American Politics

[Golfinho]

That's because this USA withdrawal and evacuation from Bush2's 20 year long Afghanistan is the best run, most competently managed and most successful withdrawal and evacuation by the Losing Side of a war in history.

Name a better one.
this amazngly well handled withdrawal is comparable to or reminiscent of that Repub Ford's 1975 total catastrophe in Vietnam.

These so-called Wars on Terror were begun with the near unanimous support of all political sides, in case you've forgotten or are oblivious. Credit to Biden for simply trying to follow through with Trump's determined initiative to end this forever war. Unfortunately, telling your enemy what date you're going to be gone is not exactly the best strategy. Especially when you neglect to tell your own people, leaving them stranded when you disappear in the middle of the night. Better to have the media say nothing, and just do a quiet prisoner exchange later on. And if any American brides choose to stay with their new Taliban husbands, well that's their decision, isn't it?

[EihTooms]

All 18 USA Intel Agencies just came to the same conclusion on this that Fauci held all along:

USA Intel agencies split on Covid origins, offer no high-confidence conclusions.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/27/covi...ndroidappshare

"All agencies assess that two hypotheses are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident, the nations 18 intelligence agencies wrote in the unclassified report.

The report, compiled by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, found that the virus was not developed as a biological weapon.

Of course, Traitor Trump, his 74,000,000 cult followers and his slavishly devoted fellow Repub Traitors in Congress will defer to whatever the Russian intel agencies or rather, Putin personally, has to say about it over all 18 of the USA Intel Agencies.

[EihTooms]

Thanks Joe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX0yGdMNUA

Yet, even today Biden's Approval Ratings are better than Trump's, better than DeSantis' in his own state of Florida and better than those of the Repubs in Congress.

Interesting.

Maybe most Americans would accurately recognize that video clip as a deceptively edited piece of hogwash. Biden is the one "Saving America" from the colossal idiocy and historic failures of the previous 4 years.

[EihTooms]

Amazing. 13 military killed and several wounded. Hundreds of Afghanistan citizens injured by Biden screwup and not a mention of it. The left just wants to ignore Biden failures and talk about Trump. Trump is looking pretty good to the world today in comparison to Biden. Thousands of Americans and American allies will be tortured and killed after August 31. If anyone watched Biden pathetic speech this afternoon after he hid all day they would see a weak tired president without a clue or a plan. He can't get the people out now but he will after the military leaves because he thinks he can bargain with terrorists. Britain has washed their hands with the Biden administration for the future until Biden is gone. What a disgrace and the clueless on here just want to talk about Jan 6 and Covid and immigrants. Our city has 36 students and parents stranded in Afghanistan that will probably lose their lives.

It is no secret. Ignoring the Biden failures will not make them go away.

That's because this USA withdrawal and evacuation from Bush2's 20 year long doomed and predictably failed War in Afghanistan is the best run, most competently managed and most successful withdrawal and evacuation by the Losing Side of a war in history.

Name a better one.

By stark contrast, Ford's 1975 handling of the withdrawal from the only other wrongheaded war America lost, Eisenhower's Vietnam War, was a true horrific shit show.

The typically pro Repub Mainstream Media's over-the-top ridiculous criticism of Biden's withdrawal has all the earmarks of its usual phony "Bothsiderism", meant to elevate Repubs and denigrate Dems. As if ANYTHING about this amazngly well handled withdrawal is comparable to or reminiscent of that Repub Ford's 1975 total catastrophe in Vietnam.

[Cali Guy]

Thanks Joe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX0yGdMNUA

Great post. That video pretty much sums it up. Pretty self explanatory.

[Smoothy]

Thanks Joe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX0yGdMNUA

[Cali Guy]

Retired USA Army Colonel Douglas Macgregor took aim at President Biden's handling of the draw down from Afghanistan, comparing it to the infamous Benghazi incident that resulted in the deaths of multiple Americans.

"You're seeing the lapses in security, the absence of realistic planning, bad leadership from the top, a failure to outline specifically what the goal was, which I think very clearly was to get all the American citizens and allied citizens out, before we withdrew any military power," Macgregor said.

"All of this looks a lot like Benghazi on steroids," he added.

The 2012 Benghazi attack resulted in the death US Ambassador Christopher Stevens, Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith, and CIA security contractors Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

[Cali Guy]

Unless you are a Native American, then you are an immigrant. You don't want any more of you here because you've got yours.

As to your ludicrous assertion that the US had no immigration during the middle of the 20th century, google how many Hungarians came to the US between 1956 and 1960. Google how many Cubans entered the US between 1959 and 1965.

