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09-25-21 06:00 #4841
Posts: 3225Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/o...rus-trump.html
So you keep spreading this pro-government crap that the virus can be contained as long as we March in lockstep and do whatever the government says.
It has been nearly 18 months now and everyone is sick to the death of this crap and we have concluded governments do not know what the fuck they are talking about. They have used this as a means to achieve fame, control, power, and wealth, and smart people see that.
But you don't. You do not get viruses that survive in other species never will be eradicated. See the link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...g/animals.html#text=%E2%80%A2%20 Recent%20 experimental%20 research%20 shows, infected%20 with%20 the%20 virus.
Recent experimental research shows that many mammals, including cats, dogs, bank voles, ferrets, fruit bats, hamsters, mink, pigs, rabbits, racoon dogs, tree shrews, and white-tailed deer can be infected with the virus. Cats, ferrets, fruit bats, hamsters, racoon dogs, and white-tailed deer can also spread the infection to other animals of the same species in laboratory settings.
Investigations found that mink from a Michigan farm and a small number of people were infected with SARS-CoV-2 that contained unique mink-related mutations (changes in the virus's genetic material). This suggests mink-to-human spread might have occurred.
Finding these mutations in mink on the Michigan farm is not unexpected because they have been seen before in mink from farms in the Netherlands and Denmark, and also in people linked to mink farms worldwide.
So I tell you what, GDreams, you Dictatorial Democratic douche, how about you see about getting minks to social distance, wash their hands, wear masks and get vaccinated? And after that, you work on all the other animals. And once you achieve that with minks and all the other animals, then you come tell us what to do? Better get to work!
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09-25-21 03:32 #4840
Posts: 443Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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09-25-21 03:25 #4839
Posts: 690Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
So Trump spent other peoples money to direct funds into existing programs to develop Covid Vaccines. Trump could not even read a medical research paper yet alone move heaven and earth to have a vaccine developed.
Democrats would have leveraged off the same programs to achieve the same thing because that is why we fund Government departments to orchestrate these types of programs. Given its the blue states where the majority of tech and entrepreneurs reside and get support from democratic governments, you should be grateful for democrats who do this for you, unlike the red states who grow stuff and dig stuff thanks to huge government bailouts and tax breaks.
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09-25-21 03:24 #4838
Posts: 5451Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
So your very strong counter argument to my actual links detailing Trump's repeated assertions that his Pandemic WAS going away "WITHOUT a vaccine!" for, at minimum, 10-11 months (right up to within days of the November 2020 election) after he learned about the threat of such a Pandemic possibly developing if only a so-called potus helped it along by word and deed was that in February 2020 when he said it will probably be gone by April...he REALLY meant April 2030, April 2040, April 2050 or something like that after several million Americans died from it without anyone bothering to invent a vaccine for it, right?
Well, damn. I guess I wasn't in tune with the Trump/Repub "nuance" on the whole thing.
I would call those repeated assertions deadly, shockingly irresponsible, self-serving lies that would only discourage anyone from bothering to waste their time and money inventing a vaccine for it, much less taking any unnecessary risk, however tiny, in taking a vaccine for it.
But, by golly, you put your conservative Repub mind to it and managed to convince yourself those early and often repeated assertions right up to just days before the November 2020 election were kinda' sorta' "true" and even heroically "helpful" to getting a vaccine invented and then taken asap. Impressive.
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09-25-21 02:19 #4837
Posts: 1115Spot On
Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
"Voter Fraud Forensic Audit", from the Cyber Ninjas, what a joke! But I got to give them brownie points, on taking the legal art of fleecing the American public, to a whole new level.
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09-25-21 01:11 #4836
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Trump stated that the pandemic would end even without the vaccine, which is true. Every pandemic ends. The Spanish flu ended, despite being vastly more virulent and damaging than covid.
But Trump moved heaven and earth to get the vaccine developed and implemented within a year. We all know that if the do-nothing democrats had been there, it would have taken five.
