American Politics

[EihTooms]

I am looking forward to the republican party destroying itself this decade defending this Shit record.

We can hope. Unfortunately, the Mainstream Media, always pro Repub when it comes to promoting False Equivalencies, Bothsiderism and Lies about the easily researched record of results for each side in order help their darling Repubs win elections, has already long "forgotten" at least 2 of those 3 major Trump contributions to converting a likely manageable endemic in a region of China into the historic Pandemic that it became.

You know, the spin is that the Pandemic simply "happened" to that poor Donnie feller and spoiled an otherwise sterling so-called presidency and "best economy ever." He was just "unlucky" to be there when it happened. It's just another Once In 100 Years Disaster that, miraculously, only happen under Repub stewardship. Not his fault!

Which is total pro-Repub bullshit all around.

By association, Mainstream Media is letting every Repub off the hook for supporting and defending their Dear Leader's "success" in that effort every step of the way and every day since. And the next Repub in the Oval Office would do it again and again with full support from his entire Party in a heartbeat.

And why wouldn't they? After all, as Mainstream Media have insisted during every Repub Recession Great and Small, every historic Repub Bear Market Crash, every Repub Massive USA Job Destruction as well as every Great Dem Economic Recovery, Expansion, historic Bull Market Run and record high USA Jobs Creation of my lifetime and long before, "The Republican Party is better at handling the economy (truly the most critical issue in any election) than The Democratic Party." lol

[Paulie97]

The world is full of 40 and 50 somethings that think they are in good health but are not. Ask any doctor that does thorough check ups. This especially applies to the obese and roid heads, but some just have bad genes and are about shot, ticking time bombs by that age. So many never see 70, Covid or no Covid.

[Paulie97]

So you admit you were 100% wrong about everyone who takes a vaccine for measles and other viruses is fully protected for life.

Oops.

No surprise, you're also 100% wrong about how the COVID-19 vaccines work.

He reads what he wants to read and goes where he wants to read it. Such is the maintenance of ignorance.

[Paulie97]

With covid, as we have seen from the studies in Israel and UK, the spread of the virus increased as vaccination went up. There is more chance of getting it now than there was before the "vaccine" went out. And it's a hell of a lot more than one in a million.Oops.

Spread increased due to the rise of variants not accounted for in the vaccines, yet effectiveness remained high against serious illness and death. The variants are being accounted for in booster shots, that soon will be widely available to all over 40 in the states, not sure of the timeline in Europe. But you are spreading false information by omission, as is typical from the fake right wingnut media.

As to all those under retirement age turning out fine, that's another lie as per CDC records posted here on many occasions. Though lower in numbers there have been large numbers of deaths of those under 65, especially among those who play machismo at home and wait way too long to seek help. Regeneron is a powerful weapon but it must be started early. Plus there is "long Covid" that effects all ages, so more falsehoods.

As to your mongering, no one really cares about that in this context. There is pussy for sale everywhere, probably within your own city. May cost you little more, so buy a little less or work a little harder, or go to Colombia.

As to Thailand and the Philippines, the former, unlike Colombia which is doing great, has had a very slow vaccine rollout. The Philippines is at around 50%, like us in the states. That isn't good enough.

As to leftists and mongering, such criticisms are ironic coming from family values, "heritage" pro-life God and country conservatives. Lolol It's uncanny how many of these cheat on their wives and dump and run barebacking hookers. This as you openly mock people of color while going to their countries to buy sex from them. Nonethess many left leaning Americans like me believe these choices are up to the women. In the countries I go to, Costa Rica and Colombia, at least 95% of the young women are surviving well enough outside prostitution, thus those who go into the industry typically do so by choice, a choice they should have if they are of age.

So we got a whole lotta "oops" going on here with Chris, as we have come to expect as he lacks research and critical thinking skills.

[SouthEaster]

You absolutely, positively do NOT want to go to Mada. Ever. It is hard and expensive to get to. Nobody speaks English. The infrastructure sucks big time. Health care is nonexistent The roads are absolute shit. The airlines are notorious for cancellations and delays and everybody sees you as a walking ATM. Stay away, stay far away.

