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  1. #5596

    To Recap

    In light of the latest reports of Trump's politicization of the coronavirus outbreak that worked beautifully to ensure it would become the historic Trump's Pandemic it became and still is, let's recap this from the beginning.

    Despite his rushing in too little too late in order to falsely claim some credit for what had been researched and planned for decades and only after the USA Stock market crashed in response to the mounting deaths from the already established Trump's Pandemic to merely "brand" the effort to produce vaccines for it as soon as humanly possible (an idea that Trump supporters here now consider shitty anyway), no world leader did more and worked harder than iconic Republican Party so-called potus Donald J. Trump to pave the runway as smoothly as possible for any roundly warned about and predicted potential deadly virus to spread unabated and develop into a worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic that, among its other horrific results, would in all its inevitable variations predictably cripple the entire point and purpose of this website for years to come if not forever:

    Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21C3N5

    Under Donald Trump, key CDC US staff in China fell to 0

    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-china-fell-0/

    According to the CDC, the program in China specifically charged with spotting new infectious diseases went from having four American staff in 2017 to none by 2019.
    Trump says China should have told us about coronavirus. He removed the official meant to do that.
    A US epidemiologist was embedded with the Chinese CDC. The Trump administration discontinued the position


    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...dc-embed-quick

    Nobody on the planet did more and worked harder than iconic Republican Party so-called potus Donald J. Trump to make sure his colossal original sin blunder (see above) would be compounded and made immeasurably worse:

    Trump calls coronavirus Democrats' 'new hoax'

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...-hoax-n1145721

    Trump says he trusts Chinas Xi on coronavirus and the US has it totally under control
    (January 22, 2020)


    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/trum...r-control.html

    Trump, downplaying virus, has mocked wearing masks for months.
    He wore one as he headed to the hospital Friday afternoon.


    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=73392694

    Nobody on the planet did more and worked harder than iconic Republican Party so-called potus Donald J. Trump to discourage anyone from bothering to waste their time and money inventing a vaccine for Trump's Pandemic Virus or to bother taking one if it was invented for no good reason anyway:

    'It's going to disappear':
    A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish


    https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/...mment-tracker/

    Trump Baselessly Claims Coronavirus Will Go Away Without Vaccine

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/tr...thout-vaccine/

    Trump Says Coronavirus Will be Over "Even Without the Vaccines"
    (October 26, 2020)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcVIOujJLng

    And now this latest:

    Trump sought to 'undermine' COVID-19 response, says panel

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ndermine-covid

    ...In interviews with officials and from uncovered emails and other documents, the committee found that the former administration failed to heed warnings about supply shortages, blocked public health officials from speaking publicly and neglected the pandemic response in order to focus on the 2020 presidential election and on promoting the lie that the election was "stolen" from Trump through widespread fraud.
    House oversight committee releases report detailing efforts of Trump administration officials to 'undermine' Covid-19 efforts in US

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/17/p...-19/index.html

    ... The report also laid out how one briefing so angered former President Donald Trump that CDC officials were blocked by the Trump administration for more than three months from conducting public briefings.
    One official, then-CDC National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases Director Dr. Nancy Messonnier, told the committee Trump was "angered" after she gave a briefing on February 25, 2020, that warned about the danger of Covid-19. She told the select subcommittee she felt "upset" after she received calls from then-CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield and then-HHS Secretary Alex Azar about it.
    ...
    Another example of weakened guidance in the report is from Birx, who confirmed to the committee that Dr. Scott Atlas, a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, was involved in changing testing guidance to advise against testing most asymptomatic people even if they were exposed to the virus -- something the report said that is contrary to science-based recommendations. Trump brought on Atlas to the coronavirus task force after seeing him appear on Fox.

    CNN has reached out to Atlas for comment.

  2. #5595
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Democratic douches like him publicized Trump's failure to stop a virus, which was a crock because Trump had nothing to do with viral spreid
    Individually TrumpShit was a super spreader.

    TShit tested positive for Codid-19 on September 26, 2020 and concealed the results for six days until he announced his infection on October 2nd.