Amazing. 13 military killed and several wounded. Hundreds of Afghanistan citizens injured by Biden screwup and not a mention of it. The left just wants to ignore Biden failures and talk about Trump. Trump is looking pretty good to the world today in comparison to Biden. Thousands of Americans and American allies will be tortured and killed after August 31. If anyone watched Biden pathetic speech this afternoon after he hid all day they would see a weak tired president without a clue or a plan. He can't get the people out now but he will after the military leaves because he thinks he can bargain with terrorists. Britain has washed their hands with the Biden administration for the future until Biden is gone. What a disgrace and the clueless on here just want to talk about Jan 6 and Covid and immigrants. Our city has 36 students and parents stranded in Afghanistan that will probably lose their lives.

It is no secret. Ignoring the Biden failures will not make them go away.

[PVMonger]

Who's saying about anything making it OK? Not me, not everyone here.

But if the glove fits.

Those left-wing terrorists blowing a Capitol building at night after calling beforehand to evacuate whoever might've been still there didn't hurt or kill any soul.

Unlike January 6 "tourists" who injured 150 people and caused several suicides.

You can of course parrot your party line until you're blue in the face (already are, probably), but you don't get to choose the facts. In a wonderful world of domestic terrorism, ultra-right extremists are infinitely more dangerous. They are the ones who go straight for the body count rather than political statement.

Does it make OK whatever left extremists are doing (what are they doing, BTW)? Don't be an idiot.

But the FBI and DHS specifically highlighted that the real danger is coming from the ultra-right.

Just the facts.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/war-co...-united-states

That's the thing with supporters of the former guy. If they don't like the "real" facts, they make stuff up and call them "alternative facts". Then, they say that all news sources are "fake" unless they are approved by the former guy.

And the real killer is that supporters of the former guy have absolutely no idea that this tactic was used 80+ years ago. https://www.heraldstaronline.com/opi...ler-and-trump/.

[PVMonger]

You think that's a bad thing? LOL. We don't want an immigration system, because we don't want immigration. Trump was building a wall to keep illegals physically out, and for the ones that managed to get through he made a deal to send them back to Mexico. He also slashed legal immigration, blocking immigrants who would be a public charge, which most of them are.

America's greatest years were in the middle of the 20th Century. We had massive growth, innovation, projected hard and soft power, became the world's biggest superpower, and Americans were unified, optimistic and confident that their kids would live better lives than they had. These were also the years in which we had no immigration. That is not a coincidence.

Unless you are a Native American, then you are an immigrant. You don't want any more of you here because you've got yours.

As to your ludicrous assertion that the US had no immigration during the middle of the 20th century, google how many Hungarians came to the US between 1956 and 1960. Google how many Cubans entered the US between 1959 and 1965.

[Xpartan]

Ah, they phoned up a few minutes before they blew up the Capitol, so that makes it okay. Gotcha. A "mostly peaceful bombing", as CNN would say.

Who's saying about anything making it OK? Not me, not everyone here.

But if the glove fits.

Those left-wing terrorists blowing a Capitol building at night after calling beforehand to evacuate whoever might've been still there didn't hurt or kill any soul.

Unlike January 6 "tourists" who injured 150 people and caused several suicides.

You can of course parrot your party line until you're blue in the face (already are, probably), but you don't get to choose the facts. In a wonderful world of domestic terrorism, ultra-right extremists are infinitely more dangerous. They are the ones who go straight for the body count rather than political statement.

Does it make OK whatever left extremists are doing (what are they doing, BTW)? Don't be an idiot.

But the FBI and DHS specifically highlighted that the real danger is coming from the ultra-right.

Just the facts.

In its Homeland Threat Assessment released in October 2020, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that racially and ethnically motivated violent extremistsspecifically white supremacist extremists (WSEs)will remain the most persistent and lethal threat in the Homeland.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/war-co...-united-states

[PVMonger]

Following on from Nancy Pelosi's infamous maskless trip to the salon after shutting them down for the ordinary plebs, she's at it again.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/video-...si-fundraiser/

A huge number of wealthy, maskless people packed closely together at a democrat fundraiser.

Note that Pelosi is 81 and many of the guests are also old. According to their wisdom, they are the most vulnerable to covid and should be cowering at home triple-masked to save their lives. And yet there they all are, maskless and not social distancing.

Of course, the servants were forced to wear masks, but none of the democrat bigwigs. That is how they view regular American people. Servants to be masked, vaxxed and chipped like cattle, while they exist above the petty rules they enforce on the rest of us.

