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09-24-21 23:27 #4833
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
White evangelicals constitute a similar proportion of the US population to blacks: somewhere between 15 and 20%. Just as approximately 90% of the black vote goes to the democrats, around 90% of the white evangelical vote goes to the republicans.
So the groups are comparable. And blacks have the lower vaccination rate of the two. Naturally, the fake news and dem douches ignore that in their never-ending attempts to attack white people. Kind of like how they focus their attacks on the Second Amendment against law-abiding white conservative rural and suburban long gun owners, when the vast majority of illegal shootings and killings are carred out by minorities in ghettoes.
The left and fake media never let reality get in the way of their false narrative.
As to "overriding vaccine protections", as has already been established, vaxed people can catch and spread covid just like non-vaxed. See Oscar de la Hoya, double-vaxed but forced to pull out of his boxing comeback because he got covid.
All the vaccine does is somewhat reduce symptoms. It does not prevent contraction or passing on of the virus. In short, it does not work and Fauci lied (again).
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09-24-21 21:36 #4832
Posts: 3223Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
First, mandates are not justifiable for the Covid vaccine when they do not work to prevent transmission.
Second, given the risks and benefits of the vaccine, no one has any right to impose their beliefs on anyone else.
You douches really do want to give the vaccine via blow dart, and you just pretend like the side effects do not exist, that vaccinating everyone is going to make us go back to 2018 when no one wore masks, and Biden will be celebrated as a hero. Sorry even if you could do that and vaccinate everyone, that is not going to happen. These vaccines, which started with so much promise, really have been a disappointment.
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09-24-21 20:31 #4831
Posts: 5447Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
Including the repeated recounts in Georgia, this one in Arizona and elsewhere, these pathetic Repubs have had to experience Biden kicking Trump's butt in an election landslide a half a dozen times so far.
Trump isn't doing it just for his ego and the sadistic thrill of making total fools of everyone who voted for him, although that is no doubt a big part of it. The dude obviously really badly needs the cash flow.
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09-24-21 20:15 #4830
Posts: 5447Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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09-24-21 19:57 #4829
Posts: 5447Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Trump returns to public campaigning, falsely claiming that the virus that infected him is disappearing
Oct. 10, 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f1a_story.html
It's going to disappear':
A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020...mment-tracker/
"The vaccine will end the pandemic. But its ending anyway. I mean, they go crazy when I say it. Its going to peter out and its going to end. But were going to help the end and were gonna make it a lot faster with the vaccine and with the therapeutics and frankly with the cures."
- President Trump, October 15, 2020
"Even without the vaccine, the pandemics going to end. Its gonna run its course. Its gonna end. Theyll go crazy. He said without the vaccine watch, itll be a headline tomorrow. These people are crazy. No, its running its course."
- President Trump, October 16, 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273
He pocketed that info, did not discuss it publicly. Obviously, that meant zero promotion pf a vaccine or suggestion one would ever be needed.
By February, Trump was already predicting it would disappear any day now.
Yeah, I'm going to call November 2019 to October 2020 a year of dismissing any reason for someone to bother inventingna vaccine for it.
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09-24-21 19:43 #4828
Posts: 1604So what
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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09-24-21 19:33 #4827
Posts: 1604Oops
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
What is the likelihood of the "mask mandate prohibition" surviving the line item veto? About as likely as a Republican giving a hoot about anybody other than themselves.
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09-24-21 18:21 #4826
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Nursing home empty beds looked good initially, but we now know that was a colossal misstep.
I doubt Whitmer thought ahead all the way to the conclusion of depopulating her political opposition.
But this is good to know for the future planning when the final nails to the GOP party's coffin is ready after just a few more years of TrumpShit.
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09-24-21 15:26 #4825
Posts: 1604Vaccines
The rightwingnuts here keep trying to convince us that the COVID vaccines don't work because some fully vaccinated individuals get COVID. Or that the COVID vaccine is worse than other vaccines which provide lifelong protection from disease.
My "medical credentials" are the same as 99.9% of the people reading this. None. However, I do know how to research.
So let's dispel the second myth first: that other vaccines provide lifelong immunity. A quick look at the chart in the attached article ought to quickly dispel that fantasy: https://www.immune.org.nz/vaccines/e...-effectiveness A quote from this article will take us to our second lie, that the vaccines don't work because they don't provide 100% protection: "No vaccine is 100% effective".
That's right, boys and girls! No vaccine is 100% effective. ".