[PVMonger]

1200 measles cases in an entire year. The majority unvaccinated. Let's say maybe 200 of those cases were vaccinated.

What proportion of Americans are vaccinated against measles? This link - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/measles.htm - would suggest it is around 90%.

So out of more than 300 million vaccinated Americans, 200 got measles. There is literally less than a one in a million chance of getting measles if you are vaccinated. I like those odds.

With covid, as we have seen from the studies in Israel and UK, the spread of the virus increased as vaccination went up. There is more chance of getting it now than there was before the "vaccine" went out. And it's a hell of a lot more than one in a million.

Oops.

You yourself said that the measles vaccine provided 100% effectiveness for life. Now, when you are proven wrong, you say "less than 1 in a million."

Well, darn. Is zero more or less than "one in a million"?

[PVMonger]

A similar number to the number of covid deaths with no comorbidities below the age of 70.

To return to the point, measles has been all but eradicated by the measles vaccine. How many people die or get seriously sick of measles these days? Virtually zero. That is a successful vaccine.

If the number of measles cases and deaths rose after the measles vaccine had become widespread, as has happened after the covid "vaccine", the measles vaccine would not have been considered successful.

Unfortunately, because we live in leftist globohomo clownworld, the fake media and its acolytes such as the dem douches on this board claim that the greater spread of the virus after the vaccine rollout is proof that the vaccine works.

LOL.

Really? No COVID deaths without co-morbidities? WTF have you been smoking? What a bunch of hooey. https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/ch...idities-247817.

But what else to expect from somebody who supports the "I love the uneducated" former guy.

[ScatManDoo]

Trump's Pandemic virus won't be the last deadly virus that spreads to endemic levels in a region of the world and then COULD spread to a pandemic level that cripples international travel for mongering and tourism for years afterwards.

All it takes is for world leaders to defund and dismantle the systems that monitor, respond to and prevent such things from happening against all strong expert advice not to do something so stupid and dangerous, for the early signs and warnings to be ignored and lied about, for the known mitigation measures to be mocked, ridiculed and discouraged, all of which Trump did to create the pandemic we are enduring today.

I am looking forward to the republican party destroying itself this decade defending this Shit record.

[EihTooms]

Imagine someone who can't define a "woman" calling someone else a wacko.

Look at what is happening to our hobby. Nearly 2 years into the covid hysteria, it's clear that healthy people under retirement age will be fine.

And yet are we able to travel and enjoy ourselves? Nope. And now they are pushing for exciting new lockdowns, travel shutdowns and destruction of liberties this winter. I was planning to go to Madagascar in summer 2020. Will that ever happen? SE Asia is destroyed for mongers: read the Angeles City and Pattaya forums.

Frankly I'm surprised leftist democrats would even be on this board. Surely you are exercising western patriarchal oppression over vulnerable brown bodies, as your hero AOC would say.

Trump's Pandemic virus won't be the last deadly virus that spreads to endemic levels in a region of the world and then COULD spread to a pandemic level that cripples international travel for mongering and tourism for years afterwards.

All it takes is for world leaders to defund and dismantle the systems that monitor, respond to and prevent such things from happening against all strong expert advice not to do something so stupid and dangerous, for the early signs and warnings to be ignored and lied about, for the known mitigation measures to be mocked, ridiculed and discouraged, all of which Trump did to create the pandemic we are enduring today.

It isn't a matter of "if" a POTUS will be faced with those choices and challenges again, only "when."

It could be 5 years from now, 5 months from now or 5 minutes from now.

When that moment arrives, would you prefer that a Trumpian Republican (the only kind with a chance for the nomination) or a Democrat be sitting in the Oval Office having already decided whether or not it is worth it to keep those systems funded and staffed and then deciding how to respond to the intel about a spreading threat?

For anyone on this site who wants to engage in international travel for the purpose of sex (or anything else) as much, often, freely and easily as possible in his lifetime, sorry, there is only one possible choice. And it sure as hell isn't the Trumpian Republican.

