American Politics

[Villainy]

The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."

Remind me. Which party controlled the Presidency and Senate in 2020?

[EihTooms]

Texas and Florida still rank higher than California and New York for Trump's Pandemic virus cases per 100,000 residents:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

That is a remarkable statistic considering the greater number of densely populated cities in the latter two lower cases states vs the former two higher cases states.

[EihTooms]

How has he solved it? It is worse today than it was a year ago. Vaccinated people are getting the virus along with unvaccinated. Biden has done nothing but offer vaccines to the public.

It is not worse today. No vaccine for an airborne virus can prevent a positive infection test result. They are meant to protect against serious illness, hospitalization and death due to infection.

Serious illness, hospitalization and death from being infected by Trump's Pandemic virus among those who are fully vaccinated by the vaccines Biden made free and easily available to every American is extremely low.

That is a tremendous medical science and competent national leadership success.

You should be thanking Biden and science for that remarkable success and lamenting the fact that there were so many stupid people who fell for Trump's hogwash.

[EihTooms]

Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!

And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?

The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."

The NYT and Biden's "it is all Republican's fault" line is a distraction from his own incompetence and of course, you douches bought it. The plans robs you of your own wealth and you fools were screaming your support of it.

So tell me what is RFK's plan? And what Biden's is and why you are in favor of sticking with the Biden plan?

Biden has saved the lives of millions of Americans smart enough to take the vaccines he made free and easily available to every American.

If the math shows a very high percentage of the Americans smart enough to have done that are Democrats and a very high percentage of Americans too stupid to have done that are Republicans, that isn't Biden's fault.

Maybe you should blame whoever the so-called potus was that worked mightily for almost all of critical year 2020 to convince stupid people that Trump's Pandemic virus was a hoax, under control, was disappearing, would be gone by the Fall of that year and repeatedly assured them it would go away without a vaccine, so no reason to bother taking one.

He of all people knew very well which side of the Smart vs Stupid scale were his Republican followers who would surely believe his hogwash.

[PVMonger]

Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!

And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?

The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."

The NYT and Biden's "it is all Republican's fault" line is a distraction from his own incompetence and of course, you douches bought it. The plans robs you of your own wealth and you fools were screaming your support of it.

So tell me what is RFK's plan? And what Biden's is and why you are in favor of sticking with the Biden plan?

There is no irony. There still lots of Republican scammers who all want to get in on the former guy's grift and lots Republican morons with more money than sense.

[Cali Guy]

There is no national solution left for Biden to legally enact because he has already solved Trump's Pandemic problem in America by making sure every American who wants to avoid getting seriously ill from it, requiring hospitalization for it or dying from it could do so anytime they wanted.

Even Trump essentially shrugs off any real problem with what Biden has done to deal with Trump's Pandemic in America, steps on his cult followers' idiotic bit about "more people dying now than under you, Dear Leader!" and dismisses what we have now as just a pandemic among the unvaccinated, no biggie. He certainly isn't going to lose any sleep over that situation and neither should anyone else.

Yeah, Trump's cult followers will continue clog up the healthcare system with their easily avoidable hospitalizations often leading to death and thereby cause unnecessary deaths of responsible, vaccinated Americans who die for lack of timely medical attention.

But Trumpsters are into causing their fellow Americans to suffer and die unnecessarily anyway from "2nd Amendment Solutions" so if it wasn't this way it would be another. At least this way many unvaccinated Repubs will also permanently remove themselves from the voter rolls along the way. Hard to find a downside in that.

How has he solved it? It is worse today than it was a year ago. Vaccinated people are getting the virus along with unvaccinated. Biden has done nothing but offer vaccines to the public.

[Cali Guy]

Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!

And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?

The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."

The NYT and Biden's "it is all Republican's fault" line is a distraction from his own incompetence and of course, you douches bought it. The plans robs you of your own wealth and you fools were screaming your support of it.

So tell me what is RFK's plan? And what Biden's is and why you are in favor of sticking with the Biden plan?

11 months ago Biden had a plan. 11 months later cases are skyrocketing and USA does not have enough test kits. People were lined up for miles and hours trying to get tested today. Biden plan must have been do nothing and hope it goes away. 3 vaccines and a year later we are worse off than we were in 2020. What a douche bag failure.

[ScatManDoo]

Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!

And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?

Biden is successfully vaccinating America.

Biden's success is shown by maintaining adequate hospital capacity, which TrumpShit failed at.

If they need to triage out the foolish unvaccinated, since they've become lost causes.

