killed if she had stayed home. Instead, she forcibly and illegally tried to enter the barricaded Speaker's lobby. I thought Republicans believed that "actions have consequences". Or does that only apply to black people, LGBTQ persons, etc?

    G. O. A. T? ROFL. Undoubtedly, though, the G. G. O. A. T. Greatest Grifter Of All Time.

    Oligarchs stole the election? How? By having Chinese thermostats change votes? Every one of Donnie's 60+ lawsuits failed. Why? Lack of evidence.
    I support full scale civil war.

    Winner takes all!

    https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/04/p...trust-the-fbi/

    https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/h...on-was-rigged/

  4. #5841

    Everyone knows

    "The fact that you and many so-called conservatives don't care about January 6th is what is really concerning. When was finding out who organized and funded the January 6th assault on our free elections a petty partisan exercise to be disparaged by virtually every elected Congressional Republican?" Come on. "Everyone knows" that it was a false flag operation organized by the FBI. Tucker said so, so it must be true!

  5. #5840
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Every time a Dem / Biden-basher ignores the overwhelming record of positive results for America produced by Dems and now by Biden in particular along with the disastrous results of Repubs and most especially those of Trump, you are proving yourself to be the obedient servant of Mainstream Media
    Since many of them are middle class. No better off than a large number of democrats.

    They look like suckers to me.

  6. #5839

    Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Probably

    https://www.slickcharts.com/sp500/returns

    Biden's first year Stock Market return as measured by the industry standard S&P 500 Index was 28.7% (the report on total return including dividends will come later).

    That surpasses Trump's first year return of 21.8%.

    It surpasses even more Trump's average annual return of 16.8%.

    Anybody think Trump's average annual returns were "unfairly" lowered because his disastrous economic decision to lay the groundwork for a deadly viral spread to emerge unmonitored, unprevented and improperly responded to in 2018, lie about its risks, mock the known mitigation measures and discourage any effort to invent or take a vaccine for it from the beginning and thereby create his worldwide economy and market destroying Trump's Pandemic most notably through his final year in office screwed up an otherwise magnificent Stock Market return record, the measure of "economic success" Trump revered most?

    Well, you'd be wrong about that.

    Trump's 3 year average annual return pre-2020 was even lower than his 4 year average at 16.3%.
    I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017, 2018 and 2029 when Trump reversed a lot of Obama regulations especially for energy industry and financial industry. By end of 2019 China virus hit the world and business stopped in USA and the world. After a bleak 2020 and 3 vaccines hitting consumers in late 2020 it was expected that the market would stabilize and return to the gains made from 2017-2019 and it did. Since the new virus is less deadly than the last the market is stable. No credit is given to current administration. With the BBB virtually non existent now and Biden facing an election year our firm is expecting stable market. Most of my clients are 401 k and retirement funds so last 5 years have been extremely good. Once Biden tried destroying the oil industry we saw an increased opportunity for our clients in oil stocks once the administration drove down production and drove up oil and gas prices. Our average return on the energy side for oil was 68 per cent. For the wealthy and middle class who funded their 401 K to the max 2021 was a good year. It is an election year and the democrats are going to try to jam some socialist program or green program through but we do not expect that to happen. Expect a slight correction in March when feds raise interest rates for first time in years. But with a correction comes opportunities.

    Our firm is one of the 3 biggest in USA and we get research weekly. They are not always right and some advisors don't do the research but we have an incredible record.

  7. #5838

    Another coup supporter

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Count all the guns those protesters own? How many of those guns were brought to the rally? How many shot anyone? If you want to have an insurrection you do more than break windows and take selfies.

    The only person murdered was an unarmed veteran /100 lb white woman, by a black democrat!!

    President Donald J Trump G. O. A. T.

    The sequel 2024.

    And if the oligarchs rig it again, let there be all out civil war!!
    Thank you for adding to the list of people who support the January 6th coup attempt.

    The rioters did do more than break windows and take selfies. They smeared c all over the walls of the Capitol. They stole both personal and Government property. They threatened to hang the Vice President of the US. They illegally attempted to stop the certification of the Electoral College votes. Make no mistake, this was an attempted coup.

    The only person killed inside the Capitol that day would not have been killed if she had stayed home. Instead, she forcibly and illegally tried to enter the barricaded Speaker's lobby. I thought Republicans believed that "actions have consequences". Or does that only apply to black people, LGBTQ persons, etc?

    G. O. A. T? ROFL. Undoubtedly, though, the G. G. O. A. T. Greatest Grifter Of All Time.

    Oligarchs stole the election? How? By having Chinese thermostats change votes? Every one of Donnie's 60+ lawsuits failed. Why? Lack of evidence.