    For the six days that TShit lied about having Covid-19, he got steadily sicker and sicker and exposed over 500 people to his viral sliminess.

    Including exposing Joe Biden on their first presidential debate show on September 29th.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    They have also seen not just fit players but fat ass coaches test + for Covid and come back in a week or two and look fine.
    That vaccine really does a great job. Before the vaccine many would have been goners, like Herman Cain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    You cannot make this shit up!
    Or really think about what you write.

  3. #5594
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    Because Biden is incompetent and can't get people vaccinated in a timely manner idiots try to put the blame back on Trump. Americans are all not stupid. I know you are trying to prove different.
    I agree, and the vaccine worked great for the first 3 months. Then it seems like it did nothing at all. Do you remember Aaron Rogers getting blasted by the media for lying about being vaccinated? So he gets Covid and the last few weeks, he has played and never looks better. The media who skewered looks like shit now.

    The notion was that Rogers was putting his teammates at risk. Ha! The NFL players were 94% immunized back in September https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...f-90-or-above/.

    And now there are three games being postponed this week due to Covid outbreaks. https://nypost.com/2021/12/17/nfl-po...d-covid-surge/.

    The only explanation left for the Democratic douches is all NFL players are Republicans and faked their vaccine cards!

    So Biden knows the vaccines are shit. His claim that anything over 220,000 deaths per year is a failed presidency is now coming to bite him in the butt. Democratic douches like him publicized Trump's failure to stop a virus, which was a crock because Trump had nothing to do with viral spread, and he only has one card left, double down on blaming Republicans. So now every day it is the same crap in the liberal media: It's all Republicans fault Covid is not gone! He is banking on the fact that no one looks beyond USA borders to see Covid is raging there.

    So the Republicans and independents have seen how the Dems have done no better with the virus than Trump did, they just pretend to care more. They have seen Aaron Rogers get crushed for not taking the vaccine but saw how well he played and now how everyone has been mum about how shitty the vaccine is. This is the worst Covid has ever been in the NFL despite the vaccination rate.

    They have also seen not just fit players but fat ass coaches test + for Covid and come back in a week or two and look fine.

    Then you have soccer in Europe, and the vaccine rates there are not as high as in the USA but this article says 2 in 3 players are vaccinated. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...lly-vaccinated.

    The American Heart association has published a study showing that Covid vaccines produce heart inflammation and now you have all these soccer players, among the most fit in the world, dropping like flies due to heart issues: https://summit.news/2021/11/09/germa...psed-recently/.

    So it is known that the vaccines cause heart problems and the soccer players are having heart problems but the official link between the two is not known. But do not worry the FDA will release all the safety data on the vaccines in 75 years.

    So people can now see the known Covid sufferers and say "They look fine" and they can see fit soccer players passing out on the field and say "They don't. " and wonder what the fuss is about. In the sports world, it looks like the Covid vaccine is worse than Covid.

    And finally you have that the vaccines are for emergency use allowed, and you have to ask WTF is the emergency? Biden being able to blame Republicans for what he defined as failures? And that is when the anger comes in. This is politicians playing with your body and your health when they do not know what they are doing.

    The ultimate vaccine cowardice now is in 3rd world countries. In an admission their vaccines are not safe, the vaccine manufacturers are so worried about lawsuits they will not vaccinate refugees, effing refugees!: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/r...-fear-lawsuits.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/refuge...ts-2021-12-16/

    You cannot make this shit up!

  4. #5593
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Trump created the need for 3, 4 or 100 vaccines to prevent serious sickness or death from his Pandemic virus. Thankfully, several manufacturers had already spent years researching and studying coronaviruses so they could swing into action and develop those vaccines in defiance of Trump's year long insistence that nobody bother inventing one, much less take one.
    Elvis does not trust the vaccine because Pfizer & Moderna are making a profit.

  5. #5592
    I do not want Joe Biden, or any future federal office holder.

    To obstruct or attempt to undermine free and fair elections.

    It will be necessary to prosecute those who did.

    In order to prevent it from happening in the future.

    From all that's come out in the legitimate press this week in December.

