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08-29-21 06:46 #4521
Posts: 2344"As of mid-August: Texas, with 63.6 percent as many people as California, had 80% as many cases since the pandemic began. That's a 17% differential in California's favor. The contrast with Florida is as dramatic: The Sunshine state, with 53% as many people, had 70% as many cases, also a 17% differential.
Those numbers translate to human lives. California has had 1,637 Covid deaths for every 100,000 residents, Texas 1,881 and Florida 1,890.
Of the three, then, California has been by far the healthiest place to live over the last 18 months and Florida the least.
So why does Newsom face a recall while Abbott and DeSantis sit pretty despite their states' dismal numbers? Florida and Texas do not allow recalls of state officials. "
https://www.desertsun.com/story/opin...ot/8242052002/
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08-29-21 05:01 #4520
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
Seriously, if Repub so-called potus' would only on occasion produce something better than sub par economic results at best with a high likelihood of another Great Repub Crash, Depression/Recession and Massive Job Destruction thrown in the mix along with the absolute worst foreign policy and national security results of all time, maybe they would outright win a few elections with most of the American electorate supporting them without relying only on where the system is already rigged in their favor, passing laws to rig it in their favor even more, pulling one "October Surprise" after another out of their ass, colluding with our foreign adversaries, ordering their loony base to "vote TWICE!", all the other proven significant election fraud maneuvers made only by them, the extreme gerrymandering, the cartoons, the faked videos and on and on and on.
They really ought to try winning elections that way for a change sometimes. Even ONE time to produce positive overall results merely equal to that of the Dem before or after them would be a huge improvement.
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08-29-21 04:40 #4519
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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08-29-21 04:35 #4518
Posts: 5454Not really
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
As usual, the consensus of major polls a few days before election day was remarkably accurate to within a normal +/-MoE from the final outcome.
Take a look at RealClearPolitics' final consensus of their polls before election day 2020 showing which candidate would probably win which state and they were practically dead on right across the board. Exchange their prediction for Florida and Georgia, both extremely close, and the consensus for that map would have been 100% accurate to the final outcome.
I am talking about the consensus of major polls now too.
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08-28-21 23:16 #4517
Posts: 3497Joe and Hunter
This is such a heart warming video of Joe and his son Hunter.
https://streamable.com/pyb5qh
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08-28-21 15:58 #4516
Posts: 1604Please educate yourself
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
1) The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will complete withdrawal of all remaining.
Forces from Afghanistan within the remaining nine and a half (9. 5) months.
2) The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will withdraw all their forces from.
Remaining bases."
In case you didn't know, this comes from the text of the "surrender document" signed by the dump administration in Doha. So much for you trying to rewrite history: "Unfortunately, telling your enemy what date you're going to be gone is not exactly the best strategy."
BTW, was there anything in the aforementioned agreement about the Taliban holding in place until we withdrew? No there wasn't. Even Neville Chamberlain did better. https://www.state.gov/wp-content/upl...n-02.29.20.pdf.
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08-28-21 12:22 #4515
Posts: 3497Dementia Joe
There's a reason Biden usually has a driver.
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08-28-21 11:18 #4514
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
(None of the democrat "voters" showed up to vote of course; their "votes" were already "collected" via "mail-in voting", if you know what I mean.
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08-28-21 07:56 #4513
Posts: 5454The Authorization for Use of Military Force, Yes. The Bush Doctrine, No
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
Bush was going to invade Afghanistan without a Congressional vote on the matter. I doubt it even occurred to him that one might be useful. Which, BTW, he had every right and power to do in the face of credible intel of actionable planning or the imminent threat of a domestic attack. In such a case, the Commander-in-Chief does not have to wait until Congress is called in to convene, debate and vote on the matter. He can just mobilize the military or bombers and go. And in the wake of 9/11 there was definitely the possibility of such credible intel coming in at any hour of the day or night.
In fact, Biden was one of the Senators who convinced Bush to hold off for a Congressional vote on whether or not to use military force. That isn't because Biden, Kerry, Clinton or anyone else who voted Yes on that Authorization thought Bush couldn't or wouldn't go through with it without their vote. All the Dems and Repubs who voted Yes knew he would. Biden wanted the vote because, without it, he knew Bush had zero chance of showing enough "unity" among the American people and their representatives for the purpose and the mission to convince other nations to form a meaningful coalition with us to accomplish it, should we need them.
See, without a Congressional vote on the matter, other countries know one numbskull Commander-in-Chief's brainstorm to do this or that could at any time be defunded by Congress, who never committed to it in any way, the minute those other nations put THEIR boots on the ground, constituents' lives and reputations at stake. The Congressional vote was the only assurance to other countries that we were all in on it. That is what most of those members of Congress were voting for. Not "for the war", but for an acknowledgement to the world that we were unified in supporting our Commander-in-Chief to take action against a clear and present threat.
