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12-29-21 02:55 #5749
Posts: 428Great post
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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12-29-21 01:36 #5748
Posts: 1604CNN, Chris Cuomo.
NBC, Matt Lauer, Tom Brokaw.
FUX, Jamie Horowitz, Charles Payne, Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, Judy Slater, Bob Beckel (fired for racist comments), Kimberly Guilfoyle (she left and her accuser was paid $4 million).
Score: CNN 1, NBC 2, FUX 6 or 7.
At least us "socialists" can count. The MAGA cult just makes stuff up.
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12-28-21 20:20 #5747
Posts: 1680Well
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
That said I'll play the devil's advocate for a moment. There's a lot of different measurements when it comes to a president's economic report card. For example if you pick just one while ignoring the others, and beat that drum loud enough then voila! You have an argument, or at least a talking point. But even that doesn't tell us the sorts of jobs created under Carter. How do the numbers hash out when it comes to pay? How many part time? And if there was a recession you can just blame it on the previous guy by focusing on the negative bullet points on his economic resume. This is why so many political arguments involve talking past one another.
Also, what about "Lincoln's Civil War?" Arguably he provoked the armed conflict with his refusal to abandon Ft Sumter, even though the north had withdrawn from other southern forts. Readings of the letters home of southern soldiers reveals more of a local mindset, that they were fighting to repell an invasion with little mention of slavery. Only 25% of southern families owned slaves. Though the slavery question was the clear reason for succession as seen in the minutes of a number of state governments, so any claims that the war wasn't over that are absurd.
There were firebrands on both sides leading up to succession, as well as Constitutional questions on the legality thereof, especially considering that not one southern state supported the election of Lincoln. But since your Republican disasters go all the way back to Lincoln, tell us why you think he was responsible for the war. Should the north have just let the south go?
Happy New Year.
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12-28-21 18:05 #5746
Posts: 3230The latest
I do not think Biden's statement was as widely reported as it should have been: "There is no federal solution. This needs to be solved at the state level."
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/l...-down-covid-19
Again, you will have the usual nonsense, ZH? That is a right wing nut blog, but Biden said what he said.
Will Eih recant his blathering on the pandemic being Trump's fault? Nah. You can quote numbers all day long and show these brain dead Democrats that who was in office did not matter, but they still won't buy it. To me, even though Biden has thrown in the towel, these same douches still believe that all would be well with the pandemic if not for Republicans.
On the supply chain issues, though, that mess is all political, and all the blame should be directed at the Dems. First off, Obama put into law regulations that were passed like 8 years ago but are just enforced today. One of them is that truck drivers can only work 8 hour shifts, and this is sent from trucks via computer to a regulatory agency. So when you have a supply chain crisis and want to move goods: wouldn't it be smart to change that to 10 or 12 hours (which it used to be)? You would think so right? Nothing on this.
The issue in the ports are the trailers that move around the supply containers. The cranes pick up the containers off the ships, but the trailers are what move them around. Obama put in a law that trailers, even ones that were still good, could not be more than 5 years old. The problem is the pandemic interfered with production of trailers, so a lot would put out to pasture while fewer were coming in. Again, there is a pretty simple solution. Allow the older trailers to be inspected for safety and used right? Again, that is not being done.
Domestic trailer production also plummeted due to the end of Trumps tariff on Chinese trailers. Yeah, Biden just got rid of that Trump tax. It seems like a no-brainer to reinstate that tariff but that is not happening either. China is refusing to produce more trailers, and this is China fucking the USA again, and time after time, our government is unable to pivot away because we are so dependent on them.
What was done was a reshuffling the numbers. Now a ship that is further off the coast is not counted. Keep in mind there are thousands of containers on these ships. With 100 ships at 10,000 containers apiece, you are talking about one million containers at sea. That is a staggering number and it is getting worse. A million containers need to be unloaded and put onto trucks and rail. One million!
I was listing to a podcast about where there are supply issues: tennis balls, tires, and cream cheese. The other surprising one is paper. Eih touched on this and said Trump had problems selling a book because of his creating a paper shortage. Of course, that is not true.
This one is funny too. The USA is a next exporter of lumbar so how come we have a paper shortage. The environmentalist whackos have made paper production so cost prohibitive it was cheaper to move production abroad. So again, the solution is to roll things back to where there were no shortages but again for some reason this cannot be done.