    Think about this for a minute. Here's what the cult believes! Voters can't be trusted. The voting process can't be trusted. Local election officials can't be trusted. County election officials can't be trusted. State election officials can't be trusted. Local judges can't be trusted. State judges can't be trusted. State Supreme Courts can't be trusted. Federal Circuit Court judges can't be trusted. Federal Appellate Court judges can't be trusted. The Supreme Court can't be trusted. The only person who can be trusted is Donald Trump. If you need more than the time it took to read the above to realize how appallingly stupid it sounds, you are part of the problem.

    Like I said earlier, if Donnie runs again, he could lose the EC by 538-0 and you cultists will still crown him king.

  8. #5837
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Count all the guns those protesters own? How many of those guns were brought to the rally? How many shot anyone? If you want to have an insurrection you do more than break windows and take selfies.

    The only person murdered was an unarmed veteran /100 lb white woman, by a black democrat!!

    President Donald J Trump G. O. A. T.

    The sequel 2024.

    And if the oligarchs rig it again, let there be all out civil war!!
    Trump and his iInsurrection Mob were responsible for 5 deaths that day and more related deaths soon after. The violent Q-anon nut you mentioned was not "murdered. " She was shot by an American hero after illegally breaking into the area near members of Congress she and the Trump Insurrection Mob behind her were intent upon assassinating. And then only after multiple warnings to withdraw.

    Oh, BTW, court documents, video evidence and news coverage show that some of Trump's rioters were armed with guns, many later seized by the police.

    This was a mob of idiot Trumpsters intent upon stopping an Electoral College count submission and, if necessary, killing a few cops and elected officials along the way. That is still an Insurrection. They were not prepared and organized enough to represent an anti-America military force capable of running the American government for so much as a single hour.

    This time.

  9. #5836

    Like I said

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Probably

    https://www.slickcharts.com/sp500/returns

    Biden's first year Stock Market return as measured by the industry standard S&P 500 Index was 28.7% (the report on total return including dividends will come later).

    That surpasses Trump's first year return of 21.8%.

    It surpasses even more Trump's average annual return of 16.8%.

    Anybody think Trump's average annual returns were "unfairly" lowered because his disastrous economic decision to lay the groundwork for a deadly viral spread to emerge unmonitored, unprevented and improperly responded to in 2018, lie about its risks, mock the known mitigation measures and discourage any effort to invent or take a vaccine for it from the beginning and thereby create his worldwide economy and market destroying Trump's Pandemic most notably through his final year in office screwed up an otherwise magnificent Stock Market return record, the measure of "economic success" Trump revered most?

    Well, you'd be wrong about that.

    Trump's 3 year average annual return pre-2020 was even lower than his 4 year average at 16.3%.
    Like I said previously. The rich get richer. The stock market helped the rich far more than the average family. Did not help the poor at all. Yes market is up and the biggest benefactor was Warren Buffett: Biden biggest donor. I like many other wealthy people benefited greatly with Berkshire stock. 1 share of Berkshire A went up $120,000. But I bet most people don't own this stock. But I do and I know Pelosi and Biden own this stock. I bet you don't own this stock. Biden trying to kill oil industry backfired like everyone knew it would and helped double oil prices. I along with other people who had smart financial advisors and money bought oil stocks that went up 30-85 per cent. Stock market was up 17 per cent but leader was oil stocks. The fools scoffed at the oil industry and the smart made millions on the oil industry last year.

    But don't brag up Biden too much on the stock market because if he ever does get one of his bad policies in we are going to see a crash. Fortunately he has been to incompetent to implement much.

  10. #5835

    The real world

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    The only people who don't care about January 6th are the 74+ million fools who voted for the former guy. People like you, Elvis, Cali and a few others. Your comment of "politicians scared for one day" says it all. Everybody else with a brain, both here in the US and elsewhere in the world, is very concerned with what happened on January 6th.

    The "real world" as you term it knows that the former guy and his merry band of idiots orchestrated a coup. Thankfully the coup failed. But I have no doubt that Republicans will try it again in 2024. If the former guy runs he could lose the popular vote by 50,000,000 and lose the EC by 538-0 and Republicans will swing into gear and crown him king. I know that that's what you and the rest of the cultists want.

    Anybody who supports a coup is the real hater here.
    The real world doesn't care about Trump anymore. The real world sees the real problems in the USA today. The real world see inflation. The real work see the dangerous crimes in their cities. The real world see the drugs and criminals illegally coming through insecure borders. The real world sees the future. The real world will change the future by voting for change in 2022 and making Biden a lame duck president so that he can't totally destroy America. The fools and pessimist's will continue to talk about Trump. The real world will succeed and the fools and pessimists will still be living the past.