Therefore, even though fate had dictated that this was another one of those unfortunate times when a minority of the American electorate on the strength of the rigged Electoral College system in cahoots with 5 winger Repub-appointed Supreme Court Justices had gotten tired of the Peace and Prosperity the Clinton Administration had produced by the end of the 1990's and were hungry to have all hell break loose in one colossal fuck up after another by placing the Repub George W. Bush in the White House, he was the only Commander-in-Chief we had at the time. Maybe he wouldn't totally fuck it up like Repubs generally do with everything they touch. It was a gamble we essentially had no choice but to take right after 9/11 even though he had practically given al-Qaeda an engraved invitation to commit that attack.
Voting Yes on that Authorization was the right thing to do because NOT showing the world we were "unified" on the mission was ensuring it would fail. And it DID lead to the accomplishment of the mission to bring those responsible for 9/11 to justice and death. Yes, imo, Obama would have been wrong to vote No on that Authorization had he been a USA Senator at the time.
Now, The Bush Doctrine was something else entirely. That was the way numbskull Bush decided to prosecute the war starting in 2002. And it was not up for a vote. It was the idea of him, his administration and generals that, as long as they had boots on the ground and classic Mission Creep was taking over, a major element of their new mission ought to be to turn places like Afghanistan into "free and open societies." In other words, Nation Building.
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08-28-21 07:50 #4512
Posts: 690Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
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08-28-21 03:28 #4511
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
First of all, no such "secret" would be kept for more than 2 minutes before a pro Taliban neighbor or airport personnel ratted out the mysterious disappearance and loading up of hundreds of these people on planes bound for Bermuda.
Second, the request was made on the premise that, when ratted out, the Afghan people would have been demoralized with a growing and likely larger parade of panicked refugees storming the airports and totally crippling them along with a better organized opposition to engage in all manner of violent conflict.
Start earlier and go slower? That is about the only alternative the Biden critics can come up with. What they are missing is such an approach would not happen in a vacuum. The chaos side would have longer to better plan THEIR tactics along the way as well. We don't get to do our thing earlier and slower while the opposition and chaos side stands by politely waiting for us to finish.
So far only 1 of the probable 5000 terrorists Trump got released from prison over the objections of the then Afghanistan government managed to strap on a suicide bomb vest and join 72 Virgins in an act of terrorism and chaos that no planning or policy can prevent. Going slower and taking longer would only have given the other 4999 of them more time and more certain established targets to plot against.
No doubt they are still plotting and might very well make their way to the first inspection point at any moment.
Again, so far, that one took out only about 10% of the average annual American deaths for that war from the start. Still a tragic loss. But 10% of the average annual death casualties is much better than what it could have been.
But no matter how fast they scramble to draw straws to decide which one is the lucky winner of the 72 Virgins Paradise they will be arriving at the airports long after 110,000+ allies and the great majority of Americans who WANT to leave have been safely withdrawn and evacuated from the country.
Yes. Thanks, Joe.
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08-28-21 03:28 #4510
Posts: 428One guy in charge and one guy to blame
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
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08-28-21 02:07 #4509
Posts: 3497The Biden Disaster
It's official. The US government is the number one enemy of America. Heartbreaking treason. Fact check this fellow enemies of America.
Watchdog: 75,000 USA Vehicles, 600,000 weapons, 208 planes left in Afghanistan.
https://justthenews.com/government/w...o75sJq5FcA1Aq4
The USA Military is leaving behind 75,000 vehicles, 600,000 weapons and 208 airplanes / helicopters in Afghanistan as the Taliban takes control of the country, according to the watchdog group Open the Books.
"We've made the Taliban into a major USA Arms dealer for the next decade," said Adam Andrzejewski, CEO & founder of Open the Books. "They now control 75,000 military vehicles. This is about 50,000 tactical vehicles, 20,000 Humvees they control about 1,000 mine-resistant vehicles, and even about 150 armored personnel carriers."
In total, the USA Government spent an estimated $83 billion of taxpayer funds on weapons, vehicles and airplanes for the Afghan military.
The Biden administration said recently that a "fair amount" of weaponry would land in the hands of the Taliban but it didn't have an exact number.
Andrzejewski said his organization "found a Federal Audit that detailed up to $200 million worth of drones that had disappeared," adding that "we don't know where 600,000 weapons are within the country."
The Taliban also reportedly has access to biometrics data of Afghans that helped USA Forces during the war.
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08-27-21 23:03 #4508
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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08-27-21 22:43 #4507
Posts: 545418 USA Intel Agencies are fine. But what has Putin and FUX News Channel concluded?
All 18 USA Intel Agencies just came to the same conclusion on this that Fauci held all along:
USA Intel agencies split on Covid origins, offer no high-confidence conclusions.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/27/covi...ndroidappshare
"All agencies assess that two hypotheses are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident, the nations 18 intelligence agencies wrote in the unclassified report.
The report, compiled by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, found that the virus was not developed as a biological weapon.