[PVMonger]

Here's an interesting read.

https://www.tulane.edu/~sumter/Reflections/LinWar.html

And since the MAGA cult members believe that the Republican party has never, ever changed one bit, this means that Republicans are, and always have been, war mongers.

Oops.

[Elvis 2008]

The unvaccinated idiots (who are mostly Republican) won't get vaccinated, won't wear masks, won't socially distance, are against mandates of any kind other than mandates to not wear masks, to not socially distance and to not get vaccinated.

Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!

And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?

The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."

The NYT and Biden's "it is all Republican's fault" line is a distraction from his own incompetence and of course, you douches bought it. The plans robs you of your own wealth and you fools were screaming your support of it.

So tell me what is RFK's plan? And what Biden's is and why you are in favor of sticking with the Biden plan?

[EihTooms]

The unvaccinated idiots (who are mostly Republican) won't get vaccinated, won't wear masks, won't socially distance, are against mandates of any kind other than mandates to not wear masks, to not socially distance and to not get vaccinated.

The only real Federal solution would be to round them all up and incarcerate them in concentration camps. But that's not possible 'cause that's what the fascist MAGA cult would have done. Hence no Federal solution.

The funny thing is that the MAGA cult will poke fun of this yet they have no solutions either, other than howling at the moon.

There is no national solution left for Biden to legally enact because he has already solved Trump's Pandemic problem in America by making sure every American who wants to avoid getting seriously ill from it, requiring hospitalization for it or dying from it could do so anytime they wanted.

Even Trump essentially shrugs off any real problem with what Biden has done to deal with Trump's Pandemic in America, steps on his cult followers' idiotic bit about "more people dying now than under you, Dear Leader!" and dismisses what we have now as just a pandemic among the unvaccinated, no biggie. He certainly isn't going to lose any sleep over that situation and neither should anyone else.

Yeah, Trump's cult followers will continue clog up the healthcare system with their easily avoidable hospitalizations often leading to death and thereby cause unnecessary deaths of responsible, vaccinated Americans who die for lack of timely medical attention.

But Trumpsters are into causing their fellow Americans to suffer and die unnecessarily anyway from "2nd Amendment Solutions" so if it wasn't this way it would be another. At least this way many unvaccinated Repubs will also permanently remove themselves from the voter rolls along the way. Hard to find a downside in that.

[Paulie97]

Here's an interesting read.

https://www.tulane.edu/~sumter/Reflections/LinWar.html

[ScatManDoo]

CNN, Chris Cuomo.

NBC, Matt Lauer, Tom Brokaw.

FUX, Jamie Horowitz, Charles Payne, Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, Judy Slater, Bob Beckel (fired for racist comments), Kimberly Guilfoyle (she left and her accuser was paid $4 million).

Score: CNN 1, NBC 2, FUX 6 or 7.

At least us "socialists" can count. The MAGA cult just makes stuff up.

I must not be getting all the news.

Tom Brokaw?

What did he do?

Surprised he still gets it up.

I also don't recognize most of the Fux names, but don't really care.

[EihTooms]

It's good to see that you have your priorities straight! Wink It's also good that our side of the isle has someone as dogged as say Canada / Cali Guy, so someone can take a break for a few months, come back, and be sure of having plenty to read.

That said I'll play the devil's advocate for a moment. There's a lot of different measurements when it comes to a president's economic report card. For example if you pick just one while ignoring the others, and beat that drum loud enough then voila! You have an argument, or at least a talking point. But even that doesn't tell us the sorts of jobs created under Carter. How do the numbers hash out when it comes to pay? How many part time? And if there was a recession you can just blame it on the previous guy by focusing on the negative bullet points on his economic resume. This is why so many political arguments involve talking past one another.

Also, what about "Lincoln's Civil War?" Arguably he provoked the armed conflict with his refusal to abandon Ft Sumter, even though the north had withdrawn from other southern forts. Readings of the letters home of southern soldiers reveals more of a local mindset, that they were fighting to repell an invasion with little mention of slavery. Only 25% of southern families owned slaves. Though the slavery question was the clear reason for succession as seen in the minutes of a number of state governments, so any claims that the war wasn't over that are absurd..

I think your devil's advocate nuance points were reasonably valid before Reagan's first presidential term. Hell, I was a lazy Bothsider in those days and voted for Reagan in 1980 on the assumption that, good economy or horrific economy, I guess it's just the luck of the draw, economic cycles, whatever, it really doesn't matter which party is in control and I applied all those nuanced excuses and allowances you mentioned to my unfortunate decision.