The QOP is now accusing Pelosi and elderly Democrats of following CDC mask guidelines.

What, I ask, could be more ludicrous? The video is question shows maskless people eating outside. These actions are well within current CDC guidelines. Add to it the high likelihood that all of the participants were fully vaccinated and you have "much ado about nothing". https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...-guidance.html.

[Chris P]

Can anyone please explain Parteigenosse ChrisP what logical fallacy is?

First of all, the Jan 6 ultra-right rioters injured 150 police officers, at least 17 of them seriously.

Contrary to those "tourists", the leftist terrorists in the 70's not only blew their bombs at night, but also called to evacuate the building to make sure no one gets hurt.

Even if "No LEO was killed or significantly injured" (a damn lie), then what's your problem with 2 left terrorist pussies who didn't kill or injured anyone at all?

75% of domestic terrorism comes from the ultra-right.

Ah, they phoned up a few minutes before they blew up the Capitol, so that makes it okay. Gotcha. A "mostly peaceful bombing", as CNN would say.

No LEO was killed or significantly injured during Jan 6. Not a single protester was found in possession of a firearm. Virtually zero damage was done to the building (some other leftist wacko on here was actually reduced to complaining that someone spilled some paint on the floor. LOL).

As for your fake stat on right-wing domestic terrorism, that is false on its face from the events of the previous year and a half. There have been thousands of acts of violent terrorism carried out by antifa / BLM communists, which have caused several billion dollars in damage.

But of course the politically biased Washington establishment supports that kind of violence, so they don't count it as terrorism despite the fact it involves attacks on and attempts to burn down federal buildings and police precincts (with occupants still inside) and destruction of entire city blocks; as well as the creation of lawless zones in cities.

Instead of doing anything about that, the Washington establishment sends its feds to find a couple of doofuses, and entraps them into saying they are going to do something they would never have done on their own without the encouragement, funding, organization, and whipping up of the feds.

This is exactly what happened in the fake Whitmer kidnap case, where discovery has revealed that *the majority* of the so-called plotters were working with or for the feds, including leaders who planned and paid for everything. And again in the Jan 6 hoax, where the feds have dropped all but the most basic BS trespass charges because anything more serious would have forced them to unmask the dozens of unnamed, unindicted co-conspirators who were working for them.

P.S. Fun fact point about the 1971 bombing: it was carried out by the Weather Underground far-left terror group. This was run by Bill Ayers, who would go on to become the mentor and inspiration to another America-hating communist: Barack Hussein Obama.

[EihTooms]

You think that's a bad thing? LOL. We don't want an immigration system, because we don't want immigration. Trump was building a wall to keep illegals physically out, and for the ones that managed to get through he made a deal to send them back to Mexico. He also slashed legal immigration, blocking immigrants who would be a public charge, which most of them are.

America's greatest years were in the middle of the 20th Century. We had massive growth, innovation, projected hard and soft power, became the world's biggest superpower, and Americans were unified, optimistic and confident that their kids would live better lives than they had. These were also the years in which we had no immigration. That is not a coincidence.

As long as you, Trump and Miller lump legal Immigration in with illegal immigration as a plague on the country of immigrants, USA, I will agree with you that America would be much, much better off today if we had at least been more selective about preventing certain immigrations.

Among them, the parentage of...

Immigrant bashers among the 6 sons of immigrants running for president
July 25,2015.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-06-...016-candidates

Ted Cruz
Marco Rubio
Rick Santorum
Donald Trump

Yep, most of those were mid-20th Century immigrations, including Trump's mother, the era you said we had "no mmigration."

[EihTooms]

Can anyone please explain Parteigenosse ChrisP what logical fallacy is?

First of all, the Jan 6 ultra-right rioters injured 150 police officers, at least 17 of them seriously.

Contrary to those "tourists", the leftist terrorists in the 70's not only blew their bombs at night, but also called to evacuate the building to make sure no one gets hurt.

Even if "No LEO was killed or significantly injured" (a damn lie), then what's your problem with 2 left terrorist pussies who didn't kill or injured anyone at all?

Take Timothy McWeigh.

That nutso killed almost 200 people including kids. That's a real ultra-right terrorist for you. One hell of a body count.

So maybe you're right. Maybe we should be grateful to Capitol "tourists" that they didn't kill more people.

75% of domestic terrorism comes from the ultra-right.

Yes, all of us can and have explained these things. The problem is Wingers LOVE not to know anything true. So even if it does sink in they will pretend it didn't. LOL.