  11. #5834
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Count all the guns those protesters own? How many of those guns were brought to the rally? How many shot anyone? If you want to have an insurrection you do more than break windows and take selfies.

    The only person murdered was an unarmed veteran /100 lb white woman, by a black democrat!!

    President Donald J Trump G. O. A. T.

    The sequel 2024.

    And if the oligarchs rig it again, let there be all out civil war!!
    Hey MarquisdeSade1,

    Just to measure you're grip on reality.

    Do you believe that Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election?

  12. #5833
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.

    The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.
    Every time a Dem / Biden-basher ignores the overwhelming record of positive results for America produced by Dems and now by Biden in particular along with the disastrous results of Repubs and most especially those of Trump, you are proving yourself to be the obedient servant of Mainstream Media in their mission to help Repubs win elections in order to produce their typically horrible results and to therefore deliver the ear and eye-attracting Mainstream Media ratings for horrible news they can always count on Repubs to deliver:

    CBS Chief: Trumps Success Is Damn Good For the Network

    https://fortune.com/2016/03/01/les-moonves-cbs-trump/

    ...Leslie Moonves, the chairman of CBS (CBS), admitted as much on Monday. It may not be good for America, but its damn good for CBS, Moonves said at a Morgan Stanley conference in San Francisco, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
    Proud?

  13. #5832

    Civil disobedience 101

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Basically no one cares about January 6. So a bunch of radical right winger protesters stormed the whitehouse full of politicians. Who cares. It lasted one afternoon and nothing after that. Radical left wing protesters looted and burned cities. They are still doing it to this day. I guarantee more people in California are concerned more with crime out of control daily and the safety of their families than they worry for politicians scared for one day. Get a life. Look at the real world. Why do you guys have so much hatred? Life is to short. Biden is ruining lives every day and O am not going to dwell on it. I am going to take advantage of it because he catering to the rich. Maybe you should have done more with your life in the past rather than dwell on Trump. Life is good. His actions have consequences. We have a terrible president but he will be a lame duck president by November. He is doing it to himself.
    Count all the guns those protesters own? How many of those guns were brought to the rally? How many shot anyone? If you want to have an insurrection you do more than break windows and take selfies.

    The only person murdered was an unarmed veteran /100 lb white woman, by a black democrat!!

    President Donald J Trump G. O. A. T.

    The sequel 2024.

    And if the oligarchs rig it again, let there be all out civil war!!

  14. #5831
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    You and every other MAGA supporter claimed that the pre-election polls were wrong in 2020. Those polls claimed that Biden was ahead by 7% or so. You and every other MAGA supporter claimed that the polls were wrong and that the former guy would win.

    The polls were wrong in the percentage but not in the fact that Biden won.
    Yes, using the more pertinent "consensus of polls" rather than cherry-picking one or two individual polls to assess the accuracy of "the polls", they got it as remarkably accurate to within a normal +/-Margin of Error in 2016 and 2020 as they have gotten it for many decades:

    General Election 2016 RealClearPolitics Average: Clinton +3.2%.
    Final Results: Clinton +2.1%


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nton-5491.html

    General Election 2020 RealClearPolitics Average: Biden +7.2%
    Final Results: Biden +4.5%


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6247.html

    When you look at the consensus of polls for the Electoral Map Results in 2020, they were even more amazingly accurate. Simply switch the very close states of Florida and Georgia and they got it 100% right:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep..._toss_ups.html

    The people who still cling to this idea that "the polls" were wrong in 2020 are apparently the suckers that Team Trump and the Repubs were targeting to fall for that crap during the brief window between election night and several days later when all the ballots were counted including the record number and percentage of mail-in ballots submitted in the midst of Trump's Pandemic.

    LOL. That was the whole purpose in Repubs preventing all those mail-in ballots from being counted prior to election night and in some cases even on election night in all those states with Repub legislatures; to allow for a few days' delay in producing the final true results wherein Trump could work his con magic to sucker his cult followers and rubes into accepting his Big Lie about the election being stolen from him.

    And that was the basis for his and Team Trump's plans to overthrow American democracy legally or illegally, by hook or by crook over the next couple of months and, failing that, which they did, to incite a violent Insurrection to prevent the peaceful transfer of power no later than the day those Electoral Votes would be formally recorded on January 6, 2021. Which is exactly why January 6 was definitely not a matter of just a few radical nuts getting out of control. Nope. They were Trumpsters, Repub cult followers, being prepared, primed and controlled by Trump to do exactly what they did on his behalf going back to at least November 3 and technically even earlier than that.

  15. #5830
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    2017-2018. After the Obama fiasco.
    Links, please.

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