    It's beginning to look a lot like RICO.

    Everywhere you go.

  6. #5591

    Wait, what?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    The fact is Trump developed all 3 vaccines under his presidency. Even fake news admits this. Even democrats who first refused to take these vaccines admit it. Only a fool would try to dispute it. Because Biden is incompetent and can't get people vaccinated in a timely manner idiots try to put the blame back on Trump. Americans are all not stupid. I know you are trying to prove different.
    Your claim that Democrats like Biden and Harris refused to get vaccinated because they were developed on trump's watch are BS. https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...accines-not-v/.

    You agreed with Elvis when he said that Republicans are under no obligation to help Biden and get vaccinated. In other words, you support willful ignorance. Now, you say that Biden is to blame because he can't get Republicans to get vaccinated? If Republicans are too willfully ignorant to get vaccinated, that's their fault, not Biden's. Biden has led them to water. If they won't drink, it isn't Biden's fault byut rather the fault of everybody pushing ludicrous theories sthan only Republicans believe.

    Since you believe that all three COVID vaccines are worthless, you are saying that the Mango Mussolini developed three worthless COVID vaccines. That was on trump.

  7. #5590
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    To further state the obvious, if a horse that's been led to a trough of water turns his head away, refuses to drink it and dies of thirst for lack of water, you can't blame the cowboy who led him to the water for his death.
    We know when it is time to get a less tired horse.

  8. #5589
    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    Nobody is blaming anybody for the successful dispensing of vaccines to all the people who matter in the United States.

    Sane people.

    We are happy with the timely manner of Joe Biden.

    TrumpShip, throughout his term in office was better known for making grand promises he never would deliver.
    I am looking forward to the next election.

    With maybe somewhere between 2 to 4% of republicans committing suicide by Covid, the next election should get good results.

    Lots of republicans are very very old.

    So it could wind up even being better than my educated guess.

  9. #5588

    Ted Cruz and other republicans are making America weaker!

    Ted Cruz has been abusing the process (he's an abuser) of senate obstruction towards approval of ambassador nominations.

    He's been using his big fat ass to pitch for his leading role in clogging efforts.

    Schumer's going to make him push them out.

    Yesterday he scheduled over 20 ambassadorships for voting.

    If Ted Cruz wants to shit over the whole process, he's welcome to spend the next three weeks doing that and missing Christmas.

    We need our ambassadors to represent out interests around the world.

    Due to obstruction, Joe Biden has only received 15% confirmation of his large number of current nominations.

    At the same point in their Presidential terms, TShit had 73% confirmed, Barack Obama had 75% confirmed, and George W. Bush had 90% confirmed.

  10. #5587
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    The fact is Trump developed all 3 vaccines under his presidency. Even fake news admits this. Even democrats who first refused to take these vaccines admit it. Only a fool would try to dispute it. Because Biden is incompetent and can't get people vaccinated in a timely manner idiots try to put the blame back on Trump. Americans are all not stupid. I know you are trying to prove different.
    To further state the obvious, if a horse that's been led to a trough of water turns his head away, refuses to drink it and dies of thirst for lack of water, you can't blame the cowboy who led him to the water for his death. It's the same with Repubs who fell for Trump's con about the dangers of Covid being a Hoax and his nearly year long assurance that it is disappearing and will go away without a vaccine.

    Trump created the need for 3, 4 or 100 vaccines to prevent serious sickness or death from his Pandemic virus. Thankfully, several manufacturers had already spent years researching and studying coronaviruses so they could swing into action and develop those vaccines in defiance of Trump's year long insistence that nobody bother inventing one, much less take one.

  11. #5586
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    The fact is Trump developed all 3 vaccines under his presidency. Even fake news admits this. Even democrats who first refused to take these vaccines admit it. Only a fool would try to dispute it. Because Biden is incompetent and can't get people vaccinated in a timely manner idiots try to put the blame back on Trump.
    Nobody is blaming anybody for the successful dispensing of vaccines to all the people who matter in the United States.

    Sane people.

    We are happy with the timely manner of Joe Biden.

    TrumpShip, throughout his term in office was better known for making grand promises he never would deliver.