[EihTooms]

1200 measles cases in an entire year. The majority unvaccinated. Let's say maybe 200 of those cases were vaccinated.

What proportion of Americans are vaccinated against measles? This link - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/measles.htm - would suggest it is around 90%.

So out of more than 300 million vaccinated Americans, 200 got measles. There is literally less than a one in a million chance of getting measles if you are vaccinated. I like those odds.

With covid, as we have seen from the studies in Israel and UK, the spread of the virus increased as vaccination went up. There is more chance of getting it now than there was before the "vaccine" went out. And it's a hell of a lot more than one in a million.

Oops.

So you admit you were 100% wrong about everyone who takes a vaccine for measles and other viruses is fully protected for life.

Oops.

No surprise, you're also 100% wrong about how the COVID-19 vaccines work.

[ScatManDoo]

Frankly I'm surprised leftist democrats would even be on this board. Surely you are exercising western patriarchal oppression over vulnerable brown bodies,

Everybody needs a hobby.

[Chris P]

Here it is, folks! Every whacko COVID conspiracy theory all in one place.

Imagine someone who can't define a "woman" calling someone else a wacko.

Look at what is happening to our hobby. Nearly 2 years into the covid hysteria, it's clear that healthy people under retirement age will be fine.

And yet are we able to travel and enjoy ourselves? Nope. And now they are pushing for exciting new lockdowns, travel shutdowns and destruction of liberties this winter. I was planning to go to Madagascar in summer 2020. Will that ever happen? SE Asia is destroyed for mongers: read the Angeles City and Pattaya forums.

Frankly I'm surprised leftist democrats would even be on this board. Surely you are exercising western patriarchal oppression over vulnerable brown bodies, as your hero AOC would say.

[Chris P]

Shocker! Some people who have been vaccinated against measles and chicken pox STILL get measles and chicken pox!

Measles Cases and Outbreaks:
CDC updates this page weekly
https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html
You see the word "majority", right there? That means "the greater number" (but not "all").

1200 measles cases in an entire year. The majority unvaccinated. Let's say maybe 200 of those cases were vaccinated.

What proportion of Americans are vaccinated against measles? This link - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/measles.htm - would suggest it is around 90%.

So out of more than 300 million vaccinated Americans, 200 got measles. There is literally less than a one in a million chance of getting measles if you are vaccinated. I like those odds.

With covid, as we have seen from the studies in Israel and UK, the spread of the virus increased as vaccination went up. There is more chance of getting it now than there was before the "vaccine" went out. And it's a hell of a lot more than one in a million.

Oops.

[Chris P]

I almost never post in this thread because most who post here are way past considering any intelligent conversation about what the real issues are and the best ways to solve them. They just want to bash and complain about the other side.

Very true. I attempted to find common ground and point out that the current wrongheaded democrat / globalist policies will severely impact our mongering hobby. The dem threw it back in my face and continued to unthinkingly attack.

But I am not writing for them. I am writing for the sensible majority of people like you, who don't bother to post because of the rabid, hateful reaction of the leftists, but nevertheless takes note of the debate.

[Chris P]

Thanks for playing a completely different game.

By the way, how many measles deaths per year occurred in the USA before the vaccine? I'll bet you don't know, do you?

Less than 600 every year out of 3-4 million cases every year. https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html.

But I digress. Were those measles deaths "of measles" or "with measles"?

A similar number to the number of covid deaths with no comorbidities below the age of 70.

To return to the point, measles has been all but eradicated by the measles vaccine. How many people die or get seriously sick of measles these days? Virtually zero. That is a successful vaccine.

If the number of measles cases and deaths rose after the measles vaccine had become widespread, as has happened after the covid "vaccine", the measles vaccine would not have been considered successful.

Unfortunately, because we live in leftist globohomo clownworld, the fake media and its acolytes such as the dem douches on this board claim that the greater spread of the virus after the vaccine rollout is proof that the vaccine works.

LOL.