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09-22-21 01:07 #4779
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by SouthEaster [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
Tafesse's research has found vaccination led to increased levels of neutralizing antibodies against variant forms of the coronavirus in people who had been previously infected. "You will get better protection by also getting vaccinated as compared to just an infection," he said. On Sept. 13, 2021.
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09-22-21 00:13 #4778
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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09-22-21 00:11 #4777
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
The virus cannot be eradicated. We know that the vaccine does not prevent contraction or transmission. Covid is here to stay and we must learn to live with it, as we do with flu and other viruses.
If it was possible for the virus to be completely eradicated if everyone was vaccinated, there would be a stronger case for doing so. But that is not the case. The vaccine *does not* do that.
Therefore it is up to individuals to decide whether to get vaccinated. If, as you say, the vaccine prevents nearly all covid deaths, the vaccinated will be as safe as they can be, regardless of what anyone else does, given that the virus will always be with us.
If people choose not to be vaccinated, that is up to them. Their choice will *not* prevent the eradication of the virus. The vaccine does not eradicated the virus (despite the promises of Fauci and other liars who sold it to us as total prevention).
The vaccinated will already be protected as well as they can be, according to your argument, so the actions of other people who choose not to take the vax have no bearing on them.
Of course, in reality there are a vast number of negative side effects of the vax, a small number of which have been documented on the VAERS system but most of which have been ignored or swept under the carpet.
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09-22-21 00:09 #4776
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
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09-22-21 00:00 #4775
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Double vaxed. Got sick with covid. Let that rattle round your head for a while.
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09-21-21 23:14 #4774
Posts: 1604Huh?
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
I do admit that the "gay gene" and the "genius gene" were sarcasm.
You do know what "sarcasm" means, don't you?
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09-21-21 22:05 #4773
Posts: 1113Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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09-21-21 22:01 #4772
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
No one ever told me that I needed a medical degree in order to express an opinion on a discussion board.
Don't see why anyone would need a medical degree in order to comment on a political thread inside of a hooker discussion website.
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09-21-21 21:48 #4771
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
When deciding upon mandates, a better question to ask is "Does the vaccine reduce transmission of the virus?
The vaccine does not prevent all transmissions, but it greatly reduces some of its transmission.
One study compared the households of unvaccinated infected individuals to the households of vaccinated individuals that still had breakthrough infections.
31% of the other household members wound-up getting infected also when it started in the household by the unvaccinated individual.
Only 11% of the household members were infected when a vaccinated person experienced one of these breakthrough infections.
The vaccine does not prevent all infections. But it does prevent a very large number of infections (and all or nearly all Covid-19 deaths).
And that is why mandates (and getting nearly everyone vaccinated) makes sense.
Slow the spread, get vaccinated.
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09-21-21 20:58 #4770
Posts: 1956Please tell us more!
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Or were do or did they practice medicine?
Or what peer-reviewed studies they've conducted to oh-so-boldly contradict all real doctors and epidemiologists in the world?
Why is it that crackpots never share their qualifications with us, mere mortals?
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09-21-21 20:05 #4769
Posts: 1604Wow
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
A. yes.
B. No.
No need for a long-winded answer which nobody will read, just A or be.
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09-21-21 19:49 #4768
Posts: 1604Vaccine lunacy
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Now I realize that this might be a difficult concept for you to grasp, but 0.2% is an incredibly low number. Out of every 1,000,000 fully vaccinated people, only 2,000 will experience a breakthrough infection. That means that the other 998,000 people can't spread COVID.
Unvaccinated people are also 4 x more likely to catch COVID than vaccinated people. https://www.wnct.com/health/coronavi...o-catch-covid/.
And now insurance companies are beginning to institute "cost sharing" for COVID treatments. How long will it be before they change that to "unvaccinated people" will be responsible for 100% of their medical bills. What this means is unvaccinated MAGAts will risk death and their family's bankruptcy just to "own the libs". Brilliant.
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09-21-21 19:08 #4767
Posts: 1604I'll try this once more.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
I went through numerous old posts of yours. I found many instances of you saying, essentially, "actions have consequences". Any business has a right to make whatever decisions they want as long as they don't violate federal law. Businesses can decide to pay no more than minimum wage. You have the option of working there or not. But if you quit, the state might deny your unemployment claim. Actions have consequences. You have the option to speed or not while driving. But if you do and get caught, you might receive a ticket. Actions have consequences. Most school districts require certain vaccinations. You are free to not have your kids vaccinated but the school district is free to decline admitting them. Actions have consequences.
Just in these examples, any business can mandate vaccinations. You are free to refuse but they can fire you. Actions have consequences.
Why is it that the QOP is "free and easy" with the "actions have consequences" line when it involves Democrats or gays or POC but whine, yell and bloviate when the "actions have consequences" line is used on them? Hypocrisy maybe?
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09-21-21 18:51 #4766
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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09-21-21 17:54 #4765
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]