  12. #5585
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    EihTooms here is like Bagdad Bob. His response to Biden being a failure by Biden's own terms is all the Covid deaths are due to Trump. Yeah, Democrats are not responsible for anything even what they define as failure. Thing is you know if he felt like his checks were being sent by Republicans versus Democrats, he would change his story in a second. As for the latest bill, we should all be grateful the Democrats are going to spend our money better than we can. You just wait and see..
    I took one for the team and clicked on those links to see just how loony and unsubstantiated the nonsense was in them. Yep, they were just as loony and unsubstantiated as we would have suspected if not more.

    Aside from that, can you explain the nature of this Biden failure of which you speak? Biden defined the failure re Covid as in being "responsible" for deaths, right? So how is Biden "responsible" for laying the groundwork for converting a likely manageable endemic viral episode into the full blown Trump's Pandemic it became and still is in all its new and challenging variants? He didn't do that, Trump did.

    Or were you referring to the other winger-defined Biden "failure" in getting the life-saving vaccines (the ones Trump spent all of 2020 trying his best as the so-called potus to convince the world, which includes Africa by the way, not to bother inventing a vaccine for that Democrat Party Hoax virus or taking one if some company is foolish enough to waste their time and money inventing one since his Pandemic was already disappearing and will go away without a vaccine anyway) free and easily available to every American?

    Or does it also include the winger-defined Biden "failures" that his economic stewardship and legislation have in just his first 10 months recovered and produced triple the number of USA jobs that Trump, Bush2 and Bush1 produced in their entire presidencies combined?

    That wages have increased for USA jobs under Biden more than they have in decades?

    That child poverty in America has been reduced by almost 50% under Biden?

    That annual Real GDP Growth under Biden is on track to hit 6%, greater than it has grown in decades?

    That the USA stock market, far from crashing into a Bear Market as Two Bear Market Crashes In Just Four Years Trump incorrectly predicted would happen as soon as Biden whipped his butt in a Trump-defined landslide in a free and fair election, has been at or near its all time record closing high for months in one of the steadiest Bull Market rally climbs ever since Biden took office?

    Or do you simply mean the consensus of Biden's job approval poll ratings was for a while almost but not quite as low as Trump's was for his entire first year in office?

    I'm also not sure what the "checks" are that you suggest I am getting from Democrats. The only checks I have gotten from the USA government lately were the same Trump's Pandemic and Economic Disaster Emergency Relief Checks most Americans got starting in 2020 under Repub Trump and then in 2021 under Dem Biden.

  13. #5584

    Fact is

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Trump loves the poorly educated who followed his order to vote twice for him in 2020, sent him money to apply to his debt of a Billion Dollars or so and then fell for his year long lie that his Pandemic Virus was a hoax, that it was already disappearing and will go away without a vaccine (therefore, nobody should bother inventing a vaccine or taking one) and then conveniently die before he and Melania have to come within a barge pole distance of those "disgusting" people.
    The fact is Trump developed all 3 vaccines under his presidency. Even fake news admits this. Even democrats who first refused to take these vaccines admit it. Only a fool would try to dispute it. Because Biden is incompetent and can't get people vaccinated in a timely manner idiots try to put the blame back on Trump. Americans are all not stupid. I know you are trying to prove different.

  14. #5583

    Well done

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, well, they never let truth get in the way of data. It is funny Twitter just banned anyone from saying that the vaccinated can spread the virus. Did you notice they keep trying to force that issue?

    There is a great bit here on the issues with the vaccine: https://peckford42.wordpress.com/202...take-the-shot/.

    It is funny how the term EUA (emergency use allowed) is just ignored by everyone. The safety data required for FDA approval does not exist. See the link: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...***-mccullough.

    So Pfizer is making $36 billion with a vaccine whose technology was paid for by taxpayers, and they want to keep giving boosters. Gee, I wonder why. It cannot be for money. No, Pfizer would never do that. Do you get the idea the pandemic will be over when Pfizer quits making money?

    Oh wait on that safety issue. "Pfizer has the track record of paying out the largest ($2. 3 Billion) settlement in USA History for illegally promoting drugs known to have dangers."