I was wrong about that.

And, after all, in pre-Reagan 1980 we only had Great Depression Massive Jobs Destruction Hoover, Three Recessions and Horrible Jobs Creator Eisenhower and Long National Nightmare, Recession and Middling Jobs Creator Nixon and Ford to go on during modern times. The pattern had just begun.

I thought, surely the Repub Party had learned the lesson that their economic stewardship of the past was crap and it was time for serious change and improvement.

I was wrong about that.

But, good lord. By the time Reagan got his way and Crashed us into his Great Reagan / Repub Recession, the worst since the one Hoover and at least 2 Repubs before him produced and presided over, then Bush1 got his way and produced the Long Recession and his horrible jobs creation record, then Bush2 got his way and produced the Great Bush2/ Repub Recession replacing Reagan's as the worst since Hoover's and his massive jobs destruction, then Trump got his way and produced the Great Trump / Repub Recession replacing Bush2's as the worst since Hoover's and his massive jobs destruction, one can no longer cling to some idealistic, "fair and balanced", gee let's consider the nuances here before jumping to conclusions, nonsensical Bothsiderism anymore.

And the fact that no Repub has proposed, passed or presided over legislation that has produced any of the various record high boom times and historic jobs creation of the past 100 years or so further drives home the by now blatantly obvious reality that we are dealing with a 100 years long pattern that defies all possible nuance, benefit of the doubt or Bothsidersim excuses:

When Dems get their way, America wins in terms of, among other positive things, historic economic expansion, growth and record high jobs creation.

By stark contrast, when Repubs get their way, America loses in terms of severe economic downturns, Great Depressions or Great Recessions and massive jobs destruction.

I appreciate the effort to suggest there might be some interesting nuances that we ought to factor in here and there. But I submit there is no one nuance or a thousand that could possibly alter that unchangeable and iron clad above stated pattern in the past, present or future.

[PVMonger]

I do not think Biden's statement was as widely reported as it should have been: "There is no federal solution. This needs to be solved at the state level."

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/l...-down-covid-19

Again, you will have the usual nonsense, ZH? That is a right wing nut blog, but Biden said what he said.

Will Eih recant his blathering on the pandemic being Trump's fault? Nah. You can quote numbers all day long and show these brain dead Democrats that who was in office did not matter, but they still won't buy it. To me, even though Biden has thrown in the towel, these same douches still believe that all would be well with the pandemic if not for Republicans.

On the supply chain issues, though, that mess is all political, and all the blame should be directed at the Dems. First off, Obama put into law regulations that were passed like 8 years ago but are just enforced today. One of them is that truck drivers can only work 8 hour shifts, and this is sent from trucks via computer to a regulatory agency. So when you have a supply chain crisis and want to move goods: wouldn't it be smart to change that to 10 or 12 hours (which it used to be)? You would think so right? Nothing on this.

The issue in the ports are the trailers that move around the supply containers. The cranes pick up the containers off the ships, but the trailers are what move them around. Obama put in a law that trailers, even ones that were still good, could not be more than 5 years old. The problem is the pandemic interfered with production of trailers, so a lot would put out to pasture while fewer were coming in. Again, there is a pretty simple solution. Allow the older trailers to be inspected for safety and used right? Again, that is not being done.

Domestic trailer production also plummeted due to the end of Trumps tariff on Chinese trailers. Yeah, Biden just got rid of that Trump tax. It seems like a no-brainer to reinstate that tariff but that is not happening either. China is refusing to produce more trailers, and this is China fucking the USA again, and time after time, our government is unable to pivot away because we are so dependent on them.

What was done was a reshuffling the numbers. Now a ship that is further off the coast is not counted. Keep in mind there are thousands of containers on these ships. With 100 ships at 10,000 containers apiece, you are talking about one million containers at sea. That is a staggering number and it is getting worse. A million containers need to be unloaded and put onto trucks and rail. One million!

The unvaccinated idiots (who are mostly Republican) won't get vaccinated, won't wear masks, won't socially distance, are against mandates of any kind other than mandates to not wear masks, to not socially distance and to not get vaccinated.

The only real Federal solution would be to round them all up and incarcerate them in concentration camps. But that's not possible 'cause that's what the fascist MAGA cult would have done. Hence no Federal solution.

The funny thing is that the MAGA cult will poke fun of this yet they have no solutions either, other than howling at the moon.