(Frankly, if the democrats had been in power, the media wouldn't even have made an issue of covid and just written it off as the flu, given that almost everyone who dies with it is over 80 and / or has another comorbidity which would have done away with them anyway. The entire hysteria was just another massively exaggerated fake anti-Trump psy-op).
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09-25-21 00:29 #4835
Posts: 690Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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09-24-21 23:54 #4834
Posts: 6420A Full Statistical Analysis
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...ace-ethnicity/
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09-24-21 23:27 #4833
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
White evangelicals constitute a similar proportion of the US population to blacks: somewhere between 15 and 20%. Just as approximately 90% of the black vote goes to the democrats, around 90% of the white evangelical vote goes to the republicans.
So the groups are comparable. And blacks have the lower vaccination rate of the two. Naturally, the fake news and dem douches ignore that in their never-ending attempts to attack white people. Kind of like how they focus their attacks on the Second Amendment against law-abiding white conservative rural and suburban long gun owners, when the vast majority of illegal shootings and killings are carred out by minorities in ghettoes.
The left and fake media never let reality get in the way of their false narrative.
As to "overriding vaccine protections", as has already been established, vaxed people can catch and spread covid just like non-vaxed. See Oscar de la Hoya, double-vaxed but forced to pull out of his boxing comeback because he got covid.
All the vaccine does is somewhat reduce symptoms. It does not prevent contraction or passing on of the virus. In short, it does not work and Fauci lied (again).
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09-24-21 21:36 #4832
Posts: 3225Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
First, mandates are not justifiable for the Covid vaccine when they do not work to prevent transmission.
Second, given the risks and benefits of the vaccine, no one has any right to impose their beliefs on anyone else.
You douches really do want to give the vaccine via blow dart, and you just pretend like the side effects do not exist, that vaccinating everyone is going to make us go back to 2018 when no one wore masks, and Biden will be celebrated as a hero. Sorry even if you could do that and vaccinate everyone, that is not going to happen. These vaccines, which started with so much promise, really have been a disappointment.
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09-24-21 20:31 #4831
Posts: 5451Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
Including the repeated recounts in Georgia, this one in Arizona and elsewhere, these pathetic Repubs have had to experience Biden kicking Trump's butt in an election landslide a half a dozen times so far.
Trump isn't doing it just for his ego and the sadistic thrill of making total fools of everyone who voted for him, although that is no doubt a big part of it. The dude obviously really badly needs the cash flow.
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09-24-21 20:15 #4830
Posts: 5451Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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09-24-21 19:57 #4829
Posts: 5451Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Trump returns to public campaigning, falsely claiming that the virus that infected him is disappearing
Oct. 10, 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f1a_story.html
It's going to disappear':
A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...mment-tracker/
"The vaccine will end the pandemic. But its ending anyway. I mean, they go crazy when I say it. Its going to peter out and its going to end. But were going to help the end and were gonna make it a lot faster with the vaccine and with the therapeutics and frankly with the cures."
- President Trump, October 15, 2020
"Even without the vaccine, the pandemics going to end. Its gonna run its course. Its gonna end. Theyll go crazy. He said without the vaccine watch, itll be a headline tomorrow. These people are crazy. No, its running its course."
- President Trump, October 16, 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273
He pocketed that info, did not discuss it publicly. Obviously, that meant zero promotion pf a vaccine or suggestion one would ever be needed.
By February, Trump was already predicting it would disappear any day now.
Yeah, I'm going to call November 2019 to October 2020 a year of dismissing any reason for someone to bother inventingna vaccine for it.
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09-24-21 19:43 #4828
Posts: 1604So what
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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09-24-21 19:33 #4827
Posts: 1604Oops
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
What is the likelihood of the "mask mandate prohibition" surviving the line item veto? About as likely as a Republican giving a hoot about anybody other than themselves.