    EihTooms here is like Bagdad Bob. His response to Biden being a failure by Biden's own terms is all the Covid deaths are due to Trump. Yeah, Democrats are not responsible for anything even what they define as failure. Thing is you know if he felt like his checks were being sent by Republicans versus Democrats, he would change his story in a second. As for the latest bill, we should all be grateful the Democrats are going to spend our money better than we can. You just wait and see...
    Well done. Good information!

  15. #5582
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    I got vaccinated and when I filled out the forms they did not ask if I was a democrat or republican. When the nurse gave me the shot she did not ask me if I was democrat or Republican. When I left no one knew my party affiliation. There is no one who knows how many democrats and how many republicans are vaccinated. Prove your lie or admit it is a lie. Democrat leaders like to blame republicans for everything with no facts and here is another example of their lie and your lie.
    Yeah, well, they never let truth get in the way of data. It is funny Twitter just banned anyone from saying that the vaccinated can spread the virus. Did you notice they keep trying to force that issue?

    There is a great bit here on the issues with the vaccine: https://peckford42.wordpress.com/202...take-the-shot/.

    It is funny how the term EUA (emergency use allowed) is just ignored by everyone. The safety data required for FDA approval does not exist. See the link: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...***-mccullough.

    So Pfizer is making $36 billion with a vaccine whose technology was paid for by taxpayers, and they want to keep giving boosters. Gee, I wonder why. It cannot be for money. No, Pfizer would never do that. Do you get the idea the pandemic will be over when Pfizer quits making money?

    Oh wait on that safety issue. "Pfizer has the track record of paying out the largest ($2. 3 Billion) settlement in USA History for illegally promoting drugs known to have dangers."

    EihTooms here is like Bagdad Bob. His response to Biden being a failure by Biden's own terms is all the Covid deaths are due to Trump. Yeah, Democrats are not responsible for anything even what they define as failure. Thing is you know if he felt like his checks were being sent by Republicans versus Democrats, he would change his story in a second. As for the latest bill, we should all be grateful the Democrats are going to spend our money better than we can. You just wait and see.

    PVMonger actually shockingly admits Biden made a mistake then blames Biden's failure on Republicans. Why would Biden or any Democrat think Republicans would help him? It seems like there is now a daily fiasco with the vaccines. First, Twitter banned anyone who said the vaccinated could spread Covid. Then youtube banned the doctor on the Joe Rogan shows. The doctor talked about how the vaccines are EUA and it is insanity to talk about any therapy without analyzing risk and benefit. Yeah, that was "controversial" and youtube banned that conversation.

    And the variants are due to Republicans? I never knew how many Republicans lived in South Africa where Omicron began. Did you?

    That is the thing about Democratic. Time and again, all they talk about is lives and safety, but they are the party of lawyers, and when you really dig down, it really is not safety but money in the pockets of lawyers or Democrats that really matter.

    Here is an essay that someone I have great respect for wrote when going to a "science" conference: https://freemansperspective.com/my-a...hange-central/#more-11249.

    I will quote the last line: If, tomorrow, new research emerged, proving beyond any shadow of a doubt that global warming was false and if people had the emotional strength to accept it the crowd at these shows would not be ashamed. Rather, they'd stand up, look around at each other, and say, "Well, what should we do next?

    It is the same with the vaccine. Censorship and these unending strings of boosters will lead to a non-public admission of failure at some point. The public is tired of this if we just do X, all will be well crap just to find out that there is a why, Z, and now an omicron. At some point, all the fear mongering will be forgotten by most. Remember flatten the curve? The media is doing all it can to have those three words banned too.

    He does one on medicine as well: https://freemansperspective.com/the-...n-of-medicine/#more-11301.

    One quote: At this point, if you don't include "conspiracy theory" research, you're more or less stuck with Orwell's Ministry of Truth. Sad but mostly true.

    He is of course right. If you look at the efficacy data on ivermectin versus the vaccine in virus prophylaxis, ivermectin wins in a landslide but you would have to go to censored sources to find that.

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