But wait, you say. The media always talk about "efficacy" not "effectiveness". This might confuse others, too. Because there's a difference between the two. Efficacy is a "clinical trial" word and effectiveness refers to the "real world". This quote says it better than I can: "Volunteers taking part in vaccine clinical trials often undergo close monitoring. The trial team is usually aware of the participants' general health and any relevant health conditions. Participants usually report any side effects and may fill out daily symptom monitoring diaries. Many clinical trials have exclusion criteria such as pregnancy, particular health conditions, and age. Trials involving experimental vaccines rarely include children or seniors until scientists have collected a significant amount of safety data to protect these groups from potential harm. Vaccine efficacy only provides information about how well a vaccine works under the conditions of the clinical trial. Scientists usually base it on factors that they can quantify, such as numbers of laboratory-confirmed cases of COVID-19. But the ideal conditions of a clinical trial do not necessarily reflect what is happening in the real world outside of clinical trials. Vaccine effectiveness tells us how well a vaccine works under real-world conditions once people outside of clinical trials receive the vaccine. Many factors can influence how a vaccine performs outside of clinical trials. One of these is the health of those receiving the vaccine. Underlying health conditions can affect vaccine effectiveness. Another factor is how the disease-causing pathogen changes with time. The viruses that cause the flu are prone to mutations that make vaccines less effective. Vaccine developers update the flu shot every year to try to achieve a good match to the most prevailing seasonal flu strains. " The quote above is from https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...ccine-efficacy#Efficacy-versus-effectiveness.
So if the COVID vaccine isn't 100% effective, then it is worse than other vaccines because those other vaccines are 100% effective, right? Wrong! Look at the chart here: http://www.bccdc.ca/resource-gallery...nogenicity.pdf Virtually none of these common vaccines are 100% effective..
But what about the delta variant? Imagine you're a student and you're about to take a final exam in Civil War History. Your teacher has said the exam questions will be on "battles". You spend your time focusing your studies on Gettysburg, Antietam, Atlanta etc. Imagine your surprise when the exam asks questions about Perryville, Malvern Hill and Honey Springs. How well would you do? Would you get a see? A the? Or would you flunk? The same with the COVID vaccines. They were developed to be effective for the original strain of COVID, They are less effective against the delta strain. But they still get a be. Better than you, huh?
So, the only people who expected the vaccine to be 100% effective 100% of the time were the rightwingnuts. In other words, the same ones who believe that ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are COVID cures.
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09-24-21 15:07 #4824
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
The number of people who died *of* (not with) covid, with no comorbidity, is a tiny fraction of that.
On the other side, the number of covid cases is far higher than the 42.5 m confirmed cases. About half of people who contract it don't even have symptoms. Others will have symptoms similar to flu, just stay at home and self-medicate and then recover in a few days. Neither of these groups are in confirmed cases because nobody knows they had it. Total actual cases will be north of a million.
It is more like 100,000 out of 100,000,000, or a 99.9% survival rate.
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09-24-21 14:58 #4823
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
Of course this was not how the "vaccine" was sold. It was sold like other vaccines. Measles, mumps, rubella, Hep be, etc. In that once you've got it you are totally immune.
Instead, we now find out that it doesn't work, and there have been over 500,000 adverse effects reported on the VAERS system (a small fraction of the actual number).
Yet again, Fauci lied. He funded the virus. He lied and twisted with the political wind about it. And then he lied about the effectiveness of the gene therapy "vaccine". Why isn't he (along with Whitmer, Cuomo, Bill and Hillary, Podesta and many others) in jail?
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09-24-21 14:40 #4822
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Hardly a "year long lie that it would go away without a vaccine", is it? You really need to put a little more nuance into your lies: I doubt even Pelosi would put out such an unqualified whopper. Then again.
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09-24-21 14:32 #4821
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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09-24-21 14:26 #4820
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
As the old saying goes, lock her up.
As for cleaning up in November, in a serious and secure election I have no doubt the republicans would clean up next year (as they would have last year).
Unfortunately, in today's clown world of millions of "mail-in" ballots spammed out to whoever, wherever and "collected" en masse by democrat operatives; democrat-controlled cities ejecting GOP observers from the count, pausing it when things aren't going their way and suddenly "discovering" a pallot of just the hundreds of thousands of 98% democrat votes they need to win; and millions of democrat-voting illegals pouring over the border and being sent by Biden's handlers to swing states where they are sure to pick up a ballot or ten: one can never be too sure.
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09-24-21 14:01 #4819
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]