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12-28-21 17:08 #5745
Posts: 1068Laughable
Originally Posted by Villainy [View Original Post]
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12-28-21 15:48 #5744
Posts: 1680Well
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
https://fallacies.escepticos.es/inde...to-ad-nauseam/
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12-28-21 15:33 #5743
Posts: 1068Not everyone is a socialist
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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12-28-21 06:50 #5742
Posts: 5452An astounding contrast. As usual, there is no Bothsiderism about it
Elections have consequences. Economic decisions made by those elected have consequences.
Case in point:
Largest Increase In U.S. Poverty Recorded In 2020
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe...h=25d8468132bd
Thanks, Donnie. You saved us a few measly million dollars in 2018 by deciding to defund the CDC and remove all our Pandemic Prevention and Response team members from those Chinese labs against all expert advice and warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous.
Then you compounded that colossal historic mistake by spending almost a year lying about the airborne risks and deadly nature of the virus that predictably emerged and mocking the known effective mitigation efforts, thereby converting a likely manageable regional endemic into the worldwide Trump's Pandemic it is today in all its current and future variants.
Meanwhile, you tried with all your powers on the world stage to discourage anyone and everyone on the planet from bothering to invent a vaccine for it or taking one if any company was foolish enough to waste their time and money inventing one.
By contrast:
Child tax credit lifted 3 million kids from poverty in July
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/25/...y-in-july.html
The new child tax credit does more than just cut poverty
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...t-poverty/amp/
America is substantially reducing poverty among children.
The Biden administrations biggest success has not received enough attention
https://www.economist.com/united-sta...ldren/21804765
Thank you, Joe, Nancy, Chuck and the Dems.
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12-28-21 03:25 #5741
Posts: 5452Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]
"Business has doubled local retailers see big boost in holiday sales
https://www.wdbj7.com/2021/12/27/bus...holiday-sales/
NEW RIVER VALLEY, Va. (WDBJ) - New data from Mastercard SpendingPulse shows holiday sales rose at the fastest pace in 17 years.
Local malls and business owners say theyre seeing similar trends on top of record-breaking numbers.
Business has doubled its--- its at least doubled, said Jeneen Wilson the owner and operator of Primped 365.
Many local retailers report 2021 has been one of the best holiday shopping seasons in a while.
For example, do a search for How Carter's Fed Chairman tamed inflation and then one for Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms and you'll see what I mean.
Oh, on the latter, check out the column at the far right of the Jobs Creation chart labled "Average Annual Increase" per USA president over the past 100 years or so and you might be surprised by that info. I wasn't. But you might be.
Really, it's just amazing how fast and easy it is to be well informed these days.
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12-28-21 02:39 #5740
Posts: 651Fox IS Number 1
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ailes
And we all remember that paragon of virtue. Bill O'Reilly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_O%27Reilly_(political_commentator).
And of course let's not leave out Hannity and Tucker Carlson.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...n-sean-hannity
So yes, Fox News is the number 1 rated cesspool of sexual harassment and abuse. If only the network was as dedicated to honest journalism as it is to getting laid.
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12-28-21 02:17 #5739
Posts: 428Are you kidding me
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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12-28-21 02:09 #5738
Posts: 1068Cancelling Keystone pipeline inflated Biden inflation
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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12-28-21 00:12 #5737
Posts: 1604Nope
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
Why do you continue to fabricate false information and distort words?
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12-28-21 00:03 #5736
Posts: 1604Several questions
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
Second, did the former guy want to make America great? His slogan was "Make America Great Again". See, it is the "again" part that you don't understand. Nobody, and I mean nobody, would object to Make America Great. But the "again" part suggests that America was great once, then got not great, and the former guy wanted to make it great "again". But how far back was America "not great"? Was it not great during Reagan? Was it not great during Bush I? Was it not great during Bush II? Nope. The "again" part of the slogan referred to Obama. A black dude had the temerity to to elected President and the former guy (and his cult) wanted to wipe that stain from the face of America.
Third, what do cult members have against a great America? Why to they want America to fail? The MAGA cult wants things to back to the 50's, preferably the 1850's. Back to when women couldn't vote. Back to when it was legal to own somebody. Back to when LBGTQ people stayed in the closet. That's what MAGA wants.
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12-27-21 23:45 #5735
Posts: 714Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]